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BI.XLER & STUMBAR
ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELORS AT LAW
207 EAST COURT STREET
ITHACA, NEW YORK 14850
ELIZABETH J. BIXLER
L. RICHARD STUMBAR
September 9,
B. Caldwell, Chairperson
Town of Dryden Planning Board
Dryden Town Hall
Dryden, NY 13053
Re: Application of Ormsby
Subdivision Approval
1986
Dolph, Jr. for
TELEPHONE 273-6300
Dear Ms. Caldwell:
I am in receipt of Mr. Anderson's letter to your
Board declining on behalf of the Tompkins County Health
Department to assume lead agency status in the above
matter.
It is my understanding that more than fifteen days
have elapsed since the filing of Mr. Ormsby's completed
application.
If this is in fact the case, the time
act under the SEQRA Regulations (Title 617
has expired. In that event, on behalf of
an abutting land owner who I represent, I
new hearing in this matter.
If a new hearing is not conducted,
notification of any meeting at which a
in this matter will be discussed by you
Thank you for your courtesies.
LRS /sd
CC: Dirk A. Galbraith, Esq.
V Frederick Beck, Jr., Esq,
AREA CODE 607
in which to
of N.Y.C.R.R.)
Mary Katzenstein,
would request :a
I would request
SEQRA determination
r Board.
Very truly%yours,
L. Ric and Stumbar
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TOWN OF DRYDEN September 11, 1986
PLANNING BOARD Special Work Session
Planning Board met Sept. 11, 1986 at 8:00 p.m. for special work session
on zoning revisions. Members present: Chr. B. Caldwell, R. Lampila, J. Lee, hvk"U4e)
H. Slater, & Z.O.S.Stewart.
M. Webb & B. Dolph.
Absent: R.M.Bobnick, & R. Chase. Also present:
B. Caldwell read two letters Board received - J. Anderson - Health Dept. &
R. Stumbar - Attorney both regarding Hungerford Notch subdivision. Letters on
file.
B. Caldwell suggested since Board had time frame commitments & some legal
questions were involved, they wish to involve Town Attorney.
R. Lampila - I've thought a lot about this particular subdivision & in view
of this one & some others we've looked at, I personally have no reservations. C.
Page, representative of Ellis Hollow Community has commended Mr. Dolph for his
work there & I haven't heard Piny valid complaints. Made motion to have M. Perkins
Town Attorney, assist & direct Board in it's decision & proceed with negative
declaration. Seconded .�y J. Lee. No discussion.
VOTE All YES CARRIED
B. Caldwell - We'll work on Articles 4 & 5 tonight. Any comments or suggestions?
R. Lampila - I've thought about what we've been going through past 6 weeks. I
feel residents have expressed very definite desires past couple years. Truthfully,
I believe we'd be doing excellent to bring trailer parks under control, trailers
on single lots, do remapping, & review P.U.D.'s. Maybe we could give it to Town
Board by next spring. Then they could have public hearing & informal meetings.
I haven't heard any complaints in terms of way our zoning is structured or
administered, or workability of it. I questioned Mrs. Brown extensively when
she presented survey to us requesting R -B -1. zone. She is relatively (not 1000/0),
in a comfort zone. She finds R -B -1 acceptable in our zoning. Remapping is far
bigger job this time around than anything we've seen when we were dealing with
coninercial zones. Residential zones cover a very large area. Do you know where
I'm coming from?
M. Webb - Not for us, but we have attorney there to tell us legal aspects.
B. Lavine questioned what had happened at previous meeting.
B. Caldwell explained that Gary had prepared brief outline, 2nd level
outline, generalized headings of total & also 2nd level expanded for first
three articles. He felt bulk of work would be in first 3 articles. We
decided to do bulk of articles 4 & 5 which involve SEQR & subdivisions. We
have their expanded version tonight. Then we'll go back to areas which
obviously require more concern. Roger has just raised concern for feasibility
of this approach.
B. Lavine - I don't think procedure we're going.through now will take that
long. We've done well the past couple of months w /outline.
H. Slater - We've got the outline but we haven't really done anything
because we can't agree on "how" to proceed.
M. Webb - Town Board would like to see time frame. They are taking a
couple of temporary stop gaps because of trailer park concerns. They're
stopping mobile homes & mobile home parks temporarily unless they have
access to public water & sewer. Town Board is referring exceptional case to
Plannirq Board now. Must be approved by both Boards. Applicant will put
money for sewer repairs in escrow so there will be guaranteed sum of
money in bank. Haven't agreed on amount as yet.
R. L(ampila - What time frame do we have to turn this back to Tom Board?
M. Webb - Sixty days I think.
I-1. Slates - My main objective is to clean up existing mobile home parks.
13. Caldwell - I appreciate wanting to.get this done soon, but still believe
it 's easier to work from new document in chunks rather than patching the old.
Could we try just one chunk of outline now to see if we could work together?
There are areas we'll need Town Boards' help. For instance, we have no
concept o[ dollar amounts on fee issues,
M. Webb - Mahlon is working up something for Tom Board. I'll see you get copy.
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TOWN OF DRYDEN September 18, 1986
PLANNING BOARD
Planning Boa
calledlieeting to
J. Lee, R. Lampil
& R.M. Bobnick, &
J. Zwart, P. Haug
rd
or
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Z.
in,
met Sept
der 8:05
& H. Sla
0. S. St
K. West
embe
PM.
ter.
ewar
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r 18, 1986. Acting Chr. B.Lavine
Members present: B.Lavine,
Absent: B.Caldwell, R. Chase,
t. Also present: B. Keech,
ng, 0. Dolph, R. Thaler, R. Yonkin.
