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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMN-BZA-1966-04-04 APRU 4t 19" =UMMI 1' w Arm& YQQ» l s d " ►iw "RF�r * ► e WSAMM so= a. PrAng me Ran RUAM COORM Q+,# WMT TAX XUMW Via$ OM4091 tUWAK bat d4POd fMW tk Qs is +fid tb* QAVWM is to be bwoo lei► a ab me mm bwoo Vb bm aw ma J of toes *40" vow b" a o stuoto lb ww Wim# we �-' ka" o100" UPQolff"r 10*"! " oor AVIAm Q to"ghto ` Vie, Ow the treAtm of Te' roq*oxU It vvdA Wo a amodsm roto., Wo be" bow twift to sow Joe** yrs oar ckatvmu4 +gid "t a bw oil at MA hima 2 b$Uwo he bur ft ap ! t"Sn" It ym WU6 t* oa"s ** Ww" sis i m ,ota%"** til w v4U be ba". Mr* yet bt ,. Zt is 1oowi %bat ft os" X** 6" me sodwr *U di M►ltt to xdit 047 thVw to VoUs, md " Woo +4676 ts► oin be 64 thr"w do it to to %lwdlsad WAfto Of OW appoumt tM* �.. � 1* y" Wfat to offft, the alto"AUV ► *" tdjmvldu md soWIN o" bow t tuak we ab d MJews at tas "m aartttbo r bi�gw 1M toU+IM" M# T*WdW! ASAIL UU? lE�l.►:. 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I x" ll xr* d# I felt At thr" "Olo %v*U be batt I Awk vitk bft tatwMs ks f to P"M% t"SA witbftt Itstaft to t ft, I vmU Ubs to lot it to ead ptwat it Im n*rlr ftsb sn# . $rd# i s wo bm oorsdrA omd►tt is an tbo pis etf ow bdIding curd %U* 44V is selft to bo sori4 t I tm sdst of as szo wosabuto aw oth" date* X aIiM'w 1N ad to dwaddoo Ow MW 60 a " SA Ob,%OUYA %* 1A W UtA ` of tho oast? t Za*$ I eta b,wo ftr the first 040*0 No* 4730 1 Wak we out X ba" fow parMoskao sad a" tit ftr NO 06# PUS" no" +war app"Wme #a the viusam ate* X tam % adj$M U AM% '!'WWdW. SA f I ark* a mu+iNioAt to "�Mm C"Os Not 670 "d 6?'6 u SAT-rivwv* s .. g I wom ,d owe Oat Alar omm bo 4djeowd t!1 * wo tilt t--.vow A&4 dam. LM. VA 3 J*ot to tit bdSoummU Wo om i is PVOOMA Aa ma ordwlr bmft4mo we battMt -dil t o a att v*U so ter poftidwrr and t*4 that tt dogs o! Ap rU LM Is OWAbAwo I ds not ka m IV oft O*baftu at the moot #bat I ora ko baro md vM& i not aabeftu i** #ar mat Vic. I OW "U x r oto t"O"Ort "at do but I do a a'ftoaak to " oat and t taw swoopuss to for r4list of Vw surd that ter moolift bo ad3owmd a* nark. X der rt rrtawt� 3r to ra t+r fi rthm was ,aktu WO&WOd O O"CM RS 2 %Mmk we bates to Adjown to a 4*fW%it dam.,aid net to AU Vo WWW rM rotd2* Is t* VW Att*WAVS* Io ttso SSW fts 0346 fb r dt oft * 001 = d Vt StaftPo JUAW# 113 SOV*d*r ►d. I tit ho W #hr dot. I TbtS U fOr thw OWd. Nr* am tw aro ma &a o 34wuon It is solod An VW Nom. 070 om 09 - ds Aw of ra VKVIO vmt to adj"m to the - dot*? Who to hom 04 Irl or No. 071 t3I 'N WWI SM IARM i fm No 677* WO V&U MJ'OWA it* ik SM VO. 6tT8# I M JAM +Ad I ox SPOLo U tom. awt wot od roam 070 Os 4adApra Imo ' 3ftoodo .r�+r AftW tho Ustiadn of ` w ZmVMUVO *wsL4* of M am* mov ON t4 as Be"4104 the foo t* 06 swiloom ds rw"d x visbu to =IN a fir bm mw bpohm width Mr. 00 wo OAAW& up otftmmw fOU tett it* Iw bol OWO*d to VO Ifth+r I Obto Ott th forth" tb WO MO WM V*44fr tO 99 AN ORP b+eWf MA V~ a rxiat *r ow em tho ftt' U bad #Uw +i 4,VmftU md aft Wt bar thw VOU "to r $fib mw wimstamwo As a foatw3p t*j&mas ObumWa It f the thalk WN "am out" 0" ba w" himmolts, atm[ um tha swum to Odom ova thlt 100 jmWfAft beMdMSNM"d* OW I pl"ft be Wm"Sd " IW Is I OM **tf*"* AVO hew gom or zo s"wo Th=$ =4 ram$ Pm= =Aar, cm N&U►* E AM 49 19* MFs ' 3 i ' X 13 SM *"?.%O6o f t 6"a 67b i t MW A WAMS Ao, PAM MM= ! Co OVAT TAN Ste, Dates sariubw II fla t* ae bwo a parobl" biro tit, aw gon. ` bar �r+r tbo tho *AM^ .is 4W* to be bwoo F*W �ww arm► biro. bo hm of "a JA *&a at tam oat" wbo bwr s oft=ot wa s a e bA" 162AM Wry J&* daMarfftW **"r ass OW a four art W axrr b*VO arbAA* SOM If yft "s"s torr tbo gnOM4 of Y~ swstsssU it mm tako a< ua" ve". bb, Left txy1 ► web �aiaa�gt �,� off' ft4mons and a toor slsW at lis boars6 f b&U wo bar bio spa t & If goat Id" to paarr"S Faisar . x easa►s VA&W the" +eta~w>aa r , tbW rd U be board. Mmv AA oommot dais Fm bw" woa>c.. a It is im meet that In ossa leo. 670 ate► groom viU dl, bim Ol,t o I*ftm 404 Vs"* to "Ut a" so„r 676 tb A. bs Gay tbt "* so lik U to tis dissd+r=Uv of aapr a►gparU=t bows tfttot* i Do ym wat to offer for sltomstLv* of ad >rt std sab�duling sootb+sr b >�t no NMI I tum we shft" aid$ at tas %$A* for *"Oor 4 Is Vw! "PUset tm ttbat wO om got t+aw"Vier ewer took f tarrow'i �'�'�► 4paw�1 �! .ri s • ltL. Q* Wa ars bo" f4W P. 610. % we MU be► saUsft***W 1�0 11sr. , MA YAs sua► Owd>ds fir, of i*I * MwrlAJ4 tttss rs at L w q ftis O Sm Y*vl4 for Obvistim Yin". 11 dm not pewd t as to ~ bearer that soon. I an fermstrd in pa►, ft eases# tbo v"ft UVIAP & Low fir. s Fat = to Um to "dt sntu tbs Ud of are the s �.