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April 11, 1966
MEMO TO: Planning Boardf 1114111embers
Enclosed are the minutes to last month's meeting. Also the
press release for the public meeting on the SE road name changes
proposed.. Call me immediately if you see any error or addition.
See you all on April 21. Fred. Lengemann will have a. report on
a meeting he attended. Happ Sadd may be there with his major
subdivision, which shouldn't take too long. Then we launch
into the great SW section and our real challenge. Please be
thinking of that area and recommendations you may have. I
don't know if it will be possible to have our final public
meeting on that area in one month, but if we can it would be good..
One additional•problem w e have ignored is the names of some of
our State roads; that situation, at least, may take one more
meeting. We are making ground, however, and hopefully by this
summer Mr. Denman will be able to have all the cards together
and in early fall we'll have the blitz campaign of informing
everyone, getting some signs up ( ? -), and having a new town
map produced.
I hate to even think of this, but please be thinking of possible
replacements for Fred and Ben; they'll be leaving us this summer
for at least a full yea.r - =46111 hope no more.
Hope you all had a nice Easter.
See you next Thursday'.
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PS. I've asked Mr. Denman to come again next Thursday.
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TOW( OF DRYDE�!
0RYDENq NEW YORK
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April 11, 1966
FOR RELEASE AT ANY TIME
IN THE HEART OF FINGER LAKES REGION
TOWN OF DRYDEN HOLDS THIRD MEETING FOR ROAD NAI1F CHANGES
The Town of Dryden Planning Board has called a public meeting
for Thursday, April 21, to determine ±XIS public acceptance of proposed
road name changes in the southeast section of the town. The meeting
is scheduled to take place in the Dryden Town Hall at 8 p.m.
The Planning Board has been working for some time on a dual pro-
gram of renumbering houses and renaming certain roads where necessary
• to clear up vague and often confusing situations existing within the
town. A major objective of these efforts has been.to provide a consis-
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gent town map for the benefit of fire companies and other emergency services.
The road name changes or clarifications proposed are within the
southeast section of the,town, bounded on the north by Dryden village
and on.the west by the Irish Settlement Road. The Lake Road will start
at the end of Lake Street in the village of Dryden, run south then east
around Dryden Lake to the Cortland county line, superseding that portion
of road now known as East Lake Road.; Nest Lake Road. will run from the
Lake Road south to Route 38; McClintock Road will start from the end of
La.ke.Street'in the village of Dryden and run to the Cortland county line,
superseding what is, now called East..Lake Street; Southworth Road will
run from the McClintock Road in the village of Dryden south to the Lake
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Road ; Keith Lane will run from Route 38 to the Lake Road; the Harford
:. • Road will continue from the Town of Caroline through to Route 38, super-
sexing the Speed Road; Ferguson Roa.d.will run from South Street in the
trillla.P e -olf ;Dryd -en to the-Yellow Barn Road, elimina.tina the need for
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Other roads in this section of the town not specifically mentioned
here will remain the same. After the public meeting the recommendations
of the Planning Board will be presented to the Dryden Town Board for
their approval.
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Thank you, If you have any questions, please feel free
to call me at either number listed below:
Peter A. Curtiss, Chairman
Town of Dryden Planning Board
12 Upper Creek Road
Etna, New York 347 -4282 or 275-5014
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TO "nY PL.g11NING BOARD, TOWN OF DRYDEN NETY YORE APRIL 21
-- - - -.� -- 1 or 1966
-i The Planning Board for the Town of Dryden met April 21, 1966 in
the Town Hall -at 8:00 with members, Curtiss, Lenpemann, Paterson,
Hardesty, Hanford, and Reed in attendance. Afro Denman, Etamons Ogden,
Art C1ar1 Lee and Irene Alexander, and James Belasco were also present.
The main purpose of tonight's meeting was to determine publ is
acceptance of certain proposed road name changes in the southeast
section of the town.
Chairman Curtiss introduced Lee and Irene Alexander to the group.
The Alexanders stated that they had read the news release on road name
changes and were surprised to learn that the road they reside on was,
and currently is, known as 12"cClintock Road. The road in question runs
from the edge of the Village of Dryden out toward Virgil. The Alexanders
supposed they lived on Lake Street Extension. They asked:
1 Why McClintock Road was so named.
72 If a road name change is in order, would it be better to
select a name that would be recognized or to choose a name
other than some family name.
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P'here
did
the
name of
Lake
St.
Ext.
originate.
a road
name
change.
s
abandoned.
Emmons
Ogden
stated
it
only
required
one
person
to object
to an abandonment.
Emmons
•many
Otherwise,
Ogden stated
the
that
the name,
keep
McClintock
Road, dated back for
years.
