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HomeMy WebLinkAbout4_29_2020 Transcript Special Meeting4-29-2020 Special Enfield Town Board Meeting.mp3 Supervisor McGee ​[00:00:00] ​All right. I'll call the meeting to order. This is a special town board meeting. Wednesday, April twenty ninth. Twenty twenty, six thirty p.m., Enfield Town Board. We will have privilege of the floor shortly. All documents are available on the town Web site. All meetings for the Enfield Town Board are recorded. Are there any additions or changes to the agenda? Councilperson Redmond ​[00:01:55] ​No. Supervisor McGee ​[00:01:56] ​ok. Councilperson Lynch ​[00:02:04] ​The only question I raised was, is Mimi Mahaffey going to be here tonight? And if she's not. If she's not going to be here tonight? Because I heard that she might have to be. Supervisor McGee ​[00:02:16] ​Mimi, is not she's had she's had a death in the family, so she is not able to be here this evening. That she would be listed as excused. Councilperson Lynch ​[00:02:24] ​And that would be. And I wondered whether we might want to postpone any consideration of the term and length of terms and possible changes in the positions for highway superintendent and town clerk until Mimi can be here to participate? Supervisor McGee ​[00:02:46] ​It had not been my intention to move anything. Just introduce those ideas to the board. You've done the same. So if people wanted to chime in about that, then that's fine. They're welcome to do that. But it I I had not intended to move anything for any sort of action or anything this evening personally. If anybody else did, you can do that if you'd like. But I did not. Councilperson Lynch ​[00:03:11] ​I would not move anything in mimis' absence. Supervisor McGee ​[00:03:17] ​All right, so privilege of the floor. The document for meeting guidance and a procedure for privilege of the floor is available on the town Web site. Each speaker has three minutes and you need to address the entire board. With your comments. And what I'll do is anyone who has their hand raised in order that they are raised, then I will call on you and recognize you to speak. And then after that, anyone on the phone who was not able to utilize the raise your hand feature. I will open it up and unmute it so everybody can be heard. And I'll just ask if there's anyone else who would like to speak. So we can have as much participation as possible. OK, let's see... Ed Heatherington, are you there? Ed Hetherington ​[00:04:34] ​Yes I am. Thank you Beth. Supervisor McGee ​[00:04:36] ​Yeah. Hold on one second. Do you want me to have you on video? Ed Hetherington ​[00:04:41] ​Yes. That's fine. Thank you. All right. Thank you. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. And I also have a concern about the budget. Why is it that increases from the Deputy Supervisor of ninety two hundred dollars and the deputy town clerk raised to ten thousand. You seem to be messing around with the highway department budget, which was determined last year. You know, as well as many of town residents. And all you were doing is because of your dislike of the highway superintendent. You and the board members seem to enjoy harassing at least board member Lynch does not harrass the highway superintendent. The board needs to stop the harassment. Let Buddy Rollins do his job. I feel he does a good job in spite of the harrassment. Three, Beth, why have you not answered the question about if you're resigning or not? Four, one thing that irritates town residents is that we can make comments about our concerns, and you do not respond to the concerns. Cemetaries. Why are you not spending the thirty-five-hundred dollars that is budgeted? What is happening with the maintenance of the cemetaries? There are two positions on the board. Well, you seem to want to eliminate. Make them appointed positions because you're not probably not able to cope with or deal with the people presently position. This....we'd probably like to do tonight, but may not. I find us discuss it. We want to control these people in these positions. The board is making a very poor decision. You've taken the referral away from the town people I am against it as is all I have talked to, shame on you. the board is good at spreading but not a good overseer of town funds. Those are my comments. Supervisor McGee ​[00:07:11] ​Thanks Ed. I will actually respond to that. Actually, the town board is not required to offer privilege of the floor at all, and it is an opportunity for the town residents to speak to the town board and let their concerns be known. Sometimes we do respond and I often respond. And actually during the whole pledge issue and many other issues, I expanded privilege of the floor to last an hour where we had back and forth. So it isn't really fair to suggest that we don't have conversation during privilege of the floor where we respond to you with regard to the cemeteries I acutually on action. So I'm responding to you right now and your concerns. So the cemetaries with regard to that. I asked Bob Lynch to propose to the cemetery committee whether or not they would want to have volunteers and if they could coordinate that there's money in that budget. If the cemetery committee prefers to contract for that service, then that I'm happy to entertain that. That isn't a problem for me. If if that's how the cemetery committee would like to recommend we go forward. That is not a problem for me at all. I would hope it wouldn't be a problem for the other board members. That seems to be a concern for residents or some residents. And if everybody would like that to be done in a certain way and you can't get volunteers to do it. Well, that should be done with regard to the two positions. They're not board positions. You said they're board positions. They're not governing positions. They are. They don't have governing authority. So it isn't. When we when we can talk about this later on. Or at the May meeting. But still, they're not board positions. And with regard to my resignation, I answered you in an email. I told you, I'm assessing that daily. I am here because the town is in the middle of a crisis in our nation. So while it was my intention to resign effective April 30th, I am here because that would just create more chaos. So if you don't want me to be here, my resume, letters written that is fine. I mean, if that is the sentiment of the town that works for me. But ethically, I mean, I feel like it's important for there to be consistency through this and I express that to you. So that is fine. I understand. I'm telling you exactly where I am with that. Ed Hetherington ​[00:09:46] ​Thank you . Supervisor McGee ​[00:09:47] ​Did that answer your question? Ed Hetherington ​[00:09:52] ​Most of them, yes. Supervisor McGee ​[00:10:01] ​OK, town clerk Ellen Woods, you have your hand up? Town Clerk Ellen Woods ​[00:10:07] ​Thank you. I would just like to read a letter to the editor from 2016 when the proposal to make the town clerk and the highway superintendent appointed failed dramatically in Ulysses is entitled to reject forfeiture of voting rights in Ulysses. A majority of the Ulysses Town board has initiated and implemented placement on the ballot propositions 1 and 2, which call for the town clerk and highway superintendent to be appointed by the town board rather than the current electoral process. Our current town board has had my support in the past and will likely have my support in the future. But on this issue, I couldn't disagree more fervently. I oppose this effort because I have a strong belief that elected officials are more likely to generate outcomes that reflect their direct exposure to policy preferences of voters, in contrast to the more insulated position of an appointed official. Having independant managers in town government is important. They are able to run their departments unencumbered of changes in personnel and personality. The voters get the ultimate say as to whether or not the functions of these departments are being satisfactorily met by