HomeMy WebLinkAboutMN-PDB-1954 PLANNING BOAZ PROCEEDINGS
CITY OF ITHACA,N.X.
Executive Session 4:00 P.M. January 4, 1954
PRESENT:
Chairman - Brown
Commissioners - Metzgar, Dickens, Gaurni:er, Osborn, Price and Taber
Aldermen - Wilkinson and Connolly
M,�yor - Cook
Assessor & Bldg. Commr.and Zoning Officer —Thorne
Clerk - Blean
DIRECTOR OF PLANNING: While in executive session before the Mayor, Aldermen and
Mr. Thorne entered the meeting,discussion took place relative to the working out
of plans and det^ils for the appointment of Mr. Thorne as Director of Planning
and at the same time have him continue as Assessor until July 1, 1954. It was
agreed that Mr. Thorne was the choice of members of the Planning Board for the
position if details can be worked out satisfactorily. Mr. Thorne entered the
meeting at this time and Chairman Brown explained all the details as discussed
during the executive session, and pointed out that everything was subject to
Council Approval. ler. Thorne accepted.
By Commissioner Gaurnier: seconded by Commissioner Osborn
WHEREAS, after careful consideration of all aspects of the problems of Planning,
�1 it is the unanimous opinion of members of the Planning Board that the services of
a full-time Director of Planning is urgently needed to best serve the interest
of the citizens of the City of Ithaca,
NOW THERE OTS BE IT RESOLVED,- that the Common Council be and hereby is requested
to create the position of Director of Planning, at an annual base salary of
$6,500.00; and that the position be declared in the exempt group of employees
under the Civil Service Rules of the City; and that the term of office be for
three years with appointment by the Planning Board.
AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Council be requested to amend the salary
schedule accordingly. Motion Carried .
By Commissioner Metzgar: seconded by Commissioner Price
REcOLVED, that, upon creation of the position of Director of Planning by the
Common Council, Henry C. Thorne be appointed Director of Planning for the City
of Ithaca for term of three years at an annual base salary of $6,500.00, and
that the salary as Director of Planning take effect as of July 1, 1954•
Cazried
By Commissioner Osborn: seconded by Commissioner Ketzgar
WHEREAS, the services of a full-time Director of Planning will not be Lavailable
to the Planning Board until July J'L 1954,
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Planning Board hereby respectfully
request the Common Council that an amount up to $3,000.00 of the tentative budget
for 1954 be earmarked for extra professional help to expedite and immediately
complete the development plan for Iaest Hill.
Carried
QAC MOTI0117 the meeting was adjourned.
Geo. A Blean
City Clark
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Tanners Ask\--,
More Funds
For Next Year
The Planning Board today re-
quisitioned the Common Coun-
cil for $7,200 next year for the
salary of `a. full-time planner,
consultation` and drafting fees,
and office expenses.
The budget request was ac-
companied by a lengthy.report
emphasizing an immediate need
for more planning. Signed' by
Chairman H. Stilwell Brown,'the
report stated, "There has come
a time when future planning for
the City of Ithaca is not only in
creasmgly important, but actual-
ly necessary."
Board members approved ask
ipg the Council for $4,400,,the
planner's salary;,$2,000 for con
sultatiori and drafting,and $800
for office supplies. This requisi-
tion .is $3,400 more than the
council budget for the board this
year. The board' has spent only
$2,500 of'the $3,2800 allocated.
Several` proposed b u d g e t s
ranging from $3,800'° to $10,000
were discussed before the board
settled on the $7,200' as "an
amount actually:needed." It was
emphasized that the commission-
ers,are not submitting a figure`
with a thought'; to subsequent
negotiations but are ready Jo
justify a need for the specific
amount designated.
Cited as immediate' planning
needs are a population research,
master plan, capital budget, -of-
ficial map, guidance of private
developments and "Greater Ith- ,
aca." As for the last, the board
noted that authority to do some-
thing in that direction would de-,
pend on the creation of a re-
gional planning board.
In• discussing the master plan;
tie board talked of business dis-
#ict planning that would in-
Volvo studies of parking, shop
p,mg habits; deliveries at the rear
of _business establishemnts, ar-
trial routes, development of
such areas as West Hill-and the
TitusFlats, recreational area
studies, housing, future Indus . i
trial sites and public buildings.
The board's.capitalbudget pro
posal ties in with the master''
plan in that long-term financing
vouid be considered in connec- .
,On with the major undertak
Ings.
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PLANNING BOARD PROCEEDINGS
CITY OF ITHACA, N.Y.
j Regular beeting 4:00 P.M. January 11, 1954
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f PRESENT:
Chairman - Brown
CCommissioners - Yletzgar, Price, Dickens, Gaurnier, Osborn and Taber
Zoning Officer - Thorne
City Engineer - Cass
Clerk - Blean
MINUTES: Y nutes of the preceding meeting were duly approved.
BUDGET - 1954: Chairman Brown reported that the Council had approved a tentative
budget of $7,800.00 for the Planning Board for the year 1954 with an amount of not
to exceed $3,000.00 from the budget being earmarked for the immediate completion
of the development plan for the West Hill area.
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WEST HILL DMELORENT- PLAN: Discussion ensued regarding the completion of the
plan, for the development of the West Hill Area. lir. Thorne reported that he can
obtain the full time services of a graduate landscape architect to start work on
this plan. He estimated that the complete plan could be finishedrby May 15, 1954
at a cost of $1,500.00. Commissioner Gaurnier insisted that an earlier dead line
for the completion of the work be set. Although some of the Commissioners favored
i April 15 as a dead line it was finally agreed to accept May lst. as the date.
Commissioner Gaurnier asked that provisions be made for the deeding to the City
I of all necessary street rights-of-way and repeated several times that the Board
of Public 'forks expect that all such rights-of-way be deeded to the City by the
respective developers.
Mr. Thorne agreed to have a rough sketch of the street plan of the entire area
ready for Board consideration at the next regular meeting to be held on February 8,
1954.
