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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMN-IURACDC-1979-10-01 . IURA/CDA SPECIAL MEETING OCTOBER 1 , 1979 5:00 PM COMMON COUNCIL CHAMBERS PRESENT: Edward Conley, Mayor, Chairman, IURA/CDA Anne Jones, IURA/CDA Clarence Reed, IURA/CDA Jim Dennis , IURA/CDA Kathe Evans, CD Staff H.M. Van Cort, P&D Phil Cox, DPW, Engineering PRESS Old Business 1 . Discussion of GIAC improvements and Resolution to approve contractor and begin work. A Resolution authorizing the IURA to approve the Novarr-Mackesey bid for GIAC exterior repair was introduced by CD staff. Van Cort recommended approval of the resolution due to the following risks : the risk of losing the bid due to inflation, the potential jeopardy to the drawdown schedule, the fact that some %repairs cannot be put off and the possibility of losing the money. He said that even if the building were sold, these capital improvements would remain to benefit IURA/CDA community goals. Conley stated that he saw no problems in dealing with the Board of Education. He said that the repairs could be included in their depreciation schedule as these capital improvements enhance the property. Jones asked what negotiations to buy the building had come to and Conley said that the City and IURA/CDA had suggested an offer but that to date no meeting had taken place. Conley pointed out that .the work had`gone :out to bid twice already. He noted _that :the weather was running out and added that in the best interests of their relationship with the contractor, they should pass the resolution. Reed said he was uncomfortable about putting public funds into the building when the fate of the building was still uncertain. Conley said that Mr. Dingman had written to the School Board to say that the renovation items were items of maintenance, He said that from Dingman's standpoint, this is correct but said that due to the delicate upcoming negotiations, it would have been better to have discussed the letter before sending it. He added that as the School Board is aware of the goals of the IURA/CDA, he is sure they will be helpful . IURA/CDA October 1 , 1979 PAGE 2 Cox indicated that in the past the School Board had asked if improvements benefitted the school or GIAC. He said that when the rooms are rearranged for GIAC use, that the Board of Education..will probably not allow depreciation. Conley said that the preservation of the building including roof repair, fire escape repair, and re-pointing justify these improvements. Cox asked what the intention was when improvement plans were made. Jones said she had understood that ownership of the building would have been straightened out. Reed said he was afraid that the improvements would enhance the property so as to jack up the price. If we bought it, he said, we would be paying twice. Conley said he hoped that on the contrary, the cost of improvements would be considered in the selling price. Cox said it would be better to spend the 1st year money as it is unclear how the 2nd year funds are to be allocated. Conley asked how our inability to spend 1st year funds would affect HUD and Evans said that though HUD wants the money to move, a confirmed bid is satisfactory. She said that, unlike Small Cities Funds, the Entitlement grant can be spent beyond the. ont year for which application is made: Van Cort said it was better to have spent the money than to have a contract. Evans pointed out that the GIAC Purchase Resolution of March 19, 1979 stated that the contemplated renovations under the Small Cities grant program did not comply with State Board of Education requirements. She said at that time it was realised that pay back on most of these improvements would be nil . Reed suggested that a meeting with Backer be arranged and Conley said he would set one up for Evans, Van Cort and himself the following day. Dennis .MOVEO,to7pass the resolution, Reed SECONDED and MOTION PASSED. 2. Approval of extension on Leather's contract. Evans explained that because of unforeseen difficulties , Robert Leathers was unable to complete Wood St. and Conway Parks improvements by October 1 , 1979. Conley said he understood the circumstances and encouraged the IURA/CDA to , support the resolution amending Appendix A of the contract with Leathers to list project completion as December 1 , 1979. Reed MOVED to pass the resolution, Jones SECONDED and MOTION PASSED. R IURA/CDA October 1 , 1979 PAGE 3 3. Review and Approval of Neighborhood Improvements Projects, 1st part, phase 1 . Evans distributed a description of Part I , Phase I Neighborhood Improvements bids to be opened October 24 at 11 :00 A.M. She said that specs are avail- able ati:the office if anyone wants to look at them. Conley asked if Wood St. Park site improvements would affect additional Section 8 housing in that area and Evans said it would enhance the neighborhood. Reed asked how the handicap survey was progressing and Evans said the Human Services Coalition survey would be finished by the end of October and that a report of it would be ready for the IURA/CDA December meeting. She said that the