HomeMy WebLinkAbout1994-07-15DRYDEN TOWN PLANNING BOARD
JULY 15, 1993
AGENDA: PUBLIC HEARING — DAVID ABBOTT — SUBDIVISION BARR ROAD.
RECOMMENDATION FOR REZONING NORTH OF THE VILLAGE FROM
O"MA" TO "RD
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chair Barbara Caldwell, Mitchell Lavine,
Robert Fletcher, Michael Kelleher and Joseph
Lalley.
Among those present were Mr. and Mrs. Abbott; C. Brown; Clyde
Cotterill; Robert Lowery; Henry Slater and Clinton Cotterill.
The meeting was called to order by Chair Barbara Caldwell.
It was the consensus of the Board that without the
availability to have the aid of legal consultation with the Town
Engineer the Varn Brothers project could not proceed.
PUBLIC HEARING — ABBOTT SUBDIVISION
PRELIMINARY /FINAL PLAT APPROVAL — BARR ROAD
The Chair opened the Public Hearing and noted that in March
1990 this subdivision had board approval, however the plat had
not been recorded within 30 days after being signed therefore
was not valid and required a Public Hearing to proceed.
Mr. Abbott stated there had been no changes since the Board
approved the subdivision in 1990. Mr. Abbott provided maps of
the subdivision for board review.
Parcel #R1 and Barr Road has been developed. There are two
remaining lots. Mr. Abbott stated that State Farm Insurance
Company has shown an interested in the area for development.
Henry
Slater-
stated that there
haven't been any positive or
negative
responses
from any of the
notified parties concerning
the subdivision.
the
minutes
of the
Mrs.
Concerning
Brown
drainage
that
the
Chair
read
from
the
minutes
of the
Site
Plan
Review
on
—
March
19,
1990
for
Hi —
Speed
Checkweigher
Co.,
Inc.:
"George
Schlecht
— the
drainage
Plan
for Hi —
Speed
Checkweigher-
meets
with
his
approval."
The
board
was satisfied
that
the developer
had
met the
requirements
for
the drainage
plan
as stipulated
in 1990.
Mrs.
C.
Brown
stated
that
they had been very pleased with
the project
and stated
her
concern was that the only access to
the project
remain
on
Barr
Road.
With no further- discussio
close the Public Hearing.
DOTE YES (5) B. Caldwel
and M. Ke 1
NO (0) . Abstained
n or publi
Second b
la M. Lav i
leher.
( 0 )
c ca
y M.
ne;
Publ
mments J. Lalley moved to
Lavine.
J. Lalley; R. Fletcher
is Hearing Closed.
PB 7/15/93 PG.2
EAF — ABBOTT INDUSTRIAL SUBDIVISION
REVIEW OFFICER J. LALLEY
OAmendments to the Full Environmental Assessment Form were as
follows:
SITE DESCRIPTION:
#7: IS PROJECT SUBSTANTIALLY CONTIGUOUS TO A SITE LISTED ON THE
REGISTER OF NATIONAL NATURAL LANDMARKS? (NO)
PROJECT DESCRIPTION:
#16: WILL THE PROJECT GENERATE SOLID WASTE? (YES)
b. IF YES, WILL AN EXISTING SOLID WASTE FACILITY BE
USED? (YES)
c. IF YES, GIVE NAME (TOMPKINS COUNTY APPROVED SITES
CONSISTENT WITH APPROVED UTILITIES)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
M. Lavine recommended that it should be noted that the Board
reviewed the original EAF as submitted January 26, 1990 with the
understanding that Lot 1 has been completed.
In the upper left hand corner on the form the following
statement was added: "REVIEWED 7/15/93 NOTE: LOT #1 DEVELOPED
WITH IMPROVEMENTS AND IN OPERATION. THIS REVIEW REFLECTS
CURRENT CONDITIONS" JML
Mitchell
Lavine
moved
Kelleher.
to
NO (0) Abstained
reaffirm
the negative declaration based
on
the
review
made
of
the
EAF
Second by Robert Fletcher
VOTE YES (5) B. Caldwell;
M. Lavine; J. Lalley; R. Fletcher
and M.
Kelleher.
NO (0) Abstained
(
0 )
Joseph Lalley moved that having reviewed the original
contingencies in the approval and vote of March 8, 1990 and
having been satisfied that those conditions have been met that
we reaffirm our approval of the subdivision.