placing these positions into a bureaucratic structure. All accountability will be concentrated in the hands of five people who have been thin on details of how they will navigate important managerial criteria. It is important to realize that any future town board can develop any criteria in the future. Once this election privilege has been revoked, it will not be restored. Every voter should ask themselves whether they would be comfortable giving this decision to future unknown town boards. In New York state, a strong majority of courts and highway superintendents are elected and accountable to voters. They must organize themselves and make a public presentation as to why they are best suited for the position. The hiring board, the voters themselves weigh candidates qualifications, experiments, experience and temperaments through their own unique lens. While we as individuals may come to different conclusions, I strongly support the system of direct democracy, which allows each of us to have our say vote no on Ulysses Propositions 1 and 2, and that was written by Todd Parlato of Trumansburg. I also would just like to share with the whole board and all assembled that I have reached out to county clerks and even Tompkins county's one appointed clerk does not support. Small towns having appointed town clerks. Thank you. Supervisor McGee ​[00:13:02] ​Thanks Ellen. OK. Art Godan. Art Godan ​[00:13:22] ​Hello. Supervisor McGee ​[00:13:24] ​Hi Art. Hold on a second, I'm sending a request for a video if you'd like to be on video. Hi. Art Godan ​[00:13:34] ​So, yeah, it just. I wanted to say that I've been saddened to witness the discord recently between two very capable women who occupy important roles in our town in government. I greatly respect Beth for the leadership that she's shown these past several years, this town supervisor. I think she's brought a lot of initiatives and creativity to the job. And I think strong leaders sort of bring heat on themeselves because they take risks. Ellen, I know, has a very long record of service to our community as well. One short, small task I've asked of her, she was able to execute very efficiently and quickly. And I imagine after Alice Linton performed these town clerk duties so well for so many years that she would be a bit of a hard act to follow. I just. Think that email is not a good medium to have an emotionally charged discussion through and have a lot of respect for both of you. I would like it if you could sit down, have a cup of tea together. Maybe use a mediator to air some of your concerns and. I just hope that we can hit a more even tone. Thank you. Supervisor McGee ​[00:15:29] ​Thank you Art. Ann Ryder, one second I'm going to ask. she doesn't have video available. Ann Ryder ​[00:15:54] ​Hi. I don't have a camera, although it's in the mail. Supervisor McGee ​[00:15:58] ​OK. All right. Well, go ahead. We can hear you. Ann Ryder ​[00:16:06] ​First of all, I want to commend this creativity apparently, according to Art, to put forth making two elected people in the town, an appointed position. Both of these positions. More and more require specific talents and credentials in order to do the job efficiently and Both the town, in my opinion, both the town highway and the town Clerk require technical knowledge these days and I believe being appointed by the board we'll find more qualified candidates able to do the technical work that both of these positions require. In this modern age. And so I hope that the board will move forward with these discussions. In the end is a referendum by all the voters. So and this is I feel perfect time to discuss a deep issue like this and I very much miss the availability of town minutes on a timely basis after the meeting. I see no technical reason. These are minutes. It's not rocket science. And I'm still waiting with great abandon to see Januarys minutes because I would like to see who is appointed to which positions. Also, I do not see a reason to lengthen these positions for the very reason that this gives the electorate a chance to weigh in on these positions in a shorter period of time. Two years extending either or both of these positions to four years will be a disaster for the residents of Enfield. Many people... During my tenure as town supervisor. I was approached at least four to six times a year by the Town Clerk to extend the term and by the highway supervisor at least twice or three times a year to extend the highway superintendent. I adamantly did not pursue that because I felt that this was the appropriate term in case it turned out that the electorate hadn't made the best decision. And I also want to add. Supervisor McGee ​[00:20:17] ​Ann do you have an ECC report because your time is up for public comment. So do you have something you'd like to say about ECC at this point? Ann Ryder ​[00:20:27] ​No. Supervisor McGee ​[00:20:29] ​OK. I think we have to give other people an opportunity to talk. I appreciate your comments. Thank you Ann. OK. Anyone else? Well, let's see. Tammy, one second. Are you there, Tammy? Tammy ​[00:20:48] ​Yup, I'm here. Supervisor McGee ​[00:20:49] ​OK. Tammy ​[00:21:00] ​With the safety in mind during our CoVid crisis. I'm still trying to figure out how the board in the last meeting approved the two positions. Not saying that the positions are or aren't needed. I just don't feel the timing of either appointment was appropriate. Besides the training involved in the extra money, it just doesn't make any any sense, especially when a lot of people around us are already and unemployed or getting furloughed now. Which brings me to my next question of the timing of your next agenda of trying to prove to the board to have control over the highway supervisors job and the town clerk's position and taken away from the town to vote on. I think there's a lot more important things we should be worrying about during this whole CoVid crisis. And I'd like to say the pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. And thank you. Supervisor McGee ​[00:21:56] ​Thank you, Tammy. Marcus Gingerich. Marcus Gingerich ​[00:22:12] ​Yes, I'm here. Hi. Supervisor McGee ​[00:22:20] ​Go ahead. We can hear you. Marcus Gingerich ​[00:22:23] ​Sure. I think this was the last meeting there was a presentation on the solar project or something like that. And I just wanted to kind of offer some words of caution. I'm not sure I understand how the program was all supposed to work, but I would suggest, and I'm sure you will, that the board deal carefully with these companies because a lot of times it seems like when they when some company like this comes holding out a hand to offer something. Got to wonder where the other hand is, which pocket it might be in. Also, it almost sounded to me like they were essentially asking the town to kind of endorse the project. And I would question the wisdom of that from the town's perspective, whether that's a good idea. Is the town incurring any risk liability or anything like that? But just to consider something like that, careful. The other thing is, you know, oh, the other towns, all the other these other towns are doing it. Well, we we hear that a lot from companies that everybody else is doing it. So you might as well to just because somebody else is doing it doesn't mean it's necessarily a good idea for us. And often the first offer is not the best offer. If this is somewhere a way that direction the town wants to go, there may be better offers coming down the pike at a later time. I don't know. But just just a word of caution, just to really carefully check it out and make sure it is in the town's best interest. On another subject, I I'm not. There was there was some comments last last time or one of the times anyway, that when I was on that I'm really puzzled about it, that the town clerk's job was now of 40 to 60 hour a week job and. My understanding was a previous town clerk was, in fact putting in about 20 hours a week, but I could be wrong. I'm just I'm just kind of putting it out there because it would be helpful