Development of Accessibility Guide to the City would be out in the Spring. Jones MOVED that the IURA/CDA direct the Planning and Development Department of the Urban Renewal Agency staff to put Part I , Phase I of Neighborhood Improvements out to bid and to solicit comments from the Board and the Department of Public Works. Dennis SECONDED. MOTION PASSED. Administration 1 . Copes of State Department of Audit and Control Audit Report distributed to IURA/CDA members Evans presented the State Department of Audit and Control Audit Report on procedures and practices used in the Community Development commision for review for the next meeting. Van Cort noted that this was a fiscal and not a program audit. He said that steps were being taken to correct some faults in the findings and he sug- gested that the IURA/CDA officially accept the audit at the next meeting. 2. Approval of $2000 share for ILPC position. Source: S111 . Van Cort presented a resolution to approve the $2000 of CD funds to be contributed towards the $8500 for a one year's ILPC staff position. Evans said that this staff person might do investigation into ways to free money for the AME Zion church. Jones MOVED and Dennis SECONDED to accept the resolution and MOTION PASSED. IURA/CDA Ocotber 1 , 1979 PAGE 4 Van Cort mentioned that he would like to investigate the possibility of transfering the management of the Cherry Street Industrial Park to the IURA. He said that he was awaiting response from the FmHA and the ARC before making a recommendation. Dennis asked what would be on the October 15 Agenda and Evans said it would be long. Conley suggested that the IURA/CDA hold a special meeting to discuss Ithaca Center site proposals and after discussion it was decided to hold such a meeting on Tuesday, October 9. Chambers. Meeting was adjourned at 6:30. Respectfully Submitted, Approved, ra*Al- k4/44j- Natalie de Combray Kathe Evans CD Secretary Housing Specialist )42(- 61 L IURA/CDA SPECIAL MEETING TUESDAY , Oct . 9, 1979 7 : 30 P .M. Planning & Development Office PRESENT: James Dennis , IURA/CDA Clarence Reed, IURA/CDA Stuart Stein , IURA/CDA Anne Jones , IURA/CDA Kathe Evans , CD Staff Thys Van Cort , P&D Mayor Edward Conley, Chairman IURA/CDA Press 1 . Ithaca Center Site Van Cort presented project evaluations forms for each of the potential developers under consideration for conditional preferred sponsorship of the Ithaca Center project . He stressed that the assigned scores were subjective and that IURA/CDA members might have different opinions as to the ratings or weights given to each factor o, developer. In a memo attached to the forms, Van Cort recommended that the City engage the services of an experienced development professional to assist in choosing the best development program, selecting a developer, negotiating a contract , and working with the developer to assure that a project be built that comple- ments the best site in downtown Ithaca. Van Cort further stated that none of the potential developers has yet given the entire information requested . Jones asked if there was an implication that no more informa- tion would be forthcoming and Van Cort said no , that each developer had promised to furnish the required information. But , Van Cort said, if the IURA/CDA and the Planning Depart- ment continues to ask the developers to expend time and money on compiling extra information , then the agency is obliged to choose one of the three . He said that every additional request further obligates to choose among them. Conley asked if the evaluation could be misleading to the press and Van Cort said that a determination must be made as to which developer is most adequate. He repeated that the evaluation was subjective and does not mean to imply that one proposal is better than another. He said that the market- ing aspect is critical . Stein agreed that the first priority is the marketing ability and he said that a lot of stress has been put on the looks of the structure but that experience has taught the importance IURA/CDA October 9 , 1979 Page 2 of finding a developer able to carry through . He noted that design was generally stressed higher than in previous years but asked how they can tell which developer can produce . Conley said that none of the developers had discussed their approach to marketing nor what kind of tenants would rent the space. He said he thought all the designs were good. Conley said each of the developers had called him and that he had told them more information was needed in the area of marketing. Reed suggested taking action to give an idea of the IURA/CDA' s intentions with regards to developer designation . He said a marketing survey should be done to get community input and suggested media assistance . He said that to designate a developer at this meeting would be like going ahead without community support and he said he would like to hear from the Downtown Business Association , the Commons Advisory Board and the man in the street . Conley said a preferred developer needs a designation soon in order to put his final plan together but he did not feel able to make a decision at