By Commissioner Osborn: seconded by Commissioner Taber
RESOLVED, that Mr. Thorne be authorized to proceedpwith extra help available,
with the preparation of a rough sketch of the street plan of the entire area to
be ready for consideration at the next regular meeting; and with final plans
and sketches for presentation by Play 1, 1954; and that the earmarked funds from
the 1954 tentative budget be used for this purpose.
Carried
CHAIRMAN: Chairman Brown announced that it would be in order to elect a chairman
at this time and expressed the hope that since he had been chairman for several
years a new one be selected at this time. On the suggestion of Commissioner
Gaurnier, Chairman Brown agreed to appoint a committee of three members to act as a
nominating committee to present a recommendation for chairman at the next regular
meeting of the Board.
ARTERIAL HIGHWAYS: Upon request of Chairman Brown, Engineer Cass reported
briefly On the status of the State plans for arterial highways, and expressed the
opinion that the plans for the tuning fork phase of the work were nearing the
final stages, before presentation to the City for acceptance.
ON MOTION the meeting was adjourned. �: a
Geo. A. Blean,
City Clerk
PLANNING BOARD PROCEEDINGS
CITY OF ITHACA,N.Y.
Regular Meeting 4:00 P.M. February 8, 1954
PRESPUT:
Chi firman - Brown
Commissioners - Metzgar, Price, Dickens, Gaurnier, and Taber
Chamber of Commerce Representative - L. P. Smith
Director of Planning - Thorne
City Engineer - Cass
Clerk - Blean
Chairman Brown noted with deep regret the death of l-ir. R. C. Osborn, husband of
Commissioner Osborn, and extended to Firs. Osborn the sympathy of the entire Board
in her bereavement.
ROBERT D. BURGESS- - ASSISTANT TO PLANNER: Director Thorne reviewed a letter
relative to the hiring of Robert D. Burgess as an assistant in Planning at the rate
of $2.00 per hour, pending the establishment of a permanent salary range for this
work. He explained that he had presented the matter first to the Council and that it
had been referred back to this Board for recommendation.
By Commissioner Gaurnier: seconded by Commissioner Price
RESOLVED, that the rate of $2.00 per hour for the services of Mr. Burgess be
approved to continue at the pleasure of Director Thorne.
Carried
CHAIR111AN: Chairman Brown announced that he had appointed Commissioners Dickens,
Taber and Iyietzgar as a nominating committee to make recommendation in regard to a
chairman for the coming year and called upon Commissioner Dickens for his report at
this time. In making his report Commissioner Dickens pointed out that the nominating
committee as well as the entire Board feel that the present Chairman, Commissioner
Brown,should be recognized and given credit for his leadership in gaining official
recognition of this Board, for obtaining a satisfactory budget for the year 1954 and
for obtaining the full-time services of a Director of Planning. Other members
present concurred with Mr. Dickens. He then nominated Commissioner Price to succeed
Mr. Brown as chairman for the ensuing year. Commissioner Price accepted the
nomination with the understanding that, if the pressure of his job and other outside
committments warrant it, he may be forced to relinquish the duties of chairman.
By Commissioner Dickens: seconded by Commissioner Gaurnier
M33SOLPED, that the recommendation of the nominating committee be accepted; and,
there being no further nominations, that Commissioner Price be declared duly elected
as Chairman of the Planning Board for the ensuing year.
Carried
MINUTES: Minutes of the preceding meeting were duly approved.
TABER DEVELOPMENT: The Clerk read a letter from Paul Taber, accompanied by three
maps showing his development in Westmount Subdivision, requesting conditional
approval of this subdivision as soon as possible. Director Thorne recommended such.
approval.
By Commissioner Gaurnier: seconded by Commissioner Metzgar
RESOLVED, that the Planning Board hereby approves conditionally the Westmount
subdivision pians as presented by Mr. Taber.
Carried
SCHICKEL DEVELOPMENT: Mr. Norbert Schickel submitted plans for a development on
Elm Street, adjacent to the west city line, designed to accomodate nine homes in
this area, and also requested conditional approval by this Board. Director Thorne
recommended such approval.
By Commissioner Brown: seconded by Commissioner Taber
RESOLVED, that the Planning Board hereby approves conditionally Mx.Schickel's
Elm Street subdivision plans as submitted.
Carried
WEST HILL DEVELOPMENT PLML Director Thorne exhibited his rough sketch of a street
plan for the entire West Hill area showing his proposed lay-out of all major streets.
He expected a maximum of 10% grade on any street. He visioned the area furnishing
500 homes with an estimated future population of 3,300 people. After some
discussion during which Chairman Price commended Nin. Thorne for his exhibition and
presentation of the street plan it was agreed that a public hearing should be held
affording all interested persons to view the plan before final approval.
By Commissioner Brown: seconded by Commissioner Gaurnier
RESOLVED, that a public hearing be held at the next regular meeting of the
Planning Board, to be held March %, 1954 in the Common Council Chambers, City Hall
at 4:00 P.M. at which time all interested persons will be afforded an opportunity
to review the street plan for the entire West Hill area as presented by Director
Thorne. j
Carried 3 .'
ON MOTION the meeting was adjourned.
Geo. A- B t Clerk
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PLANNING BOPIM PROCEEDINGS
CITY OF ITHACA,N.Y.
Regular Meeting 4:00 P.M.. March 8,1954
PRESENT:
Chairman - Price
Commissioners - Ketzgar, Dickens, Gaurnier, Brown and Osborn
Director of Planning - Thorne
Engineer - Cass
Clerk - Bldan
U 'S• Minutes of the preceding meeting were duly approved.
WEST HILL DMLOPMT LAN: Chairman Price reported on a meeting of the West Hill
C fte Associatiot held March 4, 1954 at which time Director Thorne appeared and
piaesented his proposed street plan for the West Hill area. He stated that those
present at that time including the majority of the present developers gave their
general approval to the plan as presented. He also reported that the matter of
acquiring the old Williams property for park purposes was discussed but that while
a slight majority seemed to favor this idea there was no formal action taken in the
matter, He reported that some sentiment seemed to favor the beautifying of both
sides of the gorge extending through the property and that a committee from the
Association have the matter understudy. He then suggested that a date be set for
a formal hearing on West Hill street plan as prepared by Director Thorne.