for me to understand just just some clarification on what has changed that the the scope of the job is now or the position is now two to three times more effort than it used to be. That's all I have. Thanks. Supervisor McGee ​[00:24:58] ​Thanks, Marcus. And I agree. I don't think that this board would would enter into any agreement with this solar company without scrutinizing the project. I think that we've thought long and hard about our our needs here in Enfield with regard to renewable energy. And I don't I don't think that that would just happen. It would probably be a pretty lengthy conversation. So thank you. OK, Edith Ryan? Edith Ryan ​[00:25:33] ​I can hear you. Hello, I'm just coming in to support Kathy Rogers, who is my neighbor and has reengaged me in the conversation about a public safety issue on Hayte's Road. So I know that the last time I addressed the board, I think it was in May of two thousand nineteen. I was coming in very emotional because my dog was killed. And I have been aware of the safety issue on Hayte's Road for quite some time before my dog was killed. So I realize I don't think I was really taken very seriously at that time. But we are in a unique position in our particular area of Hayte's road. There are blind hills on Haytes Road that create a unique situation in regards to the speeding that is occurring daily on Hayte's Road. And since I came to the board in May of 2019, my neighbor, who is about 100 feet from my mailbox, was killed getting her mail. And very tragically, the whoever investigated that, it was basically like they ticketed her in her own death. And I feel like that that was it was an unjust situation. They basically just didn't want to address the situation which has been continuing to occur. People are not respecting the speed limit, which is fifty five miles an hour. We know that they're going faster than fifty five miles an hour. And we know that when we live here and we live on a blind hill. And it is very anxiety inducing when we're aware of the daily public safety issue where we see families and kids out on this road. And I'm telling you, it's just a matter of time before somebody else is killed on this road, because I have tried to speak out as much as I could allowing for the career that I've chosen, which is extremely demanding. I'm not into town government. I'm into at-risk teenagers. And it takes up a lot of my time. But I'm supporting Kathy Rogers that now that they've detoured truck traffic on a Hayte's road. The risk is even higher than it was before. So I don't know about all the bureaucratic policies and procedures as to how to fix it, but I'm just here as a social worker, somebody who is observing the public safety issue occurring. Something has to be done about the speed limit. They're not observing the speed limit, and when they did the speed study, Cathy and I both agree it's not accurately reported what speeds people are going down this road because they're they're clocking people who are turning into their driveways. There are many, many of us who live on the road and we're slowing way down to get into our driveways when I'm driving to work. Sometimes I'm at 35 miles an hour every single day. People are passing me, going much, much faster than I am at, say, forty five miles an hour. It's not safe. And there have been more dead dogs. And again, the dead dogs. The question is, why is the dog out in the road? OK, but the dead people are going to continue to be a problem. And we're in a unique situation because we're in Ithaca. So we've got an Ithaca address. That's it. It's just that the problem is still here. And I'm asking that town to please before somebody else dies. Address the safety issue on Hayte's Road. Supervisor McGee ​[00:28:58] ​So, Edith, I appreciate your comments. I note that Bob Lynch reached out as well as I did this past week. And I basically told the people who had coordinated this detour that it was unacceptable that Enfield is involved in any way. This is a town of Ithaca and City of Ithaca project. They know full well that or someone knows full well. They did a study on it. They know that there was a death on the road, that that is a very dangerous place to have a detour. So I've asked them to get back in touch this week. They told me they would get in touch this week. I connected with them again today. Ask them to call me back. They have expressed that this would require a whole new detour. I'm like, yes, OK. That's OK. There is also as a result of the conversations that we had last year, we did put a speed change policy in place. So if you would like to send me an email at supervisor@townofenfield.org, I will send you that policy so you can have it and know what residents have to do in order to we've removed, I believe we removed the petition aspect of it as well. So that is in place and you and I can send that to you. I just don't I don't have your. Edith Ryan ​[00:30:17] ​You did you send it. You actually sent me. And I appreciate that. My first name is Edith, my middle name is Ryan and honestly, I just got so disgruntled with the process because I feel like nobody wanted to hear me, like I was basically treated like, shut up, like this isn't this isn't our issue. And that was so upsetting for me at the time because I knew we were just waiting for a death and then she's dead. She can't come back so. Supervisor McGee ​[00:30:43] ​Well, I did follow through with that. So I appreciate it. I know. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Do you have any comments you wanted to make, Robert? Councilperson Lynch ​[00:30:55] ​No. Other than that, I have a resolution that I would like to move later this evening that has been posted on the agenda. And I think it's appropriate. Councilperson Redmond ​[00:31:04] ​I'll add to that, on May 5th, I had a meeting with the Transportation Council, so I'll bring it up at that point too. Supervisor McGee ​[00:31:11] ​So we'll put that at the beginning of new business. If you want to move it, then? Councilperson Lynch ​[00:31:16] ​I shall. Thnak you Supervisor McGee ​[00:31:25] ​OK. So we have a guest here. Phone number 2 7 9 2 8 9 5. Cathy Rogers ​[00:31:34] ​My name is cathy Rogers. Supervisor McGee ​[00:31:36] ​Oh, hi, Cathy. Cathy Rogers ​[00:31:37] ​Hi. I'm trying calling because. Because of Hayte's Road. Sure. Basically, I'm concerned because I don't want to see anybody get killed either. The driveways here are blind. Absolutely blind. And I know how to get out of it and and be particular and trying to get out when the traffic is regular. But with a detour, I'm thinking that I probably have to go left on to the wrong side of the road to speed up to get into that other lane, because people are coming over that hill and they're flying over that hill. We've got trucks there, too. But part of my concern, too, is that like the NYSEG person that came to check, they're not allowed to park in the driveway. I pleaded with them. Please park in the driveway. They park on the side of the road and then people try to go around them. And I'm afraid there's going to be a head on collision here because it is blind. The thing that happened with Carmen. She was walking across the street and she looked. She didn't see anybody because you can't it's it's like a big, long dip on the other side of Van Dorn Road. And neither neither she nor the person that ran her over saw each other until it was too late. With this driveway that I have in the driveway across the street, I'm really concerned about the driveway across the street. Basically, if somebody pulls in this driveway and pulls out, they don't know not to block both lanes. If someone comes over that hill and both lanes are blocked, then they're they're getting there. There's gonna be a major accident when I pull out of my driveway and I'm going left toward the hospital. I've got to make sure no one's coming from the direction of the hospital because there's so many times I've pulled out. I'm thinking no one was coming from the other direction. I waited a little while, you know, and