• vecaumly s obscbilod M*tift• is dolas to ba a r4ma bw&Mpo You Aot piek w"hor dater. I are at * dise►ft~ bras aa►w* Wow r to go abe" towwd t. Tb" rw slao bw►rrs a OMPU at' o0o r a* ux*4 up, I a xt* that uds is Imperuat dew haves ba* I stiff, arwsProomt s esu"t. I was tuwti3Ums Nw. 00that I folt AtMa tkr" W8010 wouU be sal aiei t## bot I seas esiwarob Ath bia tONAW . s Do yim vast U proaftt t4 ht vitbssrt lisp to ' ap�ww►�t s Ne q I vmU Uka to lot it do sal prrsmat it taw► ordodr to biassr. IL Q" s we bsrn oor—u" ewo I d ttammu an tile► psogy"s or L Ar"'ding and tKs 44V is 94M to be Sovim*. s I tldnlc most of no &" +ytramble to aw otbw datoo waw � x X mom ve Mjisura to dtxd4o. MU s bms mW aas► harm as objoetion to most rte# April 32V4 an aim of the *&#*$t .. s Y"q Z an laao for the fl"t 0"00 No. 675. #.1 ak we have no opposition; I bags fftr pwU" bars aced wmt to go aad For No, b Pum" wu oar appoao #o► In the WLIUMS o I =we to audjoun to mmt fooh l now a moo► to adJOUM Cisco so, 670 and 676 �► asst T%o*4mv st&4 Aptil at 7 t3O* . w. � MU L All JA fart tom. A a l vould sante, %bat car oac m 'too sdJeavaod to a vook Oft t STOW nighto April IM. WD M A ob j"t to the ad jot o WID &" haatWight "UV to Pr000ed In ars Orderly taald ON6 W have at 't• as well as ter poUtiomor and ftol Mat a date of April i Im is a I do, rAV kww frou ow sm oabOdalo at ths, mmot that I ow bo boo ftd Ash that ym '#lard Sot #Ob*&U# &Uit fOr WMt mak. I OW 0411 Mr, Q*mor tamov"w amt it batt X do mot *swamt to an ad m,- >m+. =dItake woopusstOthe mumgoftkA DNAVd Malt ths mosting bo ad j'oww" me wook, X do objeat stwencoadr to an adJ t vitbout w fu's' '#` ='l Wo6 �t t I tMM Mri bm to a4j*wxa to a deflidta, date and not f"ar" dl to d W* AU tba atu ftow you ext" is to th* attOaWO'. mum Is two* sw mo 01#0 for Ot #fit so, OOT Albert 1100tWa J #,osl U3 S0Vftl w Ift& I aw, I*t 114 M bow* as s --prossautivo fw a Tri at VW now to add is Vw 3 M& IM MMs Baas .s Wmo& Nr Mum has est+ sd saa► Obp- jao s" and it is 44" to aunt"* to th► saaao► rots? t to b"O on bobw of 90* S"T WIUZAX URM and SISMIT IARWS Ffr Ra+. 07- id► AU ad am it. IL Out go. 678, 1 an isms esu *ad I an spoolblar to m "J"S t AL Ms Jose* 36dro No, 679 Xt Is sp*04M$ to sw is MiAl ant mak# ML am,r no" &ISO to sdj*Uft L tb• f*M0AjW LOA MMUK Aftor Us bs*t g of VW " U4410K of 00 Said *t Xr. tail►, Siam no. dTdj, art to the dssrd t WA _ tb* rome"I s I reil "od mfr Aghts to nabs a ortboV staff# twirl with Mr. 4*Owmv SM wo ftrAAftod up tKs wa r. X v400 or ob Mwt to Vo W 1 a � 0'G r fbas tbat it bout .bsft "Jow"d lin the lam. lobjeattosm — Vw trrt w droirA thato we rage bars poso to QCs an our brb .t mtd tbnu& as fault of awe Wim► tits s*tter has Its bo ad jow ood Wo bar oth" aeww tborwtt+r sad om wt bs Mom bard to tho ' ou* Vw "esti for tlas uuwA * A a farWwr ebwa4 me Wmbor MVSAX difqftUfi*d his- $olrl tho Dowd dsw rwt boo a qwwoa* 'PAs msowes our vvLood 4340u wit. Lot Aw put It q the vowd that Xpo Pftmi diad sUtsd that bw wo dI*q Ua himolts arm tbm vbm tbq baa nines to adJsm ever iW sb$WAs4 the n+tl► Imob * 1 fWftor vwv Vat the aw" be r+e U"d aid not ad d., MW 1 ploom bo motmsd at I' $ addpess, Id"h tho r1r I 1#iNi. In the Matter of Can Mo. 6759 Appeal, of Joeoph 5, Abbott U3 Park Place► Itbaft Mn TOrko special. permit to eroot AIM at 91t:F4 Wets; SVtaa Street, lthaAa, Now York. Pv- p dixonsins do not 0090V with vee dromernt r Sestiion Colon 4 in D-4 servo. I T am meth Jebnsoea aPP HW,n9 In Case NO, TUs to an of Joseph Abbott, 91»914 West State Starost, for a gowial permit for a sign 96 square feet to be lea ated at the north on d of this baalilding moor West Seaaoa Street about 20 foot from grm ! to vol. As you kaam wg the soming ordinswo in this H4 ,r acne roqidrox that the Hoard of App is app► sips ftp to 230 �► amt psevided 10% of the total wall amis not wed, This is no , in OW arose, Jar Abbaatt's store is located at the point of the trlabgl o whero West Street ogres JAU West State and at the point of the tAaabgls tberre is a liquor stove* Coo the oast wall of Joe Abbott** 1igwr #t+r" thele is an obstaraction for most of the building; it Is the Msso station theme. 3 tbAn you are all fsAliar with their big sign tbrm, Us ststtaaa Is fAming Joe Abbertt*s east wall sad vrx7 *lase to it„ and the" is a Mk with tires an it and you just got a little otorner of Jeer*s stere abd be has a UVWr sip over the sidewalk, So wants a bigger sign with an arm an West Sneea Staa!weet, Ab*" the ung area it would be ffto and would be �.. a good plooe for Joe Abbott bessaso he boas no for a sign aw- vhs" oalso b cause of the +obstnotin. This is Vis oWLy ohrmoo be has for traffic oast to west. Tbere are a lot of signs In the ar" and #m In Us ear diarg a"* Joe bias mailed out a notloe and snt to all the agh- bent but he also has ennt from all of toren that they do a ., • TbAy all haus signs n t4�r establisha�ts, Robinoft A Qu7mU6 a 'UM crane, aoad WAoaton has a big nose +and the sUWAr station bas 'e"W big d4ps wd Nuo*e Naso Station - the biLIboards are vi&t on th ZaU+,,,* I do not think it wo4d detmt from tLo area# bort is arena aly saaftLM thew less sberuld approve boovAse it is the =4 pla" wbenre Jere +can put a slat, This is as floe east aide of the bdAd*M near tAe nor" sid s of the bpilding so the sigaa mild be tag out of ra► to Somose'twat ' Stats Streoto Itis to be attsohod with metal award plywood. As you craw In ym neo the Hsso sign #ea►d this X 11 bo 20 fvet above thaet# WAbbertt*s"* with a brig o>a!rev, oil AM Do you sontUaft bans the sketoh 4 Which sign to it? Boaard acaa mews sad "view the proposed sl a, lam. W YSm: (fig Mr, Jobason letter frox PlaNaaaa ng Word) What are they t+allcing abwatt MRs JORMIs T n1d like to go an record that their �►t#.aaa�ea an not There are all loads of sigaaer !baro waA W4;M tubo G 9b `-� square foot* Tboy aro► all enjoyed b7 all x tubers of Vw blooko lids stateant