Chairman
TO "nY PL.g11NING BOARD, TOWN OF DRYDEN NETY YORE APRIL 21
-- - - -.� -- 1 or 1966
-i The Planning Board for the Town of Dryden met April 21, 1966 in
the Town Hall -at 8:00 with members, Curtiss, Lenpemann, Paterson,
Hardesty, Hanford, and Reed in attendance. Afro Denman, Etamons Ogden,
Art C1ar1 Lee and Irene Alexander, and James Belasco were also present.
The main purpose of tonight's meeting was to determine publ is
acceptance of certain proposed road name changes in the southeast
section of the town.
Chairman Curtiss introduced Lee and Irene Alexander to the group.
The Alexanders stated that they had read the news release on road name
changes and were surprised to learn that the road they reside on was,
and currently is, known as 12"cClintock Road. The road in question runs
from the edge of the Village of Dryden out toward Virgil. The Alexanders
supposed they lived on Lake Street Extension. They asked:
1 Why McClintock Road was so named.
72 If a road name change is in order, would it be better to
select a name that would be recognized or to choose a name
other than some family name.
1F'3
P'here
did
the
name of
Lake
St.
Ext.
originate.
a road
name
change.
abandoned.
Emmons
Ogden
stated
it
only
required
one
person
to object
to an abandonment.
Emmons
•many
Otherwise,
Ogden stated
the
that
the name,
keep
McClintock
Road, dated back for
years.
Chairman
.Curtiss
explained
that
ersonal names., , for obvious
reasons,
do
present
a
problem.
George
Hanford
thought Lake St. Ext.
was arrived
at when
Gibby made
his
survey.
There
were no other
questions
or objections
to the road
A
Road,
This r
Alexan
change
fter ca
should
ecommen
ders ad
do
refu
rema
dati
vise
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on wi
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beration, the board ,felt that the name, Mc Cl intock
same, as recommended by the Planning Board. _
1 be presented to the iri-34Cto•e B unZes-s-f-F`e- -
thin a week or so that they wish to have the name
A .
The Alexanders advised the Planning Board that there was a great
deal of confusion between Lake Street and Lake Road, also of the inade-
quacy of the bridge near them. The Planning Board felt this was an
immediate concern of the Village rather than the Town and suggested to
the Alexanders that they approach the Village and see if they would be
willing to put up a road name sign. vme 1002U -- c�d��� �- Z✓.l *�/lrY+�
It was determined
that
there is
no
legal
requirement to change
deeds whenever
there is
a road
name
change.
Chairman
Curtiss
agreed
to call
Dick
Case
concerning
the
Stafford
.Road being
abandoned.
Emmons
Ogden
stated
it
only
required
one
person
to object
to an abandonment.
Otherwise,
the
town
has to
keep
a road
open, minimum
requirements.
There
were no other
questions
or objections
to the road
name
changes
as
proposed.
The Planning
Board
expressed
appreciation
to the
.Alexanders
for attending
tonight's
meeting.
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Jim Belasco was introduced to the Board
acre tract on the top of Snyder Hill. He ha
ing and wasn't ,fully aware o.f our Subdivisio
so far has been proper and adequate. He now
,formal subdivision procedure to have his tra
the original map, showing property owned b
Jim
s been
n Regu
wishe
ct app
y Sid
owns about a 32
doing some develop -
Zations. Everything
s to go through the
roved. Jim presented
iYarner. He stated:
F'1 One house is completed
#2 One house is just starting
#'3 A 50' road is being built with Dick Case's recommendations;
I said road to be deeded to the Town:
I 34 Each lot has 1 -314 acres.
#5 Health Dept. has given approval on the house now built and
a verbal approval on the one now under construction*
�6 At least 3 or 4 homes will be completed this summer, of which
'a 2 will be occupied by August 1.
W7 He will ,furnish a road name soon.
PLEASE NOTE- -Due to the size of the lots, it is not necessary to
'.i have the Health Dept. approval on the entire subdivision.
The Board felt that Mr. Belasco had complied very well with the
Oregulations and that he should be able to come up with a .Final plat
together with Health Dept. approval for a public hearing without any
difficulty. Jim assured the Board that ,four would be made before
the Hay m e e t i n g. c �•j"
The .following petition, properly signed, was read by Ginna Hardesty:
"To- -The Caroline Town Board:
Fe, the undersigned, residents and property owners along that
part o.f the road at present named Ringwood Road in the Town of Caroline,
between Route 79 (The Slaterville Road ) and the Dryden Town Line,
petition the Caroline Town Board to re -name our road Ellis Hollow South
.. Road.
r i7e respectfully call your attention to the following:
#,1 The Town Board o.f Dryden (action taken 815157 ) named that
portion o.f the road lying in the Town o,f Dryden the Ellis
Hollow South Road.