Public hearing for B. Keech - Five lot subdivision on Beam
Hill, formerly submitted by M. Pirsic.
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B. Keech present - Stated G. Lamont had walked site, presented
letter from J. Anderson, Health Dept.
DISCUSSION: EAF, location of driveway on one lot, health approval,
SCS approval. No comments from public.
H.
SLATER
motion
to approve preliminary
plat for
5 lot subdivision
on
Beam Hill
contingent upon
satisfactory
completition
of final
Health
Dept.
report, approved
EAF, & SCS
report.
Seconded by
R.
LAMPILA.
No
further
discussion.
Publi
Drive. J.
dent, stat
between Br
r -o -w back
objections
c he
Zwa
ing
idle
to
VOTE ALL YES CARRIED
aring for change of r
rt present - Had lett
they had no plans for
Lane & Crystal Drive
land owners on either
-o -w for J-. Zwart on Crystal
er from Town Highway Superinten-
future development of road
Town Board willing to deed
side if Planning Board had no
DISCUSSION: R. Lampila had spoken to developer on Bridle Lane,
(J. Murphy) - No objections, would like to check w /their legal
council because their property had never been officially deeded
to Town. They would also like Town to make release available to
them so they could deed it w /lot when sold.
NO ACTION TAKEN. Concern w /precedent possibilities.
Hungerford Notch Subdivision - Board had letters from
J. Anderson & L. Fabbroni.
0. Dolph & R. Thaler present - Dolph had not had opportunity to
speak w /Fabbroni since his letter dated yesterday. Dolph felt
most problems could be easily remedied - he will discuss these
w /Fabbroni & MacDowell.
LENGTHY DISCUSSION: Problems w /lot #11; options to do away with
lot entirely, adding it to adjacent lots, possibly dividing it
along creek, or make lot 10 a little smaller & adding to lotll, to
make it saleable lot. Technicalities in Larry's drawing (ie; caps
on pipes, & other such procedural items, placement of systems 100'
from creek etc.), deed restrictions, check dams, drainage, DEC,
road salt, questioned Town Highway Dept. not using salt on one
section of road - phosphates & nitrates - possibility of "extra"
insurance w /fill systems & increasing diversion ditches,- SEQR
process, & EAF.
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J. LEE motion Planning Board declare itself lead agency regarding
SEQR. Seconded by R.LAMPILA. No discussion.
VOTE ALL YES
CARRIED
H. SLATER motion to accept documents listed on separate page, to
be sent to Town Attornev Perkins for appropriate wording.
Seconded by J. LEE.
VOTE ALL YES CARRIED
Presentation
by
Patricia
Haugin & Karel Westerling for mobile
home park on
West
Dryden
Road.
Haugin &
Westerling
present. Presented maps &
engineering
drawing
- had
been referred by Town Board for
recommendation
w /condition
that proposed agreement be worked
out to satisfaction
of both
Town
& Planning Board.
DISCUSSION: primary concerns - increased traffic, Water, sewer -
denial of first request for 48 units - Presently seeking permission
for 36 units w /possibility to expand to 48 units - (6 clusters of
6 units per cluster) Desire an upscale park - presented 20 page
regulation booklet for park residents - proposed escrow account -
(sufficient to replace pumps, wells or septic system) Town could
trigger fund & order repairs. Certificate of costs - model
agreement for escrow account. No on site management ( Westerling
resides one (1) mile away.) Dumpsters & disposal pick -up -
Secondary access for emergency vehicles.
ZONING REVISIONS - B. Lavine stated G. Evans could be available
at work sessions for clarification & comments - Regular work
sessions were suggested - Possibly first Thursdays of month.
Next meeting set for Sept. 25. (Dolph) 8:00 PM
Meeting adjourned 12:30 A.M.
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Secretary,
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Sept. 18, 1986
Motion made by J. Lee that Planning Board be lead agency for
Hungerford Notch subdivision (Ormsby B. Dolph). Seconded by
R. Lampila. No discussion.
VOTE
ALL YES
CARRIED
Motion
made by H.
Slater to
accept following documents to be
sent to
Attorney
M. Perkins
for appropriate wording, being as
Board is
leaning
toward affirmative
position for Hungerford
Notch subdivision:
1.
Engineers
report from
Larry Fabbroni (original-no date).
2.
Supplement
to Engineers
report w /exception to road salt
paragraph.
(Board based
acceptance of this report on
experience
w /Fabbroni
rather than understanding technical
language of
report as
presented) Road salt section as
presented
is not acceptable
as Town practice to Boards'
knowledge.
3.
Letter from
J. Anderson,
Health Dept. Board asked Mr.
Dolph
to pursue
enlarging diversion
trenches for sand filters
above pond
to double
capacity.
4.
Letter from
S.C.S., G.
LaMotte, to B. Caldwell.
5.
Deed restrictions
as
proposed.
6.
Letter from
Highway Superintendent
D. Gilbert.
Boards'
approval
conditional
upon final approval from Health
Dept.,
S.C.S.
report.
VOTE
ALL YES
CARRIED
Secretary,