is Inoorareoto All the otbar oeaasrs boom oroaantodo hf this is the east wally this rted be errs flee 00%U side evela 191 tho srid"aU* There is a sign m the r filet band aide of this, building but that is wt Abbet#so Thr sign tW bane baro Is wW up In the "Gond part of UW,; boil. dae Is is not Ust M4kie Oar sig mound be just abe a the ob- stra sttem„ reaUy on the seemed Mor of the building. Now mserh square footage Is theme In the anti" wall ar"? . J t 60 fent br ales t m 30 in blight, • MR. UK SUM3 It would be W square feetr, as ions Tbo obstsawtion tr the Reso is mor* thm half tw area. I did not know t1w Plaantxeg Dowd had waft any objeattem. Tb w kiw o emt appeared. I meld like to be given an. op. Portmad ty to present my Sygemont ag4not tars. You ala a" fo r stateernt is Imeorrosto Yoe would know thls fYmst thew arra. AU tbo pserpla bane'eMsr*AW tar tads. They all have sips* IL MM, AZW arse bas appoariag for or agar tleis No._6731 ,., None 16sT s I would meat poridasion of ghee► Board for an YM.,KUM I em gree ym tier ward tmorvow if we make a e"aR„ 16 imo t: I wout to sew eel the restord that the Pland ward's stats ars i rxr2 o t and I � like an epprerl %jr if torr deaidem goo$ against erre to f&W t3w Board and ton gree thew f7e ots. mmovm walcu t April 19" 8145 P.M. ISO.MO: I that ar dimt the seovotagry for V"Owk vw PlawAng Hurd to tom a tatal at fit"! {13) oopi*o of *mob numorms6m an appsall, and to )a" all 00908 of the mmrsad& to tho Hiorstary of the Board of Ze du Appeals +oar r"k pKer to tb* Wig. .��ii►� saaan8� do ia. '' yam for No. 673? IL,,,MO, I flikd that ter Apt ►otod to wltMn the porAttod allmsme at 10% and tbarefo ro mm that tbs application be gt*nW« �s eaaa�i v wo BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS, ITHACA9 NEW YORKo PUBLIC IUMING'ADJOURNSD FUN APRIL 4, 1966, HELD OR APRIL 12, 19669 FOR CONSIDERATION Of APPEALS M. 6769 677, 678 and 679 PRBSiEM t#IDFFREY WEAVER r RALPH MALDINI 080 009 R. PFA11N9 JR. RICHARD Ci?1iMCir t ,TORN IN)MCKI WILLIS R. RLMOOD C. MMRAY VAIs MARMv, Building Commissioner, Secretary RICHARD CMTOCK# having been elected Acting Chsiroont LA CAAIRyAIla He are ready to proceed, lout lemen. MRr,....PFAMs I wouid ave at this tiers, referring to Casae No. 6711, the Ithaca Savings A Loan Association# that because of the fact that the last titre:;. we Bret, there acs some �qsm *0 to all interested 'parties being &violable at,. this times and also on request of the Ithaca Savings & Loan to your secrets .y that we adjourn this matter to our next regularly sabedet ped public hearing, that we hear this matter on tbe;itiset Monday evening:ire May. and further, that , tie notice such hearing by regularly duly published notice. � -rl • I..AINt i Second. kIt All In favort tiPARIso tas &X MR C 1AI 1s The fI rst odse to be heard is No;. 6769 tba Appeal of Nest o ■rtr u i � rrrtr Williams, 616 w. Buffalo 8tr atp Itbaca, N. Y., variant o the atoning ttirdi- n e to remodel existing building and add an addition at 303 West Lincoln Street, Ithaca, No Y., for show roses, storage and off ice, to ,eta it does sot conform with requirements of Mise► 7, Columns 2 and 4 in an 1-3 tone. 11RDUN I May it-please the Court, I as attorney for Mir. VIIIlaw who can not be hones`°_tonight due to the fact that he is out of town, and Mr. John Pitts is altar appearing as broker. Mr. Williams is the proprietor of the Cayuga Electric whose pet location is on deet Buffalo Street, and we ask this Board to take judicial, notice of the way that business Is carried on. fir, William is contract purchaser with bars. Mildred Rocker. With respect to these premises they are located at 305 Best Lincoln Street, premises tient have a son conforming use as gar as an R•3 tons is concerned. The Rocker Rag Business -2- has bee* carried on there for a good amber of years, but now it is a hardship for Mrs. Recker to carry on this business since 'Nr. Rockers Beath, and if this property is not sold under the existing contract it will be as eyesore In the area. The contract is subject to the toning lav of the City of Ithaca and it is necessary to obtain a permit to carry on as a business. atherwlsa the pur- chase offer will be null and void. With respect to the present building it has a 'frontage on Lincoln Street of 132 feet, a depth of 194 feat; the existing building is 3000 square feet, and is 30 by 601, and has a setback from this stre t dine of 19 feet on Lincoln Street and 21 feet on Wi l loo avenue. The prepbsed building will be 54 by 100 and also have a set•baeck feces the street ltae of 19 feet adn 11 feet from the westerly line„ all of which dimensions are within the roquireaents of the toning lav as we now have it at a minimum of 10 feet. The back arena will be 115 feet in depth and 73 feet at the rear of the proposed addition for which the appiicot oa: is now before the Board. The tarred land area is 23,688 square feet'The building area with the addition will be 8000 square foot . with 5000 of that for the now building. The percentage of building axea is 32%, which is less than the requireventa in the charter foran R-3 ros denoo, I bad w~ AppsllAmt#s 8stbits 1 thsaagh 9 for USA- tifl"tiqn. fhere are ph*"graphs of the area sig tba bidLIding and the a wndi err". Mftbl t mer 1 shown the owwag+e plant Jost &0"09 tlee easoaftlla Creek, and Numbw 2 sheers the area fast to the MA44 Which is nen► Rorie 13. ftabor } shows the area between the easterly side of s bdadbW and tier area omtexplate►d Feer the mw oa nstrateram; Number h, maarhad fur U06- tjf1o&ti*%4 stirs the Roeeksr build ag and also ohms the bua►ldlM On the *stet, Uweloss and Zolosige Adoh is strie r acmes al. fix► 5 Ohms_00 OOOMW of the building mid also, again, pert of tke Gide sewgtge ploerat Jut +►users t1M 4reeek on tbo 00ter slide of the Street, Swobor b shms the area InOdUtOXY e►*me on the other side of keuto 13 and past of ,T*bnfen's boat yard "d a M4 str4gt a ee wj eh is detlaitely an eye-sore in the ate► and de it*27 Oft- �,, r*s1dsatia7., Number ?