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APRIL► 13, 1967
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THK =M s The row asoUng of t s DOW of:Zoaftg Aff*&U ot, tbs
City of MWzwr oft* to �. T1s 8 ! Is
�t to �f"MI pubbio boat" IA Ww SOMOV at`
Casa► kir. 731'. TUS Is US app. orf S VAWM Brbn
Bm*m1 Ams 108 But ftv*n S%V04% NOW "fir
for now irvas 60 at 103,&W Stpoet 20%-
219 3*%U *VW Vis, fft aw eft
P-10 parking provided as MW mmo IAO ad a�rrop oa vaftr
soaeas 71 ®sea 50 on � ,,
B-3 sacra« 16 1L Abbott 1hww%ovo
Rte„ MOSS, NOW TOV14 a b*LUIM. #� t�
oomw Of Sowuz aarw gaud Bast.Or*"
3 '7 to" &Uag at ftmft, ftvo* 40A . L
ft&Ah cww 3miesto no members. of its Baaxi,
Mr,, "MA4 and allft ate, lkt. .. Z
wast to ado tAs aptE t tbm' •s* sft oft ol
of tb* o + flv"v of vboor 4" per#,"d"a wi
srqi at Im" low aftlmft" fir, tir poi am
appea., Do yft, f* ", IVIS 3a prop* to
MR* MMM s T bo13wn so.
TO =Ms The 9"rd Is 44 basad by strloi "Ift of AftW log tba
o ink at 00 bsarift. Kir *w% 4"t, ate. prwt'i�t
Idowtll,7 thomi"W", dot wair sad i rw r d "d
tbatieint JA tho oaso, old Ve rogUat that all
ostod pastil PWU owd%w ,tb wri xvw to pwummt Tams.
M N9=l Lot Vo weeft4 ohm that nerfdes st bearmw s*dr
publ #bod psimmook to Uw. I ,wit ark tis Uls bo a
Of ON* a• this w+► ag.
TQC WAIRt So shall be*
RRo, VAN NARTXRs I hwo a s e e of to hw* UWI ad"Aisawat.
MR. MUM a I fool that Vwe std be an att*Wod af'1UmIt sbovin
that it aeaa pwalabode,
lbits 1 thr olO 10 wArW for SAMUft"WS
! „ Nolen I If it plsary►o 'W MMOTS of tlw ZOAM6 Heaasd at APPOSUf I
as Riabad advWs, attorW Eery tM abim Awwwal AgwArlr
the a ►ll"t tas evedag in Gas so# 7AS OPPMUS6 fiat
a dauuia]. of a porAt for eaastrafton of a bwLIAIM to be
aontatvaeW br D. No Abbott oto" GWPVMUQR# Tba
ISM we 0." toWng abet ter Wadag is Ow Ad br the
Mao* 0*4a NOOMI AGOW• I la d U110 at UU 1iw
briotly is "Uxw the IOM as sbown 4% ow pmlowar
marbrad Oftbit 10, Tb* area awri UMd in AM to 00 l
NO a" 14twoerW Jj4 the m►ttro bl to be for Vw .
Wbft XP* AbboU as befam US MOM SONW4 Agawaggi l
arL#Lnal plAn mad tlaa OnUo blrarlk* 1% 'b*
=*$M=b;:
w faith the fedo gal get t it
fAs to 4squuv onto^ vrspwtbo
em the pen�3p M of tha blosk. Asa im, Iwo
to osevvy to Abbott tbo ager l
Problawws woos and we asind Ux t9 alm to tft a lomw
par*4 of lend. Tbors to a broim d~ rad 1law In is
upper Un 4ov"WO mhioh ovkxtmw the pa!�ae 'ar us" able.
to to M'. ~t* U us dea� Yith the %sneak,
bw "rim" Minima paw �@1%- IWAlk VWO
tar bulor thoso of OVO the Noul uter dol".
