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.At P remjl .r meetir- of the Board of 7,onirg Appeals, City of
rtbacp , held, in '-ommon marc iI_ Cheambers , City 'Up I I Tthacp New
`,T ortC . on October �, 1.07r) :
PI:)_;'QTIITTrP -Deter lVartin Chairm,,)n
O-recror Kasrrzak
rear (71asteizer
John 'Roc3ine
nYarter
71(9_iSo- JryneS Puilding (7ommissioner,
Se(-retarir
Christine Smith, Recording Secretary
R I\T'rP 'jVp T-TO-LMp
'.hairmpn meeting; listing member!, of hoard. nresert
ar(9 stPt4_-_ Z that one member is absent and it takes -f,),)r votes one
1,'Tav or the other for an aT)-_)eaI and anyone to hoIJd their
case o7,rer to the reyt time in hopes of ha-vincr a full boa-d -present
may do so . This Poerd is o-Perq_-I-J_r_ Ig under the nro-N.risions of the
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-t7,, Charter of the '7itir of Tthacp. and. of the -orovisions of the
Zoning Ordinances; the Bop.rH shall -lot be bound bar Strict rules of
P�Fld_ence in the conduct of this hearing, but the determination
shall be founded upon sufficient legal evidence to sustain the
same . The Board requests that all participants identify themselve,�
as to name and address, and confine their discussions to the T)ertirt-
ent facts of the case under consideration. Please avoid extraneouJ
material which would have a dela7rinp: effect.
APP7AT, "Tn. 0-1-75 : The Anneal- of A.7. 9. for exception_ to section
6-B-1 of the Ordir)arce of the '-it,,r of
Tthp�p at 402 r. Cayuga q-treet in a 1-1--7 use
district.
AOT,r)" gentlemen, it' s lil,--e this . �,'e are a small 4
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T'.Te are new in to�,m . we have only been in town for a ve'RI .
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Our first -rear in tow , -we ?,,,ere hit and we found it OuIte hard- to
overate . _`To-v, we are at R little better location but unfortunpteI7
when ':Te l�rent in there , we didn't !, row 7-In-pt the zoning II'Ta Sin t"I'l e
Prep.. r' i+}j our rigyls- , we need our to make F. li-virla. "-cal]SE
?',e have to comnete a7pirst the ler e- karts stnrp-, that are on mal
streetc, -1,,T4_i.ch are re2di. I_7?- Seen Plfi() +hf?,7- h,-n,?-e been there 20 1,r(-8rz
or so . So . as a smpll "hugiress triri.r_,7 to compete 1-i +h the!ze bi_Z
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bu_--ine,s-ses , if we are limited. to R_ 1 Y 7 sign ,) I foot by , foot,
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1 we will never be able to make an existence , it' s just as simple
has that. So what we are asking for until later on when everybody
else has to com-)Ty with these small sign lays not to be held back
and held" from making a. livelihood. by a small sign because most
people don't know that we exist as -it is now.
To"p . Tfi RPITT: The memorandum that we have from the Planning Board
suggests certain conditions. -heir memorandum reads that the owner
and tenants remove the outdated extraneous and excessive signs from
the building. Are you prepared to agree to that kind of conditions .
M? . BA= LOI.`J: Yes, no problem there. Tn other words like the old
Montgomery Wards sign.
MR. MART N: Yes.
MR . BARLO : Sure, we'll remove them.
MR. MAPTTN: Are there any questions from members of the Board?
MR, GASTEIGER: ?,Ihat is the area of the sign that you put up?
FIR . BARLOW: You mean the size of it?
lT-- GA.STFIGER: Yes.
MR. BARLOW: Wlell what we have done is we used the old signs that
were on the building, lee didn't know what the law was on the sign
and vrhen T made arrangements to rent the building i asked the people
who vire are renting from if we could use the old signs and he said
sure , no problem. ',.'hat we have done is take the old original sign
that were on the building and T think that they are 1 foot by 8 or
something like that, T 'm not sure, no T think that they are larger
than that.
