HomeMy WebLinkAboutMN-PDB-1983-08-30 MINUTES
PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT BOARD MEETING
AUGUST 30, 1983.
7: 30 P.M. Common Council Chambers
. . PRESENT: Vice ..Chair, Susan Cummings ,. Richard Moran, Bob Romanowski ,
Harold Gerkin, Robert - Holdsworth, Martin Sampson .
ALSO: Appelants , appellant 's representatives, other interested
.parties, H. M. Van Cort , Press .
1 . Call to Order
Cummings called the meeting to order at 7:45 P .M. and noted that
Zoning Appeal , cases would be heard at 8:30.
2. Special Order of Business
a) Pfaff Subdivision
William Sullivan, Attorney, appeared on behalf of Mr. Pfaff . Final
approval is sought for division of the lot at 523 North Aurora Street
to create -.one lot meeting the A-2b lot size requirements and one
smaller lot .adjoining it . Mr. Pfaff would like to convey the
smaller parcel to Mr . Turco who owns the adjacent lot . The rMainip
parcel will contain approximately 40 .feet more than what is
required in this _use district .. Sullivan noted that approval was
requested. at the last P&D Board meeting and no changes have been
made. Planning Director Van Cort said that . staff recommends
approval of the subdivision contingent upon receipt of the. final
survey . He added that both subdivision cases were requesting
approval prior to proceeding with the surveys in order to keep.
down costs.
Holdsworth MOVED the,. opening of the Public Hearing. Gerkin SECONDED
and MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. Hearing no comments from the floor,
Holdsworth MOVED to close the Public- Hearing, Sampson SECONDED and
MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
Moran MOVED approval of division of the lot at 5.23 North Aurora
Street as requested by .Mr. Pfaff contingent upon receipt of the
.survey . Romanooski SECONDED. and MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY,
b) ' 'Novarr Subdivisions
John Novarr appeared on behalf of his property at 723 Caseadilla
Street , He requested approval to divide this property into two,
parcels , each exceeding the. current..I-1 lot size requirement ,
Van Cort sad .staff saw no problem.with this appeal. All parties
have been advised that the parcels lie in' the path of the second
phase of the Route 96 plan. Staff recommended approval
Gerkin MOVED to open the public hearing, Sampson SECONDED and MOTION
PASSED UNANIMOUSLY, H,earing .no comments . from the floor,. Holdsworth.
MOVED to chose the Public Hearing, Romanowski SECONDED' and MOTION
PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
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Romanowski MOVED approval of division of the lot at 723 Cascadilla
Street as requested by Mr. Novarr contingent upon receipt of the
survey. Moran SECONDED and MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
3 . Approval of Minutes
Minutes of the July meeting were unavailable die to the illness
of the recording secretary . Van Cort said they owuld be sent out
as soon as possible . The issue was tabled.
4 . Privilege of the Floor : No comments were issued from the floor .
5 . Communications : None.
6. Chair Report : None.
7. Committees ' Reports : None . Cummings noted that the subject
of the Laboratory Facility had been passed on to the BZA. Van Cort
said that in cases of interpretation , the BZA is not required
to get a recommendation from the Planning Board. Hoard said the
BZA felt they had enough information to proceed with an interpre-
tation . In matter of interpretation , the P&D Board cannot hold
the material thirty days for study . Van Cort said that Planner
Jon Meigs has since written to City Attorney Tavelli about this
matter but has not yet received a reply .
