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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMN-BZA-1966-05-02 DW8 O WVWG APP1G Uv CIBC LL* I? Ai MW YOU VAY fad, 19#6 MMUC W"IRC PRg!l : RAUH P. WO21 v Acting Chairman JOHN fi"IC.ICI Wmis a. alp C. MUMY VAN *AT=* Uilding Commissioner, dbexetmy IALPR H. R lL =19 having boom elected ACOUG Chairwan, IyEY , s The meeting is called to erftr, We have a few ground rales. Any one may spook for or against any of the appeals. the would like to have the appellant sp*&kl first, and than, say sm speaking will please identify himself by Paws and a4diress, The first case is that of Joseph Rbc#tion, Case us, 674, to *vett a sign at 336 Elmira Read of a diwansisa, requiring appwoval, 1 district, under Seeetion 30 Colow 4. aN Mum I awe Joseph Morrison. Sib Elmira lead, Clover Club lbestaurant, and I have brought wtth no photographs of the asighImmkoed seed of our front elevation. ,Appel loot t s Exhibits 1 through 3 marked for identi fi- cotion. I also have the working plan which is not marked as an exhibit, This is our present sign 4d*b Is too stall for the eaviromment, I weight say that the Competition In our line of busismas is ss boon that a larger sign is psesotiaw ly a necessity for goad identifiostlen. The sign we have we have bad for two yeare but in view of the increasing competition In the neighborhood we feel we have need of a larger sign, We have bad a number of our friends So right by when they were looking for ass without seeing the present sign. It is a low building and not wary prowiwmt, especially when you own free the vast, NR_. MS You are saved i-1. You are up is 50 sgaase feet +rad can be up to 230. MR. VAN INTSgt ?his is 80 square feet. _F4 SOARD OF 5011=6 APPIALS, CITY li "t Imo, INV YORK - MAY 2nd, 1966 POUC UNARM P�g)g!Ita Sl WH P. SALDWI, Acting Chairman a11Q1N`lrt'll«f Y 18kYXR RICHARD t3 >K JEW 1lMANICI WILLIS H. RMW C. NORRAY VAII WAR=S Building Commissioners, Secretary 14ALPM F. SALIN 19 having been olected Acting Chairawn, The sooting is called to order. We baa* a few Stemod rules. Any our way speak for or against any of the appeals. He would like to have the appollant speak first, and than, any one opoaking will please Identify hiwwelf by now and address. The first case is toot of Joseph Norriaon►, Case No. 674, to erect a sign at 336 81a#ra Read of a dimension requiring approval, I- diatriot, uwwislr Section 7, Column 6. Jowl 1!2&IMe Iane Jus*pb Norrisen, 336 Klaire Read, Clover Club Restaurant, and I be" brought wtth in phetog ropha of the wei`dhborbeod and o our front *legation. Appellant$* >t bibits l through 3 marked for identift cation. I also bavo them working plan uktah is not marked as an ehhibit. This to our present sign *oh is too wall for the onvirament. I might say that the Competition in our lis* of busiweae is so keen that s larger sign is practically a socoaaity for good identification. the sign we have we have had for two years but in view of the inoreasin& competition in the aeighbo rhoed we feel we how need of s larger sign, we have land a number of our friends go richt by yrs they were looking for us without swing the present sign. It is a ton building and not very pvom1*&nt, especially vAnn you come from tha Wit. �i You are aoaed I-1. You are up to 30 squame feet and can be up to 330. lam. YAR WOMt This is 80 square feet. Int jjJAVE&t What about the location on the highway? (bootie at sketch of proposed sign) ma. IBR ENI: This would be supplementary, with a noon border which rrr.rrrlYlr�r111rM.rtlr� we would like to haws flashing, of the color red. MR W�AVIRt Measurements of the existing sign? r i rur..arr. A. Approximately b by 4p back from the highway 23 feet and 50 from either lot line. Yes, we meet those specifications. dR, yt>CI ; Would this be 111 einsted in any wap? A. Yrs, lighted at night with a neon border to go on an off. MR. M It hots any other member of the Board have any questions of qtr. Joseph Morrison? Does any party in the audience wish to speak OW. or against this petition? None. .3. MR. Ciii1,_,�Ms This to Case No, 680, Appeal of Albert C. Wood, of 444 north Tioga Street, for a permit to build a one family dwelling at 502 North Aurora Street, w1werein the proposed lot does not conform with the vqquirements of rection 7, Columns 7.8 and 11. I believe lir. Wood Is have. A� C. E201 My asaw is Albert wood and I bave lir. Vincent atorda' o here with me. Vincent Giordano, 57 Woodcrest Avenue. What i eould like to do is build s one-story single family dwelling at 502 North Aurora Street. This is the lot at the corner of Forma Street, the old Caakl'in 8aai tartum, which was destroyed by fire. Mr. Wood 116wthe neighborhood very well and would like to erect a one-family dwelling. This vould have a masomil basement, a frame home, Interior oak, plastered, the exterior of redwood slo .. t Will there be a garage? A. At this tins, no. 