4 By Commissioner Dickens: seconded by Commissioner Metzgar
RESOLVED, that the West Hill street plan as prepared by Director of Planning
Thorne be approved by the Planning Board subject to a public hearing thereon at a
meeting of said Planning Board to be held on Monday, parch 22, 1954 at 4:00 Pai.;
and that the City Clerk be authorized to advertise such public hearing.
Carried
TUN3NG FOEK REPORT: The Chairman called upon Mr. Fred Rogalsky, a member of the
Chamber of Commerce Tuning Fork Committee, who presented and reviewed a written
report compiled by his committee with the aid of the Superintendent of Public Works,
City Engineer and Director Thorne. He noted the loss of approximately $302,500.00
, , in assessed valuation to provide for the necessary rights-of-way with a resulting
f 1 lose of approximately $8,772.00 in city and school taxes, but pointed out that the
state is expected to assume about $10,000.00 in maintenance costs of streets that
will become arterial highways.
By Commissioner Osborn: seconded by Commissioner Dickens
RESOLVED, that the Planning Board hereby commends the Chamber of Commerce Tuning
Fork Committee for the excellent report rendered and that the committee be urged
to use every opportunity available to make the contents of the report known to the
general public for the purpose of clarifying all aspects of the matter.'
Carried
POLLUTION: The Chairman read a resolution from the Tompkins County Federation of
( ` Sportsmen's Clubs regarding an alleged pollution of the wa6ers at the south end
of Cayuga Lake adjacent to Stewart Park as it affects fishing, the propagation of
other wild life, and water sports, especially swimming, in this area. The
resolution urged the Planning Board as well as other official Board to take steps
to curtail such pollution and study the question whether such results could be
obtained at a fraction of the cost of building an outdoor swimming pool at Stewart
Park,
The Clerk was directed 6o acknowledge the resolution for possible future refer-.
ence.
OFF STREET PARMG: Chairmah Price caUed attention to and reviewed a proposal for
an off street parking project to be operated by the herchants Division of the
i Chamber of Commerce at 117-119 East Green Street. He called upon I•X. Cass who
presented and reviewed several plans prepared some time ago relative to making
various parcels of property in this vicinity adaptable for off street parking
purposes.
ON MOTION the meeting was adjourned.
Geo. A. Blean,
City Clerk
PLANNING BOARD PROCEEDINGS
CITY OF ITHACA, N. Y.
Special Meeting 4:00 P.M. March 22, 1954
PRESENT:
Chairman - Price
Commissioners - Brown and Dickens
Director of Planning - Thorne
Clerk - Blean
PUBLIC HEARING - WEST HILL STREET PLAN: Chairman Price opened the public he
on the West Hill street plan advertised for this time. Residents of West Hill
present included Mr. & Mrs. W. E. Mordoff, Miss Vida A. and Miss Marion E. Dunbar,
Mrs. William Wilson, Mrs. John Graves, Norbert Schickel and George Minneah.
Mr. & Mrs. Mordoff objected to the location of Campbell Avenue as extended
to meet Chestnut Street because it is too close to their house. Mr. Mordoff
expressed his willingness to cooperate with the City if details can be worked
out to move the location of this street farther from his house and suggested
that stakes be set to establish the exact location.. Objection was also registered
regarding the removal of elm trees in this neighborhood.
Mrs. Wilson and Mrs. Graves objected to the name "Campbell Avenue" and both
stated their preference for the name "Westfibld Drive".
The Dunbars objected to the extension of Warren Place through their property
to Elm Street.
Chairman Price thanked those present for presenting their views in the matter
and advised them that the., Planning Board would undertake a study of the objections
presented.
Due to a lack of a quorum it was decided to adjourn to reconvene at the call
of the Chairman.
Geo. A. Blean,
City Clerk
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PLANNING BOARD PROCEEDINGS
CITY OF ITHACA, N. Y.
Adjourned Meeting, 7:00 P.M. April 7, 1954
PRESENT:
Chairman - Price
Commissioners - Dickens and Brown
Director of Planning - Thorne
Clerk - Blean
WEST HILL STREET PLAN: Mr. Thorne explained objections raised at the public
hearing had been overcome and it was decided to present the revised plan to
the Council for approval.
Geo. A. Blean,
City Clerk
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PLANNING .BOA.RD r ROCEEDINGS
CITY OF ITHACA, N. Y.
Regular Meeting 4:60 p.m. may 10, 1954
PRP S?NTs
Chairman - Price
Commissioners _ Eetzgar, Dickens, Taber, Brown and Gaurnier
Alderman - 'Wilkinson
City Engineer - Cass
Clerk - Blean
MINUTES: Minutes of the preceding meeting -were duly, approved.
LAJZA SUBDIVISION: f plot plan for Mr. Lajza's development on Warren Place was
reviewed. Notes by hr. Thorne indicated that the preliminary design is workable
but that final drawings are not ready for presentation and that intermediate street
shown depended on its extension to Hook Place.
By Commissioner Brown: seconded by Commissioner Netzgar
RESOLVED, that the plot plan as presented be given preliminary approval provided
that Hr. Lajza make changes at intersections and turn-around as discussed with
Planning Director Thorne.
Carried.
GEO. hINEA.H SUBDIVISICN: A note from Mr. Thorne indicated that general designs
contained in plot plan for Mr. hineah's development on Warren Place are acceptable
but that revisions are pending and that final drawings are not ready for pre-
sentation. No action taken.
WESTY10UNT ASSOCItTES INC. SUBDIVISION: A plot plan for development of property
on Hector Street by Westmount Associates Inc. was reviewed. A note from Mr.Thorne
indicated that he is awaiting revision of local streets and the entrance from
Hector Street is undertermined pending a land transfer. It was agreed that the
plan be set aside as notconforming to the city's major street plan and that the
architect, Mr. Tallman, be so notified. No formal action taken.
PAUL,TABER SUBDIVISION: A plot plan for Paul Taber's development known as
Westmount subdivision was reviewed. Chairman Price reported that it meets with
all design regulations and that it has previously had preliminary approval by the
Planning Board. No further action taken.