8 . Directors Report : Van Cort said he would report on the 1984
Budget Request under New Business ,
9. Staff Reports : None,
10. New Business
Romanowski noted that Jason Fane had begun construction on
Dryden Road, Van Cort said that Gus Lambrou had begun constrion
also.
a. Preliminary` subdiwisibh , '511r13 Spencer Road
Phil Lewis said he wanted to buy the propetty at 511-513 Spencer
Road and subdivide it to create three parcels , Two of the lots
would be sold to family members and the third would possibly be
developed in the future, He added that he has no immediate plans
,for development but , given the zoning area, the building of a
private house would be permitted, No final survey has been done
but he would proceed with the survey without approval . An amiable
settlement was achieved with his neighbor' Mr , Fudge over the boun-
dary line running through the middle of a creek and culvert , He
said that it was under the advisement of his attorney and Mr. Meigs
that the request for subdivision of an additional legally developable
parcel be done at this .time, Holdsworth asked if there would be
difficulty with the shared driveway , Lewis said no but that in
the long run he might build another driveway for the other house ,
Van Cort said staff recommended approval of this subdivision
request ,
Holdsworth MOVED approval of the subdivision of 511-513 Spencer
Road as requested by Mr. Lewis . Sampson SECONDED and MOTION PASSED
UNANIMOUSLY.
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b) 1984 Departmental Budget 'Request
Van Cort summarized the Planning Department 's 1984 budget request .
Referring to .a July 29, 1983 memo to Elva Holman, Chair of the
B&A Committee, he said that the department 's request is for'.
$178,201 . Van Cort pointed. out that between 1977 and 1983, the
departmental budget had increased at' approximately ;1% per :year
while :the City 's budget has increased at roughly 7% per year
over'the same period. He noted, tha:t. the rumours of large .increases
in. spending .by the department are unfounded. Romanowski suggested .
that the confusion might arise because.-of the grants funds handled
by the Planning Department Between .1976 and 1982. the Department
has been responsible for securing grants amounto $7,600 ,000 --
much more than ten times the .annual budget of t e department for-
each of those years`.
Discussion followed. Holdsworth, quest ioned the r°equest for Fees
for Professional `.Services. Van. Cort said that $7',000 of that
request ($12,000) is contingent upon receipt of.. a .NYSCA grant
for two positions for the 1LPC. This amount mustbe included'
in the budget to show NYSCA that the City is serious . A :;represen-
tative. from NYSCA will be in Ithaca in November to review the City's
request for matching funds and Van .Cort added that it is also hoped
that State funds will be available in 1.983 to help fund these positions.
$3,000 is for summer;, students,: and part time assistants Half
of the salaries of .the students under the work-study program are
funded by Cornell and Federal funds -with the City picking up the
remaining 50%. He added that :some of the young people that have
worked in the department have done .very fine work. The remaining
$2,000 is for outside assistance, generated mostly by requests
from the Common Council -
Holdsworth questioned footnote #2 , pertaining to the part-time
senior .steno . He said that he,'thought the personnel manual had
changed part time .jobs to mean 20 hours per week. Van Cort said.
he would- check into this .
Van Cort said that the form is a standardized budget form and
noted a typo in the 1110.01' line : $61,613 should be moved up a
space to "Staff Salaries" . He added that the Office Expenses,
line "425 is a combination of what were in the past several
lines , including office supplies , . publications and. dues , He also
said he should have split Travel and Mileage (line 1144511) to add
funds to Staff Development , (line 11440".) , The split would be
.about 50/50: In the narrative , this split is mentioned.
, Discussion followed on the copying machine., Van Cort said that
in the past it seemed more expedient . to pay the entire cost of
running themachine but n(V counters have been given to the divi
cions on the 2nd floor so that it is easier to account for use.
Cummings asked what the process was from this point Van Cora said
that the request ,.would now go the Mayor who would then put together
his own budget which in turn would. go to -the B&A Committee who .would
next make a recommendation to Council . Council would then take
this recommendation to use in making up its own budget and return
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this to the Mayor . The Mayor , at this point , can approve or veto
all or any part of the budget .
Cummings asked what was the Planning Board+s role in this
process and Van Cort said action was not mandatory but that it
would be appropriate if the Board could comment or endorse it or
whatever was felt appropriate.