'There would be place for a ear port. tgt. tiEAlt Nm do we fIt on these specifications? M8. ZAN T111ti Lot at" square footage required, 5040. We have 3906. Minimae street width, 50 required. We have 464. For the proposed building the maximum percentage of lot cover to 43%. We have 39.5:. one other thing might enter In. It Is proposed that this house be faced ,on Farm Street. This Is a choice the owner has and if so, the mintoom lot Width wawd not be an exception. .� . OHNE = Be any members of the Board have questions? None. Would any one like to speak: for or against? Ii MIN IM11 450 North Aurora Street. I would like to knew what this is for. (Looks at sketch) bell, I have now looked the plans over and ass wry such for it. MR. CNAANs All right, thank you. MR ICHAIRNMI The next Is Case No. 6829 Appeal of Mrs. Gilbert Web r, 206 Texas Lame, Ithaca, Now York, ftr a building permit to erect a building at 402 Third Street. Variance and'exception requested In that the proposed use is not permitted in Sone I-1, Section 7, gels 1, 12. Is Mrs. Webber here? MHS. G1 &T' WB$BIs I am Mrs. Webber, 206 Texas Lane. Mr. Bruno Masan Is representing ole here and I have a copy of the notice as seat to all the neighbors within 200 feet as required. • Mit. CHAIR r All right. Mr. Massa? Mt. MAMI I think that all the Board membore have a copy of the memorandum submitted on behalf of Mos. Webber for this proposed variance and exception, Mr. Gilbert Webber died just bout a year ago usexpeetedly end Mrs. Webber has succeeded to the business. As to the paper, she proposes to take all of this from the front yard and put it under cover. The plans have also been filed, wherein she plans and proposes to add as addition where the junk yawed is not permitted, but now exists. (Shows pians of proposed addition) And she proposes to put an 8 facet solid fonco around the whole lot. MR.CXAjj l Do the Board member* have any questions? None. MR. CM1XXW— t is there any one hero to speak for or against this r�YI.Y.Y■ I V . appeal? ASTgQNX PAINOs Yea, I an Tony Paine, 413 Hudson Street, and I as here at the request of the Victory Markets. They haw $Ivan as a letter stating their objections to granting a variance in this particular area. (Submits letter) MR. "his Ars they awave of the proposed fence? A. I dos not know. (Letter read by Mr. Chairman) MB. CHAiMM; This apparently just raises an objection to the TIMI 1 111�r existing facility. JOHN P. SPOS' t am John Sopos, 316 Third Street, Immediately scut of the Ithaca Junk Yard, and I protest any variation of the original code. .g M. CHAIR : Are you aware of tht proposed 8 foot fence? A. That will uAtG do the trick when there is iron beeped up 50 or 60 feet now and fire and smoke in the area. ROGER BA: SftTT: I an Roger Bassett, 312 Fourth Street, representing Lake View Dairies. We as a food processing plant =Intal& that this junk yard should be cleaned up and that a fence be put around it or else that • it be removed. tom. WB IIVRit: have you seed the plans for the fanea? A. Not sir. I have not. MR. CHAD: Anyone else? FL $ S: 316 Thi-rd Street. I have lived there since 1946 and there has been smoke, garbs$* and nuisances a+ac3umal,ating all those years, and nothing has been done about it. We have a white house and keep our pores ;. clean. iia pay high taxes. I think I am speaking for a lot of other people. I think a city dump is better than this junk yard. I think this Board shotld' drive down there and look at the place. It is a disgusting mass. Ia CANOMM: I am Lary Carrican, 315 fourth Street. Our back yar goes towards the junk yard and we have to look at this eyesore every day and there is smoke all over and we just can not keep putting up with this all the tire. We try to keep our property clean and you don't like to got up every day and look out at a mass ail the time. MR. WEAVER; Do you feel the fence would be as improvement? A. The way the junk is piled up now I dont know how a fence would ever cover it. TR MASS CA ICAN: I ave Tomas Cervices. As fair as that junk yard is concerned they constantly burn stuff and wry wife has clothes on the line and you get all that smoke from it. We would like to have something dew for it. You all come down and take a look at it. I should think that something shoal be done about it. MR. !.#V V91: Do you feel the fence would he an improvement? A. 'hell, We not been improved yet. You can nide down and take a look. -6- MR. SMfMCK: Do you fool it would be better without a fence? A. It would be better without the ,wink yard. Q. Bettor without a fortes? A. No. M![. W AVERt As I understand it, the gunk yard *&a continue its business? • NE. 9 I "Tat They are a nonconforming use. The addition of a building is considered an extension of the building. MR. !