JOHN V ''R DEVELOMNT: A plot plan for development of eleven lots owned by
John Miller, III, in an area bounded by Cornell Street, Valley Road and East State
Street was reviewed. A note from AYr. Thorne indicated insufficient drawings,
entrance from Valley Road cannot comply with regulations,-reverse curve - no
tangent-, starts too close to Elmwood Avenue, no dimensions or topography shown.
No action taken.
& E�RIAL PLAN - MUTE 13 BY-PASS: An alternate for arterial route 13 as it goes
through the city was reviewed. Engineer Cass pointed out that the alternate must
be considered as a by-pass as distinguished from an arterial plan offered by the
State. He explained that the State plan offers to take traffic through the city
rather than bypass it around the city.
Commissioner Gaurnier pointed out that the alternate or by-pass route has been
opposed from a State level because it has a grade crossing in it but stated that
he would be glad to place it before State officials again at a meeting in Syracuse
on May 21, 1954 which he hopes to attend with other city officials for a discussion
of the entire arterial plan as it affects Ithaca. It was agreed that he do so.
TMWAJZ PRO RTY: Alderman Alkinson inquired if the Planning Board had arq
definite recommendation for the use of the Williams property if it were to be
acquired by the City. He explained that the Common Council had-expressed an
interest in acquiring the property from the County for a nominal sum and as a
result he anticipated that the Board of Supervisors were going to offer the
property to the City for the sum of $16,500.00. He suggested that a more lenient
offer might be forthcoming if the land was designated for a public use such as a
Playground.
Commissioner Brawn stated that members of the West Hill Civic Association had
expressed a desire that the areas adjacent on both sides to the creek running
through this property be beautified and that the balance be made available for
home building sites. An offer of $16,500. was considered excessive and it was
suggested that the Board. of Supervisors be requested to consider selling to the
City a small area on both sides of the creek for development and beautification.
DIRECTOR OF PLANNING: Upon inquiry from Commissioner Brown noted that final
details will have to be worked out before Mr. Thorne can be relieved of his duties
as Assessor and begin full time duties as Director of Planning.
ON MOTIOR the meeting was adjourned. �.
Geo. A. BLean, ...�
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PLANNING BOJ RD PROCEEDDIGS
Page 2 July 12, 1954
By Commissioner Osborn: seconded by Commissioner Gaurnier
RESOLVED, that the present arrangement, with Mr. Thorne supervising as Director
of Planning, be continued until such time as the services of a Bill time planner
can be secured.
Carried.
By Commissioner Brown: seconded by Commissioner Metzgar
RESOLVED, that the Chairman be authorized to appoint a committee to investigate and
ascertain if the services of a full time planner can be secured, either to work
under the supervision of lair. Thorne or take complete charge by himself, and report
back to this Board at the earliest possible opp,;rtunity.
Carried.
Chairman Price announced that he would appoint such a committee at an early date.
On motion the meeting was adjourned.
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Geo A Blean,
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COFIBINED YMETING - CM*EN COUNCIL, BOARD OF PUBLIC WORKS
PLANNING BOARD AND CITY SUPERVISORS
Adjourned special meeting 8:30 p.m. J , 1954
. ddition to the City officials listed, several citizens an$aidents of
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Creek, Bryant Tract and other sections of the city were $ent.
» ok announced that the purpose of thi3 meeting was to discuss and
ac �xembers of all the official city Boards with the various phases of the
Tunin >
' '-Fork and the Route 13 by-pass. He advised that it was not in arq sense a
public hearing on these matters. He assured interested persons who were present
.:that such a public hearing would be held at some future time at which all would
'have a' chance to presaft their views. He then asked the Clerk to read letters
which he had received regarding these problems. `"Letters,*Sre read from residents
,of the Bryant Tract area, the Fall Creek area, and the Citi-Federation of
Women's Clubs. All endorsed the Thorne Plan and urged its submission for approval.
:Mayor Cook then called on Superintendent Laverty who reviewed the history of
the State's arterial pian for the City of Ithaca from 1946 to date. Mayor Cook
advised that the latest estimate of the cost of the Tuning Fork was;;y$96O,000.00
pne-half of which must be borne by the City.
Considerable support of the Thorne alternate plan for Route 13 by-pass was
registered while it was pointed out by others that the Federal government will not
participate in it because of a railroad crossing and that therefore the State will
not approve it.
By Alderman Wilkinson: seconded by Alderman Scott
;:RESOLVED, that the Thorne plan be presented by the Common Council to the State
Department of Public Works for consideration and official action regarding its
acceptance and inclusion in the arterial plans for the City of Ithaca.
Carried
Supervisor Hall recommended that the CounWe stand in the matter be made
known to Assemblyman Ashberry and Congressman Taber.
Mayor Cook then announced his appointment of a committee consisting of one
member each from the OMaal bodies gathered at this meeting. The Committee
was comprise{c} 0 ;#-,he fo. . James Conley, Supervisor; Don Price, Planning
Board; Robes;Wilkinson,,Ecidmnon Council; L. J. Gaurnier, Board of Public,Works.
He recoaanended that the Committee study the cost and other phases of the
arterial plan as they develop and report °their findings to the Council.
ON MOTION the meeting was adjourned.
Geo. A, Blean,
City Clerk
FLMI ING BOARD PROCEEDINGS
CITY OF TTHACA,N.Y.
Regular Meeting 4: 00 p.m. June 14, 1954
PFi�;SENT:
Mayor - Cook
Chairman - Price
Commissioners - Metzgar, Brown, Osborn, Gaurnier
Chamber of Commerce Representative - L. P. Smith
Engineer - Cass
Clerk - Blean
IMMS:U S: Minutes of the preceding meeting were duly approved.
