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Home My WebLink About1985-08-238/23/85 To: The Town Board, Town of Dryden From: The Planning Board, Town of Dryden Re: Proposed Multi - Family Project Intended for TC -3 Students Background: At the request of the Town Board (8/13/85) the Planning Board has studied the above project in detail. We had a preliminary presentation and discussion at our meeting on August 15th. We then scheduled a special meeting specifically on this subject to be held August 22nd. In the interim Planning Board,members toured the site and and studied additional materials.such as soil maps and aerial photos. At the meeting on August 22nd, the Planning Board heard a- presentation from the developers, a presentation from the Lee Rd. residents, questioned the developers, questioned the residents, and had a lengthy dialog with the developers and residents. Based on all these factors and on discussion among the Planning Board members at the meeting, we wish to make the following statement. While no specific data was presented to us on the need for such housing, the Planning Board members do not question that such a need exists, and that its availability will enhance the competitive position of TC -3. The site as originally developers, after thei methods of mitigating either the original si Would move the project that other site locati If they are not feasib the current proposed s proposed to us has sorroe severe limitations. While the r meeting with residents on August 20th, have come up with some of the problems and concerns, we cannot recommend favorably to or the proposed adjustment presented to us August 22nd which slightly to the North closer to the TC -3 line. We do recommend ons than this TC -3 Foundation property be cons i de redo f i_rt _Cif le, we would suggest that a site approximately 600 1:4 east of ite on the TC -3 Foundation property be considered. We would like to commend both the developers and the residents for their thorough, thoughtful attempts to resolve this problem. We would hope that any other site would receive the same consideration. We would like to make some additional comments, specifically as they relate to the original site and the modified site as presented August 22nd but which may also have some bearing on the consideration of any other site. Drainage and increased run -off were a concern as originally presented. The developers have come up with a detailed drainage plan which appears to meet the need. Any drainage plan, however, should be checked by someone having adequate technical expertise to analyze such a plan, possibly as part of a DEIS (Draft Environmental Impact State- ment under the State Environmental Quality Review Act). The proposed road in from Livermore Rd. was long, steep, and cut across an access way to the Village reservoir. At the meeting of 8/22 a straighter version of this was - presented. This, while still steep, was not quite as long, would avoid the reservoir, make it possible to better block pedestrian access to Lee Rd, and still meet the maximum grade requirements of the Town. Our secondary recommendation above, moving the site about 6001ntould, of course, further decrease the length of the road although a steep portion would still be present. It also would make it �asier, perhaps, to further inhibit pedestrian access to Lee Rd. Pedestrian access to Lee Rd. was a great con ern, The developers, by moving the road YL (and by possibly moving the proposal 600`A the 2 st), have helped make Lee Rd.! i page 2, less accessible a fence'-and plan if the TC -3 Foun should be adequa need little, if Adequate provisi it will have a s fence to keep pe exploration shou the TC -3 propert to Town Board from Planning Board) i as a possible pedestrian route. The developers have also suggested tings which at maturity would become a thorny barrier. We feel that elation property is used for this or similar projects, any barrier to by time of occupancy. The thorny growth, once established, will any, maintenance and will aid in some ground level visual screening. on should be made to plant this at the beginning of any project so tart on becoming established, and to provide an interim barrier or destrian patterns from becoming established to Lee Rd. Further jld be made with TC -3 about paths being established to the edge of C] While the developers have made some provisions for on -site noise control by having a resident manager and some lease provisions, the original site and the modification of August 22nd. still present too great a potential for altering the residential quality of the area both visually and by noise impact. While the site approximately 600',i7rasyt would not eliminate these factors, they would be mitigated, and that site would be worthy of consideration if other parcels of land reasonably close to TC -3 do not appear feasible. i IWWN Ur• DRYDEN AuuuaL. ' °(, iyt�7 PLANNING BOARD SPECIAL MEETING Planning Board met 8- 27 -85. ,Acting Chr. B. Lavine called special meeting to order 8:10 PM with members R. Lampila R. Chase, R. Beck, •H. Slater, B. Caldwell, & Z.O. S. Stewart present. Absent- J. Hunt. B Lavine asked if Board wanted to o over minutes of past,four B. g meetings. Board agreed to wait until next regular meeting, 9 -19 -85 and have as first priority. GENERAL DISCUSSION of draft Barbara so nicely put together. STATEMENT from J. Macrina - "We the residents would like to clarify our position on this proposal. We feel that locating these buildings anywhere on adjacent TC3 Foundation property would still have the same detrimental effect & is not acceptable: We'd also recommend that an Environmental Impact Study be done. End of statement." Gave written copy of statement to Board. B. Lavine asked audience to restrict their-statements for most part until Board had preliminary discussion of draft, then he would open meeting for comments from floor. H. Slater had discussed issue with some members of Town Board. Wanted clarification of alternative site North of TC3 being impossible because of sewer district restrictions & failure to ever obtaining, within reasonable amount of time, a new sewer district. Questioned this totally limiting going in that direction; Stated it may change his position to some degree. •GENERAL DISCUSSION of that not being an option if this was true. B. Lavine asked if any comments from floor on this. T. Corey said he wasn't speaking for mind of Town or Village, but at time of TC3 construction, special permission had been granted by Village when there was no sewer district existing in Village, to provide water & sewer to TC3 for their development. Certainly not unusual situation. Agreed at present time, Northern most boundary of sewer district is Northern line of TC3. Didn't see that as problem. R. Chase felt the draft proposal was leaving door open for that to be looked into & that Board obviously couldn't make decision as to whether Village would extend or not. R. Beck agreed. Didn't feel Board could relocate project at all, could simply make specific recommendation regarding present proposal. R. Chase commended Barbara on fantastic job covering all issues mentioned in previous long sessions for draft. B. Lavine opened meeting to audience. T. Corey requested proposed draft be read. After reading draft, B. Lavine asked for .comments. Residents all agreed draft was well written. Asked for copies to be given after meeting. B. Lavine questioned if Board should limit themselves to only moving building 6001. After discussion, decided to .06.mend draft by adding "or more" to the 600" requirement. R. Chase made motion to accept draft with ammendment. 2nd by R.;Beck, VOTE ALL YES APP�ROV_EeD B. Lavine adjourned meeting at 8:45 PM-'. Secrete -'Iv` Iry