%&VRRt In view of the fact that we can not stop the building there, do you fool it is not an improvement? A. A. Aro, it is not. 1+i8. Cm Do you understand that she wants to gather up all of MrrwirrrY +r.r� these papers that have been blowing around? A. It's not only the papers. MR. Ct6 T The thing they are appealing to before this board is for an improvement to the Zoning Ordinance. If we mta that she can not put this building up and she has to put this fence up, do you feel it won't make any difference? A. No, I feel it doesn't make any diffe renes. It*s been there 70 years. It's time for the gunk yard to got out of town. When does the license expire for a junk yard? MR. CHAIRM US I do not know. It is not a case of hardship. It is not within the power of this Board to tell her to got out. We do not have that power. A. Is it up to Cowmen Council? M „G11I : I do not know. We can not toll soars one to close their business. We do not have that power. She is asking here for permission for an improvement. A. We vigorously oppose any type of improvem at in that krea, t y'` t Sbt O mug, eat trE` tks Fourtb ,frost#' I bsV4 .1 tv" *OUVt lkl s� and it I s a v0ss. . Ytfu n taut wean visth amt.i� Or* acorn rat sowth ia* m0l is ,$*vdbli. A'Rd tbm O srmaad the Aouaw. A., WATER: 'Fuld any of tba p ropond ch os t*QA to I*dw* o; of ishares aetnoyarsoss? �. is That is the parpo+se of putting op tbo sant build1r4* 'ih*f Woawr Son cos s psndt to burn tha oxistiftg cars and not to buy any om. so uken this burning 'gyp Is over thors will bo no swe burntap,. CMIR1: This is Case 80. 683, the appeal of Jack To nsend Chevrolets Inc.* 413 8lmi.ra Road, icor a permit for oacupowy, an exception requested in that the building is not located on the lot to conform with the re- VAftwats of Section 71, Colon 12. is there any one here to .speak for this? VILMOT 01�7s I as the builder of Jack Townsend Chevrolet Geroge on the 8lavira etoad. We are about 32 foot from the conter live of the. hi shvoy. The $tate requirement Is Sfl feet. At the ties Mr. Townsend had his property :> surveyed for title, we found w ver* lutti sum— the City ruling of the iQ foot set back. We are 1.6 behind the lime with a glass shote rooms on one, sides and 2 feet l Inch on the other gide. The goad goes at a aurae. tb* glass shone room to 'forward. The root of the building. is back far enough. .g_ 1tik. CR41 tt The next to Case No. 6879 Appeal of Ithaca Savings and loan Association to erect offices at 306 North Tioga Street, Exception requested, to that the propos d location on the lot does not conform with the require- ments of Section 79 Column i2, for a ;3-1 atone. Who is here representing the Ithaca Savings and Loan? 11 OF* i3'CQDiNDit I an representing the Savings and Dara, and my addres is '112 The parkway, IthacA, New York. Mr. Chairman* this is an applicadon by the Savings and Loan Association for an exception under the Boning Ordinance. We started a proceeding about six weeks ago and at the heating a month age a quorum was riot present. Since that time aj$bston*tal change has occurred so we discon- tinued the old proceeding and oVartod a now one. The scale purpose of this application is to obtain an exception farm that portion of the: ordinance, whish requires a 10 Foot set back in this district on the front of the property. This property is at the northwest corner of Buffalo and Tiosa Streets. The Proposed building provides for 4624 square Feet on the ground, and we will haw the architect describe that in a few minutes. This represents the minimum re- quired for an efficient operation for a banking Institution such as this. It Is also necessary to provide customer parking, and I aur that Mr. Yen Mortar has the building plans there for your inspection. I trust that the members of the Soard have seen these plans. By erecting the building as we propose on thii plot plan* It will allow for adequate parking on the west and north sides. 1 spoke a moment ago about a substantial change in the situation* and that chove is that we have now entered into contract to purchase the Max" property, which list to the north* And by so doing it squares up the lot. We provide for 9 boot clearvmce on the Buffalo Street aide and of course on the north side we have clearance of about 33 feet, and there is adequate clearance in the rear. T want to emphasize that in order to got the parking which is necessary, this Is just about the spot who" the building must be. If it is moved back for the 10 foot set back in front, than it becomes difficult with the parking in the rear and would probably require wider spaces and angle parkinS9 with the result we would lose three or fear parking spaces. If we were to go north then we cramp the parking as shorn on this plan on the north side. I think that the .10- spirit of the ordinance will be maintained if this exception is granted. We are complying with all the requirements of the ordinance except for the not back on Tioga Street. ite are complying on the north; the height conforms; the percentage