this meeting. He said assistance was needed to make a survey and suggested perhaps getting a Urban Development Action Grant . Van Cort said a marketing survey is available from highly skilled people on a per diem basis. He added that some C.D. money could be re-programmed for an economic study. Evans said that reprogramming would take more than 96 days to move more than 10% of any Entitlement Year . She reminded the Agency that it had taken three months to reprogram Peri- pheral Streets. Van Cort said that they had waited 6 years on the project and that in comparison 90 days were nothing. He added that a market study is usually the cornerstone of any marketing plan. After further discussion , it was decided that Van Cort would write to the developers thanking them for their proposals but stating that the submissions were incomplete. He would also discuss surveys with marketing consultants and with the UDC and report back to the Agency on his findings . IURA/CDA October 9, 1979 Page 3 2 . Signature Cards Evans passed around 2 authorized signature cards for payment voucher on Letter of Credit . She explained that the previous cards had not been filled out correctly because directions on how to complete them had not been received from H.U.D . Evans , Van Cort , Stein and Jones are authorized signators. C.D. Administrative Manual Van Cort passed around a draft of the 1st Chapter of the Administrative Manual for review and discussion at the next meeting. The meeting was adjourned at 10 : 00 Respectfully submitted, Approved, ELL-, Natalie de Combray Katherine Evans ;I IURA/CDA MINUTES REGULAR MEETING OCTOBER 15, 1979 5:00 P.M. - Council Chambers PRESENT: Mayor E. Conley, Chairman IURA/CDA Anne Jones , IURA/CDA Stuart Stein, IURA/CDA Clarence Reed, IURA/CDA Kathe Evans, CD Staff Thys Van Cort, Planning & Development Dept. Press Mayor Conley called the meeting to order at 5:10. Minutes Approval of the Minutes was postponed until the next meeting. New Business I. Fresentation and Discussion of Section 8 Family Housing by Sawtooth Builders Conley said he did not know that the IURA/CDA was involved in Section 8 Housing. He said he had been working with the Ithaca Housing Authority in developing 100 new Section 8 units and asked that this developer be given a chance to make a presentation too. Stein asked if the monthly rental included utilities and Evans said yes. The eligible family or individual pays 25% of their income for the housing and the Housing Authority makes up the difference. She said that the contract rent includes mortgage and interest for the unit, utilities , taxes, and a small maintenance/repair allowance. Jonathan Cottrell of local construction firm Sawtocth Builders presented plans for a 38 unit housing cooperative on a site to be designated by the City of Ithaca. Hi said that the project was designed to bring a different dimension to city housing and an alternative to the City as landlord. In a cooperative, he said, the tenants are shareholders that own the building. With reasonable management , this system has proven to have longer durability in terms of tenant interest and upkeep. Van Cort noted that the term "Co-Op" refers to the form of ownership. Individuals own shares of the corporation that owns the building. Cottrell said that banks can charge corporate interest rates on the mortgages and are thus inclined to provide loans. Van Cort asked how Section 8 is coupled with Co-Op Housing and asked if there are percentage restrictions. IURA/CDA MINUTES OCTOBER 15, 1979 Page 2 Evans said that H.U.D. prefers mixed units and suggests 1/3 occupancy to be Section 8 and the rest market occupancy. She said that IHA has requested 145 public housing new construction, scattered site units so that 5/1 family units would be left for this project. Referring to the Sawtooth Handout, Dennis asked where 213 funds come from and Cottrell said that the developer applies directly to H.U.D. . He said that the site chosen as an example (The Cayuga Inlet) was in the city because of the present energy crisis. Evans noted that H.U.D. would advise as to which proposed site can be used. She said she had sent H.U.D. a map locating possibilities and said she would distribute these maps to Agency members. Conley said that the IURA/CDA should view the proposal as a concept bafit that formal submissions should be made to the Planning Board. Evans pointed out to Mayor Conley that the IURA/CDA was ultimately responsible for meeting HAP goals and she understood the Agency must recommend site designation to Council for final approval. Cottrell said that• preliminary engineering studies of the flood plain had been done and that construction could be achieved without heavyweight found- ' ations . Bruce Dalstrom, architect for Sawtooth, further described the housing plans. He said that elderly and handicapped persons would be housed on the first floor and pointed out solar energy features of the plan. He also noted that though the apan.tment areas were small, skylights and sloped ceilings were featured to create interest. Conley asked how the Agency should proceed and Van Cort asked