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Planning Board November 17th, 1983
Town of Dryden
• The Planning Board met on November 17th at 7:30 PM. Members present were
Chairwoman Barbara Caldwell, Buzz Lavine, Roger Lampila, Ed Dollaway, Rep.
from the Town Board, Charles Evans, and Zoning Officer Sibley Stewart.
Mr. and Mrs. Machukas of 230 West Dryden Rd.,,Freeville were present
to propose to the Planning Bd. a division of the parcel 31. -1 -5.2 at the
intersection of North Caswell Rd. and West Dryden Rd. It will come under
sub - division regulations. The division was outlined on maps presented to the
Pl. Bd. Chr. Caldwell said that an EAF (short form) will be required.
Roger Lampila had a concern about it being in close proximity to the Jand
fill that extensive testing by the Health Dept. be done.
A public hearing was scheduled for December 15th at 8:00 PM. A completed
EAF will be required at that time-and USGS map (contour map). This meeting
closed at 8 :00 PM.
8:00 PM
Members present for the joint planning meeting were Town Board Supervisor
Clint Cotterill, Mert Webb, and Charles Evans,Planning Board; Chairwoman Bar-
bara Caldwell, Roger Lampila, Ed Dollaway, and Buzz Lavine, Zoning Board;
Chairman Bob Keech, Don Rose, Peter Brellochs, Charles Hatfield, and Zoning
Officer Sibley Stewart.
Clint Cotterill began by saying a concern everyone would be hearing about
is the State Uniform Fire and Building Code and the enforcement of it. He
showed written material from the State on the code requirements and it's en-
forcement. Right now everything is in the State's hands as other municipal-
ities have opted out. If, according to the material, the state carries out
the adoption of the code, you would have to go to.-Syracuse to get a permit
and all your actions would be handled through there. C. Cotterill sent a
letter to the State saying he didn't feel it was possible or practicle to en-
force it that way. Additional cost to a project would be $1,000 up. Everyone
would be affected by it. Any change made in construction would mean a trip
to Syracuse.
His second concern is where the Town and this group ought to be going on
zoning. The recent Rademacher case proves that we are delingquent in not
analizing the zoning ordinances before we got into this position.
Two schools of thought came out of this meeting on the second concern.
Mr. Cotterill feels that we are obligated by duty to make some tough decisions
and do it fairly quick.so that if people are interested they will know where
we will allow them to do it. Put large businesses where they will not meet
opposition and be realistic that if a business goes up near a good size hous-
ing development, there is__going to be opposition.
C. Evans commented that if some areas were zoned commercial and settle
it so that it's taken out of the political realm now so;:that if a business
applies, thet wouldn't have to go through this.
C. Cotterill's personal opinion is to pick two or three areas and make
them large enough so that businesses can expand.
B. Caldwell asked if an area is set for commercial would you also restrict
housing in the area. Her concern was that a very vocal group in a sub - division
arises. She stated that it gets sticky when you put severe restrictions on
an area.
• Route 13 was discussed and it was decided it probably would never move
too far from where it is presently. B. Lavine said maybe we ought to look
at what to do about the existing Rt. 13 and housing and this ties in closely
with the idea in terms of multiple housing in the Town. It's possible multi.
housing will be looked at along 13 which shows the relationship between com-
mercial, industrial, and housing concerns.. All of these issues ought to be
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put together and going over all of the existing zones and take note of the
new realities.
C. Cotterill again expressed the immediate concern.and move forward on
it fairly fast and reanalize what we want to do in lines of business and then
in a separate proposal reanalize zones and business zones and whether you want
changes. He feels it would be wrong to group the two together and'get into
that kind of debate, business and residential zones.
Be Lavine strongly opposed the idea of a quick fix as the areas are too
closely related. A more comprehensive approach would solve a lot of problems
that would arise later.
C. Cotterill said his only objection is time. He doesn't want to wait
3, 4, or 5 months for direction as other businesses might be looking at
Dryden in the next month.
Roger Lampila,�a member of the Dryden Development Committee, stated the
concern and necessity for a place for the Daryl Rademachers and not to sit
back and wait for six months. The committee is working to get business in the
Dryden area and has gained cooperation from the school board in giving tax
breaks.
Spot.zoning was discussed and putting a more restrictive zone on a very
small area, out of sequence with the rest of the.zone and area, and problems
arise.
D. Rose brought up the dog kennel in :his neighborhood and asked what
could be done about it. Because it is an allowed pre- existing use, not
much can be done about the existing problem.
Be Caldwell expressed the close tie between multiple housing and trying
to write for co -ops and condominiums.
It was agreed by all that the zoning has to be reviewed and that special
meetings will need to be called in order to expediate and not do the job
in a hap- hazard way.
Be Lavine asked where would be a good location in the town for businesses.
Suggestions made were: from Willow Glen Cemetary to Pine Woods would be a
problem on the south side of 13. From Pine Woods down to the other side of
NYSEG, a possible area. From 366 west to the creek. North edge of the
Village of Dryden to Walt Stairs. Areas in the sewer district and out of
the political spectrum. An area close to Ithaca North of the airport.
The best sight is the north side of the Village.
Be Lavine asked what could be done to get some of the problems in some
areas overcome.
Be Keech. asked where do we go from here after all of this discussion.
Be Caldwell- It looks as if we have the mechanics all spelled out.
Now we have to look at. it in terms of physical territory and review our al-
lowed uses. Any imput now would be appreciated before we get to a public
hearing.
Be Lavine expressed confussion as to whether we want a more restrictive
zone, say an RA zone, as we delve into rezoning. Do we want to take some
of the less restrictive zones out or make them somewhat more restrictive, or
do we want as well take some of our most restrictive zones and say that's
not restrictive enough for some uses and make an RA zone. Something more
restrictive than our RB?
M. Webb pointed out that construction is going to your more restrictive
zones and feels there would not be opposition if you wanted to make an area
more restrictive.
Be Caldwell asked about multiple housing and where do you want it.
Be Lavine asked if we should take a positive outlook on, in terms of
going to a more restrictive zone as well as taking some of the existing
uses out of RB and putting them into RC- go both directions at the same
time? The members present recommeded that this be looked at.
R. Lampila wanted to know if the Development Committee could tell people
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interested in looking at Dryden for a place to put businesses that they recog-
nize.there is a problem and that it is being worked on and decisions made.
C. Evans said to tell them the problem will be solved and as expediently
as possible.
B. Lavine commented after a discussion on how t
as not to lose the.Daryl Rademachers, that it sounds
talking about is taking the places that are allowing
now and that are obviously going to be controversial
position for both sides, and take them off the list.
that would work.
R. Lampila said the county study identified the
place in the Town of Dryden.for businesses,
speed things up
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corridor along 38 as the
The next meeting scheduled to proceed with these issues is planned for
December 8th, 2983 at 8:00 PM.
The meeting adjourned at 10:30 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Jane Koelsch
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