HomeMy WebLinkAbout2006-08-17TOWN OF DRYDEN
® Planning Board
August 17`x', 2006
Members Present: Barbara Caldwell, Chair; Tom Hatfield; Joseph Laquatra, Jr.; Joseph Lalley,
Others Present: Mary Ann Sumner, Town Board Liaison; Bernie Cornelius; Dan Kwasnowski;
Kris Strickland; Patty Millard, Recording Secretary,
Agenda: Zoning Ordinance, Cluster Development.
Meeting called to order at 7:09.
Bernie Cornelius added to agenda re: Manhattan Estates Subdivision
B Caldwell — weren't there questions from the Health Department regarding lot sizes?
B Cornelius — In this packet here, the health department has been out there and done all this. The
only thing they did not like is in the part here (indicates bottom portion of map) where they did
not find a foot of topsoil, but we have added topsoil. When it comes into effect, you'll find that
all these lots were all approved and have met their specs. They require a foot of topsoil. It's clay.
There were only about 10 inches of topsoil, so we added 4 or 5 inches to it to bring it up.
® B Cornelius — These are existing — right here (indicating left side of the map); and we're
shooting to get approval for right here (indicating the middle portion of the map) — this
turnaround right here.
J Lalley — This would be a new lot. Two existing lots and three new lots.
J Laquatra —Walk us through the turnaround.
Discussion of road frontage. A section of the map needs to be marked to indicate the 125'.
Applicant states there is 125', but only 120' is marked (2 sections of 60' with an unmarked
section between.)
Applicant is in the process of getting health Department approval. Perk tests have been done.
He's just waiting for final approval.
J Lalley — So I think the only issue is resolving whether this (pointing to the map) is 125 feet.
J Laquatra — That and then the Health Department — and show where the well and the septic are
going to be.. Are we going to need anything else?
D Kwasnowski —Just the erosion, sediment and control plan. I know they're going to say they
need to see the plans for the whole property — and you have a future extension here. They're
going to say —where are these roads going to go and what is your ultimate plan go�uia be. i
wouldn't mind seeing them.
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— I have all lant d out but who knows. I'm dead
B Cornelius 1, have all the maps for all these. a e tt a p �e , b o
in the water. This house, I've held for 3 years and this one, I'm going into almost my 3 d year
now, not sold. So I'm not — I'm taking one step, and when these get sold, i'll be back in to see
You — whether it's 5 years or 5 months or 50 years.
Discussion lot # of lots. There is a lot number 6, but no 5. This is a 5 -lot subdivision request.
D Kwasnowski asked if there were water retention ponds.
B Cornelius — These are existing, and there's another one down here.
D Kwasnowski — So the other issue you're going to run in to with the existing is that you're not
going to get 5 day coverage. it's going to take 60 days. ,lust so you know.
B Caldwell —Dan will need to review your erosion, sediment and control plan.
Discussion of short vs. long SEQR form. Unsure of which is required. Long form is in the
packet.
J Laquatra — Sir, we ask that you work closely with this office so that by next month you'll have
everything and be ready for a public hearing.
D Kwasnowski — Do ou want to do cluster or zoning ordinance? Information was emailed to
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Board members earlier in the day regarding Cluster Developments,
B Caldwell —1 don't think we're going to give you any firm opinion on this tonight. Let's talk
about the zoning situation. Tell me where we're at with this.
Discussion of Proposed Committee to rewrite Zoning Ordinance.
Discussion of Cluster Subdivisions.
D Kwasnowski — The main issue I see is that you can't have a septic line cross a property line in
New York State. You can in other states. So you couldn't have a collective sewer system.
Everybody has their own tank, and then there's a line that goes to a collective leach field.
J Laquatra — You can't do this because the line crosses the property line? How are other
communities dealing with this?
T Hatfield — Because this concept is being pushed. They must not have zero lot lines. They've
gotta have space between lots reserved out for the lines.
0 J Laquatra — This is something that should be brought to the attention of the Governor's Task
Force, because that task force has been promoting this concept, among others, but this is the .first
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I've heard of this. So maybe you (Ian) and I can have sonic conversations. So we'll
communicate and then I can get a hold of that task force, and we'll see which way to go.
D Kwasnowski — There are some other conceptual questions regarding the physical
characteristics of a cluster subdivision. How much land do they actually have to set aside for
open space? Does it have to be meaningful open space'?
B Caldwell — We should say it in here in case someone decides to build one and decides that a
cliff face is their open space. That can't be used for anything.
D Kwasnowski — The other way to go about that is like designed by nature — you subtract out
those areas that are unique and important to birds, scenically. They can be important open spaces
— swamp, corridor strearns. When we subtract out that land, it should be areas that are
environmentally sensitive.
B Caldwell — OK. Buildable is a word that's in the definitions here that I think: is of concern.
Also this — i like this definition of subdivision, but I know that staff does not, because with this
it's restricted to two or more. So there's sonic work to do and we'll look at this again next time.
M Sumner — I just wanted to let you know that I didn't get to introduce the wind ordinance at the
last meeting. Atty Perkins didn't have time to review it before the meeting, but I did give it to
everyone to look over and here are copies for you. The Board is looking to schedule an interim
meeting to deal with sonic issues regarding the Town Hall site, and 1 am hoping to introduce it at
that time and still have time to schedule the public hearing for the September meeting.
J Laquatra — Could you vote on it in September, or would you have to wait and vote on it in
October?
M Sumner — We could vote on it after we closed the public hearing that evening.
T Hatfield — Motion to adjourn.
J Laquatra — Seconded.
All in favor.
Respectfully submitted by,
Patty 'Mi llard