authorization to find a site. Conley said others would like to make presentations and Stein asked why there should be competition since several developers would be needed to meet the goal. Stein said the IURA/CDA was interested in the concept and suggested they join with the Planning and Development Board to organize and negotiate for units and find a site. Conley asked if Section 8 could be put in ih e Ithaca Center site and said that the Planning Board, the Ithaca Housing Authority and the IURA/CDA should meet together to discuss this idea. Reed praised the concept and asked what the proposed construction materials were. Dalstrom said it would be double walled masonry and wood frame. He said that each two units would cost ,66,000. IURA/CDA MINUTES OCTOBER 15, 1979 Page 3 After discussion, it was decided to arrange joint IURA/CDA, IHA, and Planning and Development Board meetings to further discussion. 2. E.O.C. Report on Citywide Materials Grant Program Evans presented the E.O.C. quarterly report that indicated information on resident grant awards under the Citywide Materials Grants. This program provides up to $1000 to low income people for home repairs. She asked that the Agency accept the report. Dennis asked if the entire 1st year Small Cities funds budgeted for this project could be spent in time. Evans said yes , that a turnover in staff held things up but that now things would move along. Stein MOVED to accept the report, Dennis SECONDED and MOTION PASSED. Old Business 1. Ithaca Center - Continuation of Discussion begun on October 9, 1979 Van Cort said that the thank you letter to developers would be going out the next day and said he was continuing negotiations with the American Cities Corporation on market survey proposals. He said no headway as yet had been made with UDC. Conley said that since the last meeting, he had requests from all of the developers to sit and have further interviews. All were concerned with getting along with the project,the Mayor said. 2. Contract - Historic Preservation Evans presented a copy of the ILPC-CDA Contract for an ILPC Staff Coordinator. She said that $2000 of CD funds would be contributed to the position. The job would be to coordinate activities between INNS, Historic Ithaca, ILPC and the City Planning and Development Department. The job would also include assistance with regards to the restoration of the St. James AME Church. Dennis MOVED to approve the contract contingent upon City Attorney's approval. Stein SECONDED. Jones asked how one could figure out if the staff person would meet the IURA/ CDA requirements and Dennis suggested putting the goals on paper. MOTION PASSED. IURA/CDA MINUTES OCTOBER 15, 1979 Page 4 3 Reprogramming and Discussion of City Crew Sources of Funds - January 1980- Evans asked that the IURA/CDA approve a resolution to reprogram the $40,000 from Peripheral Streets II to the INHS City Work Crew ($20,000) , and to C.D. Administration ($20,000) . She said the Peripheral Streets II funds could not be used for that project because work began on the streets before the funds were released. The $20,000 reprogrammed to administration would be used for market consultant services and for other administrative purposes. She said that approval was needed iirrorer to begin the 90 day reprogramming process. Jones asked how much staff time and cost in ads was required for reprogramming and Evans said it took about 70 staff hours. Evans also suggested finding out from H.U.D. if the $30,000 budgeted for restoration of the St. James AME Zion Church could be reprogrammed to INHS Loans and Grants. Van Cort said he thought this was a good idea. He noted that govenment legal problems were holding up progress of this project and said that as a result, if funds were not used, the C.D. program was being penalized. He thought Evans suggestion was good as it was a way to keep the money. Stein asked if the money would be recoverable later for restoration of the c hurch. Evans said that Art Pearce thought the money could be used as loann now and later returned to AME Zion. Conley asked that Pearce reply in writing. Stein MOVED to approve reprogramming of Parallel Streets II funds into INNS City Crew and C.D. Administration. Jones SECONDED and MOTION PASSED. Administration 1. Discussion - Management Report - Chapter I of Administrative Guidelines- Community Development Agency Van Cort introduced Kerry Korpi who was responsible for writing the Draft of the Personnel Manual under the direction of Van Cort and Evans. He asked that changes be made on pages 8 and 9 regarding reimbursements related to employment in that the following sentence-be added: All travel must be authorized in advance by the Executive Director. Reed MOVED to adopt, with the above addition, the draft. Dennis SECONDED and MOTION PASSED. y-- IURA/CDA MINUTES OCTOBER 15, 1979 Page 5 After discussion, it was decided to continue the agenda at a special meeting on Monday, October 29, at 5:00 in Council Chambers. Mayor Conley adjourned the meeting at 6:30. Respectfully Submitted, Approved, rid t k) Natalie de Combray Katherine Evans • • Athl-2=2,-+ PMINUTES