D CTOR OF PLANNING: Chairman Price read a letter from H. C. Thorne explaining
that it will be impossible for him to relinquish his duties as Assessor and devote
full time to Director of Planning as of July 1, 1954. Eayor .Cook called attention
to the importance of retaining the services of an experienced Assessor while the
reappraisal of real property in the City is being made and, since he has been
unable to find a qualified assessor to succeed Air. Thorne, recommended that he be
continued in that capacity for at least six months. Individually and collectively
members of the Planning Board expressed great dissapointment that the services of
a full time planner vril.l not be available as contemplated on July 1, 1954, but
were all agreed that hr. Thorne should continue to serve as Assessor during the
period of revaluation at least.
Commissioner Brown recommended hiring of a full.-time planner who would be made
more responsible to the Planning Board than Mr. .Thorne can be under the present
circumstances. He advocated the hiring of someone recently graduated from" a
planning school at an estimated annual salary of $4,400.00 to work for the present
under the supervision of Mr. Thorne and that lair. Thorne be paid from the Planning
Board's budget for his supervision.
Commissioner Gaurnier called attention to the pending problems of annexation
and stressed the importance of having a full-time planner in the event of annexation
of the Village of Cayuga Heights or any part of the Town of Ithaca to prevent
undesirable planning In any annexed areas. He objected to hiring an unexperienced
person and warned that if annexation comes about and experienced one will be
needed immediately who will be subordinate to no one except the Planning Board
On recommendation of Commissioner Gaurnier, Chairman Price was direoted to make
a study of the matter and present a composite plan for consideration at the next
meeting.
ART��TIAL ROUTES: Commissioner Gaurnier reported that on a recent visit to the
Syracuse office of the State Department of Public Works he had been advised that
hr. Thorne's alternate proposal for arterial route -,13 as it affects the City will
definitely not be approved by the State. Since the Federal Government will not
provide any funds for such an undertaking,, the State will not approve it. He
pointed out that traffic counts indicate that 83% of all traffic coming over this
route has a local destination and that the cost of the alternate to provide for the
15% through traffic is considered unjustifiable. He further reported that plans
for the Tuning Fork and other phases of the arterial routes for Ithaca are
progressing and that cost estimates to the City All be made available soon so that
if the City approves, work may be started about April 1, 1955• He predicted that
if Ithaca turns down the arterial proposal at this time that it will be a long time
before any other arterial planning is done for Ithaca.
CITY UAQ&LIBRARY Commissioner Brown proposed that the Library Building be
completely modernized asaCity Hall and -that the old City Hall be rennovated for the
use of the Library. He estimated the cost at $500,000.00. Some discussion ensued
but no action was taken.
Oil LOTICK the meeting was adjourned.
Geo. A. Blean,
j City Clerk
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PLLNNING BOARD PROCMDINGS
CITY OF ITHACA, N.Y.
Regular Meeting 4:00 p.m. July 1.2, 1954.
PRESENT:
Chairman - Price
Commissioners - Netzgar, Osborn, Dickens, Taber, Brown and Gaurnier
Chamb. of Comm. Representative - L P Smith
Director of Planning - Thome
City Engineer - Cass
City Clerk - Blean
1 U : Minutes of the preceding meeting were duly approved.
ROUTE 13 SASS: A delegation headed by Mr Murray VanMarter, representing the
Fall Creek Civic Ass'n., and one headed by N,r Wm. Black, representing Bryant Park
Civic Ass'n., were present to be heard regarding the State's proposal for taking
route 13 bypass through the city. Mr Murray voiced his group's opposition to
the State's proposal and their backing of rSr Thorn's proposal or any other com
parable alternate. The Bryant Park group voiced their approval of any version of
the Thorne plan which will provide an alternate agreeable to both groups concerned.
Chairman Price called upon Mt. Thorne who reviewed his proposal in detail. He ex-
plained that it provides for the elimination of the very serious traffic hazard
adjacent to Stewart Park entrance, taking heavy traffic off the city streets,
saving large trees on N Cayuga Street from being removed, and reducing the number
of street crossings over the route, none of which have been eliminated in the
State's proposal.
Comm. Gaurnier predicted that any route 13 bypass will }got be built within the
next five years at least and advised that the city should first decide on the
Tuning Fork phase of the aerteri.al plan and, if approved and constructed, give it
a two or three year trial which may eliminate the need for any bypass at all. He
suggested that the tuning fork question be decided by referendum.
ASr Thorne called attention to the fact that delay in approving an alternate bypass
route leaves the war open for building construction which may interfere with road
building in the future or prove very costly when it comes to securing rights-of-way
hr John Burns from Bryant Tract suggested that the Board go on record in regard to
lair Thorn's proposal. Mr Thorne stated that it provides for the best land use in
his opinion on a long range planning basis and suggested that it be approved and
made a part of the official planning map. Much discussion ensued regarding the
tuning fork and its problems. Traffic counts taken over the past three years,
trends and known movements of traffic in certain blocks on State Street, peak
trafi.c hours and their variations from year to year were noted by rir Cass. After
all present had been given an opportunity to express their views on both matters
Chairman Price thanked them for being present and advised that the matter would be
given further study by the Planning Board.
AEg=IQ STREETS: Chairman Price reported that the Traffic Commission had request
ed the Planning Board to designate aerterial streets 'in the city. Mr Thorne agreed
to have a report on this matter ready for the next meeting.
DIRECTOR OF PLANNING: Chairman Price reviewed the Planning Board's current budget
and expenses to date and then presented a proposal for the balance of this year as
follows:
Director of Planning - part-time services at the rate of
$1,000.00 per year .. .. .. . .........$ 500.00
City planner - at the rate of $4500. pr yr. ...... 2,250.00
Draftsman - at the rate of $50.00 per week ..... 19300:00
Miscellaneous - supplies,equipment, extra help ..... 900.00
$4,9502 ,0
If the above plan were adopted we would need the services of a young man to fill
the position of City Planner, who would be an understudy to the present Director of
Planning, H. C. Thorne. In doing so it would be necessary to have a salary range
set up of probably from $4,500. to $6,500. with annual increments of $200. to apply
This man should be a college graduate, preferably in architecture, and an effort
should be made to secure one who has majored in City Planning.
