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APPBALS NOS. 729, 731, 7339 733
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C. M AY VAN I#AM9 Building Comisslomorg Reaxetory
TOR CUM Shall we courts to order. This is a public meeting of the
Board of Zoning Appals of the City of Itbasa. The mm6or
present besides syrsolf are Colonel Comtooko Mr. twoulcki,
Mr. Pfoan, Mr. Ilmood and Mr. Van moor, Building commis-
*loner. As you take the floor lto. s ok, please gime your
full nates And address to the stenographer.
The first case tonight is lass Ne. 729, the Appeal of Ruth
S. Millar, sof 436 Borth (Umove street, Ithace, Now York,
for a var ls"o to amoste sae additional living unit at
436 North wenn $tvoot, and exception required under pro-
vision of the Zoning Ardinsn"s !tet#an�7, Colaa 3,7 and
8 to an R-3 *sue. Mrs. -1!bumf
RM S. MILLXIs 436 North Cerro Street. I would like to put an aprurtmot
upstairs in my wise-mono* house, five of w i ah ase doNa-
stairs and I would like to have my apartment. sal a fount-
R roses apartment upstairs. I as ON the only person living
in the house. I an a widow and would lila very mah to
hire an ioosme from the house and nod it. Tbere are to
be no outside changes.
M. RALKNIs doing north, just where is your heesel
A. The third from Casoadiila on the loft going north.
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CTLs_ Ara there any questions# geatlosri?
Nene.
TNT CRAM Thank you. Ws. W ller.
Is they* any No appearing hews in favor of this appesl?
Nose.
t'!9 CAAIR s Is there say one hero vM to opposed to this appeal?
Nona. !
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TRUCHAIRt The next ease is No. 7310 the Appeal of w. tugene Dennis
and George W. Glover, 129 Codding,tocn Said, for special
pevatt under provision of section 9 of tbr, Zoaiag Ordinance,
Apartment Developetent District in an R-3 wane,
Mr. Dennia, are you to speak?
W. RMIN D IS: 1073 Taughannock Boulevard. I have plans with me.
Tait CRAM Is that the plan for the new one?
A. Yes. (Shows plans to Board)
We are proposing to build another additional 38 apartments
on Hudson Floe*. These are the existing "as here and
these aro the ones proposed to build. This will take down
the old ice house and put a parking area have and there
will be more parking spaces than are really noeded for the
whole pmjeet. This will tie in with the second one and
we will have the pool between and by both sides. It will
be stellar construction. We will have a groan area here
for picnic tables and to forth. This is now owned by
Harold Fish, (Shows property he now owns) This will all
be one project.
M. VAN MART 3 One whole ADD preposition. the original plan took in Daly
part of this; there was some parking paropo*ad.
HR. Damis: They will all be efficiency apartments and the youngsters
will be fews and I already have a *Wlag Xist for then.
This is already 100% rented.
TNR CRAM Are any of you people in dna audience interested in seeing
the plans for Hudson Pisa*?
Are there any questions of Mr. Domis, gentlemen?
None
Is there any one hese appearing in favor of this appeal?
RAN$ AIRSDOSF: We have no objection to Hudson Plsoe. I own the property
at 604 Winston Court.
THK CHAIR: Is these any one also in favor?
None.
Any one appearing in oppositioa7
ALAN BMDMAN: 115 Hudson Place. I would like to ask who will guarantee
that the apartment occupants will not perk in faront$ es-
pecially in front of the Post Office bone.
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M. VAN MARTSRs They could awake the request that some parking rregulations,
could be studied to accomplish what you want to accoopltsb.
This would not be an action of this Board. You or** how-
wort entitled to ask. The regulation would be formulated
by the Department of Public Works t acted upon by the Council
and enforced by the police. This would prevent the kind of
thing happenime as is an Coddington Road now whew* It is
posted "No all night parking'". You may make the sparest,
TOSIPH CAPALt1I1C,O; 132 Coddington Road. I are not opoosed not in favor as yet.
Isn't there some way they could guarantee the conscruationf �
NR. VAN NUTUt The building will be built to comply vithtbe Neu Yogic State
Building Construction Cade. There have been indicated.cer-
tain improvements in the designs Eine the original was
completed. Ther* aro scow limitations in this, dictated
by the cost of construction. I would sunset hat they o*ul
not do othexwiee in order to keep them filled.
MR;. CAPAWN Ot Also will this be exactly like the plans?
MR. VAN MARTERi I understand that the exterior will be very alae*. The plus
will be submitted to us and it is our responsibility, the
building %partment, to sew that these are complied with.