IURA/CDA Council Chambers October 29, 1979 PRESENT: Mayor E. J. Conley, Chairman IURA/CDA Anne Jones , IURA/CDA Stuart Stein, IURA/CDA, Clarence Reed, IURA/CDA Kathe Evans, CD STaff Thys Van Cort, P&D Doug Lewis , Maxfield, Randolph & Carpenter Jerry Mickelsen, Maxfield, Randolph & Carpenter James Dennis, IURA/CDA Press Mayor Conley called the meeting to order at 5:10. Minutes Approval Reed MOVED to approve the Minutes of the September 19, October 1 , October 9 and October 15, 1979, meetings. Jones SECONDED and MOTION PASSED. Old Business Response to State Audit Evans commented on her memo to IURA/CDA members of October 26, 1979 and said that staff will be seeking advice from an auditing firm on how to implement the double entry account system. She noted that Sciarabba & Walker do not maintain accounts on the accrual system but that C.D. staff, since May 1979, have used this system, Van Cort said that he and Evans have discussed financial management and will return to the Agency with a recommendation to seek counseling on how to perfect the system. Conley said that the City uses the double entry system. He mentioned that he knows of other communities, when Federal funds are misused, that the City has to reimburse the Federal government. He asked thtt CD staff provide copies of the annual audit to the City Controller in order that all State requirements are met. Conley added that perhaps city employees could assist CD staff in implementing the double entry account system, Van Cort said that when the City was in control of the CD finances, they didn 't understand HUD requirements. State report formats were not filled out. Evans noted that the accountants and CD staff supervising accountants were unaware of these requirements, Van Cort said that both Federal and State concerns must be answered within one system. • IURA/CDA MINUTES OCTOBER 29, 1979 Page 2 Jerry rickelsen of Maxfield , Randolph and Carpenter, said that although HUD does not require the double entry system, it is preferable for all businesses. Evans said the accrual system is important in order to keep up to the moment track of unencumbered funds. In response to a question by Conley, Evans explained that Maxfield Randolph and Car- penter were auditing the work ofSciarabba and Walker on the 3rd and 4th Year Entitlement Funds. Sciarabba and Walker had been responsible for the 1st and 2nd Year audit. Conley said that it was crucial to maintain community trust and said everything must be done to keep the public from criticizing the IURA/CDA's use of funds. Evans said that HUD will judge the Agency's present performance when deciding whether to grant approval of ?uture applications. Conley said he wanted a reply from HUD acknowledging IURA/CDA response to audit findings. Stein MOVED that the IURA/CDA accept the staff statements in response to the State Audit and direct staff to fill out and send State required forms on CD. He further moved to send a full letter of explanation and response to the three comments by the auditors with a request that a reply be sent from HUD. Jones SECONDED, MOTION PASSED. Audit Report - 3rd and 4th Year Entitlement Evans said that the firm of Maxfield, Randolph and Carpenter had been hired in February, 1979, to do the audit of 3rd and 4th Year Entitlement and to look at funds and procedures in making financial payments. She introduced Doug Lewis and Jerry Mickelsen who were present to discuss their findings. Lewis summed up the report and discussed the accompanying letter of recommendation. He stressed that the audit was of expenses accumulated through May, 1979 and said that no incorrect financial procedures had been found. He noted an improvement in the accounting of transactions but said that the double entry modified accrual system was recommended. After his summation, Lewis asked for questions from the Agency. Evans referred the Agency to the CD Progress Report included with the meeting handouts. Stein asked for clarification of the difference of reporting of the June 1st through May 31 , 1979, and Lewis explained that HUD required the 4 column format when a prior audit was being looked at. The 3rd and 4th Years had only been audited by the Maxfield Randolph and Carpenter firm so only required the three columns. Stein then asked for an example of a questioned cost and Lewis said it would be anything that didn't follow explicit HUD guidelines s"ch as the lack of an Environmental Impact statement, etc. The auditors wo. id then be obliged to bring these questions to HUD' s attention. He noted however that no costs had been questioned, IURA/CDA MINUTES OCTOBER 29, 1979 Pane 3 Conley asked how the IURA/CDA could be sure of living up to HUD standards such as Affirmative Action, etc, and Evans said this was handled through HUD program monitoring. Van Cort pointed out that though the HUD program audit was seemingly cursory, the slightest item of missing information would mean the end of the program. Lewis said some problems resulted in lack of documentation of the Request for Checks. He said all records should be kept in Agency hands, including canceled checks. Mickelsen said