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DRYDEN TOWN PLANNING BOARD
APRIL 28, 1993
• AGENDA: CONSIDERATION OF A ZONING REQUEST FROM "M.A." TO "R.D."
REVIEW ZONING REQUEST FROM " R. P. " TO "M.A." ( LUCENTE
SUBDIVIS -ION).
SKETCH CONFERENCE FOR WESCOTT DEVELOPMENT
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MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairwoman Barbara Caldwell, Mitchell Lavine,
Claudia Brenner, Joseph Lal ley and John Davis.
AMONG THOSE PRESENT: Donald Wescott, Scott Simpson, Joseph
Wissenbach, Steve Lucente, Larry Fabbroni, Mr. R. Lucente and
Henry Slater.
The
Meeting was
called to order by Chairwoman Barbara
Caldwell.
need to
be taken.
A motion was made by M. Lavine to approve the March 24, 1993
minutes with additions and corrections. Second by John Davis and
approved by members present.
SKETCH CONFERENCE FOR WESCOTT DEVELOPMENT
FACTS AND FINDINGS:
1. Mr. Wissenbach, L. S. stated the grade of the road coming in
starts up high on Rt. 13 and goes down towards the low lying
stream and goes back Lip again never exceeding ten percent.
2. Nine lot subdivision
3. The area not considered for development should /would become
part of a designated lot.
4. A buffer has been placed along the Avery Park property.
5. Henry Slater
to verify the
significance of the stream and if
any considerations
need to
be taken.
6. On the West side of the property a strip has been designated
for a possible road for any future development. The property
adjacent may /could be developed by the owner and may /could
connect to Annie Lane which is 1600 feet away.
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7. The access to the `fellow Frei
• Site Flan Review Board.
a. Henry Slater stated
S ton max. the acce
DOT and the Town of
Dryden as a Special
Freight Terminal sa
traffic on Dutcher
ght T
that
ss wa
Dryd
Perm
id th
Road.
erminal
Dutche
s disco
en prev
it agre
ere wil
PS 4/26/93 Figo, 2
was approved by the
r Road is posted for
sled by the County,
iously. The Town of
ement for Yellow
1 be no commercial
b. Henry also stated that George Schletch and DOT felt
that it was better to get heavy traffic away from
the intersection because of the grade issue on
Dutcher Road and because you already have a strange
intersection with Livermore and Simms Hill Road.
c. Mr. Lavine stated that it may advantages to close
off the entrance to Dutcher Road at the Rt. 13
intersection and to have the residence access Rt.
13 through the proposed road, straight between lots
3 and 4.
d. If Dutcher Road were closed commercial and
residential traffic would access Rt. 13 by the same
path.
e. Mr,. Wescot
• Truck Term
drive comi
13. He co
as it woul
didn't wan
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t stated
inal perm
ng off Du
uld have
d have be
t that so
t
i
t
b
e
hat when h
t his firs
cher Road
wilt for a
n placed o
they moved
e appeared
t map showe
and not ent
fraction o
n the level
it.
for the
d the
eying Rt.
f the cost
, and they
Mr.
Lavine
stated
tie understood
that
Dutcher
Road
was
can
better
Kay
not
still
Drive.
intended
by
make
moving
the
to be used
curb cut
the end of
for
on
Dutcher
heavy
Rt.
trucks.
13 work
Road
Out
to
We
much
Leilani
f. Mr. Lalley
North of t
of the Vil
order to d
necessary
traffic to
was
he V
lage
et er-
to b
use
i
m
U
also concern
llage from b
Would like
ine what can
ild up Dutch
one curb cut
ed in
ecomi
to s
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er Ro
keeping Rt. 13
ng like it is West
ee the site in
ld be done. May be
ad in order for all
g. To obtain the opinion /comments from George
Schletht.
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PB 4/28/93 Pg. 3
• 8. Lots 3, 4, and 5 may have access on Dutcher Road. These lots
may be considered residential lots to conform with the
residential area on Dutcher Road.
a. Mr
De
to
if
co
De
Wis
part m
is we
this
mmerc
part m
senb
ent
re s
.goe
ial
ent
ach stated
would not
pecificall
s through
developmen
inspection
the Tompkins County Health
be involved if four or less
y dedicated for residential,
as a commercial development.
t only requires Health
on permit application..