Gerkin questioned the effect of the copying machine on the department 's
budget . Van Cort said that that though in the past he had taken
care of all the costs even though the machine was used by the entire
second floor , with the counters the costs can be shared by each
division 's use. If Council wants to return to the old system, Van Cort
said, he would have to request more funds in this line . He also
added that there would be no incentive to copy anywhere else for
other departments because copying would be free for them in the
P&D, Gerkin said that the new system seemed more advantageous to
Planning. Van Cort agreed and thanked Board members for their
comments , If any member had additional suggestions , he said, he
would appreciate a call or a not to this effect.
10 Zoning Appeals Review
Cummfngs noted that Appeal 1521 ,: WTKO Radio/"VVF Cominunicat'ions was
postponed. The written materials have been submitted , New notices
will be required to be sent out . Van Cort will get in touch with
Tom Hoard on this matter .
APPEAL 1515 ; Appeal of M. Sidle for Area Variances (deficient front
and side yard setbacks) , to permit construction of a deck at the
rear of the single family house at 211 Lincoln Street , in an R-.2b
district in which the existing use is permitted.
Mr . Sidle. appelant , appeared on this appeal's behalf ,
Planning Issues ; Land use is permitted and appropriate,
The deck would increase the amenity of the house.
It would not impair visual quality of the property .
Appellant Comment ; Mr . Sidle stated that the area deficiency dates
back to the 1900 's but the variance, if issued,
would be within the guidelines. of the ordinance
and would not change the character of the district .
The proposed deck will replace the existing porch.
Staff Recommendation ; Approval ,
Hoard Discussion and Comment . Holdsworth noted that any further
building on the deck, such as a roof , or walls ,
would require another variance . If approved,
only the deck could be built . Cummings said
that any addition requiring a building permit
would necessitate another variance. Sampson
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asked what was the definition of a deck. The
Zoning Manual does not include this term. Van
Cort said that maybe the term is included in the
more comprehensive sets of laws used by the
Building Department . Any addition , however, to
the basic structure , will require review.
. Public Comment : Leonard Ferris of 104 Short Street said that though
he was the only neighbor to show up, no one objected
to the addition of the deck. The present back
porch, he said , was insufficient for the Sidle
family 's use and no one objected to the plans
for the deck. He said he supported the appeal .
Van Cort presented a letter from John Listar of
210 West. Lincoln Street stating no objections
to replacing the present back porch with the deck.
Board Recommendation : Holdsworth MOVED to recommend approval .
Moran SECONDED . PASSED 5-0 .
APPEAL 1516 : Appeal of B. Yonkin for Area Variance (deficient
setback for second front yard) to permit conversion of the single-
family dwelling at 402 Hancock Street in a R--3a district in which
the proposed use as a two-family dwelling is permitted.
Brian Yonkin , appellant , appeared on behalf of this appeal .
Planning Issues : The land use is permitted and compatible .
Will financially improve the ownerts ability
to maintain the property .
The conversion of this house to two iunits is
a permitted use.
No significant effect .will be generated to
either traffic circulation or parking. There
is adequate space for required on-site parking.
Effects to the long--range planning objectives of
the City will be to add to the housing stock.
Appellant Comment : Yonkin intends to live in one unit of the house..
INNS is overseeing the conversion work.
Public Comment: Ben Curtis of INNS said that he is monitoring the
construction and standards of the work being
done by Yonkin . Work must be completed within
18 months according to HUD regulations regarding
INHS loans .
Staff Recommendation : Approval .
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Board Comments and Recommendation : Cummings expressed concern
over the long term effects of conversion of
single family homes in this area to two units .
Although the immediate purpose is to provide
much needed housing increases , what will happen
when the homeowner leaves? Would an absentee
landlord buy the building? She said that this
is the beginning of a trend that the board should
keep in consideration .
