HomeMy WebLinkAbout1986-12-18PLANNING BOARD MEETING
• December 18, 1986
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Barbara
Caldwell called the meeting
order.
Those present: Gene
Rotunda, Ron
Chase, Rosemarie Bobnick,
Julie
Lee. Absent: Mr.
Levine. Mr.
Slater was delayed and would
arrive
soon.
The minutes of December 4, 1986 were presented in draft form.
There were two additions:
1.) The name change proposal for Sodom Road would be
investigated further.
2.) The drainage report on Dryden Housing project to
be included.
There were no other additions, corrections or clarifications. A
motion was made to approve the minutes as amended. MOTION SECONDED.
CARRIED.
FOR YOUR INFORMATION! Due to the deed restrictions and
legalities each person is to be given a copy of the final subdivision
map.
• Barbara Caldwell introduced Mr. Larry Fabroni. Mr. Fabroni is
engineer- surveyor for Rocco Lucente presenting a seven lot
subdivision which was presented previously in December 1980 for
sketch plan approval. In January after receiving preliminary
subdivision approval the Town Board was petitioned for approval.
Water and sewer districts were established for the seven lots and
were approved by the Town Board in May 1981. Once that process was
completed it took the better part of 1981 to get the state health
department approval of the water district. Simultaneously approval
from the Village of Cayuga Heights to connect the sanitary sewer to
the seven lots was also sought. To date that still has not happened.
Mr. Lucente felt that six years was long enough to wait and
decided to come back to the Planning Board for an re- reading of the
whole proposal before beginning again.
A description of the seven lots and their configuration
followed: On the last map in the set the Board members received
there is the key map for the Cardinal Drive subdivision, which was an
earlier 12 lot subdivision. Prior to the approval of the Planning
Board the water line was required to be looped down Cardinal Drive
and up the future proposed road to the Meadowlark Road subdivision
which already existed. The preliminary layout for the future road
would come down Hanshaw Road so that the water line could be placed
in a North, South direction. When following the subdivision
ordinances and curvatures required you take that North, South Road to
Hanshaw Road at a right angle east of Ludgates with the resulting
configuration seen on your maps particularly for lot seven.
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When trying to obtain permission for connedtion to the sewer
district the Town Board was approached. Mayor Cotterill asked for
permission and was told "no ".
John Anderson
approved
the
utility extensions
for the
subdivision which now
will have
to
have some specification
update.
An explanation of both Cardinal Drive subdivision and the
Meadowlark subdivision followed. Mr. Fabroni further explained that
the Town Board approved the sewer and water districts but didn't get
permission from the Village of Cayuga Heights to connect the sewer.
Once a year and a half had elapsed it was felt that the planning
board's approval needed to be updated.
Mr. Fabroni had been asked if they were still planning to get
connect the sewer and water with the Village of Cayuga Heights to
which he responded that that is the first request. The second is
that if there is public water what to do if there is a need to
temporarily have a private sewer. There is definitely no problem
obtaining public water. An alternative to the sewer problem could be
to install septic tanks and remove the solids and put the liquid into
the public sewer and then just pump the tanks. The Newfield system
was used as another example - each lot has its own holding tank and
then the waste goes into the public system and then to a combined
field. In this case it would go into a public sewer and the only
reason would be if somehow that satisfies the Village of Cayuga
Heights.
The
question
of road
frontages being less than 125 feet was
brought
up. It was
clarified
that the ordinance allows for less
frontage
with public
water and
sewage.
Mr. Fabroni was asked whether these would be single family
dwellings or multiple family dwellings and the response was that the
units would be two family units. j
Mr. Fabroni was further asked what exactly he was asking of the
Board. He responded, "We're asking you essentially to re- affirm the
preliminary approval so that we can go back to where we were with
John and the village five years ago ".
It was then explained to Mr. Fabroni that this would have to be
treated as a new request. There would have to be another public
hearing and presented as if no one had ever seen it before, because
the time limit had expired and also because approval had been
contingent on water and sewer and lot size. Mr. Fabroni said that
there was no question about the water that the Town Board had asked
Bolton Water Commission whether there could be a connection. Bolton
Water Commission requested that an independent engineer look at
everything. The town hired an independent engineer and he stated
that what was presented was factual and correct and there proceeded
to be much correspondence before the Health Department application
was completed to everyones satisfaction and sent to the state. So,
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there's no problem on the water at all.
The Board decided that it wants to look at the Environmental
Assessment Form.
A motion was made to declare an unlisted action. MOTION
SECONDED. CARRIED.
Public Hearing is set for 9:30 on January 15.
The next issue: Renaming Sodom Road.
A petition was presented which included everyone on Sodom Road
that did not sign the positive request except two people who were
unavailable for signature. 900 of the people did not want the name
changed. The people petitioned previously didn't live on the road.
Julie recommended to the Board that the name not be changed.
MOTION SECONDED. Discussion followed. MOTION CARRIED.
Meeting adjourned.
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