T/? JON-FS: T think that they are 4 by 8, T figure that there is
72 so. foot of sign_ on the bnil_din_M.
1:�ApLO?^': T 'm not sure of the exact size of th- signs because T
didn' t work on the signs myself.
n,?n PJARTTN: These are the old. signs . . . . . . . . . .
TIP- BARLOW: These are the old signs that were originally on the
building. ','hat we have done was -lust repaint them. There is one
sign hanging out front over a lawn area. trh.ich v!e used, which isn 't
on the building. Originally, years back T think there was a ga.s
station there and there was an old sign like a gas station sign which
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we have repainted that.
1'R. GASTFTGER: Did you know of the sign ordinance when you took
the signs down or whatever you did to them?
' RAS??O%': "To , T wasn't aware of what -it really was. T had aske
the _fellow that we rented the building from. . . . . . . going back a year
ago we had moved dovrntown into the Fontana' s old part store originlly
•.Thi ch sits way back in on Green Street. This is probably how tyre
got in as back as we did. `:°'hen T went in Fontana said use the old
sign, no problem so we used Fontana' s old sign and we were there
for a year and we never had any trouble. Then when we moved over
here T asked. the fellov! about the sign an-' T asked him if we could
use the old signs and he said sure you can use the old signs no
problems. So unfortunately I never thought to call the zoning
because we had to get a variance to move into the building to begi
with and this fellow had gone ahead and got that apparently. So,
we ,`lust assumed that it was alright to use the signs .
MR. M RTTM: Further questions from the Board members?
MR. VAIN ARTER: i hear two signs one 4 by 8 on the buildingand
one hanging sign (rrR. Y[ART'Iir) is that right there are two signs?
MR, BARLOW: There are two signs, there is a hanging sign. Tt' s
a much smaller sign, T would say it is about thr>, size of one of th
tops of the desk. Tt originally was on a pole like the old gas
station used to have a gas station sign on a pole , it doesn't hang ,
over the sidewalk or anything its on a area where it is worn like
where nobody walks on the side of the bank and we had used that si
too .
r.T.. MARTA?: Could we have i- clear what kind of sign you would
be entitled to under the sign ordinance.
MR. JONES' : 5 square foot of sign is all the sign that he is entitled
to according to the ordinance, it' s in a. R-3 zone .
MR. MART-TN: And your point about that is that it simply wouldn't
be seen in the location.
MR. RARLO': First of all it wouldn't be seen T mean 5 sq. feet, y u
talking about 1 by 59
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T-71' T[ T n' : It is a small sign to begin with and we are a, new
business in town we have been here a year but we never did very
much over the counter business because the only people that neer
that we existed tarere gas stations and the dealerships in town. ':Te
couldn ' t survive on gas stations and dealerships and that is why
we got into this other building. Tt was a. matter of we had to get
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a better _Location and when we got the location nollr of course, our
overhead has gone un and with the small sign here again, we can't
compete against the big marts stores which are on the main streets .
z,,,e are not on a main street we are on a side street. A small 2
foot sign, people driving by won't even be able to see it. it is
just another blank building nobody knows what it is. We couldn't
overate, definitely we couldn't operate because of the increase
overhead. The rent is so high renting the building, we are only a
small family business .
NIR.. GA.STEIGFR: in 1979 presumably you have indicated that you would
comely with the ordinance at that time.
MR-. BARLO?`T: Yes , in 1979 that will give us 4 years roughly to be
their, people would know that we existed then . Tare would have a.
certain established. clientele .
TIP . CASTEiGE'^ : So , you think the 5 square foot sign could serve
the need, if you are established and if the other businesses are
forced to comply with the Ordinance .