80 The subdivision is not in an Agricultural District.
9. The road for future use should have a radius cut.
y
i�. Discussed the buffer strip, which was placed by the Park
boundary line as a condition of the Special Permit, who
becomes responsible, who should own, deed restrictions, etc..
a. Could the buffer strip be sold to Park? Would
require a lot line change review? Would still make
the Park residence a non conforming lot and the
legality of doing so.
11. Is
there a
is
requirement
a
little
that
the
lots
be
designated
in
as
the
road
where
Mrs.
Levin
comes
out
of
residential
property,
or
commercial?
so
Issues
the
may
be
looked
at
different
• if
the
Board
knew
has
which
would
be residential
moved.
and
which
would
be
commercial.
This
is
the
first
time
the
Board
remembers
a
mixed
subdivision.
that
would
have
road
frontage
SKETCH CONFERENCE
PROPOSED TECHNOLOGY PARK (HANSHAW /ROUTE 13) STEVE LUCENTE
REVIEW REQUESTED ZONING CHANGE FROM "R. B. —1" TO "M. A.
L. Fabbroni stated that the following changes have been
considered:
1. There
is
a
little
rise
in
the
road
where
Mrs.
Levin
comes
out
of
her
property,
so
the
entrance
to
the
project
has
been
moved.
The
properties
that
would
have
road
frontage
on both
the
Hanshaw
and
an
interior
road
have
been designated
as
an
industrial
site.
When
entering
the
project
there
is
an
industrial
site
on
either
side.
In
consideration
of
the
Levin
property
the
two
sites,
one
on either
side
of
the
Levin
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property,
have
been
deemed
residential.
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RP 4 -28 -93 Pg 4
30 The road has been altered some. Industrial property
next to Ludgates.
4. The
private
drive
North
"13
-i"
between
would remain
for
emergency
vehicles
should
lands
it
be
necessary.
stretch
Cardinal
Drive would
be
one
way
in
that
that
vicinity.
is
now
being
s. Lots at the North end are now "square ".
60 Two right -of -ways one to the East that could some day
line up with the road that comes in from Hanshaw to the
U Store It facilities. It would also provide access to
the rear of some properties along Hanshaw Road.
The
one
to the
North
between
may
24 -i
and 25 -i would access
Cornell
lands
and
tie
into
stretch
the drive
way access that
goes
to
Rt.
130
that
is
now
being
7. Wet lands immediately adjacent to the Sanctuary have
been left as open lands.
8. The requested MA change involves lots 1 through 12, part
of 13 -i and lots 47 through 52.
90 Traffic estimated at completion.would add 3,000 trips a
day.
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Mr. Lavine felt that access to the project should be obtained by
providing access to the MA Zone that is already there. (Royal
Road - the Town would have to map it - and it should be pursued)
The Board reviewed the tax map for the site.
Mr.
Lavine
stated
it
may
be
difficult
to
enforce
way
stretch
of
road
that
is
now
being
shown.
the short one
Mr. Fabbroni objected to the term Spot Zoning as the area would
be added to an already existing MA Zone.
Consideration and discussion of zoning the whole area MA with
existing non conforming residential lots were considered,
designating buffer strips along the industrial lots.
Ms. Caldwell sugg
essentially a con
across, leaving t
bottom line of th
would open up the
e
t
h
e
i
sted h
inuati
e fron
Eight
r back
aving the MA zon
on of the back 1
tage on Hanshaw
Square School H
portions as MA.
e
i
a
0
go from a line that was
ne of the SPICA that went
s residential, to the
use property. This
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FB 4 -`8 -93 Gg. S
Mr. S. Lucente stated that in the future opening Lip more lands
for an MA Zone might be appropriate, however was concerned with
the hardship which he faces with his MA zone land locked.
Including property owners now.may have a riling effect which he
is trying to avoid.
Mr. Lalley wished to know
ask the Town Board for th
from Royal Road to the pr
would /will take responsib
undertakene
i
ei
op
it
f it wa
r opini
osal fo
ity for
s appropriate for this Board to
on on taking a right -of -way
r a future road? Who
building if this were
The Chair will ask the Town Attorney if the proposal as presented
is "spot zoning ".
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DRYDEN TOWN PLANNING BOARD
APRIL 28, 1993
AGENDA: CONSIDERATION OF A ZONING REQUEST FROM "M.A." TO "R.D."
REVIEW ZONING REQUEST FROM " R. P. " TO "M.A." ( LUCENTE
SUBDIVISION).