One alternative of this proposal would be to continue as we have been doing with tl
possible recommendation that we endeavor to secure additional help and thus be able
to accomplish more. The situation could then be reviewed in November prior to pre-
pgring the budget for 1955•
With the possibility that lir Thorne would not be available as full time Director of
Planning until Jan. 1, 1956 or later, still another alternatfxve would be to go back
to the original plan and engage a full time Director of Planning as soon as possibl- ,,
p;r. Thorne assured members of the Board that, ,with sufficient help to do detailed
work, he could continue as Director of Pla=dng in addition to his duties as
Assessor and Building Comm.
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PLANNING BOARD PROCEED110S
CITY OF ITHACA.N.Y.
Special Meeting 4:00 P.M. August 2, 1954
PRESENT:
Chairman - Price
C4 miissioners' - Taber, Gaurnier, Hrown, and Osborn
Chamber of Commerce Representative - L. P. Smith
City Engineer - Cass
Clerk Blean
M:. Minutes of the preceding meeting were duly approved.
Chairman Price explained that this special meeting had been called for the
purpose of taking action on the so called Thorne Plan submitted as an alternate for
taking the proposed route #13 by-pass traffic through the city. He read a letter
prepared by Planning Director Thorne covering approval of the plan and urging the
Council to approve and include it in the official map of the city. The matter
was reviewed and discussed in detail. Commissioner Brown repeatedly suggested
approval provided route #13 by-pass is constructed stating that he felt it would
be needed otherwise. Other discussion ensued regarding the recommendation that it
be placed oL the official map of the city at this time, and it was finally agreed
that this part of the recommendation be deleted. Commissioner Gaurnier objected
to t u use of land for an indefinite period and further objected to action
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on this matter at this time when he felt that action of the tuning fork issue
should be taken first. He therefore stated that he wished to abstain from voting
at this time.
By Commissioner Brown: 'seconded by Commissioner Taber
RESOLVED, that the alternate plan entitled "Alternate Plan for Route 13 by--pass
through Ithaca, City Planning Board, 1953-54, be and the same hereby is approved;
and that the Planning Board urges its approval by the Common Council of the City j
of Ithaca.
Ayes - 4 : Taber, Brown, Price and Osborn
Nays - 0
Not voting - 1 : Gaurnier
Motion Carried
TRAFFIC SURVEY: Commissioner Brown called attention to an origin and destination
survey of traffic made in 1946 regarding Route 13 traffic which at that time
revealed that 85% of the traffic was for local destination and only 15% through
traffic. He suggested that the Planning Board make a request to have this
information brought up to date by having another such survey made.
By Commissioner Brown: seconded by Commissioner Gaurnier
RESOLVED, that the Mayor be requested to make an appeal to the State Highway
Department to conduct another origin and destination survey at this timeg
particularly as it affects traffic on the proposed relocation of Route 13.
Carried
ON MOTION the meeting was adjourned at the call of the chairman.
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Special b;eeting 4:00 P.M. August 319 l
Present:
Chairmani - Price
Commissioners - Dickens, Taber, Gaurn er, and Brown
Chamber of Commerce Representative - L. P. Smith
City Engineer - Cass
Director of Planning - Thorne
Deputy City Clerk - Sinsabaugh
MINUTES: Minutes of the preceeding meeting were duly approved.
Chairman Price explained that this meeting had been called to further discuss
the subject of ars"alternate plan for route f13 by-pass"as to becoming a part of the
official City map. He then called upon Planning Director Thorne who stated his
views and beliefs in regard to this route, citing problems that could arise.
By Commissioner Brown: seconded by Commissioner Taber
RESOLVED, that the "Alternate Plan for Route 7#13, by-pass" as approved by the
Planning Board on August 2, 1954 be made a part of the official map of the City of
Ithaca, and that the Planning Board urges its approval by the Common Council of the
City of Ithaca.
Ayes: 4 - Taber, Brown, Dickens and Price
Nays: 0
Not voting: 1 - Gaurnier
Motion Carried
Engineer Cass on questioning gave the progress to date on the West Hill,,develop-
ments of Paul Taber and the Lajza-Ninesh development adjoining Warren Place,. The
report showed definite progress in those areas.
ON MOTION the meeting was adjourned.
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Howard J. iinsabaugh
Deputy City Clerk
PLANNING BOARD PROCEEDINGS
CITY OF ITHACA,N.Y.
Regular Meeting 4:00 P.M. September 13, 1954
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Chairman - Price
Commissioners - Brown, Metzger, Dickens, Gaurnier and Osborn
Director of Planning - Thorne
Clerk .- Blean
MDT?UTES: Minutes of the last regular meeting and the special meeting held August
51, 1,054 were duly approved.
SCHICKEL Dr.,WLOPMENT - ELMCREST CIRCLE: Mr. Schickel presented a request for an
extension of time on the preliminary approval of ,a. plat plan for his new develop-
ment on Elmerest Circle. He then submitted his final Plat for this subdivision and
requested final Board approval.
By Commissioner Gaurnier: seconded by Commissioner Osborn
RESOLVED, that final approval as requested by Nm. Schickel be given to his plat
for Elmerest development, contingent upon his compliance with Board of Public Wurks
regulations and contingent upon actual completion of the various detail require-
ments under the subdivision Regulations of the City of Ithaca; and subject to a
public hearing thereon, and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the City Clerk be authorized and directed to adver-
tise a public hearing on this matter to be held Tuesday, September 21, 1954, at . .
3:00 p.m. E.D.S.T. , as required by Section 32 of the General City Law.
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Carried
SPENO ESTATE DEVELOPMENT - HUDSON STREET: Plat plans and a request for approval''
were presented by Fred Rogalsky, on behalf of the Speno Estate, covera.ng an area
on Hudson Street adjacent on the south to the Frank Speno Estate property and
divided into five lots. It was noted that all utility services are available in
this area.
By Commissioner Brown: seconded by Commissioner Osborn
RESOLVED, that final approval as requested be given contingent upon actual
completion of the various detail requirements under the Subdivision Regulations of
the City of Ithaca; and subject to a public hearing to be held thereon, and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the City Clerk be and hereby is authorized and
directed to advertise a public hearing on this matter to be held Tuesday September
21, 1954 at 3:00 p.m. E.D.S.T. , as required by Section 32 of the General City Law.