and all of a sudden somebody was right on my rear end and was able to get around me. Because there was nobody coming from the other direction. But I'm not gonna be here to tell everybody that maybe turns around in the driveway or pulls over, you know, for whatever purpose or reason or reason. My guests don't always understand why I'm so concerned about how they're pulling out of the road or pulling out onto the road. Excuse me. But people come over that hill really, really quickly. And I'm really concerned. I was concerned before. But with this detour, I'm even more concerned because there are big trucks. I'm not go in many places, but I hear them and I see them and the big Mack truck. But course shouldn't be coming over that hill so quickly. The driveways are there and they're blind. I think the traffic should be detoured down Sheffield Road. So that we don't have more traffic coming through this intersection. And Applegate's Road doesn't get it either because both of them are already dangerous. If that isn't possible, then the speed on Haytes Road, at least where Van Dorn is, should be decreased. We need people to detour. We need people to slow down. Number one, I think we should detour to Sheffield. Number two, I think we should reduce the speed, at least here. Number three, we should post a blind driveway sign. And number four, somebody should be patrolling the roads so we don't have people speeding. Supervisor McGee ​[00:35:20] ​OK. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Those are good suggestions. Councilperson Lynch ​[00:35:26] ​Thank you. Supervisor McGee ​[00:35:33] ​OK, I have someone listed as iPhone guest. I'm going to unmute you and you can tell us who you are. Julie Carlisle ​[00:35:50] ​this is Jolie Carlisle. Supervisor McGee ​[00:35:59] ​Hi Jolie. Jolie Carlisle ​[00:36:09] ​I'm just a little curious. I haven't been attending very many meetings lately, and that's my fault. But I'm just curious what might have precipitated this need to change these two positions that are in question from a voted position to an appointed position and to change the length of the terms of both of them? Some comments have been made regarding the term length. And I have to agree with the ones that say that as they stand currently, I think they're sufficient in that it allows them to get in a little bit of time and get a little bit started. And also, I think it gives the town's people a chance to kind of see what type of job they're both doing. If you put them both in for the four years each. That could cause some issues. I mean, a lot of damage could be done by somebody in a four year time period rather than just two years. In addition, I don't believe that. I guess I guess I'm concerned about why the timing of these changes, why now and why they think that this needs to happen. And that's all my comment is. Thank you. Supervisor McGee ​[00:37:33] ​Thank you, Jolie. I think that there will be plenty of time that there will be discussions happening about these all of these resolutions, so or proposals. We have Albert Vill. Albertl Vill ​[00:37:57] ​Excellent. Thank you. So I'm just here to reiterate what both Edith and Kathy said. I live with my family in the house that was currently owned by Carmen. This is the woman that was struck and killed on Hate's Road. I live across the street from Cathy, the intersection of Hayte's and Van Doren is incredibly dangerous. Every every time we either enter our driveway by a left turn or leave our driveway going right towards Ithaca, you really have to gun the gas. There's been a few close calls and we've only lived here about 2 months now. You know, I fear for the life of my my wife, my 7 year old niece who lives with me. I think what would be best besides the things that Cathy already suggested, moving the detour and so on would include possibly a a stop sign at that intersection. I realize that would inconvenience many commuters coming in and out of Enfield, but an extra possibly 30 seconds added to each end of your commute, I think is a small price to pay for possibly saving the lives of more people and animals and the line. That's all I have to say. Thank you for listening. Councilperson Bryant ​[00:39:21] ​....finally had to do with that at Perry City Road and Halseyville Road after a number of people were killed. It's not in Enfield but... Supervisor McGee ​[00:39:34] ​Yeah, they've redone they redid the grading on that two or three times to make that safer I don't I don't think it is still OK. So just as a warning to everyone, there's no one else who's raised their hand. I'm in a unmute everybody, and give a last chance for people to say they want to speak for privilege of the floor before we move on. So just to let you know, you're gonna be unmute it there. Anyone left for the privilege of the floor? OK. Bob, your muted... Virginia? ... Stéphanie... OK. So let's move on to CoVid-19 updates. I see that. Ann Koraman, our county rep is here... Would you like to give us some updates? Anne Koraman ​[00:41:43] ​There's not a whole lot right now. The only thing is I sent you the summary of the financial impact that we did last night, the Tompkins County Board or I'm sorry, the top of the legislature met last night to review what we anticipate as some of the effects of the CoVid pandemic on our budget. And so I sent that to you. I also just posted on Facebook on my personal and legislative pages, which are open to the public if anybody wants to take a look at that. It's it's it's stark. It's it's sobering. And it's also just an estimate because we really don't know, but we're starting to try and at least look at it. Supervisor McGee ​[00:42:29] ​Sure. Thank you. I will forward that to the board right now. I'm thinking of it. Councilperson Lynch ​[00:42:46] ​I listened to that report by the county administrator last night, and it is grim. It's like eleven million dollars projected revenue shortfall. So it's going to be bad. Supervisor McGee ​[00:43:05] ​Aside from that update that I have ah. Thanks, Dan. Appreciate it. The just the notes about masks being available now and the hand sanitizer and I do have more hand sanitizer. I gave two gallons of that to the food pantry. They are going to be initiating changes again this week. It's very overwhelming to. To do the boxing of food so they are they're moving toward not doing that packaging anymore except for a few delivery's. So they're lamenting some distancing changes. They've met with the health department and we've put together. They've put together a new process. We just posted online this this afternoon. So anybody who's interested in what the new processes for the food pantry go to the town Web site. And there's a. There should be a post on the front page about it. Let's see. And the other is, oh, I want it. And are you muted on on one second. I wanted to ask you further about the testing for essential workers, if you would give us a little information about that. Anne Koraman ​[00:44:46] ​Sure. Yeah, I just realized that I forgot to say that. So for essential workers, you can now look on our health department based on our site on the Tompkins County Web site. Or you can just call the Health Department and ask about whether you can get testing as an essential worker or trying to move. It could be government officials who have to interact with the public. It could be people in health care, people and retail deliverers, people in public safety, fire departments, E.M.S., various different jobs. If you're not sure, you can just call up and tell them what your job is and ask if you can get tested and that's that's free. So we're trying to get as many people tested as possible now. And luckily, because people have been following the the guidelines that we're able to open up enough testing for other people right now and eventually. Well, we're gonna try and open that up more to the public. Supervisor McGee ​[00:45:59] ​Thank you. Anybody have questions for an. Thanks Anne. All right. Does anyone else have any information you'd like to share on CoVid-19 