` shams Will*w Avow* and ties a to tho riraar wKeh AU be used as a paritiag 14# with Its Present,ore►rgrasn WOOO ieNUMItIM whi0h be i d. Nvabor 8 eek Oe " maversierl -to on t side No, go for ea► +%r OOMW Of WOO M amt bWadift esed show libe set baa$ of the street seat the goes esenst"Re"eMft of the ra. I Offer I thro"k 9 In ovidoass. s..$ : Beeoirrod Appolla"Oa Mftbits 14 and U *WA*d fW 149mUfIfttion , maa Thsoo ass aleeWbos sbouLme the sise of the st root and the IOU and also the poroporuomato routi"Whip sad desip of flee oadMng batlt+dlmp sn the U04 ASA slceteh I offoar In SAdemses WoOm ll sliewl the hest olaasation of flee oomst tion* irheh of Owe is unh Usu Um the roquivemmuts of the ]ant • and it also sheer 00 0090 ealsrratt�e. I vmdd like to refMrmoo assts mWo to 600 Of the Otbibits and ask tho Board to tWo mal netU* of the VWASW WUMW JA VW areae, duets Boat 2ardo the Caa►t ry Wol+rsaU horoot tom's R►fAgm ora** Bsrdoop a larges dader block bsildinge also tho Dasa► IAVMmb7 aer"O tbo Orook the QMW d spos44 on Open banish, lotp and a laarga A A P rOPINNIMP vmoh of se►arae is eoamiersial. 00 point aware but this it al" a �t a alr not to miss fS squaw Host. The at+r►a ice. bo :LIS br 73 f Letters have boft sent out to all ad ghbors within n 200 feet raftrse from the avec, and we hags reseivod no objooUsme The nearost houso is m the r of LAMOIA and DO► Stroou* I offor Udbits 10 and U in ovidemoos .., �a Resoirod. jam,,,,,, ,: Is it within the R-3 ars OLUU*wt Not I soo it is amt. SIM= go a W ages ,are off ail morythbW ata► sem« , ,a The bedldim as It sadste would aft yield a seat sfastsaw returat I know fear a fast that Molter has had a gog and also Mrs. ova* rime lets dsatby„ sad the brl2diat has boam an Hess aaarlest for a oassbor of yOm*, Now old is I%T I gw" it would bar Wteen to 'fat* Via'+ It v" ba Ut for that paposoo It is not in good shape. 'The tOO has a omisk iahieh no from tb* +a leaf to the crovido aad acre Imaky to got sass on* lilac gr. MliLUSM to bplr VAS* ism MO: It has a second floor? t Part of it doss. It's just a sgmw balldtM« 500 f'sott The addiMom would be em stow? Tbat Is O'errsets #t. now" MMI It is all 'tiro apples? „ a Vxeopt for the soli west aaa wr, W fool %W it to I to do wrUdag but uppeft Vw ►., yr sDIA you to KeSSO VMI YOU UM %M It AW? ftow rcav4 stoma surd of sa aid tbw am ate► vM ba mat It vM be his prjMjpa pUss, of eft* Is Us sV got" te be? �,,, ► on U*WU 3r"4. 66..,a: Is tia 010 wSwAa to spT up.,Mw Iter it U. AL W=l it um bar wat &gab" tba bw l wtn" Via fL and sewed :.+ter wind=*. M&AW: I pi&t add that as far as tit wst or Vw 9004 is 000MA a 4 tLara is r* f tlwat ids +X towim wiU not Oft*t the a for ras ,daa►' A M"Oes The Asle sm baUfts to Vo s Is tom► ate► a* twAot Is avesilift T It"a" ur sats Ia flaw Sw am bore that a s to qvw Is fagot of U" eta . ,T Ar fad VWSU ns T A�ir1� , f1�Ma scot oemArth r*q d:"okftU or mss 70 SMIXONS t, Z-1 lbA I my now Is AM" iba`arT#" and I the a►pp as" In this matt pro To oemoset shat I be1#ove Is a 'POSS164 vo an not arty is "t aa► poutift V" mall; mo ► With 111 sont19g a'a l'w"** ire a" An #Uflot ash. mal sellrUa7NIlaE we a pp%7 sem' pal► ltas tw vpe of Aw.f al u0n lA we N*bgt, but it is al Ull alomotthim that mat the Board4 alw, �I Tb s Is luted In an 3-1 » sod it sal t tb we ow appmn 4gus up to 254 squoxe feNaat wovidbu It's In 4100ow rltb lot : avo, and so &t li s Woom Oo, of Central Now York to as vb*Usas and Lwbo ar aaa Ust siteaatalacl at 305 'Pbrtald Strawt, bcouded a9 u Vu southwest br D' 00"t, ToMrd cwt fad IN 1 is al gbt a is 13 in the, Oitr. �ft *" applybW f" on slV4 is adds* t asa # a alp of 230 square Wit, iiatoh is the mtAms alcor for this a me �.. §4= ,j j," bavimg firot, bay dWLq mn% misverod ail AL a91a1�►at� A=, 4. Tour now spl d +amass? A* 3 ZAvMn-► f- Zowl" Apwrtmo too Leaslago I on afts a W f Qapoassama t as of co nttvol New Yo** CZ. Yss at" is obarge at that opormfdaaaaat? A,t X"* Vat and Above, ve Wte ifttls Qw mtwo, of their bwdaess? A. Zmbw a and h-I&24A asq%%Ues mead matorLoUt w**U mb4swas vU► as retail. 4# Yew 008614 Ot"!".