MTR BART,O``': T think that it would be fair J everybody in toun.
in 1-970 has to comply: T 'd. be tail ling to comply, there is no probl m
there . Rut in 1979 we will be. here for L years and neonl_e 1Arill
• know that T'm here . Yow T'm new there and people just don ' t know
that ve exist . 5�Ye have been in business for 5 years in Tompkins
County and for h or 5 years nobody neer that we existed. The first
couple years T+rP were in Newfield and the last year we were in
Tthaca.. Even when ��re moved downtown d.on)t think that neo-ole knee
the location of Fontana' s old hart store on Green Ctreet. That
building sits way back in. ':'e were hidden there . 7,1'ren with the
sign out front, we couldn't do any off street business which we
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need to make a luring. That bui-Tdin.g had a lesser rent anr'. we had
problems making it month to month from a smaller rent. Now we are
at a bTzildi.ng Tihere we have a higher rent but erre can make i t from
month to month because people k= that we exist right now. FiTTe
years or four years from now we should have a certain established
clientele where we can comply easier with the sign ordinance .
107. T,?a_gTT"\T; Are there further questions? Thank you. ?s there
anyone else this evening that would like to speak in this case firEt
anyone T•^Tho would like to sneak in favor of the requested appeal,
anybody who would like to speak in opposition? That concludes the
hearing on Appeal 9-1-75.
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FXECUTTVE SESSION, BOAPD OF ZONING APPEAL'S, CITY OF TTFi11CA
N7'l YOR?i, OCTOBER 6, 1975
APPEAL NO . 9-1-75
H?. K_ASPRZAK: I move to grant the variance . TNr. GASTETGER:
second that.
FTNT)II,TGS OF FACT:
1) Evidence presented tended to show business was a neer one at th s
location_ and conforming sign would not ?provide reasonable noti_ e
to the public .
2) The structure is a non-conforming one and the new sign simply
replaces older sign associated with former business and would
not have a detrimental effect upon the neighborhood.
This variance is granted with conditions that the signs relate
to former tenants must be removed and the signs will be brought
into Compliance with the Ordinances in 197P .
4) These conditions were agreed to by the appellant.
V07-IE: Yes - 5 !,.To - 0
Application_ has been granted.
PIOP.PT) 01' ZOTT.,�IC A_PP7'AT,.'_11 I�TT - PT-T I-TT LIP.T.,L)
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yop OCTOBER 6, 1-975
Commissioner Jones lists what case No . 1096 is to be .
APPF,AT, NO. 1096: .4T,)-neq1_ of Pobert and Carole Grover for area
variance at 144 F. Spencer Street in a R-7 use
district.
7, . P_-FMT7R. TIm Pobert Crolrer and T. live at 108 Pinewood Prive .
'-Je are seeking P irpri-ance to use an existing efficiency apartmlelnt
at 144 F. Spencer Street. TrTe feel that this in no way will change
the character in the neighbor-hood as alot of the housing down they
is rental property. T1m a property owner doi,,rn there , T have been
for seven years . T own the house next door and one across the street,
so T am concerned with the neighborhood in itself, Now, if we are
r,ranted this variance we will have to put in a fire escape and a
private entrance. Tf we are not granted the variance we will.. still
have to use the space on the third floor of that building, but we
wouldn't be required to put in the fire escape and the private
entrance.
I.M. MAIRTTN: Could T ask you your connection wit', the property on
which you are asking the varia--.ce?
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MR. GROVER: '.1T
e are in the process of buying it.
YR. P.IAPTTN: You are in the process of buying it?
n,T_ GROTEM : Yes .
T. T,yA_TITTI And that sale is contingentCD
on our granting a. varianc ?
N7. GROV7R: No, it is not. ado it is just in the process .
1,1R. TRARITTIT: So, that even if the variance is denied, 'roll are com-
mitted t-- go ahead and buy the property.
GROVEP : Yes , providing the banks will go along. The third.
floorT will have to use that space . 'hether it be for a efficien
• apartment or an extra bedroom or a rec room. So , if T am granted
this variance, T trill have to put a. fire, escape and a. private entran-
ce in there and it i,-Till make it. a much safer floor to use . So ,
in Closing T' d just like to say that if the variance iF -ranted
it will make the -n- operty more valuable because the City w411 get
a greater tax benefit out of it and it will be a much safer place
to occupy. the third floor of that building and no way will. _J.t
change the character of the neighborhood.