updates? Town Clerk Ellen Woods ​[00:46:17] ​I have something. So Mutual Aide Tompkins has provided one of their food pantry cabinets that is small. It's currently on the map and placed at my house. You know, you'll know where it is. It's downtown and it's on their Web site. But based on what it looked like when it got here and their improved sanitizing procedures, they provide the supplies and instructions. I would like to ask the board to consider moving it to in front of the town hall near the mouse box. Incidentally, it matches. Supervisor McGee ​[00:46:57] ​Yes. I don't have any problem with that. Does anyone else have an issue with that? Councilperson Lynch ​[00:47:00] ​Good. Councilperson Redmond ​[00:47:01] ​I'm good with that. Councilperson Bryant ​[00:47:02] ​No, it's fine. Supervisor McGee ​[00:47:04] ​They're welcome. Town Clerk Ellen Woods ​[00:47:07] ​OK. Well, anyone who would like to bring nonperishable canned goods to that that distribution point may do so. Supervisor McGee ​[00:47:19] ​Great. I can reach out to Jean also and see if there's, you know, if they have items that they'd like to check on at once in a while and maybe stock. Town Clerk Ellen Woods ​[00:47:29] ​Sure. Supervisor McGee ​[00:47:33] ​They'll also have a more defined procedures for volunteers going forward. Also at the food pantry. Buddy Rollins. I've just unmuted you if you want to participate in the highway, give us some highway updates. Buddy Rollins ​[00:48:11] ​I have nothing. Supervisor McGee ​[00:48:14] ​Does anybody have questions for Buddy? Councilperson Redmond ​[00:48:25] ​I guess I'm curious what the current status is of the highway department this point. Buddy Rollins ​[00:48:32] ​On part time layoff. Councilperson Redmond ​[00:48:35] ​You're on part time? Buddy Rollins ​[00:48:37] ​Part time layoff like the board did. Councilperson Redmond ​[00:48:42] ​Thank you. And has everybody been able to get their partial unemployment adequately? Buddy Rollins ​[00:48:52] ​Yesterday, one has got approval, the other four. We're still waiting to be called in 72 hours. Councilperson Redmond ​[00:48:58] ​OK. Supervisor McGee ​[00:48:58] ​Thank you. And what sort of hours are you able to fill with work at this point, Buddy? Buddy Rollins ​[00:49:12] ​Just as needed, we had one guy work on Monday I had four guys work on Tuesday. And that's how we're working it. As I need them. Supervisor McGee ​[00:49:26] ​OK. Councilperson Redmond ​[00:49:27] ​And how are you doing for funding for materials? Buddy Rollins ​[00:49:32] ​We haven't really spent anything because we're not really doing nothing but cleanup work and we got all a grader and rollers out of winter storage. And brooming, sweeping. And we are. We had to install one driveway waiting that a permit or a new house on Enfield center road. Councilperson Redmond ​[00:49:58] ​Thank you. Supervisor McGee ​[00:50:02] ​Thank you anyone else? Councilperson Lynch ​[00:50:04] ​Buddy, do you feel that the system middle, you don't like it, but are you accommodating it? Is it working out for you? Buddy Rollins ​[00:50:14] ​Yeah, I guess. I mean, we're doing like we were doing before. We'll see what the guys have at pay day. Councilperson Lynch ​[00:50:24] ​Well, I hope it works out. And I heard the report from the Tompkins County administrator last night and it's pretty grim county wide. And I wouldn't I wouldn't doubt that they're going to have some furloughs and layoffs in the county highway force. And we may have to just put off some of the things that we had planned to do this year and work with a reduced force because of the financial fallout from CoVid-19. We don't know. Supervisor McGee ​[00:51:03] ​Thank you. OK. Budget concerns for the May meeting. I will have budget recommendations put together and we can begin some discussions then about what that's going to look like for us going forward. And maybe even into next year. Let's see. Anybody have questions, anything that they'd like specifically to know about the budget? That I can make sure is included? The draft generic environmental impact statement for the comprehensive plan, Stephanie and I and also I will mention Nancy Spiro, she worked with me a couple of weeks ago to finalize some language in it as well. And Stephanie and I worked on it over the last week and a half. And just I just have one little correction to make in it. And then we'll put it up probably this evening after this meeting. And then it can be we can have it on the agenda to either accept or decline as the draft at the next at the May meeting or if we have a special meeting, if we plan that between now and then. Bookkeeper updates, I have posted the bookkeeper position on the site. I've met with Debbie and we've gone over some of the final tasks that she's going to complete and some of the information that I need to know to move forward and. Let's see. That was the bookkeeper position was finalized. I think the day before yesterday online with the county. So I'll keep everybody posted as that if there's any updates on that. I think there was something else. Oh, also in stereo did send their final budget report. They made these really nice fancy a boun financial report books, there's one in each of the board members mailboxes at the town hall, if you're interested. And there's a few copies there for the public that would have to be arranged with Ellen with regard to how to get those. And if we need more copies, I'll provide them as well. Uh, so the payroll service. So I know it's a little hard for others to do an assessment of this just based on how many pays that we have and the frequency of pay and how many people get paid and how frequently some of our 5 employees that are paid. Let's see. Well, we have six right now paid bi-weekly, and then we have about eight paid monthly and four or five paid quarterly, so. In order to really make an assessment on the costs of these, we'd have to know how many pages there are per a period that we do. How many people are paid. So I did that assessment and with ADP, the total cost for the payroll. And the end of the year tax information for eighteen employees or 18 people will get paid here. The total was $2,050.48. But they would give us five months of payroll for free in the first year and that discount is about $412.90. They also waived. The $200 setup fee. For the first year, so that total was done. That total included that. So it was nineteen seventy five forty eight for the payroll. Then for the end of the year W-2. Information that was $162.50 and then for delivery of that, it was twelve-ninety-five. So. In the second year. The total for that would end up being that two thousand fifty dollars for payroll. If they don't increase the price, that is because we wouldn't get the five months free. But for the first year, it would be about it would be a little less than seventeen hundred dollars. The complete payroll. That ended up being. Sixteen nineteen, so nineteen hundred and twelve dollars and eighty cents with the three hundred dollar setup fee. And then for the end of the year. Items that would be one hundred and eighty dollars and eighty cents. Additional. So the second year, it would end up being eighteen hundred and twelve dollars approximately... without any discounts and that sort of thing. For Paychex, I have to know how many garnishments we have. I think that we did have some garnishments, not that many. I think we get the first two months free and the ninth month free. The end of the year. Setup is $75 one time fee, and then they have. That's for the tax information end of the year and then there's a $100 or setup fee. To get us all set up initially. So the payroll, their costs for doing the payroll for all of them is fifteen hundred forty seven ninety four hundred dollar setup fee, $121.50 for the W-2s and seventy five dollars one time. For the end of the year, set up. So the first year it would be $1844. Then we have to subtract three months of that those monthly figures. The piece of paper in another room. I think for these it was like seventy