SKETCH CONFERENCE FOR WESCOTT DEVELOPMENT
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairwoman Barbara Caldwell, Mitchell Lavine,
Claudia Brenner,Joseph Lalley and John Davis.
AMONG THOSE PRESENT: Donald Wescott, Scott Simpson, Joseph
Wissenbach, Steve Lucente, Larry Fabbroni, Mr. R. Lucente and
Henry Slater,
The
to verify the
Meeting
was called to order by Chairwoman Barbara
Caldwell.
need
the
be taken.
A motion was made by M. Lavine to approve the March 24, 1993
minutes with additions and corrections. Second by John Davis and
approved by members present.
SKETCH CONFERENCE FOR WESCOTT DEVELOPMENT
FACTS AND FINDINGS:
1. Mr. Wissenbach,
to verify the
of the
L. S.
stated
need
the
be taken.
grade
of
the
road
coming in
starts
up
high
on Rt.
13
and
goes
be developed
down
towards
by
the
low lying
stream
and
goes
back
up
again
never
feet
away.
exceeding
ten
percent.
2. Nine lot subdivision
3. The area not considered for development should /would become
part of a designated lot.
4. A buffer has been placed along the Avery Park property.
5. Henry Slater
to verify the
of the
significance of the stream and if
any considerations
need
to
be taken.
6. On the West
side
of the
property
a
strip
has been designated
for a possible
road for
any
future
development.
The
property
adjacent
may /could
be developed
by
the
owner and may
/could
connect to
Annie
Lane which
is
1600
feet
away.
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PB 4/28/93 Pg. S
7. The access to the Yellow Freight Terminal was approved by the
Site Flan Review
Lavine
Terminal
Board.
he understood
his
first
map showed
Dutcher
the
was
can
better
drive
13.
intended
by
coming
He could
a. Henry
Dutcher
Slater
heavy
Rt.
stated
not
fraction
that
Dutcher
Rt.
cost
Road
it
is posted
have
that
for
5
ton
max.
the level,
it.
the access
and
was
discussed
determine
to
by
the
County,
DOT
/should
and
the
Town
of
Dryden
previously.
be
all
traffic
The
Town
of
Dryden
one
as a
Special
Permit
agreement
for
Yellow
Freight
Terminal
said
there
will
be
no
commercial
traffic
on
Dutcher
Road.
b. Henry a
that it
the int
Dutcher
intense
lso st
was t
ersect
Road
ction
at ed that
etter to g
ion becaus
and becaus
with Liver
Ge
et
e
e
mo
orge Schletch and DOT felt
heavy traffic away from
of the grade issue on
you already have a strange
re and Simms Hill Road.
c. Mr. Lavine stated that it may advantages to close
off the entrance to Dutcher Road at the Rt. 13
intersection and to have the residence access Rt.
13 through the proposed road, straight between lots
3 and 4.
d. If Dutcher Road were closed commercial and
residential traffic would access Rt. 13 by the same
path.
e. Mr. Wescott stated that when he appeared for the
Truck
Lavine
Terminal
permit
he understood
his
first
map showed
Dutcher
the
was
can
better
drive
13.
intended
by
coming
He could
off
have
Dutcher
built
heavy
Rt.
Road and
for a
not
fraction
entering
of
the
Rt.
cost
as
didn't
it
would
want
have
that
been
so
they
placed
on
moved
the level,
it.
and
they
Mr.
Lavine
stated
he understood
also
that
Dutcher
Road
was
can
better
not
still
intended
by
make the
moving
to be used
curb
the end
cut
of
for
on
Dutcher
heavy
Rt.
trucks.
13 work out
Road to
We
much
Leilani
Kay
Drive.
Would
like
to
see
the
site
f. Mr.
North
Lalley
of
the
was
Village
also
concerned
from becoming
in keeping
like
it
Rt.
13
is West
of the
Village.
Would
like
to
see
the
site
in
order
necessary
to
determine
to
build
what can
up Dutcher
/should
Road
be
in
done.
order
May
for
be
all
traffic
to
use
one
curb cut.
g. To
obtain
the opinion /comments from George
Schlecht.
pB 4/28/93 pg. 3
8. Lots 3,4, and 5 may have access on Dutcher Road. These lots
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may be considered residential lots to conform with the
residential area on Dutcher Road.
an Mr. Wissenbach stated the Tompkins County Health
Department would not be involved if four or less
lots were specifically dedicated for residential,
if this goes through as a commercial developmento
commercial development only requires Health
Department inspection on permit application..