of lot coverage is met; and the sole exception is the set back on Tiogs Street. Along that line I might any that the Professional Building next to the Massa property is new closer to Tioga Street baa we plan to to. We are providing for a S foot set back. The portico of the Court Howse is bus about in line with the professional Building. on Buffalo Street, on the other side of Tioga Street, the new telephone building, f think, is S feet or less back from Buffalo Street. In order to understand this, I have sow pictures which might show the situation a little batter thaw►► I can describo it. AppsllantIs Exhibits 1 through 13 marked for idostifica ten There would be 18 parking places in all, 12 on the west side and 6 on the Mong lot. In regard to the Planning Comeoission*s reports we expect two-way traffic on Buffalo Street. an No. 2, we do expect at some time in the future to have drive-in banking, to have a drive-in window, and the cars would have to come in here on Tioga Street on the drivers' side. MR: Cake, H. ; Your plans are not at present to part the drive-in wind the"? A. Not at the present time but it will probably come in to future. Now I sae.going to have out archttoct speak w►lt y©q* alyL derr.rrr�A1 l an Raul de Armas of 121 Blest Buffalo Street. Gfttle , irrw. M1w. - I want further to explain the reason for this particular site plea. We era providing for the Savings and Loan what we can call a minimal situation. The awes of the building could not be any swallor; is foot, other similar building have 20% more area. The interim of the the building requires the propostions as bore now. one central space makes it possible to do this. One space serves both functions. The way we have the parking bore is a minimal requirement. Ori the north there is 33 foot from the building line to the and of the property and that allows for a 4 foot planting bed, which is also to protect the buildings, which will be to a grant extent. glass. We have taw planting around so it will be better situated as far as the sidewalk goes. On the rear we have a 44 foot -il- depth for the parking , which stain is a recommended minimal arrangement. This building has two equal entrances, which is important to its concept. You can. see the sidewalk could not be any larger, and stain, the smll curb of the std' walk and the 4 feet on the sidewalk will protect the building from oars going u against it. Without the proper protection s car could amok into the building on the north side of the property. We felt that by providing planting around the building and setting it 5 feat on both sides the spirit of the ordinance is not changed, which will provide a certain setting sad hawing a certain amudC of greenery. The dissensions of the building are very important to it. we can not change the square footage without hurting the interior central space, whit to lb feet in width. The parking is a vital part and we have done all we can to provide a minimal parking situation for the dimensions of the lot. Is- ' rr s I neglected to say that our agreement with Mrs. Massa i wi�rrrrr is that she will continue to occupy her house until January lot, 19", so whit the Massa house will be removed, it might very well be six months after the building is completed and we would be in operation. We would want to put the footings on the building in the 5 foot area. They would be cesplately under- ground. MR. CWlkl s Schen you get the drive-in window, you anticipate one-way traffic from Tioga Street? A. Sntrance from the driver's side. Q. What is the width of the Mesa& property? A. 34 fest. "There would be 14 feet from the building over to the Moss* house. Q. When do you figure on occupancy of this building? A. We hope f or a year f roan next sumeaar. MR, M-U!ll I Thank you, gentlemen. Is there any one for or against rrriwrrr arra this appeal? NMI Appearing for Christine Mossa, 316 north Tiogs Street, in favor. -12- WILL SC—Orr: I an Willi** Scott. Vice President of the Board, YMCA. The Beard is in favor of this with no objections and do not fail it will vary from the general character of the neighborhood. ,DAVID� ARTMs Representing the Now York Telephone Company, who owns property scress the street, southwest corner. We have no objection to this proposal. Thank you. Y R,M,;,,.„ ;as-0 e I gust mart to slay that I have b—:the privilege of working with this architect ou many projects. He has wally worked on it and buns looked at all the angles. -13- XXXCIUTM SRSSION, BOARD OF WNMG APP , MAY 2nd, 19" MR..P;AVAANI Discussion of Cast No. 674. MR. �AliRtt Move that we grant the request to 674 aim* the sign Mt* dues not seem unrese4nabier for the neighborhood. Wit. C#M8'TO R3 Second. MR. I would like to have you emend your motion so that the signs be combined into one, se that it does not set a precedent. MR. MOO: Hove to rescind the motion. MR. CE BT0C1€I second. MR. 