Carried
JOHN MIIJ.ER DEVELOPFIENT: A plat plan for John Miller's development in the area
bounded by Cornell Street, Valley Road and the Sawdon property on E. State Street
was reviewed. 11r. J. D. Gallagher appeared on behalf of the developer and
indicated willingness to await Board approval pending further developments in
regard to negotiating for purchase of the Sawdon property. No action was taken.
DIRECTOR OF PLANNING: Chairman Price made a progress report in respect to the
matter of obtaining the services of a full time Planner and expressed the hope
that a final report would be ready for the next meeting of the Board.
NATIONAL PLANNING CONFERENCEr7heChairman called attention to the National Planning
Conference to be held in Phila.uelphia, Pa. on September 26 to 30, 1954, and explain-
ed that Director Thorne has been authorized by the Council to attend. He suggested
that at least one Planning Board member should be authorized to attend also.
By Commissioner Osborn: seconded by Commissioner Dickens
RESOLVED, that the Council be requested to authorize Chairman Price or a member
of the Planning Board to attend this conference at city expense.
Carried
EXTP,A HELP: Director Thorne called attention to the continuing change of
personnel who are working on planning work in his office and urged Board members
to be on the alert for replacements. In this connection he reported on a sub
standard housing survey just completed by Yxs. Richards. He indicated that the
next project would be a survey of recreational facilities.
ON MOTION the meeting was adjourned. 1
Geo. A. Blean,
City Clerk
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Present;
Comni.ssiones - Pi".ce and Gaurnier
Aldermen - -Komaromi and Visnyei
Director of Planning - Thorne
Clerk - Blean
SP---1-N0 ESTATE EIAPMT - HUDSONSTHEET: The Clerk read an advertisement of a public
hearing to be held at this time to consider final plans for the development of an
area on Hudson Street owned by the Speno Estate. Mr. Lloyd Slater, President of the
South Hill Civic Association, Aldermen Komaromi and Visnyei and other residents of
f the South Hill area appeared and urged the Planning Board to delay approval of the
plans pending provision being made for a right-of-way across the Speno property for
the extension of Grandview Avenue through to Hudson Street.
Mr. Harold LaBonte, representing the Speno Estate, appeared and explained that a
right-of-way for this purpose had at one time been offered to the city but when time
came to dispose of the present lots he had been advised that the city was no longer
interested. He offered to sell lot -4,43 to the City or South Hill Civic Association
for $2,000.00 or reserve 25 feet of tbLa lot for a right-of-wap.
It was explained that the main objeci..ion to extending this street was presented
by residents of the Aurora Heights housing development. In turn the owners thereof
objected and therefore the only way a right-of-way across this property could be
obtained would be by condemnation proceedings and this would involve the Federal
Government because of a FHA mortgage on the property.
Area residents pointed out that many of the families *? originally objected have
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moved away and that with changing conditions caused by tha New South Hill School
being built and other factors involved may remove former objections. It was urged
that action be delayed pending another meeting of the South IN-= Civic Association
scheduled for early in October.
Commissioner Price explained that no formal action could be taken at this time
in any event and that it would come up for final action at the next regular meeting
of the Planning Board on October 11,, 1954.
In the meantime Mr. Slater was advised to consult with the City Attorney and
residents of the Aurora Heights development in an effort to remove their objections.
Engineer Cass was asked to investirsate whet1XW the 25 foot right-of-way offered by
fir. LaBonte will offer any soluti--.. 1. far as the Speno Estate is concerned.
Eli ,CIRCLE: No one appeared before the Board to be heard regarding
Ym. Schickel's development on Elm Street known as "Elmcrest Circle."
PLANNING BOARD PROCEEDINGS
CITY OF ITHACA,N.Y.
Regular meeting 4:00 p.m. October 11, 1954
Present:
Chairman - Price
Commissioners - Metzgar, Dickens, Taber, Gaurnier, Osborn, Brown
MUTES: Minutes of the preceding meeting were duly approved.
SEM ESTATE, DEV E &EMENT: Chairman Price reviewed the public hearing held on
September 21, 1954_regarding the Speno development and reported that since then the
Board of Public Works had approved the purchase of lot #1 from the Speno Estate to
pave the way for the extension of Grandview Avenue if found to be feasible in the
future.
By Commissioner Gaurnier: seconded by Commissioner Dickens
WHEREAS, the Board of Public Works have approved the purchase of lot �1, being
the southeasterly lot of the Speno Estate on Hudson Street, to provide a right-of-way
for the future extension of Grandview Avenue from Aurora to Hudson Street, and
WHEREAS, the Common Council has appropriated the sum of $2,000.00 for the purchase
of said lot,
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Planning Board hereby finally approves the
plan as submitted for the remaining four lots of the Speno Estate on Hudson Street.
Carried
GRANDVIEW AVENUE EM21ON: After discussing the proposed extension of Grandview
Avenue it was agreed that the Planning Board should take action in this respect.
By Commissioner Osborn: seconded by Commissioner Metzgar
RESOLVED, that the Planning Board .approve in principle the conception that there
should be a connecting link between Aurora and Hudson Streets somewhere in the
vicinity of Grandview Avenue.
Carried
ANUMU& STREETS: Director Thorne presented a map showing streets to be desig-
nated as arterial streets in the city together with his report of this matter. His
report pointed out that there was some difference of opinion as to the meaning of
arterial streets and felt that the request as presented from the Traffic Commission
Mas a li tle va in this res ct. t s me dis us 41-1- the tt r was referred �-
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PLANNING BOARD PROCEEDINGS
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PLAh''NINGCQNFERIIdC s Chairman Frice reported on his attendance at the National
Planning Conference held in Philadelphia, Pa. September 23-30.