IrAo tbis VP of doa+sUpwarnt. I be U#" Ow d
pa*drag aaPoe Per 3.00 egnaso floo,%
dswd at Is"t f0tv pwkif sit aro lel* Ab**t ves OU
to sill thew oa a ons, to me rMA94 So t#awQIr som W i A to
gi Sbo " psi idtah arr soOld Of;U � It tlr
cai r�d two t,us to tho *oMawn popov* 'atuAld in
p"k' 1% Veo nat tabs+' hr read $ fad► aider tw
tbo I � off ► v ba ti out book to 003"U ,.
a"Wod $hSt WV &"&r VOSU I$* &VfOW to
Wo bttw at t* %low we wamd this propsift %"t theme »
prob3AW vLU rearp A to th* &"Vs CJrtliaaat t, I tasted 10 1
to pant 04 thsb it IS RV itiat that tas #10 e0% 40i
#or a *bango 0 we for this blo*s If tae frena asW* U
oltaw fray UWW tae" f* In"""s two
ba lied rflh flay+' bwdm of pa!WIM uWas ba hip aaod
p al tlt " . AU tN ara "Aft for to a 'Olumes
Of 4"a.. ? r a an atm p"blox we hwo and sU we kwo
to slow is pftsu 1 d tf Ytirs,
MRS h'umt This also ids ow showing our preb3mu is thy► self
probl w. If# for int, yes btr a ptoee of lsw4
you now a rrari WOO you am not than go to Via Zoning Deard
and fty ha>rdshif„ but f1roan the vewmamb I bwo foamd„ the
parobles of tbs self aretted haardship dome not present itse
rbsn ow is asldag MAY for a Shoup of area. W6,440, To-
Vdred to pro rld+r parking sp"ss for 30 one - that lot,
this is based on 'the zeal" Winanso. The WobmU
have demanded a vininum of 30. we eon give parking spaces
for 284 am wh&A has been designed by tba F a *wka
Deparrtmoutp I geese. There is air gasstip iwokr►od
here and that is t ht 1963 the City Atm was "Ind to
tender an opWou as is r vbstbo a dswdwper 00%2d lulxle
rom
poutolds of his cram boaaardasiosp In aarwU" his >aW.-
am parking speSrs. At that tiae the Qlty Atm inIad
Wit that oaald be se. we in tlae Ttbsaaa VAm Mmoal
feel it world be far better to bwri"bsre the Board and
the Hoots on the table and set aa► —A mud seat ,xsepUsu.
Asatbwr reason Me on asking for onepttewrt is Via prrobin
Of the ldssw it wau to)* fee P*"# I "Aw am "WSW 1'
the Puzedsg BON1 l to d auto frets tlrr S xwg law VAS
Pins req'-A-�t the Um �i would pat as out of
bsriassa p a oldnaNr of sl Ay do" at loast# +and we sea not
dupe the a snatrswat on of the bullAing a w lawwr. T1w Or-
dinswo
ata now Witten and Paso" abesat 19&4 did not ft-
vision the prejw^ of the else aww pope of for woo1wrrth
taad,Uing. I believer their purpose warps to imw*
rdth parking for oustesereo wwis no4 1pd aara!►lolcrls
In Ithaft t►a► aeeoaassdate the prrrawoxtt repo Of UNZOMAng
That, to the reason t we bw* applied this ins for Vw
taaasrpti,eR.
I sogld Ulm to intrsdwo, Into widomo ambits 1
U. ambit 1 is a Utter Rete til Bast
pors1i19 , witton by Voten BOmw4 A#owWr aeMsing of dad s
ung toolgkA and at the bo tewat si,Vwd tW flair selsgM►taV
treasuw# Jews Retbsohilds oetweding to mod vrSift the
ins at the o4leax. Iftbit T it a sobLeo we soot
to Joan and ales sae"Olas the seaos ""So at
the bsttmo albit 3 is et nwbauraewadaas to the bui of
Uning Appeals flesat the City FlawaaMI* B04"t said spsalwwr fsar
i#erelf l�bit tis an at"�t wf Away �awrrasxe�rtb,
sarrrwUW of thein same" UmW# that sins w"ad weal
of do hearing to all ewiars" " roquiredo ukwt 3 to a
UWA r fetes lNrlrm a met as City Atm;, wtarfift las
fwd Us apiniewaw with rospeot to being w0arized to
ix Ude, othei pwldxg than by the propsrV +swear. NX"t
b is a uAter fres the City of ZWNM tr b°. Wrm Via .