Ti9 Cwt (Ronde Ne* m4 ft from page 2 of Memorandum of Plamuning Board)
MR. VAN MARTZRt There is also shown a proposed project office location, and
this would be less than 1000 squame fest. Aca{oomrdtag to the
square footage be has this could be permitted but the dost
and appearance would have to go through the Building Commis
stoner. something less than 1000 square feet would be par-
witted but he would have to go through a hearing again. to
this a Ons bedroom apartment. bar. Demist
MR. DOMIS t dust a house with a couple of beiroome t to have *arae one
living there to take care of the place, and down below for
the tractor and, or the lawn movers pull car.
NR. 'VAN NARTBRt This to not part of this proposal at this tin.
DOCTOR hAMINII .Toms Capalongot you asked what as urance you have that the
buildin3 will be built according to specifications. Do you
understood what a certificate of occupancy is?
A. No.
DOCTOR BALDIVIt Before he could rant he would have to obtain a certificate)
of occupancy.
MR. SlID Ot Wali1, my daughter has an apartment and it didalpt haver
screws and they had to buy an air aoaditioner. Is there
any requirement in the building *ode about that?
MR. VAN NARTSR t In season, right.
MR. IB$ They were screened but no screeeu on the doors.
MR. VAR MARTSRt A Certificate of Occupancy has to do with the appramml by
the Building Department for requirements of fire safety,
egress, and to forth, enter the State Building Construction
Cods. The last tine around when other parking spaces were
required and not developed I did not realiss this. In the
future this will be hold up before there will be any
k occupancy.
MARY LOU CAPAWNODs 136 Coddington )toad. Will tbers be a proposed office
and living quarters? Wouldn•t that necessitate extra
traffic during the day in and out? Would there be any wry
to alleviate this? There would be, would have to be tim
in and out all day long plus the apartment users.
MR. DIMS: All it is is an apartment for the care tabor; there would
be no more trucks than come in now. There are always
delivery trucks to the tenants. There are trunk* down
there now and they will go in and out until that building
to torn down but when the building to torn down there will
be none.
GBORM AZhiWORRt 137 Coddington Road. My property abuts on the wart and of
Jthe naw development. Is there any assurance, that there
won't be any equipment stored there as there is at present
MR. DEMISI There is no aquipnent needed. I only need a tractor and
• a lawn mover.
M. ALILWDRRt It is a veritable lush heap now, with broken downs foe bona ,
old dare with no licenses on.
MR. VAN MARTUs This is a sowing problem. I mould suggest thlat this shoal
remarve most of this.
Thi CHAD : Is this eeluipment that belongs to you?
MR. DENNISt Part is wain and part Is my san0 s. As soon on he is out
nothing could be left there.
TO CHURL Ladlos and goatleasus when your case to through you acre
fro* to leve. we will hear all the cases and than ewevy
one is excused and we go into sxsoutivo aeaaien. Any 0"
who wishes to leave Is free to.
The nest came is No. 732, the Appeal of Kim Rollins. Alb
West Senoea Street, Ithaca, Now York, for a varienco for
use at the mass for an offloo, and exception for parking
under provisions of Zoning Ordinance Section 79 Colum I
and 5, In an R-3 sone.
Who is have to appear for this appeal?
JOW VAMC Forest City 'Realty. I so here representing as agent for
Nina Rollins, adjacent to me. I have an office at 424 West
Seneca Street. Here to a photograph of ay office and the
adjacent property. Also I have some, small pictures Indica-
ting the driveway. (Show to board)
Mrs. Rollins, who has owned the ,property for approximately
ton yearso cam to me two years age and wasted to sell -
I had no Iwtorost in buying. Slue now feel* that the Income
is not sufficient to continue there. She has lard a rade
offer to pucchasev the loan to be apparowed by the 'frust
Gompanyr to sell to Natisnwide Insurance Company. and she
is interested in waking the deal at this time In order to
nova to another neighborhood who" these would be a more
sufficient income. At present I control the driveway betwown
the properties and I am giving thea a fright of way to get t
the bank lot. I ars at 424 and they at 416, fust next, and
we could get four or five cars behind 416.
TVK CHMt Off-streot parking would give one space per employee?
A. Right.
THN CHURt Five employees?
A. Not soars than two would be on the property at any ones time.
I haw granted thea perai ssi on it purchased, to haw a riSht
of way to the lot and they would have first option to pur-
ohs" nasi► property if I sell. �
1`U CHAIX: He is givingthen a aright of way for the driveway to the
book of this property and this would accommodate five or a
cars off the street.
MR. VASStt I have a double lot so in order for tbm to buy this
property I heave to grant a rigbt of May to get to theme
and there would be oar huge parking; lot.
TO CUTAt Am could that be made final for the tutu"I
Mit. VlkSM Because they have a first optics to purchase my building.
This is the only condition wAsr which their attorney would
lot these buy. They have the use as ImS as I am owner.
DOCTOR BALDIMIt They would have adverse privileges myhoa.