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T,111 . TILIT-111 You nroba.bly know that we denied a variance in Au.gu�t
of 1Q74 for this property, can you explain to us how the apartment
got up there?
T!R GRMVER : '':Tell . if an owner can occupy that apartment, in other (
words this a.nartment can be used owner occupied as T understand
it or the room itself can be used as a bedroom or a rec .room but
non owner occupied.; it can not be used unless there is a. variance
granted, do to lot size .
IJP . 1`14R`_T'TN: hat happened under the prior ownership? The varianc
was requested, -it was turned down, when was the space developed up
there on the ton?
T7 GPT-P : The previous owner intended on living on the ton
flop- and renting the downstairs .
IFR . KASPRZAT�: Tf T understand the case correctly, there is no
variance necessary for the use of the property.
M? IJ.ARTTN: Tt is a area variance.
MR. YJ SPRZAK: Tt is a area variance It' s not too important I
don't think whether there is one apartment or two, R-3 permits
other apartments.
MR . YARTTN: But only with lots of certain size.
MP . KASPRZAK: Ho<<r that apartment got there, T don't know mal[be
it is important, maybe not but what bothers me is why did we deny
it and T can't remember stirhy?
T-711. M RTT"T,. r.r �, f l 974_ T
�,.,, . ..e denied an ar..a. variance in August o� _ J , _heir
reouested area variance was exactly of the kind now being sought
as T understand the case.
MP . Tu,.SPT'ZAK: That was my next question. How deficient is the area
in terms of. . . . . . . . . . . . .
r' T,TnRTTnT; T mi ght read for the record at this point just since
the issue has come up, the Boards decision in that prior version
of this case . This is the meeting of August 5, 197 . Tt was
moved and seconded that the requested. area variance be denied.
Findings of Fact. "_'here has not been adequate shoi-ring that despite
the difficulties necul.iar to this property, that there are diffi_-
culti_es peculiar to this property to prevent complying with the
density requirements of the Zoning Ordinance . There has not been
adequate showing that the property can not continue to be used as
a residence with a single (1wel_ling it it. The discre-pancy bet',,reen
t17P required. lot si_ e for a second unit and the coverage required
by the Ordinance in this property is quite substantial . :finally
testimony showed that there was no on-site parking. Vote : 5-0
't�SPT'ZAV: Ts it a full ar_artment or is it. . . . . . . .
r. GpOVF'r : Tt' s an. efficienc�T apartment. X11 the lots on that
side of the street are very small lots . Three doors down there is
a. six unit that has no front yard at all . This property and the
property two doors down are the onlir ones on that side of the stre t
that do have a front yard.. "'his is one of the things that T need
a variance for is that the front yard is not big enough. All the
lots are small all the way down there through that side of the
road. The city owns the property in the back of it and to the
right side of it. There is a parking lot right there parking lot
and the 'Woolworths parking lot also qualifies for parking, it it
within 500 feet of the building.
MR, KASPRZAK: Did you attempt at any time to buy additional
property to make this propert..y comply?
n GROV71': ?,.Iell ; T need 10 feet in the front of the building and
the only thing there is , is the street so there is no way that T
could comely with this .
MR. GA.S71 TGTR: Your ad.-Ia.cent property that you own ,,could not
provide parking for this property?
r GP 01 1717"To , like sal, a_11 the lots are very small on that
street. TToirr, there i-s, a side -T=ard there that you could nark one
car in but that would i_l.liminate a narking snare on the street., too
So , you t,rouldn't gain. anirthi?'g T suppose as far as r)arki_n- is
corcerred..
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__ _ A._r_ vov goi.:.� to reside at that propertir or. . . . . . . .
vp rT?OTTEr) n.To sir, T am not .
rTARTTN: Tt is now clearly two l)nits, right?
GROVE'' ; Yes, there is an e_ffi_ci_ency unsta_
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room dournstairs .
r�ARmTN: Can 17-ou help me to understand z•:rhen the efficiency vias
nut in?
G?.0)T F: T 'm not to sure on that.
r,"? . JO'\TFS: Tt was about three or four years amo . Can T refresh
your memory a little about this?