�a" icor sbexs"t As Nine to bvr+e, but the mem sffi ass is In It ututroo, WO basal Aftr lwbw yards. Q* C4w ym SW vA ash idioa of Vw extealla4t of yvw bodmoss'� A, it is xM tbs gmoral amtrwtor and with the blare omw and ve, de 4 of bodmose Weaaitrs amvgwl iw6 � CoUsaf% Char on AU, tbo" big jobelp and aelUvig to tbw 3UIO of Ww Y its WO a 4140 SUPAVIM *w%*a .aa U 0% Xlmdn C*Ufts and Vie` 0021scow Q. Is it fair to say that you.oa>rry on a wholesale lumber business on a larp seals, perhaps the largest in Ithaca? A. Yes. Q. Moes your area hav* certain limits? A. It is not strictly local. It extends to Cheawng County,, Tompkins County, T ogs County and all surrounding counatiesw and emanates from this loc&tiom. Does thin company carry on an advertising ea"iga? A. Us, we have a 12-page pamphlet going out this week, and we advertise in the Ithaca Journal every other week and we are on the tadio and we send out mailers. Q. Do you have any permanent situ presently on your premises? A. A semi-permanent, about 4 by S. sign on our building, with the word, "8rossman{s" facing Route 13, but it can only be "on if you ride up Third Street. Q. Is there any permanent sign there, facing new Route 13? A. No. Q. Can you give us a description of the physical properties of your busiuoss the dimensions on 137 A. Approximately 309 plus. Can you give a rough idea of the acreage of your property? A. Not off-hand. I would say between three and a half to four acres„ macre or less. Q. How many buildings an this land? A. Three. Two are warohousesx one is a combination store, warehouse and office bounded on Route 13 by a link !once, a stats fen**. Q. Have you boon approached by advertisers to erect signs an your property? A. Yes. Q. Have you accepted their offers to rent advertising space?, A. Ho, I have denied thea. Q. Who are the neighbors doyen there? A. Haverstick and Winkelman. Q. Is then any other business situated in this particular block? A. No, across on Route 13 is the City of Ithaca barn and the Ithaca Junk Company. Q. I shore you Appellant#s Exhibit 4, marked for identification, and can you tell urs what is in that photograph? A. _ Ithaca Junk is diagonally across from our yard. Q. I show you Appellant's Exhibit 69 marked for identification. khat is that? A. A cinder pile belonging to the City of Ithaca located at the Ithaca barns directly parallel to our property aearsss the street on Route 13. Q. sow you Appellant' 5it 5, marked or cat on, and CAVA you tell us what that depicts? A. That depicts the Ithaca baxn and the pole an Route 13, which is parallel to our yard across the street from us toward the south. Q. What zone are you presently in at your location? A. 1-1. Q. Do you feel that it is essential for you to have a sign of this size situated on this place of business? A. Yes, ons reason --- we happen to be on Route 199 which has a speed limit of fifty miles an hour to Dey Street, where It diminishes to forty miles an hour, but Day Street Is at a bend from left to right and when you take that bend that is the first sight you have of our lumber yard. At that speed before you know it, you are by the yard. We have had many comments from various customers as well as contractors and people from out of teem who did not kwm where we were located; also people in inquiring as to why they could not find us and when could they see the lumber; that it could belong to any one, but if they come to look for Grossman's it does not mean a thing. But this is the place they are looking for. Management has decided that we do need a sign. We called on our sign man In Massa- ahusetts- to recommend a sign that one can see at the gate of speed they are traveling on Route 13. He submitted a sign much larger than 230 square feet. They want to be We to Identify the location iumodiately, but we spoke to Mr. Van Darter he gave us the Informstion that we can not exceed 250 square feet and we reported back that that was it and complied with Dir. Van Martens recommendation. That is basically the reason we nood the sign there. Q. Did you say it was the recamoondation of your sign expert - was a sign in ezooss of 250 square feet room ended? A. Oh, yes. Q. Did your company actually produce a sign And send it to your place ; business to erect? A. Yee, that is the sign. Q. That sign is in excess of 230 square feet? A. Right. Q. I show you Exhibit 2 marked for identification,, and will you tell us Ata that Is? A. That some sign we put up to take a photograph at the exact location we Intend to place a sign. Q. Approximately how far away? A. Approximately 200 yards more or less. The picture was taken from the higimey. Q. I show you Exhibit 3 - tell us what this is? A. The son sign which I took close up from the highway. Q. Do they fairly and accurately show the sign as being where it should be placed in proper position? A. Exactly. A. Yes, over 2S feet from the highway aright of way, Q. I show you Exhibit 1 and tell us what this shows? A. This to at about 100 yards, taken an flouts 13. Q. Do all of these last three photogarphs fairly and accurately show the sign as It would be seen by a motorist passing by? A. Eptly. Appellant's Exhibit 8 marked for identification Q. I show you a survey nap, narked for identification, as Exhibit S. Can you tell us what that shows? A. Our new warehouse, marked with a letter "A". Q. This is your warehouse? A. One of theca. Letter "E" manes another warehouse. Q. Can you identify the xasnainto& buildings? A. This building back here Identified by letter "C" Is the shop and ware house and office on the upper floor. Q. Will you Initial all of those. A. The building identified by "'D" is the manaeger•s office and