PLQNU4G DIRECTM: Chairman Price read a report indicating that several qualified
and experienced planners would be available for appointment as Planning Director on
or before January 1, 1955• He reported that he had met several of these men at the
Planning Conference in Philadelphia and discussed the matter with them and that all
of them seemed quite interested in the job here. He further reported that the
salary range within which any of these men, with one exception, could be engaged
seems to lie between $5,500. and $6,000. with the assurance that he would be spending
several years in Ithaca during which he would have the opportunity to obtain
annual increments of $200. or $300.
Director Thorne again informed the Board that he felt there was greater need for
additional help to .assist in obtaining data needed in planning than for the services
of a full-time director at this time. At this point in the discussion he left the
meeting.
Although there was some feeling that action be delayed at this time until Mayor
Cook has been consulted regarding the possibility that Mr. Thorne can be relieved of
his duties of Assessor and be available on January 1, 1955 as a full-time Director
of Planning, yet it was generally agreed that the Board take a definite stand at
this time in the matter. It was also generally agreed that if Mr. Thorne is avail-
able on January 19 1955 he would make the best candidate for planning director.
By Commissioner Brown: seconded by Commissioner Metzgar
RESOLVED, that the Planning Board approve the hiring of a full-time Director of
Planning, effective January 1, 1955•
Ayes: 6
Nays: 0
Not Voting: 1 - Taber Motion Carried
By Commissioner Brown: seconded by Commissioner Metzgar
RESOLVED, that the position of Director of Planning be offered to kir. Thorne,
effective January 1, 1955; and if Mr. Thorne declines, then the Chairman be
authorized to seek others who may be available for the position.
Carried
It was agreed that Chairman Price and Commissioner Taber be delegated as a
Committee to confer with Mayor Cook in this matter.
BUDGET - 1955: A budget requisition for the coming year of 1955 was discussed.
By Commissioner Gaurnier: seconded by Commissioner Brown
RESOLVED, that a tentative budget request in the amount of $8,500.00 for the year
1955 be approved; and that it be forwarded to the Common Council for consideration.
Carried
ON MOTION the meeting was adjourned.
Geo. A. Blean
City Clerk
PLANNING BOARD PROCEEDINGS
CITY OF ITHACA.N.Y.
Regular t:eeting 4 p.m. December 13, 1954
PRESENT:
:
Chairman - Price
Commissioners - hetzgar, Osborn, Dickens, Gaurnier, Brown and Taber
Engineer -Cass
.Clerk - Blean
NINUTES: Minutes of the preceding meeting were duly approved.
SCHOOL BOITZD NONIATPTING COI iITT-,-E: The Clerk read a letter from Wm. L. Gragg
requesting that two members be designated to attend a meeting of the Committee on
School Elections to be held January 31, 1955 for the purpose of providing a
nominating committee to select candidates for the clay school board election.
Chairman Price designated Commissioners Osborn and Fetzgar.
DIRECTOR OF PLANNING: The Clerk read a letter from a 11ir. Aiurlin R. Hodgell and one
from Richard W. McGinnis expressing interest in the job of Director of Planning.
Commissioner Taber reported on consultations with Mayor Cook and Mr. Thorne
relative to the position of full time Director of Planning. He reported that
payor Cook is in accord with the Planning Board's desire to have a full time
Director by January 1, 1955 but that he has not yet found a qualified person to
appoint as Lssessor. He reported that Mr. Thorne has expressed his desire to be
Director of Planning dependent upon the Mayor's decision.
Commissioner Gaurnier expressed his belief that this matter has already been
delayed too long and that if annexation of the village of Cayuga Heights is
approved that a full time Director will become more essential than ever.
By Commissioner Gaurnier: seconded by Commissioner Osborn
RESOLV:. , that the Planning Board respectfully request the Mayor to relieve
Yx. Thorne of his duties as kssessor in order that he may serve as full time
Director of Planning., effective January 1, 1955; with the understanding that
Mr. Thorne will be available as a consultant to a new Assessor on a temporary
basis,
AAD BE IT 1URTHER RESOLVED, that the annual a&lary of $6,500. for the position
of Director of Planning be and hereby is approved.
Carried
It was agreed that Commissioners Price and Taber should contact the Mayor as
soon as possible and present the Board's views and request in this, matter.
ON MOTIOF the meeting was adjourned.
Geo. A. B''_ean,
City Clerk
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PLANNING BOARD PROCEEDINGS
CITY OF ITHACA, N.Y.
Special Meeting 4:00 p.m. December 29, 1954
PRESEiv'T:
Fayor - Cook
Chairman - Price
Commissioners - Brown, Metzgar, Gaurnier, Osborn
Alderman - Wilkinson
Clerk - Blean
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DIRECTOR OF PLANNING: Chairrwn Price announced that he had called this special
f meeting to further consider the matter of hiring a full-time Director of Planning
since Mr. Thorne will not be available on January 1, 1955 as expected. He presented
a letter in this respect from Mr. Thorne, dated December 24, 1954, which was read
by the Clerk. In his letter Mr. Thorne emphasized that it is his duty to remain as
Assessor and requested a leave of absence for 1955 as Director of Planning.
Mr. Price reported on his telephone conversation with Mr. Richard McGinnis of
Columbus, Ohio, regarding this position. He reported that Mr. McGinnis, who is a
Cornell graduate and who is familiar with Ithaca and knows Mr. Thorne since he
worked for him part-time during his student days at Cornell, is interested in
returning to Ithaca in planning work if an offer assuring him some permanency and
future can be extended him.
Mayor Cook stated that Mr. Thorne will be definitely needed as Assessor for
another six months or possibly longer and therefore hesitates to ask the Planning
Board to further delay action in securing a full-time Director of Planning. He
expressed his approval of hiring someone to work as a planning aide under super-
vision of Mr. Thorne at present.
After further `discussion it was generally agreed to invite Mr. McGinnis to
i come to Ithaca for an interview relative to his accepting a position as a planning
aide under the supervision of Er. Thorne.
By Commissioner Gaurnier: seconded by Commissioner Osborn
j RESOLVED, that an invitation be extended to Mr. McGinnis to come to Ithaca, at
city expense, for an interview with members of the Planning Board, the Finance
Committee of the Common Council and the Mayor; and that such an interview be
arranged as soon as possible.
Carried
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