T,In . MARTTr,T• Please do ,
T'Q . J07\7S: Jonathan. "Darker the son of the owner of the buil_di nm
when he got married. he ' s living in ,,-ith the family and inorder
to make things a little more compatible for the newly Ureds the'
decided their were Uoinrg to nut the kitchen up in the upper levels .
Then the father moved to Florida and. Zgve the building or sold the
building to the son. T'1hen he first talked about this thin-, he was
told then and there that he would have to come to the Board if
he ever wanted_ to use that as income property. as longi; as he an,-!
his parent lured in the house , we wouldn' t fuss about it. But as
soon as it had to revert to an income property where other than
the family resided in the house , then he would have to come to the
Board and ask for the variance.
NIR. MARTIN: Are there questions from members of the Board?
MR. KASPRZAK: How many people do you intend to allow to live in
that building?
MR. GRO,,rFn: Tn the apartment that T 'm asking the variance for?
MR. KA SPRZAK: Tn the entire building?
MR. GROVER: Tn the entire building, five at the most.
`T- "4SP ZAK: That includes the efficiency?
MR . GPOV7R: That includes both apartments.
TITR. GhSTTTGER: How many automobiles would you estimate would be
involved?
IT . GROVE?: Until T 've rented it , T wouldn't know.
T.M. GA:ST_TTGFP : 1%',ell, it' s possible five automobiles?
' GROVE-7: T t' s possible five, it' s possible two or one .
MLRm N: Further questions?
K.AS?RZATK: You did say that you j�rould buy that property whether
the variance was granted or not, is that correct?
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YP . CT,0,17 : Yes sir, and ? would have to coo someth_in-a with the
third floor either changP it into a rec room or use it somehow.
Tf the variance is granted there will be a. fire escape installed
and it will be a much safer place to live whether it be a bedroom
or a rec room or an efficiency anartmen-- .
YP , r.7ARmTN: TTot,T, what case can be made with the arguement that it
is an impractical, extremely difficult to use it as a rec room?
Tn other words to have only one rental unit in the place .
YP . GPMTT,7: ',Tell, it would be a lot harder to manage the property,
if you ba�rP a. month t,Ti_th nobod-y in -it there would be nothinU coming
i n, with a two unit place you 11-oul0. have something to carry it.
�T� . TTN: Further questions? `"hank you. Ts there anyone else
he-re tonight who wolzld like to speak on the requested variance?
anyone i*ho would like to speak in opposition? `'hat concludes our
hearing in case 1096 .
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7X7-TTTTI!7 q7qQTnn,T. BOAPD OF 7OT- T�ITC AIDP7,ALS, CTTY_ OF ITHA7A,
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_T71 YO-X OCTOBF," 6, 1975
APPEAL NO. 1096.
Mr- Martin L T
move that the area variance be denied. Mr. Bodine:
T second that.
FTNDTNGS OF FACTS.
1) There was no evidence presented that provided any sufficient
change in the proposed use since the previous request was
denied by this Board on Quist 5. 1974
2) The prospective new owners are buying this property with the
full knoT,Tiedge of the Zoning Ordinances and the Boards action
in the rrior case .
AF we found in the earlier case the discrepancy in lot size
for the second. uri-'- and the actual lot size is nuite substantial.
Tote : Yes - 5 No - 0
Application has been denied.
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ommissi one ?ones lists what case no . 1099 is to be .
n_rpeal "To . 101?8: Th.e appeal. of Jack ':ra.kefield. for use variance
at 102 Adams Street in an a-7 use district.
,aT'= WATj ,nT77 Tl: Nr (!}jai rt?lan, Sec1^P.tc'lr�r aYld mP.mbP,rG O E the Board,
trou w i I I have to bear with me, TIM.M. new at this Zoning business . T
asked for a variance to the code for the building knoT- as the 01_d.
Clock ''corks building to start a nei,,r business as a !oodcraft shop
primarily for custom s,,roodworking, furniture some refinishing (very
little if T can help it. ) T made the appeal on 'eptember 27) it wa.
brought before the Board, the planning Board approved and rrr.