84 The subdivision is not in an Agricultural District.
9. The road for future use should have a radius cut.
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14Z�. Discussed the buffer strip, which was placed by the park
boundary line as a condition of the Special permit, who
becomes responsible, who should own, deed restrictions, etc..
a. Could the buffer strip be sold to park? Would
require a lot line change review? Would still make
the park residence a non conforming lot and the
legality of doing so.
11. Is there a requirement that the lots be designated as
• residential or commercial? Issues may be looked at different
if the Board knew which would be residential and which would
be commercial. This is the first time the Board remembers a
mixed subdivision.
SKETCH CONFERENCE
PROPOSED TECHNOLOGY PARK (HANSHAW /ROUTE 13) STEVE LUCENTE
REVIEW REQUESTED ZONING CHANGE FROM "R.B. -1" TO "M.A.
L. Fabbroni stated that the following changes have been
considered:
1. There
is
a
little
that
rise
would
in the
road
where Mrs.
Levin
comes
out
of
the
her
property,
so
the
entrance to
the
project
has
been
moved.
Hanshaw
`. The
properties
that
would
have
road
frontage
on
both
the
Hanshaw
and
an
interior
road
have
been
designated
as
an
industrial
site.
When
entering
the
project
there
is
an
industrial
site
on either
side.
In
consideration
of
the
Levin
property
the
two
sites,
one
on
either
side
of
the
• Levin
property,
have
been
deemed
residential.
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PB 4 -28 -93 Pg 4
3. The
private
road
has been
altered some.
Industrial property
next
would remain for
to
Ludgates.
open
should
4. The
private
immediately
drive
"13
-i"
between
would remain for
emergency
vehicles
open
should
lands
it
be
necessary.
Cardinal
Drive would
be
one
way
in that
vicinity.
that
is
now
5a Lots at the North end are now "square ".
B. Two right -of -ways one to the East that could some day
line up with the road that comes in from Hanshaw to the
U Store It facilities. It would also provide access to
the rear of some properties along Hanshaw Road.
The
one
immediately
to the
North
change
between
24 -i
and 25 -i would access
Cornell
open
lands.
lands
and
tie
into
the drive
way access that
goes
to
52.
Rt. 130
road
that
is
now
7. Wet
lands
immediately
should
MA
change
adjacent to the Sanctuary have
been
left
as
open
lands.
of
13 -i
8. The
requested
and discussion
should
MA
change
the MA Zone that
involves
lots
1 through
12,
part
of
13 -i
and
lots
the short one
47 through
stretch
52.
of
road
90 Traffic estimated at completion would add 3,000 trips a
day.
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Mr. Lavine felt that
access to the project
and discussion
should
be obtained by
providing access to
the MA Zone that
is already
be
there. (Royal
Road - the Town would
have to map it
- and
it
should be pursued)
The Board reviewed the tax map for the site.
Mr.
Lavine
and discussion
objected
stated
to
it
may
be
difficult
designating
Spot
Zoning as the area would
to
enforce
the short one
way
stretch
existing
of
road
that
is
now
being
shown.
Mr.
Fabbroni
and discussion
objected
the whole area MA with
to
non
the
residential
term
designating
Spot
Zoning as the area would
be
added
to
an
already
existing
MA
Zone.
Consideration
and discussion
of zoning
the whole area MA with
existing
non
conforming
residential
lots were considered,
designating
buffer
strips along the
industrial lots.
Ms. Ca
essent
across
bottom
would
1
i
s
0
dwell
ally
leav
line
pen u
suggested having the MA zon
a continuation of the back 1
ing the frontage on Hanshaw
of the Eight Square School H
p their back portions as MA,
e go from a line that was
ine of the SPCA that went
as residential, to the
ouse property. This
FHB 4 -28 -9 Pg. 5
Mr. S. Lucente stated that in the future opening up more lands
40 for an MA Zone might be appropriate, however was concerned with
the hardship which he faces with his MA zone land locked.
Including property owners now may have a riling effect which he
is trying to avoid.
Mr.
Lalley
wished
to know
if
it
was appropriate
for
this Board to
ask
the
Town Board
for
their
opinion
on taking
a right
-of -way
from
would/will
Royal
Road to
take responsibility
the
proposal
for a future
for building
road?
if
this
Who
were
undertaken.
The Chair will ask the Town Attorney if the proposal as presented
is "spot zoning ".
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