'WELf►VBRI Move that we grant the request in No. 674 since the s#g sise requested does not seem unreasonable for the neigh berhood, with the provision that the ,length of the pro- posed neer sign by increased so as to coincide with the outer edge of the existing sign so tb4t the and result' gives the of feet of a single sign. MR41 PWMxt Second. WT IMP Yes - S gu $ base No. 660 for discussion. ice. 22M6'f+11 Move we grant the request in 680 for the reason it would be In keeping, with the rest of the neighborhood and any increase to residential pr+apetrties is highly desirable for the ceawun ty. MR. 091991 Second. VOTIM Yes - 5 .14- MR. ia-MR. ! ws No. 682 HL MANM s I mve that we grant the variance for the reason that the yard exists pis an unsightly area and that the in- proveamts proposed will alleviate or SOVW to the bebefit of the neighborhood. However, this variaaesa is granted subject to the following provisions 1) To the present owner and operator only; 2) That the S foot fens be installed; 3) . That there be no burning of any junk after the termination of the present burning pereit; and that the exception for a 6 foot set back be granted In which area the owner make an atteeept to plant out the fence. M s Second. MMS Yes - S i i=rlr i�r�i�• No. 683. ldR. 8AIO3s lbws to grant reguost but that we grant this with extrom reluctance, but concur with the Elannieg fiord s roeom endations that economic hardships exist which ae`e created by the owner and/or the builder, and were con- sidored; that the parties concernedshould be fully aware of the potential hardships in the future If read widening to aonsidersd, and that excess aorto from any such action should not be boram, by the public. Second. VOIIPGI Yes - 5 .15- MR. SH Mx No. 687. MR. WANlCirt¢ Mow that the exception requested be granted is view of the fact that in carefully reviewing the require- ments of the Association sad titer permanency of the In- stitution and the proposed building, that this exception appeared to be reasonable. - Imo. mms Second. VC? Z t us - . VIORx z Move that we new ad j ours and that we moot on May 129 at 7330 P.M. for the conal.derat i on of two eases.: Second. BOARD OF 30=0 APPRALS, CITY y %Uj I?RACA, M PORK • *AT 129 it" Pt 141 NNARiwo PRS s MONS R. Pf'ANS9 JA., Acting Chairman RALPH P. VALDtN1 Q]i0i'"f'm WRAVU JOHN SWIM WILUO H. RIOAD RICHARD COMSTOCK C. MURRAY VAN 10AR1'RR9 Building Commissioner, Secretary Notion by Ralph 8aldini that George R. Pfroa,* Jr., serve as Acting Chairw►a; motion second by Ria bond Comstock; Secretary casts one ballot for 0000W R. piano in such capacity$ that nomi nati ons be closed. V'ot i ng i 3 - 'yids. !IB- LAY s Case No. 684. Appeal of T. H. Parker,, has been postponed to the tint Monday 1st Juesae, send such matter will be published Win in the legal aetiaes. GION R R. PFAW, JR., having been elected Acting Cleiii ftft ca, We will wo hear Case tone. 688 - Appeal of D & D Ithaca Realty Comp+ney, Inc., 446 Triphommov Road, Itkasa, New, York, for an Interpretation for use ender Section 70 Colums 2 and 4, and an oweption muter Col mass 13 and 14, For a proposed mercantile utile and ""too facility in a 3-2 giatrrict, 214.316 blest State Stet. We will beau the applicant and any on who wishes to spatia In faver, and thou guy of tbosee who risk to speak a lust Ni l l any one who is going to speak, first give kis mama and address for the record. WON N AIfDi3IT I an presenting the aase for the D A D It soa boalty Company, Incorporated, bels: prresidennt of such corporrat`# with address of 406 Tripboommorr Road. I meld like to presoot the case for my company, wbicek has cede an applic - tion for a building permit, located at 314-216 West Stake Street. City of Ithaca, We here been notified ley the Superintendent of Public Storks in a memorandum that our appeal which calls for a curb out of 116 fort on Ne>rth Albany Strsrt, must be as" to the mrd of Public Works it is his ruling that the plan is for in excess, of the Sammift standard uridtb of dartMa my openim gss and his Department recommemistiong the Board of Public Worts, is that thio be dented. . The Board of Public Burks is supposed to havo met yesterday temrsnder a ruling as implied by the Super intendant of Public Workss but they were unable to scat due to the desth of a - 111 -r of the Super,iatondent*s told ly. I do not know as of now whether the Board las made any recommendation as fret. M. VAN Mona None. Then it vary be out of order for me to plead this can Inasmuch as re do not have that ruling by the fk►ard of Public Works at present. « SFAS Your oars, has been evert down for this time. We can pr and if Mare is any ours to appear to represent any other aroup they may do so. 20 M: I am Bob F l uarerf let and an hero for Mr. Dingman and ro- prresent the Department. ChA:#lt i a Mr. Abbott will preasat his ease first and Mara you my speak, R., A�,1It�TT S first of all. I do moot knout if