this was not currently important but must be implemented at the end of the fiscal year. He added that invoices should be kept alphabetically by vendor with a miscellaneous Alpha file for vendors on which there is not much activity. Lewis suggested remitting the $235.80 of interest received from the City of Ithaca Capital Construction Fund and discussion followed on how to return these monies. Evans said she would inquire of HUD as to the best procedure. Stein noted that the Banks make money if funds are not allowed to accumulate interest and Evans said that HUD was looking into new procedures to handle this problem. Conley asked if the audit signature (the name of the firm) was acceptable to HUD and Lewis said yes because each firm member was certified by the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants. Evans said further HUD requirements asked that Small Cities funds through May 31 , 1979 be audited. She requested the Agency to amend the contract with Maxfield, -. Randolph and Carpenter to include the above and approve addition of $250.00 to the cost of services. Jones so MOVED, Stein SECONDED and MOTION PASSED, Stein MOVED that the Agency accept theAudit Report and that staff prepare a response. Reed SECONDED and MOTION PASSED. Mickelsen and Lewis said they were available for any future questions or to specifically review items on their report. Conley thanked them on behalf of the Agency for their help and suggestions. 1 Van Cort asked Agency permission to write a letter of thanks to Mr. Cafarello for the work he did. Permission was granted. New Business Contract Approval - Senior Citizens Center Evans presented a resolution asking approval for a contract between the Community Development Agency and the Tompkins County Senior Citizens Council for rehabilitation of the Senior Citizens Center roof. Coniav said the Center intended to buy the house next door, tear it down, and utilize the space for parking. Evans said that the NJ It- OCTOBER 29, 1979 Page 4 program expansion requires extra space and the Seniors were planning to buy the house next door. Conley said that the replacement of downtown housing for parking was contrary to everything the City was trying to achieve. He asked if relocation could be considered and suggested acquiring monies from the Older American Act to supplement CD funds. Evans said that Senior Center members were attached to the present location. The Board is committed to the building because of the special significance it has for some members. Jones asked what could be offered as an alternative and Evans said that she had made several proposals including parallel use of Central School space using $30,000 of 5th Year Entitlement funds set aside to renovate school space appropriate for Agency use. In addition, a 312 loan could be used at 3 interest to make necessary repairs. There is also what is left of the $7,000 for the Senior Center. Conley said he wanted_ to do something for senior citizens but asked if the Agency was commited to the $21 ,000 requested by the resolution. He noted the Center would have trouble obtaining a variance from the Board of Zoning Appeals and suggested using this money to renovate a more appropriate building. Reed suggested inviting Center members to a future Agency meeting in order to share concerns and discuss ideas. He said that in any case the roof does need to be repaired and that even if the building is sold it will build equity. After discussion, it was decided to postpone voting on the contract resolution until a meeting with Senior Center members could be arranged. Neighborhood Improvements Evans said the tree work would be completed by December 10th and the rest would begin in Spring of 1980. Reed MOVED to approve IURA/CDA contracts with Giordano Construcion Corporation and Gravinas Nurseries, pending HUD contractor clearance and review by the City Attorney.Stein SECONDED. MOTION PASSED. Reprogramming Using Contingency Funds Reed MOVED to reprogram $40,000 to INHS work crew ($20,000) and CD Administration (S20,000) . Stein SECONDED and MOTION PASSED. James Dennis was not present for this vote. Van Cort announced that Ron Oshier would be leaving the 312 program and said a person would have to be hired to take his place. With regards to the CD Coor- dinator. interviews,he asked for direction from the Agency in establing a starting salary. • :URRA 0D. =.77(" 11 _ _.. D:TODER 29, 1979 Pace 5 Conley said it was good policy that the Agency authorize the salary and said it should be put on the Agenda for the next regular meeting. Van Cart said he would notify members as to the interview schedule and urged they attend if possible. After discussion it was decided to have a special meeting on Thursday, November 8, at 5 :15 to discuss Ithaca Center. Van Cort said he had gotten figures from .lammister George on market consulting and said their rates run from S500 to S300 a day plus expenses. Conley said that this would be considered at the Special Meeting and adjourned this meeting at 6:55. Respectfully Submitted, Approved , Natalie de Combray Katherine Evans CD Secretary CD Housing Specialist