"2 The U. S. post office dept. designates the entire road the
Ellis Hollow South Road and requires us to use this mailing
address.
#3 It doesn't make sense for a road only 2:� miles
long, to change-at the town line.
W4 There is in the Town o.f Dryden a road which has for over 100
Years been calldd Ringwood Road. The numbering on this road
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Jim Belasco was introduced to the Board
acre tract on the top of Snyder Hill. He ha
ing and wasn't ,fully aware o.f our Subdivisio
so far has been proper and adequate. He now
,formal subdivision procedure to have his tra
the original map, showing property owned b
Jim
s been
n Regu
wishe
ct app
y Sid
owns about a 32
doing some develop -
Zations. Everything
s to go through the
roved. Jim presented
iYarner. He stated:
F'1 One house is completed
#2 One house is just starting
#'3 A 50' road is being built with Dick Case's recommendations;
I said road to be deeded to the Town:
I 34 Each lot has 1 -314 acres.
#5 Health Dept. has given approval on the house now built and
a verbal approval on the one now under construction*
�6 At least 3 or 4 homes will be completed this summer, of which
'a 2 will be occupied by August 1.
W7 He will ,furnish a road name soon.
PLEASE NOTE- -Due to the size of the lots, it is not necessary to
'.i have the Health Dept. approval on the entire subdivision.
The Board felt that Mr. Belasco had complied very well with the
Oregulations and that he should be able to come up with a .Final plat
together with Health Dept. approval for a public hearing without any
difficulty. Jim assured the Board that ,four would be made before
the Hay m e e t i n g. c �•j"
The .following petition, properly signed, was read by Ginna Hardesty:
"To- -The Caroline Town Board:
Fe, the undersigned, residents and property owners along that
part o.f the road at present named Ringwood Road in the Town of Caroline,
between Route 79 (The Slaterville Road ) and the Dryden Town Line,
petition the Caroline Town Board to re -name our road Ellis Hollow South
.. Road.
r i7e respectfully call your attention to the following:
#,1 The Town Board o.f Dryden (action taken 815157 ) named that
portion o.f the road lying in the Town o,f Dryden the Ellis
Hollow South Road.
"2 The U. S. post office dept. designates the entire road the
Ellis Hollow South Road and requires us to use this mailing
address.
#3 It doesn't make sense for a road only 2:� miles
long, to change-at the town line.
W4 There is in the Town o.f Dryden a road which has for over 100
Years been calldd Ringwood Road. The numbering on this road
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is in the opposite direction from that on our road. It is
j extremely confusing to people trying to locate places on
Ringwood Road to ,find that there are two within so short a
distance of each other. It is also annoying to residents
on our road so ,frequently to have to direct people to the
other road.
1 i In view of these ,facts, we respectfully petition you to change
the name o,f the road now called Ringwood in the Town of Caroline to
j_ Ellis Hollow South Road.''
dated- -April 19, 1966
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Denman pointed out that Caroline is numbered, and if the
road name is changed then the numbers of the homes might also be
changed. However, the Planning Board wishes to cooperate.
Art Clark stated that the name of the Old Peruville Road is going
to be changed. The Town of Groton feels that Route 38 should remain
ROUTE 38 instead of Freeville- Groton Road. The Planning Board wishes,
as ,far as possible, to cooperate with the Town of Groton but cap see
no alternative. The Planning Board requested .Emmons Ogden to inform
the Town Board that our original recommendation on the name of Groton'
Road for .Route 38, from Freeville to the Peruville Road, be approved
as originally recommended..
Alton Reed - reported that Ringwood Road on over the hill has been
approved for the Urban Renewal Plan.
Discussion was held on road name change on the end of Ift. Pleasant
Road and Mineah Road. Alton Reed will contact those residents having
equal interest in this specific area. The Planning Board ,felt that 46,
1,ft. Pleasant Road should bear right down to ion
arose as to naming private roads on the map. Emmons Ogden is to check
with the Town Board.
George Hanford had a report compiled by the Tompkins County Re-
source Development Committee. The Booklet, Regional Resource Develop-
ment, is designed to be used by citizens of Tompkins County individually
and /or collectively to examine and hopefully to better understand some
o,f the ,factors that spell CHANGE for their community. It is designed
and intended to be on1 y a starting .point ,from which additional avenues
of study can be explored. The nest meeting of this Committee is
scheduled ,for a�ay 2. Fred Lenraemenn has .been requested to attend and
report*
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Alton Reed passed out the booklets on DECISIOATS covering: A
Study. For Leaders; The Changing .Environment for Living, Work & Play;
Human Resource Development; and Managing Community Growth. P(embers
were asked to study these before the next regular meeting.