bd# 7 Is Part 11 of tto Wban Massa R*-DwweUrpa*nt
PU% whish d"aribee taw pWpsa W of Vibm BWAWI hww In
ISI►. fthibi1t 8 is a paroposed opal parking lot B#
OWL" Is a inapt din by 'moi► t►ffUe of the Q'ity SmAnow.
Mbit 9 is also, a fid$ noro SoNoMp eleaKy sots
f*th the plit and Alarw rsrie w parkins lots, Rd"t 10 is
A
the PoPftty map of the central Ithaea Urban non pro
No. MYR 1 • 12. At this time I offoir those oXhLbits in
ev donoo.
THS Mn t ReeOlved,
(Maps ex uadned by members of Board) Y n
THS CUM Do" Mbit 9 early ober the aroa laa teated on the
map and ail the parking areae c*owsod In eesuostion
this parol?
MR. M1V5f: T"# air. P'orhaps Mftbit 9 show/ those sere eloarly
(des staratisd). Th000°rou ld all be motored parking o
TR CBMt Hew now Parting sPosom ars being provided whish ar+r un..
motered t
Mt MUM t Rano. For,tbo feral eartome" thorn VOILU b� 258 per} -
opaeee.
MR. FAM MARfiMRt That would bo designated "sontroUad" parkltg.
MR. MUM t That appUoe to all tbo parking sps*os we *so on that map?
M MMM: Yes.
TUM Mn t As I undorstandip. iso are no parking spaear that aro not
controlled. AU the" be wW parking spas" owtrrellod br
the omor?
MR. MMM: Not msloss J=t for the mmogor.
MR. PFAM t Ian"t there sac awwwrity mor rrbieh the Upton llonswu
has so dirested to psrshose pr"rtios wbioh eeald be dif-
ferent eiremrtanoes than malt
MR. Mi xft I Under 15-a of the General Xmisipal art the" is autherbod
the sottivg up of sem a eooies. trio are an an of a
WMAA-
palityll Fv Vii!'' say. 3h additia4 the Lt► : atnro of the
tato of Now York oroated the IthWaran Man AMenoyo
to oam out the fsmoaens for parpsa"r !"iron, to cocas
aM bum to be deteriorating or oebop l and VW Ci r'
eontsaeted to esm earn those moons.
M. PFAM t The Upton 8omem1 Agaw o fur a direstine to b%w up f
some of those poros t
MR, XM MI t Right, too were oft as shown by Nubibit ltd and ola or
ate'.! deaelish &U this aro& plus this mmol parvo dont in
the oonwrr of the bloo]4 -+rood to ad"rtise for develop".
Thl s we did# in the Now York Tiros aadWall dt►rrot d
and in loyal,papaws and mo,had abs two pmparals bronght
broargh# to us for dwolopwint of that b3,00k4 and alter
V=U:V,,A
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cityof lra' V �
wlsblot
and Mr. Abbott me granted tibe spaMaAirorobip. This mon
"do ater use I "i of 04 • we !at that
this was 00 pts Osal when the ft� bard the
asseti award two p� doh WOU JtWt Abed deabl Var UX
rate of that WA#k..
MR,► PlAWs womid you disease tlri foasibMV of p+tttim 14P a sma lar
'�- ballding, Idovn you voqa4 ium awed pu4dal Op""?
,MR. MOM x I tbick tlaat ropolaii of me sue, Of thi b*Ud ng it jut
is not !risible to parwftdo ow space per Rod fWA# lbothor
a saraU or a I&M ? Wing. 1. b*UAW* the imaUer the
brr ldim WWU be the greater hol th4p
0. Pl'AN►r wheAver vpi of devolop eat me in tug ahem, rm pPibw,y
U not be, able to must the pssldr4 ria V 9
. MMM t That ii off.