seventy six dollars. So if we did on average $70.75, so. Two hundred twenty five dollars less for the first year, so it would be about sixteen, little over sixteen hundred and then the second year would be sixteen sixty nine without any of the freebies. So does anyone have a preference? Councilperson Redmond ​[01:00:04] ​I just had a couple of questions with the ADP.... Sorry, garnishment payment service. Is that as many as we want? And how much would that cost us over the course of a year if it if we had to pay for that? Supervisor McGee ​[01:00:21] ​Where are you seeing it? Oh, so it says. It looks like this is what's included. Councilperson Redmond ​[01:00:30] ​Yeah. So that's for the whole year. And then if we did that, if we if it wasn't included, how much would that cost us for the whole year? I guess I was wondering how much we would spend on garnishments services otherwise. Supervisor McGee ​[01:00:45] ​Well, the other one said it was $3 a garnishment. And I don't know how many of the... We have each pay period. Those would be things like child support or something like that or a bill pay or something. So but I can certainly find that out. I can ask them specifically how much it would be if it's additional here. Councilperson Lynch ​[01:01:13] ​This is an opportunity when I wish Mimi were in the discussion, because perhaps for business or business she's aware of might have used one of these services because the rate is fairly comparable within a few hundred dollars of each other. But I'm interested in knowing the quality of the work that's been done. If anybody's got any track record that they'd like to share about a good company or a not so good company. Supervisor McGee ​[01:01:37] ​So Mimi actually cared. All of these estimates. What? I don't I don't know that she was recommending any of them. She she said that, you know, there was. I think this one, this complete payroll is one that has been trying to communicate with them in the past. I don't know who is doing their current payroll, but. I did hear from someone that they were not necessarily happy with ADP, that they thought that was hard to get information from them. However, I called them at 5:30 this evening to ask a last question and they called me back within 10 minutes. So, you know, I mean, granted, they're trying to make a sale, but they were pretty responsive in that regard. Councilperson Lynch ​[01:02:30] ​I presume paycheck is still a Rochester companies need to be dealing with a company that's based in New York state and fairly close in terms of their headquarters operation. And they are apparently the more bitter, so to speak. They have the lowest quote. So I'm kind of partial to them at this point. I can be convinced by somebody that they're not the best company. Councilperson Redmond ​[01:02:58] ​They are the lowest. ADP does offer other services. So depending on how much they would spend for those services, they have garnishment, pamement services, unemployment service pay, mobile payroll, also do background checks, which the other companies don't allow so or don't offer. So I'm wondering how much we would save in that aspect by going through ADP and whether that would be financial a comparable. I don't really know, honestly, based on our payroll, how much that would save us money or not. Supervisor McGee ​[01:03:29] ​So I will say I did have a conversation this evening with the ADP rep that they do have a mobile clocking and that would be. It's $50 a month, up to 10 employees, that's only for hourly, that's not for the salaried employees. So all of that would automatically be sent to ADP. So that wouldn't be something that the bookkeeper would have to manage or do. And it's also, you know, so they it's like location dependent. So it clocks their hours based on being at the location. So there wouldn't be a need for a time punch time clock anymore. They would punch in using her time clock and using the app. It's done. So I have done that, but yeah, it was. It was $50 additional month to do that. Councilperson Lynch ​[01:04:47] ​Because we are losing our bookkeeper. Are we in some kind of a time bind here or could we hold off until the May meeting? When Mimi would be back in and she could offer her input? Supervisor McGee ​[01:05:01] ​So if you wanted to wait on this, then I would ask that you set a special meaning to make a decision if you want me to be precident. Because Debbie will do the payroll on May 4 and then another payroll will be done and will be do two weeks from then. So we would need to. And they do. I mean, it generally would take two to three days if we have everything that they need in order to set it up. But. I wouldn't really want to wait that long. To do it, but it doesn't have to be a marathon meeting, can be a meeting to decide this issue. So. Councilperson Redmond ​[01:05:47] ​I actually wouldn't mind looking into it further and asking some business owners in the area which services they use and why they like them. I did a bit of research, but I think it could use a little bit more research. Councilperson Bryant ​[01:05:59] ​I talked to a character of action about what they use. They use ATP because they're able to get some reports that they need for their grants and tables and grants and so on. They've been happy with it for she said eons that I couldn't get to get a year number. Anyway, I think it's worth. Waiting.... Councilperson Lynch ​[01:06:22] ​Do we know if any other municipalities locally use one of these services? Supervisor McGee ​[01:06:28] ​I do not. No, but I'm happy to put an e-mail out and ask them. Councilperson Lynch ​[01:06:38] ​Because the cost is fairly comparable. Not again, within a few hundred dollars. And it behooves us to get the best firm. Councilperson Redmond ​[01:06:56] ​You know, if Mimi looked into a company called Buddie Punch, it's another payroll service that regional uses and really likes. Supervisor McGee ​[01:07:04] ​I don't except that these are the three I know that she did reach out to us in the end, they connected back with us, the two of us. And if you want to know if you have somebody else, Stephanie, that you want to look into. I can give you the details about the payroll. So, you know, so there's like there's 10 payrolls. Let me see, was it 10 payrolls a year that are just the bi weekly, there's twelve that are bi-weekly with the monthly pays. And then there's four that are bi weekly. And the quarterly's. Councilperson Redmond ​[01:08:00] ​And do we have information about garnishments or whether we would need. Like how many background checks do we? I mean, it doesn't seem very useful to have a background check. Is it offered service because they don't have that many employees. But how about unemployment service sounds pretty good right now. And I'm not sure about mobile payroll or that that would be really that helpful or not. But I'm just curious about other services. And what we need. Supervisor McGee ​[01:08:40] ​Hold on one second. Buddy has a comment. Buddy did you have a comment? Buddy Rollins ​[01:08:45] ​Yeah, I was just wondering where the benefit time, the sick and vacation time goes in with that or something else has to happen? Supervisor McGee ​[01:08:56] ​With what? Buddy Rollins ​[01:08:57] ​...with the payroll? Because they get their sick and benefit time with their paychecks now. Supervisor McGee ​[01:09:03] ​So we would tell the payroll company how we accrue that. And they would. So what do you mean. Buddy Rollins ​[01:09:12] ​Is there a extra charge for that or... Supervisor McGee ​[01:09:16] ​No, that's just gonna be part of the service,. Buddy Rollins ​[01:09:18] ​OK? Supervisor McGee ​[01:09:19] ​It's going to be part of the service. Buddy Rollins ​[01:09:21] ​OK. Supervisor McGee ​[01:09:22] ​And they should see that on a pay stub. What the hours are. Buddy Rollins ​[01:09:26] ​Right. That's the way it is now. Supervisor McGee ​[01:09:39] ​All right. Thanks. OK. So do we want to set a special meeting? We can't do Stephanie and I cannot. And Ellen can't do next Wednesday because