stone. That Is all that Is shown. Q. Also on this map Is a square - will you initial that? What does this abet? A. the exact location of our sign on our property as nearly accurately sa t can shown it in a rough fords. Q. is this location Intended to be 25 feet from the highway right of way? A. Yom. Q. Also 50 feet from any boundary line of your property? A. Yes. Mould you say that this distances between the highway right of way and the o►ig would be more than 50 feet? A. Yes. . Appellants Exhibit 11 marked for Identification, and read to the Board by the witness, being letter fres Haverstiak & Company, Inc., aver the signature of their branch manager and addressed to the Board of Appeals, Ithaca, New York, substance of which Is as followst This is to advise you that we have not any objection whatsoever to Grossman"s of Central E.Y., Inc., 505 Third Street, Ithaca, New York, putting up a 250 sq. ft. ares sign on their property." Q. This letter you have just reed, is this from the company that is your nearest neighbor? A. Yes, directly across. 'There are no other neighbors within 200 feet othe than the City of Ithaca. Q. is it true that your sign expert suggested the tuna of the sign with r*- on Rome 13? A. Yes. Q. Is it trus that your company has a safety program to connection with thee firm? Doss this mount to tbstr sending out canvas overlays to place over the signs during holidays sad weakends? A. Yss. We have two overlays thoy scut dors, sad 'during the holiday* as b this over our sign. You he" probably teem those .fty times the we wit. the policemen carrying a child, saying, Oftis may be your child*, and the other orae to the crash ones, Of l s my be yes*. q. is it tarty to sty that you intend to carry on something like a safety program to connection with this sign? A. Yes, our company always doss. Q. And to +ache those signs as attractive as possibl*? A. Yss, tbsy do. Q. toz LIAMOW The north line of the property » the D. L. b. W. UR.? A. It Is the Wbigb Valley Railroad. ARMS Appsllont"s Rachibit 12 offered in evidence. MR, 0% RWI Received. Now high is the lower edge of the riga above the ground? A. Asa instructed to put it 8 feet. was are at a lower level than the road. This is supposed to be at sys level. We would like to conform everything to sus architectural dssigrt. b , _CNAISMS is the fees of the riga at right angles to the bigbawy? A. Yss. Q. to it to be illuminated? A. bio, apparently there is a street light right there &M we arse using luminous paint. M IBM: This is larger as shown in tboss photographs$ larger Oise 250 fast, lies will true it off to conform and it will be substantially then it appears bare. 11 !M:r Any other signs is the area? lig, bM►Rm I The junk pard is there but bas so si;gea. Tbore is no other business than Revsrstiak. As I sudorstand, the criterion is not how large other signs erre in the area.' This to not a SO by 50 squames foot building. This is a large and expansive business with a sign we feel is ap- propriate. There is no limit as to the nu torr of sips on those lets. The signs on Elreira Road ars right next to the highway aright of way. Grossmato is suggesting ons sign which they feel is appropriate to the sista of the biwinses and be" suds careful study as to also of ' her a eiga. MI UMS Any ons have appearing either in favor of or in opposition rrrlrrrumnnnrlrY to this appeal? •10. Fiths�Mt, h� Yerk, as sgsaarsptieas► to the sasi,y a �e►sse�: t a doglims at 426 Mist hhesi'dolo 8trsst,, Tt�, �les*1 proposed dilwasisas does, not I *$as= wi ui t* o2 section 7, Coiumas i ossed le* and cow G. amplogi 4,10 BW 11p; I isst�prest�ttiosss. ' e 2 as Jams Ross at 426 11ast Suffalo Street. Mr. Chair- swo sssssbsrs o2 the Board, I on appeal imS for a second him" on a lot at 426 Mast hdfalo street, to be can- stftetsd at the rear of the lent. We oro opp"UnS Si 70 Volas 7, and sectiones 70, iColaesre 16, in an 1•2 Some. I 4li�h►1+AMI The Interpretation iavelonres no specification as to the front yard. The exception is see to th*%ws yard, tbei war the boose is proposod to be pla*od an the lot. , M.WI This hsax as apartment boa" at the front with Soralss a this rear, and a lot to the north of the Ssrages which t proposes to but Id on. Is- Am, to this a Cita street? la .0 yes, the clossat !s Willits Place. MR MOM h ,ere is this lot located? �+ Not"" tiillots Plaice and solea Place, no" dooir to the Xtkoem College sorority. am do you let book in there? `here is a 4 ri""My that leads to the saran screw sa the west $ide of the present boas now. What i is the aesoespancy mm? $aVGe apasts"ts. M: MM, 1A the roar, Sognpos, and more land +ort back? M z A 52 by 92 lot north of the SOVISSes. MR. ran$ You *job to build a dvolling book tb*ra for your ow use NMI That is right. AppaliMt's Exhibits 1, 2 and 3 vftT%0d for idestificatio Tho tatir+e lot at 426 Bast Uff,016 Street is 22 by 260 f t.' Vit.,M dams its how* 13*520 sgnars fact. -1l- A* 5 Inches. A. A,Lfl, s HOW far away frac the apartment house a, the $a rs&es? . about 40 feet to the first gars". oat, i s a four-car garage MW the other a tbree•ear prago. We are a little better than 200 feat. The gauges 'ars 34 by ld and 34 by 20. The proposed boa" is 2d by 36 a*4 L think it ernes out to just 35% of