Second by Mitchell Lavine.
DOTE YES (5) B. Caldwell; M. Lavine J. Lalley; R. Fletcher
and M. Kelleher,
NO (0) Abstained
( 0 )
PB 7/15/93 P6w 3
DISCUSSION /RECOMMENDATION FOR REZONING CHANGE
NORTH OF THE VILLAGE OF DRYDEN
OMA TO RD
Chair Barbara Caldwell read the following letter 1^@c @ived
from the Town Supervisor, James F. Schuge
•
TOWN OF DRYDrN • DRYDEN, NEW YORK
65 EAST MAIN Stnttt, bnybEN, NEW Yonk 13051
607 -844 -8619 In the Ilearl of the Finger Lake hegioii
orrlrF or T11E surEnvtSOn
Barbara Caldwell
16 24 Ellis FFo.11ow Road
Ithaca, NY 14850
Rr.: Rezoning Area North of village
PQ;ir Barbara:
June 29, 199J
Flack on January 18, 1993 I requested the Planning Board to
review the possibility of rezoning the area adjacent to the
Village from MA to RD at the request of Ronald Goddard and Clyde
Cotter.ill. In March of 1993 I asked that you hold off until the
Dewitt application had been reviewed.
Mr.. Cotterill and Mr. Goddard again have requested a zoning
change. Wou.l.d you now please review this with the Planning Board
n!td give the Town Board your recommendation.
I believe you were involved at the time this was zoned MA
nriel there were strong requests by this group to have it an
^ottrd.
Because of the sewer and promising possibility for water
thir, i.^ nn T'xcellent MA area and the future of the Dryden tax
bar.,e lie:, with future Industrial/commercial businesses in MA
zones.
Thank
request.
you for
/m
cr: Town Don rd
Planning Board
FFenry Slater
you interest and consideration of this
Sincerely,
Jam ,s F. hug I
Sa ervisor
S .
RP 7/15/93 PG. 4
Mr. Clyde Cotterill stated that Mr. Goddard had called him
this afternoon and regretted not being able to be present and
requested that he speak on behalf of Dryden Enterprise which was
Incorporated some eight or ten years ago.
Mr. Clyde Cotterill indicated:
After selling a parcel of land to the Insurance Company they
were
informed
B.R.
by the
Town
that
it was
necessary to
subdivide.
property
and
for apartment
houses
which
an
They
have not
prohibited
sold a
parcel
of
land since
subdividing. The
taxes
were
$1,000.00
and
and now
they
are
$8,000.00.
The sale /proceeds from the two parcels of land were put back
in to sewer and roads. The corporation has not taken one
penny out.
Two
parties
B.R.
DeWitt
had
approached
to
an MA
buy
property
and
for apartment
houses
which
an
heavy
are
prohibited
is
in
an
MA
zone.
site.
This
year
B.R.
DeWitt
was
interested
an MA
Zone
you
and
the community is
against
any
an
heavy
industrial
It
is
heavy
at
this
site.
Anything
you
put in
an MA
Zone
you
can't
put
in
an
RD
Zone.
It
is
heavy
industrial
and
anything
that
qualifies
is
not
going
to
be
allowed.
Mr.
Goddard
requested
that
I
inform
you
that
he
has
talked
with
two
commercial
relaters
within
the
last
month
about
marketing
his
land.
They
stated
that
they
industrial
didn't
that
think
they
being
zoned
could
commercial
sell
that
land.
and
heavy
They
stated
that
If
it
is
not
rezoned,
don't
think
about
placing
it
on
the
market.
All other lands the McLean Road and Cortland Road is Zoned
RD.
Mr. Robert Lowery stated the following:
He is the General Manager of Dryden Mutual. "I want to put
this in general context. These people have been friends of
mine all my life. I bought this land from them, Clyde was
president of our company when I came to work for him. I
brought this situation, B.R. DeWitt, before my Board of
Directors and decided it would devalue our building and our
future plans. Our future plans have been presented to the
Town Board, we may have 184 to 300 people by the year 2020.
We want to buy the adjacent 4.4 acres. We want to buy it
now and I have negotiated with this group for probably four
or five years. In the States infinite wisdom says you can't
buy until you need it. When you need it, it won't be
there. If you took a drive to New Berlin and saw what
Preferred Mutual has done, or went to Edmonson these are
towns smaller then Dryden, and there are these huge
insurance companies, we're the same thing.