Tl MMI Is tlrii p"aUar to this A0410, Or p"901,41
MR. HOLMI Not and I tb�rla tbnt tiit"Irin the aOt f4 W SMOVIS tba" WIU
be a raft ping of %be, loosmat Qrdtarauaaar xitA this r lre-
arsntt dslotod. It it Is not fftsible. It vwAU ret IP
ioMd -----Aforgyral yr four &W aceto to do. We news a* abile to
vest for the Qrdimwo to bo amw4sda The Q rdlmani bm
been an the books sime, abant 204 mad to W lot 101440-Amps
have bom +ass► or two other prrojostr dwo tfty Ma into
this of r4treet Pu*bE pawrbloaa.
til IRs For lacer ling b" this prspii&I bem In airgott�r►t
MR. MM t Slow the ftU of 1965. It Vmm bas been doW In lobar
*wlv*vU projost &*tUjsg off the p"md, I U say ar
problaiar ants been kith Its rather than the dvmlopn. Thi
t
iraaai +nristard.
MR. PFAIMT a Don bit 7 osatUM f"U aoad t4ragiew Ont that seas
possibilities?
MR. MtiLYlti t It tabars in tbs satlim area as doftastod sm ll3Orl% 3.4,
outUzrid to the blook b my U"# a Mmgks to 90% up
propaarod bsarinwsast and in lobi doftkom &"&# tryin to
"Ake a woe oA aar►"110 ar singa, a r�ruurtla O MEMWttri�►s,
and tktnp liki "I sts
A
Ta CAMs Isthe" OWaw . to s
S?VART 1XM s My now $s Staurt Umis„ 120 Nast Stats 9troet, I an
asairdran of thertaril Dl„rrislsnf t�iMrr f *MIN 0 .
&$saw that you gentloaron aro wonder&" idot Is VW,:.
Of the neighbas of the ps*opeaod No" in the Aiiagm
area. We are mseh oonsersed boomwo, of the f A that UP
Weelwort h pro" wansd be a groat tratfle a'tta dAmt to
doMnterre Ithasso and it is dhtfioalt to gain a department
store of SaW adso late a doortom mace, all due to the f&A
that butUing oasts on the oaWdrts ars sbospor and sow
ars more attrasti". Lot are sagr that we feel it to forteW os
that Mr. Abbott was able to bring the Weelvertb prsjst in
to donnteft Absoas and the MsrrShonts Division oflMrs this
letter, whiah ple sr+r ney I read.
(Leiter rad by Mr. Lords)
MR, MMS Han► aW wo>robvats do you "proosat3
MR. LWM I I weld say approsda-aUlp 165 rotail yrs aid the Itbaoa
Chamber of Oerlsaoraao.