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Chairman Curtiss announced that Alton Reed has been officially
appointed our agricultural representative as of April 12, 1966. This
I s for a ,five year period.
Emmons Ogden stated he had a long talk with Mrs. Fletcher at Tom
Todd.'s request. Nothing definite could be arrived .at. He ,further
stated that the Town Board is concerned about the by -laws pertaining
to appointments o.f planning board members, especially in the event of
a member being away for a year. Does this person get re- instated
Also, who has charge of a meeting when the chairman is absent: It
'':' was determined that no member can be removed from the Planning Board
without a public hearing. Further consideration will be given concerning
IL a set of by -laws.
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S. Reuben Sha p ley submitted a sketch plan for a minor subdivision.
A Health Dept. approved is needed. Ginna will return the sketch plan
to Mr. Shapley.
It is hoped that the road name changes will be completed at the
next meeting, May 19, 1966.
Ifeeting adjourned at 11:30.
Respectfully submitted,
Marion Steger, Sec. 1 5 /0C
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Alton Reed passed out the booklets on DECISIOATS covering: A
Study. For Leaders; The Changing .Environment for Living, Work & Play;
Human Resource Development; and Managing Community Growth. P(embers
were asked to study these before the next regular meeting.
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Chairman Curtiss announced that Alton Reed has been officially
appointed our agricultural representative as of April 12, 1966. This
I s for a ,five year period.
Emmons Ogden stated he had a long talk with Mrs. Fletcher at Tom
Todd.'s request. Nothing definite could be arrived .at. He ,further
stated that the Town Board is concerned about the by -laws pertaining
to appointments o.f planning board members, especially in the event of
a member being away for a year. Does this person get re- instated
Also, who has charge of a meeting when the chairman is absent: It
'':' was determined that no member can be removed from the Planning Board
without a public hearing. Further consideration will be given concerning
IL a set of by -laws.
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S. Reuben Sha p ley submitted a sketch plan for a minor subdivision.
A Health Dept. approved is needed. Ginna will return the sketch plan
to Mr. Shapley.
It is hoped that the road name changes will be completed at the
next meeting, May 19, 1966.
Ifeeting adjourned at 11:30.
Respectfully submitted,
Marion Steger, Sec. 1 5 /0C
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May 9, 1966
Mr. Thomas Todd,
Town of Dryden
Town Hall
Dryden, New York
Dear Tom
Supervisor
At our regular meeting held. April 21, 1966, the Planning Board
was able to confirm its earlier recommended. list of road name changes
for the southeast section of town. Only two people attended our
public meeting, and we were able to expla.ln our thinking to them
satisfactorily so that our recommendations as proposed were accep-
table.
Our recommendations are as follows: The�Lak�e Road will start
at the end of Lake Street in the village of Dyyd.en, run south then
east around Dryden Lake to the Cortland County line, superseding
that portion of road. now known as East Lake Road; West Lake Road
will run from the Lake Road south to Route 38; WcClintock Road will
start from the end. of Lake Street in the village of Dryden and run
to the Virgil Road, superseding what is now
called East Lake Street; the Dryden Virgil Road. will be called. just
the Virgil Road.; Southworth Road will run from the McClintock Road
in the village of Dryden south to the Lake Road; Keith Lane will
run from Route 38 to the Lake Road.; the Harford Road will continue
from the Town of Caroline through to Route 38, superseding the
Speed Road; Ferguson Road will run from South Street in the village
of Dryden to the Yellow Barn Road, eliminating; the need. for Ferguson
Road Extension, kkxk
The
above recommendations
concerning the
village of
Dryden
have been
cleared
with
them. Please send a
copy of this
letter
with your
notice
of
Town acceptance to village
officials
so they
will know
action
has
been taken.
Dick Case recommended. that we eli
revised) Catchbasin Road (which we "el
Stafford Road, and Fulkerson Road (whi
about). These are Town roads but have
usually impassable by car, and it seem
fact, I would recommend. that the Town
of abandoning them - -something which mo
which is completely agreeable to Dick
minate from t
iminated" in
ch we didn't
not been mai
s foolish to
look into the
s (?) owners
Case.
he map (when
our NE proposal),
know what to do
ntained, are
show them. In
legal aspects
might like and
The hearing for the S74' roads will be May 19. We're actually
nearing an end. Call if you have any questions.
Sin rely ,
Peter A. Curtiss, Chairman
Town of Dryden. Planning Board.