we have a planning board meeting to facilitate. Councilperson Lynch ​[01:10:01] ​Do we know when Mamy will be back from the services connected with a loss in her family? Supervisor McGee ​[01:10:10] ​Let me send her a text message and I'll ask her that. And we can move on to your resolution about the Hayte's Road situation, is that right? Councilperson Lynch ​[01:10:27] ​Ready for me to read the resolution? Supervisor McGee ​[01:10:30] ​Sure Councilperson Lynch ​[01:10:33] ​This is not what the resolution number would be, but it's an emergency resolution calling upon the state and municipal officials to take immediate action to protect safety along Hayte's and Halseyville Roads. Here's the text or as the Enfield town board holds a primary responsibility for ensuring the safety of its town's residents. And whereas that obligation includes the protection of those driving upon our town's roads and the pedestrians walking alongside or across those roads and or as the New York State Department of Transportation, in conjunction with the city of Ithaca, the town of Ithaca and the Tompkins County Highway Department on or about April 1st, 2020, imposed a detour of traffic on New York Route 79, also known as Hector Street and Mecklenburg Road, so as to facilitate the reconstruction of in improvements along Héctor Street, largely within the city of Ithaka, but also partly within the town of Ithaka. And whereas the city of Ithaca. Department of Public Works has stated it expects said construction will require the closing of Hector Street and also imposition of the New York Route 79 detour through approximately October 1st, 2020. And whereas the detour established by the aforementioned governments and agencies directs motorists to exit New York, Route 79 at Miller's Corners, the intersection of New York, Route 79 with New York, Route 327 and Halsyville Road, otherwise known as County Road 170. Would traffic then proceeding north on Halsyville Road, then east on Hayte's Road? County Road 139 to and beyond the infield town of Ithaca Line and or as the afore stated detour unnecessarily directs traffic to navigate a narrow and unsafe three mile portion of Haytes road between Halsyville and Sheffield roads, including through two hazardous intersections, namely the intersections with Van Doren Road North and with Applegate Road North intersections where numerous traffic accidents have occurred in recent years. And whereas the intersection of Haytes Road with Van Doren Road North poses particular safety hazards because of the limited ability of drivers and pedestrians on Haytes Road east of that intersection to sense oncoming eastbound traffic and where, as on or about August 10th, 2013, an 82 year old pedestrian Carmon Jacks was struck and killed along that dangerous section of Haytes Road while crossing the road to reach your mailbox, an accident to which that dangerously limited sight distance contributed. And whereas the infield town board and its towns residents fear that the addition of Detour Route 79 traffic along the afore stated portion of Haytes Road this year could lead to similar tragic accidents and endanger the lives and the safety of our residents, including children, the disabled and senior citizens. And whereas Halseyville Road County Road 170 between Millers Corners and Haytes Road also imposes hazards to motorists and pedestrians. And whereas a safer alternate route 79 detour route along the Hector street construction exists. One utilizing Sheffield Road County Road 172 along the infield town of Ithaca line from Route 79 North the Hayte's Road, a shorter detour which would avoid sending Route 79 traffic over the most dangerous portions of Haytes Road, including through the two afore stated intersections. And whereas any safety concerns about relocating the New York Route 79 detour to the Sheffield Road intersection can be ameliorated by appropriate signage and or traffic controls at that intersection. And whereas the infield town board or representatives there of were not properly or sufficiently consulted prior to the imposition of the established hall sybille Road hates road detour. And whereas the infield town board on behalf of this resident believes this recently and suddenly imposed traffic hazard by other agencies and governments demands immediate attention. Therefore, be it resolved that the infield town board urges and strongly recommends that the New York State Department of Transportation, in conjunction with the City of Ithaca Department of Public Works, the Tompkins County Highway Department and the town of Ithaka Highway Department immediately reroute all detoured Route 79 traffic. By means of Sheffield Road County Road 172 rather than via Halseyville Road. County Road 170 to reach Haytes Road County Road 139, thereby providing a shorter, safer detour and resolved further. That showed such an alternate detour. For whatever reason, through unacceptable to state or other municipal authorities. That said, agencies and governments take immediate action to improve safety for motorists and pedestrians on those of four states. Dangerous portions of hate's road and the duration than for the duration of the route 79 detours existence such suggested remedial actions to include but are not limited to reduced speed limits. Four-way stops at intersections and other comparable traffic calming devices and procedures. And finally resolved further that the infield town clerk shall communicate this resolution to the following. The Regional Director. New York State Department of Transportation. The Honorable Salvati Merick Mayor City of Ithaca. Michael J. Thawne P E City of Ithaca. Superintendent of Public Works. Geoffrey Smith. Director, Tompkins County Highway Department. Rodney How Supervisor Town of Ithaca and Richard Tencate, Acting Highway Superintendent, Town of Ithaca. And I move that resolution. Councilperson Redmond ​[01:17:01] ​I'll second that. Councilperson Lynch ​[01:17:02] ​Thank you. Supervisor McGee ​[01:17:10] ​Is there any discussion. Councilperson Lynch ​[01:17:16] ​People in that area say it's dangerous and there may be a permanent solution that goes beyond this detour. But first things first. Let's get that detour moved. It's not to facilitate any kind of construction in the town of Enfield. It is only to can facilitate construction in Ithaca. And there's no reason that the state or the city should be imposing hazards on Enfield to facilitate their construction. And by the way, Ellen, I will assist in terms of getting contact addresses and names so that you can send out the appropriate copies. Town Clerk Ellen Woods ​[01:18:05] ​Thank you. Supervisor McGee ​[01:18:10] ​I'm just I'm just rereading your resolution. But for anyone who wants to read it, it's on the town Web site. Councilperson Lynch ​[01:18:35] ​I should note that a representative from the City of Ithaca Department of Public Works communicated to me that there was a community meeting about this construction and detour, but I believe it was back in May of two thousand eighteen. A long time ago. I don't know if Enfield was ever consulted about it. And furthermore, it pre-dated the Carmen Jack's fatality. Supervisor McGee ​[01:19:02] ​Right. I don't recall a community meeting that involved Enfield about that. They may have had a public hearing, but I don't even recall being notified about that, which would have seemed pretty important if they were going to run it all the way through or halfway through the town of Enfield. Councilperson Lynch ​[01:19:31] ​And I thank you, Beth, for helping out in this, because your authority does help in terms of persuading people in the city of Ithaca and elsewhere that this is a priority. Supervisor McGee ​[01:19:44] ​Well, I just didn't understand why it was even considered to go this far and especially knowing. And actually, I will I will say that Jeff did not participate in approval of this. Jeff Smith did not. And because I was really surprised that the county would have anything to do with approving it, mainly because we know that