It to quite proper for this Board to l istrn to the hi.stery of • place of puppertys ba I would like to give a background. I as sure you an all fawiliaar with the buildlo$ just tom clear on Albany and State Streets. After several months of Intense negotiations with the company of whiob Does Phipps is a aubsidtory, I was able to o9foot. an agreement with than that they wsurl lease from my company a state to be built on that side o the street where a property had been for 120 years. At the time we wave negotiating mfr attorney *We a survey ov looked over the district regulations chart. This is in 3-2 &area. We received a memorandum at the ties from the at- terney, stating that he assures us that the proposed use Is permissible under the Zov*tg rules of the City of It -3- At for boat we worm negotiating for the store, at the tiva the awebi tact was dravriw the plaxw, we did haus as a f to r plan, 4000 square flof retail selling spars, six alto« motisa bay# for rouitleea work, tires, oboages, egtipmsot, but Got body work for e=ars. Vs were also 1648otiatlat with the Pato: of Now York to build for them a `lsaility to bow" their eeeplsfewent a soda, an office as wall sa auotbor faoiiity, with an, office of gamial sertrioes, which they we" attaeeptln to find for two depanvients that have offices 1% tttbft,&. we draw up plass for a two- story beet 141tg to be erected there.re. tt< was also our is- ttention if we could set this to buy wbust:avor adjacent load we may used to most the rogulstions of the xsn mg law. Wortaeataiy ire 414 met bear from the state for wrath a after talkin# with thou. We had drawn top all tbae plains fox a two-story building sad wa resolved a letter statists ghat mor* time was arsedod to sewlW* the nogotiatlovw perk- tEairhin4 to their loosing tvm met. Ve had is to ahead with the patpeos, could aft Veit, and applied for a building peroit en April 29th, and subsequently we were notified that the building that we bad proposed woes a aon-oeaf">it W4, use wed that is the reason for my being bar* tools tt. l have to appeal this case an the grounds that hardship has, on. clued as a result of this ru lid„ secs# would also "ll yow, attention to the fact that to the City of Iths" it it, ditfloult. to got say teener to clava in and pay the prloo any aoustxuction eatalla. They Leede a very thorough suer r of the cownnswity so It was with joy that we wave nstilir d by the Dean Fbtipps Stores that they would like us to build a building for nano at 214.216 west trate, Wrest. The plass are► have on the table. „MI AD 'here ae^it two shoots of the plow? 11 yes. M O.WMa hat to ekeotguatae those is so" way. Appellant*s gXblbits A & So nsnsiatiag of two ahsot;, asrked fee idest if ieeati es. .4- .,tea t night add at this paint that because we hand failed to boar frm the State of Now York on the 22nd of Apei 1 l roti f iod the architect that be would have to :wise the astir* building plan and reduce the sine of the building frois a tors-:rorty structure. As mora as the plant were ready we am* in for a building p#vmit, which aaeeomnts for the time, boa ntoh tins elapsed frOMI the tint the aotua►l building application was mels. The lot is 30 by 195. The building occupies the entirree width but not the sative depth. a�f 1 e tier 1 under Colum 2 is iatorp rotation► and bas to 4* with s1-2 districts asking for an interprot-stiann on the service area. We have a gas station in a E4 where they are offering ovorgthing except gataolinos as this is an interpretation for use. Muter Column 4 we aro liwitiag to 25 square fast. # iltb t „ m ?be plea of the firm floor ►. Thous is 9 feet l Inch show between the show window and the property line. This is a covered area covering, cowed by the roof that is froo of any other encumbrance. The Trent of the stove t book 3 feet 1 inch from the edge of the sidewalk *sole by the roof, and two wing malls and they cones within 3 Inches from the lot line. This viers is the part of the building with a sign approximately 30 to 35 squame foot Lim area. The ride on the corgi of $tate and Albany it a similar sign of mallear also. Over the service bay ohms there are several signs and they would be of appmstmeely the some sine as on the front of the building, plane the identification of the boys. They give an Indication of the type of service to be tendered. t mold *all att • tion to other stgas in the vicinity booing similar'diap s. The signs orae substantially flush, it not actually flush 3.3,.. the sides of the wail, applied to the aid" as part of t finished :yell. Column 12 i•s an exception of the front d1wousioa, the requirremat being 10 and the plan showing the actual windows in the farts of the buildings 4 fest, 11 inabes. Column 14 has to do with the side yard requi t Bch is met in fail on the west side by OW-balf 0 right of vay, se the anception hes only to do srlth the 6404 yard dimension exception. x feet is required by the ordt eeeuaoae. M e liM l Do any members of the Hoard be" any questions? MR. 20MI Flow fat from the property line to the opoluso of the service bays? actually an the property 1104 inside the sidewelk, o"r bead doors electrically opsrated„ a 10 moot door. The total curb out is 116 feet and the parking rear 48 by 30 ..