MUM 1 11111 1,
. ViASS11 That, Is true and I would be interested itt having an In-
surance company ,tear become it would be *oq*tible with
my busluess,
DOCTOR BALDINIt You are the sant for Mima Rollins?
A. Bight.
DOCTOR SAL1 IXts Now I usederstmad that you say Mationwid* is buy04 this
property. Is the loan approved?
A. Bight. I on the agent who sold the property to Mattemide
i but in eesesoo I au "presenting Nine Rollins. I have
interests both wears.
DOCTOR TIMI s Bas the building. been sold?
A. Yes, the pusreb ase offer is sigma and oceopted subject to
the variance, and her hardship to look of ineems.
THE CUM: Is there any me appeering in favor?
Mone.
Any one bore opposed?
Mone.
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A so. 733
Tax CRAMS The last Maass to No. 7339 the Appeal of Salvatore J. Piv ro
115 least Aram Strout, tthaeao Now Yorks for Construction
of an addition at 402Wast State Stroot0 Ubseao New
York* got ft oaosptiom of Using Otdissmice, under provision
Of Section 79 Columns So ll„ if in an s-f so",
Who to appearim4 Y
&'AVO PtMs I am Sal Pirre, oar of property at 404-402 West State
St greet* and I ryas up bare about a math ago as a proposed
new buildie& wMck was turned dowa, &red new I have cone
W with ma addittes that t would like to put up, tt > ea
almost all of the qualifications requested by the Using
Ordinance. I on making for ago a maptift to Colwyn $, Oft-
tions 70 It OW lt. I have tsum ous of tbo puking. I
WO a ePpy of a letter hero Sleepy to rte by 8106P#09 that
will allow as to use their parking 0 appromiaaately ton
Marr to front of their place at the time they cleat, mad
all I bArva to do is carry the liability Insurance. t
at four and they closet I belie vo, at five. The maty thi
that would be difficult would be Friday night. to the
sight year* we have mound that the bulk of my business is
around eleven ooclock, We fool that der to tete facet that
us om the perking for about eerrem oar oiSht cares and
rot one $"a* ter every eight oeats, than the parking aril'
be all right, I have had to cut this building dewa is si ,
length and vidthl I have out the back sed brought the
building over to my Gia building, We will blacktop that
side for the leading sone that to needed. By putting the
two tegotbar o we are having bi toot end I do not baro to
apply tear the 33 fest, That Iomvea parking for tea seats
and all t need it about **van. This mould scat forty le,
We figured 77% rt~&so and the Isr stater that it we eau
provide parking we will be aoll000d up to 73% aovaroga. St
we are nailing for the fS. As far as the front lot, t sura
not go back ton feet. I want to put up the some type of
building.
TRK CNSTSt You have no plot plan?
M. FtROD's All I bsve is just what the inside would look lilac, Son
Is plan we had draw up.
(shows to Iwoard)
TUB CRAM Where would the parking be?
Mt. FIRmt At llishsp►s.
Culls may, is 0 loot sufficient for a driveway?
MR. VAN WHAM s Yes,
in A094W This to gown being treated as ose lot* Will the dreg stone
stay there?
MR. pmt Yes, and the apartmeests will stay theme.,
mt. YAN MI►t' ns The parking is for the satire strractur%, the de tiftmay
to an existing ono. tt are call theme a total of eight,
the total det latency for the drug stase sad the three
living; units would be fowgr, plus the rrequfrr mmat for revs
parking spar** for 200 feet of retail spa**.
TU CRURt a theme Any questions of MC. Pfarrro, geaat esrsa?
Nie.
Hid you got s copy of the a emesrrt►hmo Mr. Zi vt
W. ?two Yes. The only thing 1 mored is the 060438Md N was, the
bourse and as t said, we do not open datys, We span at
4100 P,H. We have toured, In the eight years l have been
herr*, that we won't be needles spec" until around eleven
at night, t eight Nat an earlier rush aft a Sunday.
COL. COOMM What time der you close?
A. Around +rat *,,clock.
TWX COUt You might bre interested is booting the Planning Sosred4s
carMat+nts.
is theme way memos here is faverc of this appeal?
«SAS HARTS *art's Pkax may. we have boos there tarn tweetysitt years
and t would like to stay there, no vents to beep me so is
Planning as the other building.
TO Callas MW owe here who 3s opposed?
BUM 1tE9M Vast Stater Street. t an opposed to this again, ora t
was the last tiers, and in *rosy respects 1 do net rmeally
think the situation haus ohangad from what presented
baruforo* Not baawls& actual plaau, t think it to difficult
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tell exactly y vhat to ertpeet Without the exterior and floor
plane, to my opinion the parkiag is a rreol problem in the
immediate ovea. I figures, eansidortal the building Itself
with the existing three apa:rtmeats In it, and the business.