Albanese and mlTself hanre gore to quite a bit of expense to refurb-
ish the area in the building that T an going to be occupying.
T would have thought that you have come here
first , Tlm sLZr?�r1Sed.
P' 'AYF,,, �,T,D: e11_ . T,"r. clbar_ese 'as under the impression that
everzrthi r_g ,as settled es far as th? zon i n� in the bui-ldino; was
concerned wher he appeared.
PRP, r7_P_'T11T: Tn that earlier version of the case . we did grant a
variance for certain times of uses but., left it open for additional
.requests to be made if the uses were not on that list for perspect-
ive tenants for the building and I gather that is why you are here.
MI . ?-,AKFFTRLD: Mr. Jones and myself went over the appeal for the
variance that was permitted to Pr. Albanese . The node wasn't too
clear it didn't say no and it didn' t say yes . Tt was one of these
situations 1,-,There you ought to take a chance and put it in and
nroba.bly get your head cut off. So , rather than take any chances,
put alot of investment into it, T decided to go the course and go
to the Zoning Board and get it approved.
f T.rA mT°T: 0k, could you describe for us in slightly more detail
than you have what kinds of -tnrork and vrhat kind. of hazards associated
with that 1rTork would you contemplate .
1,1?? T,,'4 T 7 74 74'WT?',T,D: TIM looking at an operation probabl_�T TIM sure T'?osl
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f Jrou gentlemen here have �,rorked at your ozsn work shops a little bit
bigger than that but nothing on the large manufacturinrr scale . T 'm
trying to impact a market on a. custom hardworked wood. area . Coffee
table, dining tables ; slab wood., there will be a lot of slab wood
vrork done, the customer would be al_lo!^red to come in and pick out
the slab that is on di splay in the shoTqroom and at that time T
will finish it for rim and put the legs on it so on and so .forth.
As T mentioned there trill. be some refin_i shi.ng T don' t <<ra_.nt to get
into it too heavil_�T in the refinishing area because as you say
number l hazards i_rvolved, it requires alot of amount of sophisti_ca. ..ed.
equj_pment that Ta wrant to be involved we th. T'm tryi_ g to hit
the market on the so to speak the way they did it 200 years ago
situation in fact. that is going to be one of my big things .
rm n,nn, MTT: Hot^.' r..)any employees a-re you going to have in tl-,is
operati_or_?
Ty Wf,,TT771 TTT.D- j,=ell_ , there will nrobabl_y be myself for a year
until T get out of the red but, T don' t antici_pa.te more than three
people at the most. ^Tvsel_f_ , if it starts to go in the way T think
it vrill , my brother will probably come in with me and possibly
somebody out in the store area. But other than that if it grows
any bigger T'd have to start to look for something bigger myself.
Pte. BODT�\TF.: ',,That type of power equipment might you be using?
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`%'AKFPTBLD: Just recently T purchased a 10 inch radial saw, T_
have a 10 inch bar_ satr, a radial drill press , three foot Lathe and
some power hand tools. ''ander. , buffers and so on. The fir_irhes
on my product are going to be of the hand rubbed finish, oils and
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,!axes . TIM sort of turned off an,T more on pla sti_c s that we can
buy in the store anybody can go down and buy it it the sure. TIM
going to try to hit the market with the hard rubbed, the old type
something that is substantial , something that trill last for years
and years . That is about the biggest now*er equi_7ment any larger
equi.nment other than that if it is required trill_ be done at n, rn _l_l_
ha7re it milled. for myself and. have it, brought in.
T,71 . 7 .tiP77 ?i: You are srOi rg to be Operating regUl..a.r hours , T take
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T,rAu^FTT:r: Yes . TIM hopeing to have the store opened 9-5 and
T } 1_l- rrob?bly be there not much later s T 'm sort of a fa.mi_l_y man a
little bit old fashion , T ' ll probably be there until_ 8 or 9:70 at
night and that is about it. I ' ll. say the shop will be onerating
8 to 8:70 in the eireni.ng at the most and the store will be opened
Q to 5, fire da=.rs a- vTeek . Saturda-rs if things are going good; T
mi ght stay open `latardays too .