Holdsworth MOVED to recommend approval . Gerkin
SECONDED. PASSED 5-0
APPEAL 1517 : Appeal of E. D. Hare for Area Variances (deficient
lot size , front , side and rear yard setbacks) to permit addition
to the rear of the single-family house at 129 H ers Street in a
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R-2b district where the proposed use is permitted.
Edmund D. Hare, appellant , appeared regarding this appeal .
Planning Issues : Improves the amenity of existing housing.
Addition is visible from adjacent properties .
Assessment map indicates 129 Hyers is combined
with a lot on South Plain Street and is actually
L-shaped , with a total of 3465 SF.--This may also
eliminate the rear yard deficiency leaving only
front and side deficiencies unchanged .
Appellant Comment : The house is too small for the family (7 children) .
Mr . Hare will be adding a family room and two
extra bedrooms . The existing deficiencies have
existed since the house was built .
Public Comment : None ,
Staff Recommendation Approval .
Board Recommendation : Holdsworth MOVED to recommend approval .
Gerkin SECONDED. PASSED 5-0.
Sampson asked why no elevations for the plans
were included. Van Cort said that while the
Zoning Ordinance calls for this provision of
plans and elevations , building permits are
given out without elevations because small jobs
are often undertaken without elevations . The
Board agreed they would be useful because they
could approve one thing whichcouldturn out
to be. entirely different with regards to
height . Cummings said she thought it was
a requirement . Holdsworth said that in projects
where the owner would be doing most of the work
himself and would not be hiring an architect ,
this might be difficult . Cummings said that a
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simple sketch would be adequate.
APPEAL 1518 : Appeal of M. and N. Pan for a Use Variance to permit
construction of a 19-Unit motel at 367 Elmira Road, behind the ex-
isting Pan An Restaurant . The portion of the property on which
the proposed motel would be built is in an R-2z district in which
a motel is not permitted; therefore the appellants must
obtain a variance before a permit can be issued for construction
of the motel .
Architect Bob Boehlecke and Nancy Pan , Appellant , appeared on behalf
of this appeal .
Planning Issues : Use is not permitted but may be compatible with
the area.
Would substantially increase property value,
property and the sales tax returns .
Some increase in traffic related to the site
but entrances and exits would be from the Elmira
Road.
There would be some increased demand for utilities
and servi&es due to the intensified use but this
would not be significant . The motel would not
be visible from the Elmira Road and could be well-
screened from Spencer Road.
The adjacent uses on both sides are commercial
so the nature of the activity is unlikely to have
.any effect on Spencer Road.
A sign will probably be needed on Elmira Road .
The surface drainage impacts of this proposed
development may affect the adjacent property .
Development of this site for residential or other
permitted use is feasible . The proposal amounts
to seeking a zoning change by variance and is
close to spot-zoning . However , because of the
the situation of the property to the northeast
it might be desirable to consider area zoning
changes .
If rezoned by variance, it might provide a precedent
for de facto rezoning, thus reducing the effectiveness
.of zoning as a control and guide .
Appellant Comment : Boehlecke said that two thirds of the lot in
question is zoned R-2a and has no potential for
permitted development because of the steep bank
to the property from Spencer Street and also be-
cause it is surrounded by commercial use properties .
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Boehlecke 's proposed one--story motel would
be similar to the surrounding development and
could be screened from the Spencer Road residen-
t'ial
esiden--t.ial area by the steep bank. He said that logically
the whole lot should be rezoned to B-5, The rest
of the property is in compliance. The smaller
parcel is at present a dead weight for the Pans .
Public Comment : None .
Staff Comment and Recommendation : Van Cort agreed that rezoning
was a consideration . He said that there are no
buildings across form the lot on Spencer Road
but he noted that rezoning is a lengthy process .
The possibility of this becoming a precedent
for de facto rezoning by variance must also be
considered and he said that staff recommendation
would be to deny the appeal in order to protect
the edges of this zone .