•�..1oifAlr'is 1s the drivewy an the east? .... .. This was considered in fir. Tallman0 s exominotion. The only way this could have been aaoctwlishod was to a"nit* oddD. do nal land to the "at. The" is only a 10 to 12 toot right of way on the east side of the building so it esul be Impossible to make a circle. How about the cars in the pawking lot- in the book? A. You would not be able to da that. Q. Did you playa to have an exit on Stats WOW av A. Not It exists rum as a aright of tipsy. this is omood by five property owners. Incidentally, the Oce building is similarly built# right to the property Use. a Mg. 11111 a Any other questions by the Hoard? ; for bow long has 0 Ali owned this property? I sore on 84tibit A the property tins on the side vbw e the bays are - is that wtiere the dated description roes to? i Yeat in toot the four dation noes right steag theme. ?bore is a question now of about 11 inches of property an that . block from Cons" Street thm"k to Alba" Mest that does net seem to have been conveyed to oar seer. . CHAi n& Whom is that line relative to the stre et# tU south property itao 15 foot fraw the curb neve. That is the $tuts llt"at side. Tree Albany Street line would be 10 feet from the o urb its,; 'i MI Any questiess froea ony son also of Mr. Abbott$ in tbo room at this Wit. Anything fmstber, Mr. Abbott? f 11 'it Ido not tbleek so, sir. . gwampt Any oao alai who would like to appear in favor of the application? mono. Any eat who would like to speak in opposition to the application? .M. .,,..; "# Robert Flumerfolt, 403 Denby Road, ropyesea Ung the Doparrinext of public Works. I M bars representing Mrr. Diagnafto who to unable to app4or tonight to behalf of the Department of Public marks* and I wish to empress those feelings vktsh ars the feelings; of the Department end not necessarily my ora. it is tho#!r primary wish that the varlawn not be grrameed, sed it is also their wish that the Board of Public Works act so th question of the ourb► opening before the Joarrd of Using Appeals mots on the variance. I think we meld topsstos the City as a unified body It we could do this to the proper warty. tf you grant the variance Might sad the question come to the Department of Public Works to grit a curb wing sad they did not wish too and the build: werebuilt on the side, you world have a six-bay bailed with no exit on the street. It would sooty best for the board of Public Works to Trot on the curb opening first o ail, and than the Boarrd of Zoning Appeals to rale on the variance. I also spook for the Department to the const - tion of traffic and pedostriou safety. ?be cepartment of Public Works is interested to the safety of the public i gonoral p motorists sad pedestrians. It was pointed out that those openings to the service bays ave only 10 toot free the property line with I toot between .seek door„ with lots of traffic to nerd out of the bays, and the view of pedestrians from the sidsualk is not go" when the bays aro so close to the posperty I ne. Widerr than normal driveway openings are psrrmittod in many iastonoos, but bon the traffic pattern to ditferrs t. Usually In oxit ag outembilos go terwarrdl this way they would back out. Via visibility around s gas station to usually good, you agar► s�• a" arra coning and going and oft judge wbotbov people are wiking post. The block longtb free (rate to Season Streot is quite short, with only a storegs capacity for too abtoeobil*s, the block being only oppvUlootely f,SO toot low. This in peak hour traffic could manse quite a serins ceagestion to traffic which is required t*- k out tate the moving straaer. our last traffic count far traffic an Albany Street was in ,July of 110" and during the peak War owns, 600 glue outembiles trr+e*l*d In both directions 3a that block between $tat* and Sesser, $tr*ets, and this in ons hoar reprosents about tem vebioles pov tt#nat*, so if the traffic Ila* is tied up for a ainate for care backing In and out, that mans that the block could bacon booked +gyp amend the corner and traffic coagsst+ d at intersection. ?heap are the main ooaoaeras of the Department of Public Worrks, traffic congestioa, pedestrian safety, and also lame a point of view of presenting • unified City doolotort in this mass*, it would sours the proper way would be forr tke Board of Public Works to Yule on the curb out first and then the Beard of Zoning Appeals to rule an the verisses. This would be their request, that tbo y be given the oppov- tuatty to deaid* on that first. ,.;film Ald you speak with Mr. Ding=* personally about this? A. Yang, I