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GA9T"TG7P : Tf �rou do refinishing you have dipping tanks?
T> AT/'r,,T,TFT,j�; r1o , T t•rorr 't. ^ny of Mir refinishing �aril_l_ be done
strictly as a- hand operation . As far as combustibles go , T doubt
very much if T ' _ll have more than 6 gall-Ons of any type in the shop
at any one time and those would be stored in a steel cabinet. The
walls are being rated 2 hour Trans „ we are double sheetrocking ttiJe
-alls. We are putti_n7 in between the office spaces between variou
businesses , we' re putting in fire doors. `_'here will be no venting
needed . Tt would be like you at home, that type of operation.
Nothing major.
MR KA SPT?ZAK: Would you consider your operation as a noisy operaton
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kind of thing?
MR. ,.LA.'EFTELD: No , no more so than if I had it downstairs in my
own house .
1,7,A. KASP'ZAK: j':'hich part of the building are you actually occupy-
I ing? North. south, east wall or what have ;rou?
n7p ',TTT7PT7T3): Tt'1l_ be on the south bottom part.
USPR.ZAK: Then you could. park in front of it?
TRO T,4P T��', T t7T D• Yes,_ _ . _F�..:.�,�. es right.
r,.Tn . �.RnpTTTIT: Any further questions?
" R . G _STEIGFR: Could you give us an estimate on what you expect
the traffic to be to and from this shop?
ra , T�Tr�YrPFI,T,D• T'11 be looking for probably 1,000 people a da Jr
no that would be one of the nice things about it. The person_ will
come ir. see T�,That T hajre to offer them, T ►m hopei_ng t,) have catalo s
made up, then T' 1.1 go to their home , the piece will be designed,
fit to their decor at home . So , as far as furniture going in and ,
out o+' the doo-s, it err _l_l_ be handled mostly by me . Tf T could get
fiire people a day, TIM -croincr to be very happy. T '1_l have a.
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swinging day. T '11 nut my own buildi_na up. !`.lot of it will
nrobah?_�r be over the Phone. Jack come or_ up, T want you to take
a look at this and see if we can 17et a dining table made for it
or something like that. Tike T sair. if T can cet five people a
,
d.aIr, T' IJ have a. good business going
P! . GP,1,17,Tr7r.: T'id voLl and R''Tr. /-Ibanese discuss what function the
build.i_ng was apnroved for that this comes closest to?
T,T . 7>TATt,7 TT'TD: Yes , we talked and. anti_nue furniture is the closes
it Came to . hey furni t,zre *nJi l_l_ be i r a sense 10() .wears from now an
antique. -t Wil1. be styled_ along those Tines . ',Then you walk in
there wiTT be a piece of rai.,T lumbe- there, you pick it out and
when thou get it at your home it TrJi ll_ be a finished. Product. Anal
that is the market if T'm not mistaken. Fd, the variance was
approved for arti_a>>e furniture which would include some refinishing,
if T 'm not mistaken.
T"T. JONTEC: T'm not sure now, T 'd have to go get that folder too ,
_T don't really recall. T know when Mr. Wakefield came in to talk
to me about it we looked and it was one of those things like they
used the name Taughannock_ Construction contracting outfit and they
are going to inventory a. little whatever, �,rhether it' s planking
for scaffolding or staging and maybe some doors , so on and so
forth. "_'his �,.:has Just a little bit different and T said you had-
better
.a.dbetter Zo to the Foard and seek a variance before we make any
commitments on it.
"ITT*) 3.,r�yV T P,T;TI• Tt liras -iUst an area . a o-rav area that �;re felt s,�re
ought to clarify befog,,, we took any. . . . . . . .
Pit? , G I'rII-7TrT+'j'_ : On the noise , the tools as i.n mir PXperi.ence that
create the noise in the home po�ier sqw, -power grinder; nnwer sande
and you iFTi_l.l c erta inl�r have power sa�r:�s , 7rou �P.rill have two of them.