Board Comment and Recommendation : Cummings said she was surprised
that there was no public comment , Usually Spencer
- Road citizens are very concerned about any
changes in the neighborhood. This lack. of response
is possibly due to the fact that motices went
out to the required properties within 200 feet
which missed the residential properties further on.
Holdsworth noted that rezoning would allow a
four-story motel ; a variance was more protection
for the neighborhood. He said that if the board
approved the appeal , Boehlecke would be tied to
the existing drawings.
Holdsworth MOVED recommendation td approve the
appeal on the condition that there be no access
from Spencer Road. Gerkin SECONDED. PASSED 5-0.
APPEAL 1519 Appeal of H. A . Fish, Jr , , d/b/a/ Southside FuelCompany
for a use variance under Section 30.25, Column 2 (permitted uses) and
Section 30.47 (extension or an enlargement of a non-conforming use) to
permit construction of an addition to the existing building at
815 South Aurora Street (Southside Fuel Company) for garaging
and washing of company vehicles . The property is in an RL-3b district
in which the existing use of fuel storage and sales is not permitted;
however, the business was in operation on this site prior to
annexation of the area by the City and is therefore a legal non-
conforming use A non -conforming use can be enlarged only if variance
is obtained under Sections 30 .49 and 30, 25 . Previous appeals (#1504
and #1513) were denied by the BZA in July and August . The Appellant
is returning with evidence to demonstrate that , with the new
construction , the total square footage of these buildings will be
within the total, square footage of the buildings that were destroyed
by fire in 1980 . .
H. A. Fish, appellant, appeared on behalf of .this appeal .
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Planning Issues : This appeal has new information based on the fire
damage sustained in April , 1980 .
The site is ample to provide separation from the
adjacent residential properties.
It is a viable , legally non--conforming use .
From an abstract viewpoint , the activity 's compa-
tibility with other , permitted uses in the vicinity ,
according to the Zoning Ordinance and City 's' General
Plan, is inappropriate . However, in practical
perspective, its presence does not appear to have
inhibited development of a substantial and
well maintained residential neighborhood immediately
around it . Physical distance between these
different land uses is likely a primary reason
for this situation and thus , where there is no
expansion of the operation in size over the
previous plan , or relocation closer to residential
uses , there seems to be no reason to deny the
appeal .
Appellant Comment : This appeal was originally heard in June and
recommended by the P&D Board for approval .
However, it was subsequently denied by the BZA
who now refuse to hear this new appeal which
is based on a new formation .
Public Comment : None .
Staff Recommendation : Approval.
Board Recommendation : Holdsworth MOVED to recommend approval .
Sampson SECONDED. PASSED 5-0 .
APPEAL 1520 : Request of Project Growing Hope , Inc . for Interpretation
of the Zoning Ordinance under Section 30 .24 , Column 2 ' (permitted
primary uses) to determine whether neighborhood gardens are permitted
as a primary use in Residential , Industrial and Public zones .
The Building Commissioner has ruled that as a primary or sole use ,
neighborhood gardens would be permitted as of righ in P-1 and 'I-1 use
districts, but not in Residential districts , and recommended that
Applicant seek an interpretation .
There was no one present to represent this request .
Holdsworth stated that the board does not typically give legal
opinions on zoning. Cummings said legal interpretation is not
strictly being requested. Van Cort said that as it has to do with
neighborhood impact , staff thought the board might want to consider
the issue .
Discussion followed, Holdsworth said that if the properties were going
to belong to the City , each site could be considered separately
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by Council and the gardeners evicted if need changed or if the
site was not kept up . Van Cort said he would check this with
Tom Hoard. He added that the BZA might act despite the lack
of action of the Planning and Development Board .
13 . Miscellaneous : None
14 . Adjournment : Romanowski MOVED to adjourn the meeting at 9 : 50 ,
Holdsworth SECONDED and MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY .
Respectfully Submitted ,
Natalie de Combray
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