the 52 by 260, the entire lot,. . YM a This figures to 4429 withthe existing building and the two garage a, asking a total of 31% so be is ander the Sexton allowed for lot coverage. Re is under the 35X. MR : Where does be get into trouble'? IR. M K.UTsat Apparently in meeting the rear lot requirements. Ut aro asking for an interpretation. tit3d►yi�R3 there do we run into trouble,_an the lot 1`10142 . VAN Ie TP t The way it is proposed, the side legit 11164 become area yard line, and this is the except should be 20% of the depth of the lot and this1"11 dues net apply on ae+e ant, of the way the house is placed. MR. PZW1 If he turned the house could he sect the requirements? MR. Wgil t No, Ice would be off on the Bids. Jam.. ?fie To the 'north is a badminton count and to the west a parking lot. The asst is the hack yard of the sorority house, all ower groan. VAN MM: My arithmetic checks out pretty well depending on boa 41 we look at the rear yard and the passibility of a seaoti. building on the lot. t`...�:... .. s It is not a multiple residenrse anti not s 40t"rsion ate' you can not treat it as a separate lot. "AWMA, There is no practical way to divide it ,cud preserve the ri gist of way. MR 1502Rs He gets Into trouble since he wants to Separate it. DR. PALOIrtI: is it to be one story? A. Yes, with_a split foyer (showing sketch). MR.,C„ tAt The dfrreeaeiostee of the existing house are 37 feet 8 tackbos by 69 feet, 3 inches? A. Y+ese slr. DMt !#s Are thee" any ether special conditions other than dere lot also for an extra bousoo any other particular or peculiar circumstances other than the fact that you ha h 12- A, Ne. M Owl Who are your neighbors on each side? A. Ithoem, College property an all three sides and Mr. Davidson at leo. 1 Nilleta Place. His road is beside asy driveway. willeta Place to about 60 foot from ay property. MR,..0 A ;. s The only 'stroet your property is oe► to lost buffalo St A. Aright (showing on plan). Any other questions? Apparent ly none. Bevo you atytbing also to offer, ,Mr. lot"? A. I do not believe so, air. Any one stele appearing in favor? Apparently novae. Any in apposition to it? Apparently tions. Have you gotten any indication of opposition, Mr. RoS&ftq on the part of any of tho ae ghbovs? A. leo„ air, and X just talked to a' poiiesmta outside and •�'' both be aad Mr. Davidson said the "no thing. I have written to Ithaca College and went to she van in shaVV of their properties and havu.not board anything from th4m. .R- CUAINW: Now about the neighbors across the stro*t? A. I communicated with ail of the* within 290 feet. let. WAN !*Ms Ons am, a Mr. hailing, did net ustderstased thio~ but he now does mad has no objection. hHt. Ct#A s Thank yore, lir. Bogan, l believe that is all. - No- MANN* a OOUO !" Avemo ah"i4 Sm * P Edo" wt somp3s -Ath 1"V reaftU of � ► ?: %U is apps? Joan i`d's )' addrsss is 4U ftft QWW a awe *o O"mm ad mftn of the mile I as apedfW ► fir a snorer to ba oa wtrrsated an an S-3 :Lot. I had west rOSUS*d th" # sspe►srats VaarSaa" riauld be "q*"d fft a Ap to to alA" %t# 'm nes&. I meat &rood to &U rV a i bo" fos ter apneM*d dim on olthor side and wrfty arts sold it mw a good idea to bM this ire► up tbom, AfUr I got war atoms► bit I weedap .+Mat .va it a Ap and ma told this We to httr►o a sepe�atrr �asrMo f W tbt ba# $ it b" " d mm, I bave taken #am jt� rer to sbbear VAS I at of oot awori r *Iso and baK a sign is mod*C A,ppeilymt*s Nftb&U 1 tib 13 "VW for ietsee►1 tlsaetti+ As to 1i 2 and 3e then tom► U"o pima t&hsn is soA" t"m OR COUA ger A W,r ser vft oan am tbo sig vmld not l arttrf war *,4b mW odor signs, IMb b tss 4 g - is travoliwtg soWth on Us 340% b"d sidrM of VO str"t &VA shorn & Aln .is aa#W44 boodod to ides U y i4 as a bVI24ag* On the OtWr skier, tMalift 00 904 Mftb&U 9 awed 7 is ft tits Lrrt"6 bawtd side of ter st at 2"ki ag seatth and y m ou see v` it allU ntrrds a stga f►d vmtt I vith a w other Aga tba%r ftwt u" sash &ga n I offor Oftbits 129 8 and 11, That shftat taw:" north an tho loft hawed side of the strsst arwd show boa the at*" is kAddm m. til yet ash it. UL kamI &w Mob to the stovo f"mV Ar I bow a foot mid a Ulf for the suppwrtiaag solum at the aft4h +see! of_tbs bvAldift and ar im awed & baf foot abw* the at"ot lw"a and six fob b!. and faolaft fst iddo, APpsllaat's Mftblt 14 wraxftd four "MUri,.eaUto At tbls tim I old offer 'UdItilt 14 rrhieh is a sbdw* of the sib It ,AU bo no attd pUAUo in bseo* a th sigees in tho area at pa cont. Appsllawetrs UMbdLt 1,5 wt mterd for ideiatiflost1*4 bsim J#tUr frontVA&SbborirAg M#rsbMU +end "M in VVJ&ar fto w kWtbiaiC 4" to of f*r? Just Uat tots" &ars signs aid mts, ms sntt► at me &nws I" fto" oat tho oppssits side of t o stmet, #ted *0 Wilp"'W bei is also a omod eroomweJaL � Ir LtAny gU"%i.oM f" Mr. Jos"k ? .. Z� Wiens >e44dd this s Wt be an year p"por%r? A. (ab"IB an 1jotw*)t JjWdo the s3d#vwjk ]sets ao 'thrtt it dmMrt't ft" xith the o"rhougo .14- MR. lk-MR. PF,ANNt Do I understand that we can not grant you the right to put the sign over the sidewalk, that we can give you the right only to enlarge the sign? You would stili bwo to obtain permission from the proper authority to overt the sidewalk. MR. CHA EMO: Is there any one appearing in favor or against? MARGA=T ANACrNE�ST: I am owner of the College Motor Lodge. I am an east - - ■IIILIIrrI.YI .I�i.