T assume. Albanese has cnnsidered this ton it terms of other terant _ .
r77 I-TAT'T'TFLD: Yes . Tr _fast mike has given me a hand t^I_th some of
the R foot sheetroc',c . �rike Tol,,rner i s i r the rnrr.er ri nrht rpxt to
mP and we have talked about i_t ai_?ite a bi_t and he i s not the least
g more
bit concerned. in fact he said that he wi_l1 nroba.blzr be makin
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not se than T will , he i.s an electric i n . As T said, Z•re are double
sheetrocking and. insulating between the businesses the--'-. the heairi r
power equirment will. be in some sense noise insulated. from the res
of the building bf-CpI)se T 'm mooing to be next to a brick wall which
is in back which is next to open court yards . Then the other side
wi_l_l be my shop, then you have the two _fire walls so we talked to
al `_ the tenants and nobody has expressed any concern, in fact,
they are driving me nuts, they want signs made .
MIR. XASPRZAK: Trow are you going to dispose of your remnants and
dust and things Til;--e that.
T,'"� ,AKT,7,7Trr T. rr'he sawdust, believe it or not, there i.s a_ market
for it. n, friend of mine has a farm in Croton and he told me he
take aT..e Jr all the sa 0.Tdust that ca.n give him. he has cows
and hoes ar rl stuff. mhe .smaller nieces T better d.o som^ careful
plannir_7 and rot hcvp too much scrape becalase that is going to cost
mon_ev because Y 'm talking h?rd. t'."17 s , but anJr m8.11er ?)1eCP,S , T �'�
probably looking at 1n-15 Uallon.s a. -eek scrape end arythir_g bigge
than_ that could be saved and used ship-ming- so on and so forth . So
Tire are talkirg about little tir_'Nr pieces
T."P . P'TA.Pr"TT,T: farther ola.esti.nnsr -,-G ! ,Ern a,�Srore PI-se ,,,hn tn�nl1-l.d
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i ke to be heard on this case? "i_rst enyonp in favor and Frvnne
acrain,,t? rnhat cnn^ludes the public session this elrening, the Roar
trill_ aO in exectiti_7-e session.
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TTprtin: T move to rrrpnt the u!,e -%rariance. T"Tr.. Do A i-
T second that.
7;T"M')T T,Tr,r` n17 PI 'T'0,
I Trour 7rior P- J- Tn76 in April of 1075 ., we four(I
ction or 'anneal_
a use variance t,.Tas justifi.ed. for this buil-O-ir- but only
c:I -
r,rprtecl for certain our nrly qi,iesti-or ir this race 4-s
whet-he" the nronosed use is �om-n,-tible with the neiZhborhood
as 4C-10 77C USeS 70ermitt(=,� by the in. April 1017C;
2) The testimony, as presented , irdicated- that the pro-psoed use
would have no detriment.q! 4 pact on the neighborhood and i,,rps
consistent -.,i-+.h the business 1:11-reaitu ir the builrlirrr.
7,.rnnI-T: V - 9 F, 0
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!'.replication has been -ranted,
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T r`TT_)T(-`TIT?,TI-I 'IT "'17PTT 7V
that took the minutes of the
BOARD OF 70IIITT7r, VPPF
A_T, CYT OF ITHAIA, in the matters of Appeals
No 1096, 1093 and 9-1-75 on October 6, 1975, at City Hall , City
of Ithaca, New York, that I have transcribed same, and the fore-
going is a true copy of the transcript of the minutes of the meeting
and the Executilre Session of the Board of Zoning An
,-, Lpeals , City of
Tthaca, on the above date , and the whole thereof to the best of
Tn-,,- ability.
Christine Smith
.ecordi_ng cecretarnT
Sworn to before me thisz
of
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rq()j,t,y .1. \V. 1111EARDSLEY
Notary pLtj)jjc, Stn,L- (.,I New YOI-k
Qtialifi"A Coulity
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