did. Q. That be ,as **weaned &beat %be safety of the people of Ithaea prirartly? A. Yes. lam. ttmS Whom will the Board of Public Vowks meett A. The watt see would be next Wednesdays the 1Zth. M. & l Ls I think the 35th is the text regularly sahodulod can. Bits go do I understood that you ark► asking the Board! of Zoning Appeals to taker action after the Department of Public Vftkst A. This would depend upon the scheduling of the Hoard of Public Works. I would think that a special meeting could be arranged by requesting this of the Board. This would require another special meting of this Hoard- f A. t do not kom'whou this Board meets. -A&MV on the first Monday of each month. -SfR. _ms t old like to submit that I bake heard tbose argaments before. I wound also like to set tbRt tbare to a traffic basard whenever anybebj applies for a building to the City of Itbaea. Tbove will alweyd be an element of danger svea if you just have a ourrb out for a ear coming out on the street. 'base dean are all closed, axe electrically operated and the amount of traffic from the service balsa has baton over•epb"Inod. I be" wstax that corner wow for several msntba and at the peak bores traffic terms hast up the bill, and at about 000 P.N. tbi traffic is reduced by Route 13. The Chief of Police staked got tbs" were 14 aooiaicnto since 190 an Albany a ad s State and cfreea end Albany and $see a. wMab is const blur less them on Vioute 13. Also, the people responsible in Ubs f first place for the Desin Phipps atese axe, all very Intel iigeut and highly developed people. The president was hovio , also the agceoutivo Vice President of the V.S, Itabbar Company. This is aka of thirteen facilities being built throughout the entire united States in similar locations I was told is a phone oo*versatioa that this question of hasard has come up in no other city. I tblak you are a„rer ampbasi#ing the fact. we *are not-pumplorg gas at al This Is ,dust for check up sad the cars would be mo vod by the attendants. I would glee like to gray that the hard of Public Works is also interested in the placing of utilities In the City of Ithaca. You have gas Mins In carder every sidewalk in Itbaea. Your also have utilities overhead and danger to over prreeemt. You mak net eliminate it wberovor you have traffic. if we placed this facility out an Denby Road to erre could girt there. (Roads from statement in Itbaas Journal) As I stated bet*"* I bevo mitt with objections In other locations and aone of the fears, have matcriatlised. No generate a lot of busivaso, ,brim essay otudsints dowtows. r im►f lot is boo +gwue" arI ahS Dori*med Idth arowd V s paartleul" araa. I vMd4 WOO to bm OW seaacraarsa t t sersliWd arolatiw to this liMUOR* hao b0ft dates sem plaft oloo in tam Sun docs wt anvot " paVtiGI&ur IOU I www d WOO to 400 Mar. rIOm $60 gNSOtdeatts. What if tha 1'iapau%00t salad 0100 VW OR tho OU*Aft aad • the hsaad of Zsrdad App"Is a .od than otbor W • it meald got *** allh Affovorwo vKoh ems ft"t aat 'Mb1sh omw soom ard. Vw *Or voasom it asold min a' dii"l9r you d bo It tha► BoaWs, diad a Ou had an *n)p*t an the votias of the memboll of We ids • I Mau tkb* that a td be the Oar %bift, 46 S* it still sdtbt be psssiblo for as to to ahead a# distetat you folks? Too# +oxempt Jnr tbo positiaat tkat would pact tlw Board of MU* ti+orks iaa►. I oast net an"" as t~ boar tbs Board oo"d ast it the ra aria r dam. Q« It vo Posted the xaxlatsO and , Board daaaated the owbUq# mit ghat bo Nr* wt's ppoWLse? I wood gu rommo, an lot there 4� Now vould Vw Dowd tool aboatt Umitlad Wo mamboar of bars to two or thsoo? Not spm fW the hoard but OW the Ospartimt of Pn buo WOAN, I aw on* thsaro would be US& ams, "a$. to eaa if an eta and aaaatt *add be ora ad in the bldlftag lot rather thm 4x boobsatslp from a st�a►t. ' „j ►: R*D* lhafte 39 s I an nwftw of Dm P� Vbm xr llumormt a" a SOVW was aado of that am at pooh hams Khat am Choy? 4130 to 5130 Pat. Q W44 aur sotrrtoo elapates 400 at 5100 PX ummr Su *"A** Mark is dew is tlao AMU art Va dao► S pa k haure crud hWrro .xwa►%Mmj,.to ds lith ow reach* r majoftly in Nes airs tl oU be baghod is *ad than am be dAv" out l llaa a, 9 and Vw" vii "woo bar so atw t ""mut at the IOU a I ds hada Ow oaaaant.f '6 rxuwrtalt did x**f*W to that poadbilitdr of tow .aRtth ft aadt is seaew Otho r aar * up. � e l:z- d`,this O&VOWIT sot it is ob+"s that a emir " In lemem and a lot 30 !bort "t it vftld be eK n" xlt if,, at Impossible U px rrh ,d .100 what you aero mo"« He did asuMme It vift #id s In alswo but t3M six bogs W* #a vonlAve. IA ! : r and kith Nr* Abbott at t" Wastes boto% Ithaaa- on tbo r&+,I i at gottift IIarm Phipps satormw tbto tooattss and the oar %him I +fa wa t Oft is Vat 3 beta bwa a mwb is of the Hoard for yomm a tbors to a oto budomp Owasod to tKO roopoot, that Vo was soul" ~on to ft" mor to DMro &M )&. 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