?W MMS Is there mope ear else to speak in facer of this appuestion
AR 3R J. GOLM t I represent tho OW"a Minton ftrper*iis% Mhioh is In dace
pr000ss of developing the opposite southern and of about
99 fort at the eager of Cliritra acrd SWAN QsprarEa► Stessue
we braee a vital Interest In this. I w to #tato a
pores mel note at this paIA, For six yon I bar+ been wit
this Zoal" ardi awes, kaoming it to be Mrrrog. tau the
Crdinowe was written sad ragdred 200 sea re fost for sash
parldng #pave ne one bard &W JA" that Uo re &W one
eras along ZU as brdldlag **Adni # 24000 +sgeauro frost
of floor apsee. The City emus up with, a segon of p�
this i:AO pubtho paridng. Oar Interest is this 1 fte Or-
dinanoo states that avatlablo parking ith n 300 f*4 of t
loea#ioa Milt qlaufy for than Zorn#ag ardtassag# and you
to that portion whioh "q "off-atrest parld n►g shall. be
provided and asintstnod btr the prspos y err UMN. TAX does
` net gran that he Ms to have this parirdng ad joeout to Us
buildings it wast be within 30 foot. 8e taut or bas to
havo a Lease of ornmkip so gest be is the ono MM is pro-
VidiAll the paridng. Nov I hare* aal d ropeatons that this
Wi anus, stootd be shu ged. Haar do you go ab+stt► tbi s t
There is nothing Abowt this thing that makes armsi, to pro-
Mbit this de olsp out be", Tho groNking of in raoaoptlon
1s nO than as wwr boouwe yet ave goierg to h0ft it thrOft
In your lap for every Dass'within the pro feat ansa. My e
wire are alroot► to develop hots► aper depending upon thlla and
without it we aro Mithoott an sumplAou. Evo ybsdjr has to
to You and ask for an s • so the saraol►bu thing
Is to *bog* the OnUzow. The VdIdirsgos ,oW-r is
porerltted on his mase J%ApwA to approve a toapeerarry poarmit
i�
M'w
Hll d o t an mmospuss In pdmdput but Road
It bask to tbs ftand>ls Maxd asp! Ot Rr QmmAU bw a
In this ordiamwo. It should be ohs4sd Olt sll baa
mod In MO Citr# nat JUSt WS Ms# but all b e*W" s
should be" an fir! tbq 4" It" IM44 silt! it is l p
to Yom flab hos to do %Mo. I atsht add tMt I have
SUVW tkv" Yom* Ap Witt" the oboqs* Z to
mod to do pdA sad ares nm$4, ad if ;you, would d .
rrso d
Wt hsss air par°obl+ M«
MLTM icost I an Suva +yobs sad 1 ' Address Is attw &Us I have Uttu
is add to tis aiissyk to sW I im amob In or what
Art sold WdU he kAt tbs w Ord 41W YM bWw MO bes to
be plrssod Tbyo isnOt a store an SbAo SM"t tb* bas am
prtsk sed Y*% o tr amadoas "now is "a"# !'m tis
storl-S. 'pry# to oar Job. flo ser obs r an W* bW lets I
It wftlftbo lbaSrtbls, NOW st t stogy Oft OWAV
Idth the ze"Ift %* . Tb# has is bs
tbo A104*4010t the O"W"i has appersnd rt
apprrasod tw do"IfilpMnA gel" 44 sems tufo If
Yom POOPIA domot pass an thus ,It Ulu twt of to a
m d send it beak to Wil. We m* tvyiMto a aUln �►
good and dodo or %AW the ?Mrsms. Ia mw
ottiso, t r l avo Ubm out 'qhs soUrs is tri► to fAtI
Ow ov%#WAs .w Uw be" boo paftft# 'lir OOOA have
sold tbls is a devolsW tits vv4d dv* boo ,
bet
tK do�rsloprtz► is %UUMS to do along vith tbN►psaRr, #m I
Vill appradAs it if you AU move 4m W& AW oso
T . 3 I:o %hM gip► aaa b"t Ube doors to spook is oppeatmom
to WO, opp"l sattOts't
it+la►
qtr. MativW# ors you safAsl od that bath maw bm bom
saUsf**%#V0 r **soled?
M* MOM Yost Diad I mould SMV 4VdA drat VW Wbft &
• rospsotWxy ssW that 0" appeal, be ft%O4 NA we fog
Ipm pe' go" qtr
M. VAN NWMs I would like the pw►srd to shown that thus to W %M
of Us Oatimmu I mould Uke a momm"illr ontorred �
UM JOrs Uto l 00" 3"UM U-B Ot the Zoning w
tI l Tia Hai"od sot oim should not Ism a
po t WwAn vAU h has dot+rndnod that All. PMAdA ao t
tho Zomin Old namme havo bout os od with* No t mporaW
ar me-IM nal or vesbal. brd�udim psradt shall be issued
&Uwis! sS tl Y11 vwtim *raw st+bor ps lt." britt
appsa +r alaa►s to arms to 04 els" to not
TO OHM Tho MoUN wf bo id,; rd sad tho Board will to #sten
mow �rllst.
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