�rr.r/Yw hill merchant and directly involved as a neighbor where this sign would be. I am concerned about my motor lodge. (Looks at Exhibit 11) I have this problem in the motor lodge, that I as very difficult to find and you can see that my sign is recessed from Exhibit 11. I an afraid that another sign would make tt more difficult. I had been advised by Mr. Orcut from wham I bought the property that it was his understanding that was the and of the commercial sone and at that time it was all clear looking' ' up the avenue. I might also state that Mr. Sady requested a variance, you will find that it was for another kind of stere. I felt that a different business would have been an asset. I did not know what the variance wA a for at the timet that it was for a liquor store. I as definitely opposed to this now that I have seen the" exhibits. HAZEL WIBSRt I an Mrs. Hazel Weber and I have a very nice home at 302 Collage Avenue. I object to a big sign there too because I think it will spoil all those houses through there. I can't see but what a sign this also would cood ` over the sidewalk because Mr. Sedy•s store Is -pmostically right up to the sidewalk. MR3. JOSEPH WN: I want to say that at the time we applied for a variance for the liquor store that I wrote the letters and mile them out and my husband went to every one in the arms a told them it was to be a liquor store and it was the ft at one and that we had the first idea of the 1# oto**4 I also want to call attention to the fence next to our house that is blocking the view of our store window, t6it was erected without a permit. Exhibit 6 here depicts a fence blocking the view of my store window on the north side and it was actually built without a permit. The store goes back into the building. MRS. ANAQNOSTs I must amplify that issue. The situation on the fent* was dat it was build because the house was in such dis- reputable condition. People complained about the feat* and on investigation a letter was written to at tky the Building Commissioner, that if I lowered it 24 inches I W15- would be in compliance. When Mr. Sady completes his work, thaw I can lower it. This is my fence. I do have a record on file that it most come down 24 inches and I shall see that it is done. MRS. WIS": When I signed Mr. Sao's petition I did not realise this was going to be a liquor store.` CRAMI This to an application for a sign. MR. SADY c When I approached them I told tie exactly what that store was going to be. NR, VAN 1lSTUs Mr. Sady approached me in regard to a permit to *root a sign, &ad it was only then that he discalsed that rather than being re-coned he had been granted a variance pr*vi ously. this is the Implication of the sign • it was out; at this time that he discovered that along with the business there was no permit for a sign which he con- sidered adequate for the business. Gs. Ii111i#3I11I; ' Nov* now to adjourn. Second. th}ani�c+us. Ct?ME SISSION, WARD OF WING Al FRALSo APRIL 129 1466 W. I2JMI We are now in order. I recommend that insofar as the ground rules are aosoorsods lot us discuss the matter, and argue the potato sag oursalvas, and then tales a vote as the result of a motion and arrive at a finding at that time. Gentleaea, do you approve? Unanimously approved MR. i iN,: Let us consider Case. No. 676. 1#R ,�tAEAV qts !love that we grout the variance because It is currently of comoarcial oocupancy; the location does not lend Itself to anything other than cemrsreial oeoupaaeap and certainly a hardship is created a& the para of the present owner because of the sewage preblow, !touts 13 and the fact of ceasrcial occupancy on either side of the premises* to try to sell it for R-3 now occupancy. 115. 8d1.1.1IMIs Second. Votir s�,s 6 irrrrrrs Ye - ureasur. �.rrr. nr rrr rrry rirYr'l r� lam. CMrl1 11111t: let us so" on to No. 6776 Grossmato of Control Mew York. on the sign of 250 square Meet. lllf. l&JO-00-3s Move we approve the 250 square footage for the reason that it is In conformity with the existing business of Grosswsnla at this location and in aonforoity with the business area and within the total squaws footage authorised for approval by the Using hoard, and that the specimens of the sign are in conformity with the Unign ordinance. MR. ZWAMICKIs Second. Yount; Yea 5 leo � 1 .ver..r.r�.��ir.r.....r.r.r.+..-w..nr.� �P -17- lit. t ► t i#o. 679. S, NN ILMI Now to grant the appeal, firat, as to intorprstntion, that the house be peroitted, there betas as specific provision that it can not be granted; and for the . exception, that the rear of the house ob.Wtbm built . no closer than four feet to the eaat Sot line. NR. s second. Vot$ass Yeas -tri o -2 Nom.. RAXAMi The case is No. 679 - request for special permit, Joseph Sady. DR._$MO Would move that we grant this request with the provision that the sign not be larger than 20 feet overall dimn- sion; grant for the reason that he obtained a vorismoe before and it is felt that the sign should go along with the veriamoo; also, esthetically, a larger sign for that site of structure would preclude s larger alga. N "V . ®tia�t: Yss - 5t No 1 MR. w#�AV11tRs Notion to adjourn. B. phs Second. Unanimous