• We chose to be the loyal opposition, there were 650+ people
on petitions and we think we have recorded another 1,000
people who were ready to sign. We had well over 2,000
people in opposition."
PB 7/15/93 PG. 5
Robert Lowery continued:
"The B.R. DeWitt situation has gone away because they
haven't renewed the purchase offer, because they saw we were
Onot going to give in. But the situation here is still this
is a beautiful place for people to build. I would love to
have seen United Parcel, other places like that that are
more suitable. The cement plant would have been a great
thing, but we all, everyone thought it was in the wrong
location that's all. We are not opposed to B.R. DeWitt. It
was where it was and that was going to be devaluating to our
plant and also to our future plans, so we have to protect
ourselves. I think we pay some 30 or 32,000 dollars a year
in taxes now and will be paying a lot more when we finish
with the construction of what we already have planed and
presented before, not this Board, I think before another
Board.
That land lays dormant, they came to me and said "what do
you think ?" I said we can't be in opposition to everything
and we won't be. We would like the right of refusal if they
want to put up a formaldehyde plant or something." "We had
to oppose what we had to oppose only to protect ourselves."
Mr. Lowery cont
could be grante
apartment housi
to Zone) we may
it. Now maybe
and my company,
inued
d a re
ng. H
consi
that i
the d
t
z
e
S
s
e
o stat
oning
state
tently
s e 1 f i
valuat
e that
request
d "What
oppose
sh but
ion of
he hoped th
He was n
is there n
because we
I have to p
our buildin
e Corporation
of opposed to
ow (referring
don't want
rotect myself,
g
Clyde Cotterill stated they were always opposed to the MA Zone.
Clinton Cotterill advised the Board that the Zone was "CB" on
both sides of the road prior to 1985, 186. It was an allowed
industrial, commercial with just a zoning officer making sure it
conformed with all requirements plus a SEAR but no hearings were
required. Some things required a special permit. George
Schlecht was on the Board and suggested they go to an industrial
MA zone with a Site Plan Review. Because there was sewer there
and water available the Board made that area "Mn".
Barbara Caldwell
rezone it MA was
present is the on
For non residenti
Review was import
on the community,
not
the
ly
al
ant
ed that
issue
Zone wh
use adj
in ord
one of the concerns at that time to
of Site Plan Review. The MA Zone at
ere Site Plan Review is required.
acent to the Village a Site Plan
er to consider all types of impacts
The Board discussed the issues and process required for
applying for a permit in the "RD" zone.
•
PB 7/15/93 PG. 6
A development of over two acres would require a special permit.
M. Lavine
Lowery:
noted
that
can
if
this
the
parcels
zone
I
were
changed,
to have
as
it
stands
every
now, where
the
can
someone
the
RD Zone.
like
arises."
where
B.R.
RD
DeWitt
go
besides
suggested
RC.
an
placing
MA
a
Zone?
OH. Slater: Nowhere.
R.
Lowery:
"Then
noted
can
I
ask,
the
parcels
am
I
going
East
to have
to spend
$5,000.00
of this
every
time
the
Permit
issue
the
RD Zone.
to
arises."
where
the
RD
It
The
Board
Lalley
noted
Board send a
stated
that
the
parcels
on
the
that
East
a
side
be subject
of this
subdivision
to
of building
Permit
wishes
the
RD Zone.
to
become RD Zoned.
where
the
RD
It
is
now
suggested
RC.
J.
Lalley
Lalley
suggested
Board send a
stated
with
that
given
the
fact
that
we, as
a
Board,
be subject
the
implications
to
of building
Permit
in
the
RD Zone.
Looking
where
the
RD
Zones
in the
first
are now, would
suggested
be reluctant
at
placing
that
a
the
RC
become
RD
that
this
would
be
consistent
with
that
thought
process.
Have
this
MA
become
RD
since it is
highly
unlikely
that
any of
the
things
that
are
allowed
in the
MA
now
would
ever
get
permitted
to develope.
B. Lavine noted that maybe the Board should consider that all RD
Zones permits require a special permit review and add that
requirement when this request is presented to the Town Board.
H. Slater was concerned that all single family dwellings would
then require a Special Permit when built in the RD Zone.
J.
Lalley
recommended
suggested
Board send a
that
with
the Special
Town Board that
Permit
the
homeowner
would
to "RD"
understand
be subject
the
implications
to
of building
Permit
in
the
RD Zone.