Ukiah is a endue ed, you mould ran around sixteen units Wbi i
you world treed parking torr. I have not seen the letter free
bishop's, but having observ" siobap's lot before the lost
mating mad also in the post week before this mooting, I
find that at night it is already quite tbavousbly parked.
The theatre is open at night and I belleve that lingo to
theme seine nlghrts, and the $tate Diner trees bisbop's wr-
lowly, Also, t teal it would be diLlterlt in a earry-out
business to toll your customer* to ger that for to Verb.
Further g I serums, if be has a loading sow there, that be
has to be" the ,curb cut, Ukiah would sliaeiaate r ere
parking space, so that would have to &IV* his logo porrking
as a pear a sat thing. This is also stili oened rosidentia ,.
I know you have the note* from vhat we pointed out last time.
You are busy, but vhy den## you check the parrkle
night-4 It is Waite tight. ;
THS CMtR: is theme any arts else who Is opposed?
Who. CAMP I so apposed to tete porkies, W comments arts essentially
the saws se *0 brevia'#.
SI'i• Jf►WSONr 436 West State Street. t know the porkies is full. I livo
there and t have usable getting out of my front doer acv
on an average veok day, at least two or thrres save ere in
the parking arrea, and lobes Own is a good melte at the
the oxo I <be" a heard time getting outs ,
MR. FISif3: I bow goes tbtrco eb a great amount of trouble to get thta
parking spot with bishtop f s. t mill carry the insurance
from the rima t use it. ?be" people vho are parking t
could Farris anywhere there *vo if I v«ere to busy a brildIn$
The theatres people could park these. We vrill add this foo
our customers, &rA those vino are using it *2846n locally,
There is no way I could keep than out. And vky err: Wt sq
customers, park Otte dt the Ott
Sun NVUs The placae axis already ocanpted MW c&S W* ba' ed
twice A tbo Sawa ties*
TIM C342Ks if that is alis our public hewing Is am adjoaaaad.
UMOTM SISSION • DOAW OT SONG APPUL9, CITY Or Imo& MMM 3, 14M6
AFMAW NOS. 129, 731, 731$, 733
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C. NOMY VU HARM, W ldift Cossrisolossv, fte"tary
MR. VAN *ARM goods letter of it1►raw 0. "Oemm to Dowd* co ins the
signing of ballots and also aosasrhing a violation of the
XORIDS Ordinance.
in CYMS Lot as to to Cass go. 729. Appsllaat wants as +r= ptloo
to pot an spartwat is her bm".
COL. CONVOCKs Move that the rotioh be grarstsd for the rorsom that the lot
sic Inas bow dotommimed and nothing mm be dme abort is-
area ins the spow a and with the inotrssom, of aw spo rt t
is this ataa at me tivag it will net a"&%* my in kwm
able dittianieioa is that areal oto#ss, saasr
to occupy this property aloin, it bot* a aine—rom tie,
sM clam not afford to occupy this solely.
Jt X"Mms ecead.
VOTIM S Pte » 3 No 1
BMW SSION - MAID OF ZONING APP"fir CITY OF t'I`XACA, MCMU S9 It"
APPIU M. 7399 7319 7329 733
F 3 GBDMXY '1 9 Chairman
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C. XWAY VAN MI RIU9 Ruil+disM Comrissiaaer9 Seesotery
MR. VAN MARTNR heads letter of Norman D. f'roenan to Soard9 concerning tiro
w;gaioM of ballots MW alae oossewinR a violation of the
Zoning 4r4ineaaoe.
TIM CHAIR: Lst us So to Case No. 739. Appellant want* as exception
to put to Apartment In her house.
COL. CONSIMS VAm that the motion be &wanted for the nnersu that the lot
also has been determined and nothing most he doge sheat In-
ovessin8 the spa w b and with the Ineresas of owe eprgrtmeat
In this ansa at ane tim e9 It VIII not oweato any i -
able diff ioulties In that aw"I et�WMIS+e9 ` eeear.± ;, .,4-
to occupy this property alone# it being a also-rawer house,
am eras net afford to occupy this solely.
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ALU CRAIRs Ce-19, . 731•.
DR. MWINIt Move that the appeal be granted, subject to all the
roc nmeadatlfts of the Planning Board from the Mum rikedlm
of the Planning Bawd of December 19 1%6.
-int. MAMt Second.
VOTU40: Yes - 6 No - 0
CUM No. 732
id 's VUVRI Yove that the appeal be granted because the emor *an no
longer afford to mintain the property, and is having
d ffieulty in finding a market for tkke property to be
used aur a dllit►g.
01. BKOICKI: Second.
VDTINCt Yes 2 No 1
THR cU: Coss c ►
iib. i ii VxRt move that the appeal be granted.
CDs.. COWMcK: Second.
VM'M Yea • 1 No 3
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