Looking
where
the
RD
Zones
in the
first
are now, would
be reluctant
at
placing
a
signal
family
home
on Rt. 130
Joseph Lalley
also
recommended
that the Planning
Board send a
recommendation
to
to the
Town Board that
this particular MA zone be
rezoned from
allowed
an "MA"
to "RD"
"RD" Zone
AND
We
also
send a strong
recommendation
— what if
to
the
Town
Board
that any
allowed
changes
use in the
"RD" Zone
be subject
Zone to an
RD
to
Special
Permit
to consider
Review.
Special
the
Permit
Special
Review
Permit
for all
concern
uses
be
the
in the
first
RD Zone?
motion?
Joseph Lalley moved that the Planning Board send a
recommendation to the Town Board that this particular MA
zone be rezoned from an "MA" to "RD"
Second by Michael Kelleher.
Discussion:
B.
Lavine
— what if
on
our
recommendation
the Town
Board
changes
this
MA
Zone to an
RD
Zone
but refuses
to consider
the
Should
Special
the
Permit
Special
Review
Permit
for all
concern
uses
be
the
in the
first
RD Zone?
motion?
•
J. Lalley
stated that
PB 7 -15 -93 PG. 7
stated he could live with that and Mr. Kelleher
would be consistent with the other RD Zones.
J. Lalley stated: "I guess my preference is tonight in the
Ocurrent discussion we discovered what I think may be a weakness in the
"RD" regulations however, I think to keep this "Mn" Zone
is wrong because'clearly the Town doesn't want the kind of
development that is allowed to be in an MA Zone to happen
there. The RD is probably the most consistent, not totally
consistent when I think of what we want to have happen in that
general vicinity. We have just recommended that an area
directly across the street be considered for "RD" so I think it
is consistent with our ..(conclusions)... and I don't want to
hold that particular action hostage. I think we have identified
a genuine concern on the Board's part that we want to convey as
a separate motion, maybe within the same letter."
VOTE YES (5)
NO (0)
Be Caldwell; M. Lavine% J. Lalley; R. Fletcher
and M. Kelleher,
Abstained ( 0 )
Joseph Lalley moved that the Planning Board send a strong
recommendation, as strong as it can be, to the Town Board
that they consider- having all actions permitted by "RD" be
subject to a Special Permit Review. Amend the RD Article 9
district regulations zone such that all uses in 901 and 902
require a Special Permit Review as specified in Article 13
— Special Permits:
Second Mitchell Lavine,
Discussion: H. Slater no
been a single family resi
last home application did
VOTE YES (5) Be Caldwel
and M. Ke 1
NO (0) Abstained
Meeting Adjourned.
jr
•
ted that in t
dence built t
have a Speci
1; M. Lavine;
1 eher.
( 0 )
he RD Zone there hasn't
here in some time. The
al Permit Review.
J. Lalley; R. Fletcher
•
•
TOWN OF DRYDEN PLANNING BOARD
DECEMBER 16, 1993
DRAFT
AGENDA: RECOMMENDATION TO REZONE THE EAST SIDE OF NORTH ROAD
PEREGRINE HOLLOW SUBDIVISION (DEIS)
MEMBERS PRESENTb CHAIR. BARBARA CALDWELL; CLAUDIA BRENNERI JOHN
DAVIS; MITCHELL LAVINEJ AND JOSEPH LALLEY.
ALSO VIRESENTs. Dave Putnam; Henry Slater; Mario Giannella; Larry
Fabbroni; and Ralph Varn.
The Meeting was called to order by Chair. Barbara Caldwell.
Henry Slater
requested
that
the
Planning
Board place
on
record their
recommendation
that
the
East side
of North
Road be
rezoned from
RC to RD,
and
a
written
request
be submiltted
to the
Dryden 'town
but cannot substantiate
Board. Mr.
Slater
it
with
b@lieves
prior
this
minutes.
was done
previously
John Davis moved that the petitioned area for rezoning from
RC to RD be accomplished with the conting @ticy that all RD
projects be subject to Site Plan Review.
Second By Mitchell Lavine.
Discussions
Vote YES (4) C. Brenner; J. Davis; M. Lavine and J. Lalley.
NO
CARRIED
(0) ABSTAINED (0)
(Secretary to highlight motion and send to Town Board Members )
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