we raised a stink about it and we did the traffic study. Right after Carmen had passed away. So right now, I'm I just want to and I'd like to make sure that what we're asking, first of all, first and foremost, is to remove the detour from the boundaries of the town of Enfield. Even on Sheffield Road, that's still one side of the road is impacting and field residents. But Haytes Rd. is just not designed for large like 18 wheelers to be detoured. That would be on the state highway and have them be allowed to go 55 miles an hour. It's just absurd. But what I would caution, though, is that like the requests for all sorts of other things right now. That get in the way of just getting the detour removed. Councilperson Lynch ​[01:21:22] ​My only concern was if the city or more likely the state put its foot down and said, we're not going to move that detour, because I think there are some concerns about hazards that would exist at the corner of Mecklenburg Road and Sheffield. Perhaps one of their traffic engineers raised a concern about that. And if the state were adamant that they weren't going to move the detour, then at least then they should do something to ameliorate the dangers, especially around the intersection with Van Dorn. Supervisor McGee ​[01:21:58] ​Well, my first choice would be, of course, that they remove the detour. I don't think that that's the only intersection we're also talking about. Van Doren, of course, but we've had multiple deaths at the corner of 327 and seventy nine. So you're you're adding people slowing down there and making the right hand turn on the Halseyville Road. Halseyville Road is it also has a lot of driveways on it and it's very hilly, at least at the very beginning before you could say Haytes Road. Councilperson Lynch ​[01:22:29] ​I think one of the big problems you have. Seventy nine and 327 is missed perceptions. People coming on Halseyville Road or 327, they see a car with its flashers on. They're going to turn and they think they're going to turn on Halseyville Road, but instead they're going to turn into the Dandy's Mart so they go by that intersection. And that's when you get the collision. Yeah,. Supervisor McGee ​[01:22:55] ​Right. I'm actually more concerned about pedestrians, especially with the dollar store there. And that's you know, people are home primarily in that they're utilizing that location for more things right now. Councilperson Bryant ​[01:23:10] ​I'm concerned about that too. I see so many more pedestrians than before the CoVid-19 on 79. It's really frightening. And that's at night. It's even worse. Nobody seems to be wearing dark clothing. Councilperson Lynch ​[01:23:34] ​I think Kathy Rogers said her neighbors real concern about hate says it's not bad now. But what happens during the summer if they lift the restrictions on CoVid-19 and we get back to normal traffic on Route 79, then it's going to really be a super hazard at that intersection. Supervisor McGee ​[01:24:03] ​I guess I will. I wouldn't want to tell them where to move it. I would just tell him. Move it out of the town of Enfield. Supervisor McGee ​[01:24:14] ​Well, like telling them to put it on Sheffield Road, they've already suggested that they have an issue with Sheffield and Mecklenburg Road, but they seem to little put out when I suggested they move it. And the comment was, well, that'll be quite an undertaking to do that. And I was like, oh, OK. Well, really, that's what we need you to do. And again, especially because there was really no consultation that I know of. I don't know. I mean, I guess. Did you have anybody consult with you about it? I'm sorry. I'm asking... Buddy Rollins ​[01:25:02] ​...probably because no, probably because none of them are our roads involved. Supervisor McGee ​[01:25:11] ​Alright Councilperson Lynch ​[01:25:13] ​This resolution will get things moving and if their objections from any of the other parties, then we can address them at a later time. But at least it kind of moves the ball forward so that we can at least let them know there is an issue. There is a problem. Maybe it'll get some publicity and maybe you'll get some action. Well, I'd call the question on this. Let's have a vote. Town Clerk Ellen Woods ​[01:26:08] ​Do you want me to call? Supervisor McGee ​[01:26:10] ​No, not yet. I'm just reading through it again. I mean, I just am. I mean, I'm opposed to them doing it at all there and in Enfield without them having really gone through a process to communicate with the town of Enfield. Whether they are town roads or not, it's going through our town and it's residents of our town that are impacted. And I just I'm just really kind of floored that there was no respect given to that, especially with the accident that had happened. So I just kind of feel like when you give people alternates like if you say if you're not going to change this detour, then we demand that you do this. Then that's where they're first thinking goes not to removing the detour. Councilperson Lynch ​[01:27:12] ​Would you like omit the second? Resolved that second paragraph that talks about other remedial action. Would that make it more acceptable to you? Supervisor McGee ​[01:27:26] ​It would and also, I mean, maybe if that resolved could say something like that. Any further detours that involve the that are, you know, determined or in question within the boundaries of the town of Enfield? You know what we would want of them? What would we what would we want them to do if they were considering a different detour? The town of Enfield. Councilperson Bryant ​[01:27:55] ​And they avoided the process of dealing with us. And they need to. Supervisor McGee ​[01:28:03] ​So, I mean, I'm open to suggestions about that. Councilperson Bryant ​[01:28:09] ​Which paragraph? Supervisor McGee ​[01:28:11] ​So we're talking about the second resolved. Councilperson Bryant ​[01:28:18] ​OK. I'm with you. Councilperson Redmond ​[01:28:21] ​Are you planning on taking out the part about rerouting to Sheffield or just asking them to reroute outside of Enfield? In the first resolved. Councilperson Lynch ​[01:28:35] ​It's going to be a problem because that's a that's a road that is half on Enfield side and half on the town of Ithaca aside. And I don't know if there's any way because there's no other crossroad farther to the east before you get to the city of Ithaca. So I don't know if there's any way to reroute it out of at least the border with the town of Enfield. Meaning? Meaning Sheffield, Sheffield Road. You know, Sheffield Road is a logical alternative. It's less hazardous than Halseyville Road. And you're eliminating all that stretch of Haytes Road. Supervisor McGee ​[01:29:09] ​Well, how far is that going down? It's just going to be. Whereas it going up to. Councilperson Lynch ​[01:29:15] ​But the construction. Yes. Yes, just west of the city of Ithaca's line. It's just about where it doesn't get up as far as Westhaven. It's just if you look at the maps and I looked at what the city had on its Web site. You go to the city of Ithaca's Web site. It will showing the construction for it is just a little bit after the bend. If you're coming toward Enfield from the city of Ithaca that last bend on Hector Street, will you start heading west? It's just a little bit beyond the city of Ithaca line, according to the engineers drawings. Councilperson Bryant ​[01:29:52] ​But that isn't near right near right close to the apartments. And it's. Supervisor McGee ​[01:29:57] ​Just below that. Councilperson Lynch ​[01:29:58] ​That's about that's where it is. But there's no other road that connects between 79 and Haytes Road, that's between that construction area and Sheffield Road. So you've got to use Sheffield as your as your last clear chance, if you will, to get over to Haytes. Supervisor McGee ​[01:30:19] ​Well, they just needed to send them over to Haytes. They can send them down Bundy Road. Councilperson Redmond ​[01:30:25] ​But I do see them be having concern about the blind corner on Sheffield Road. There was seventy nine. That is it. That is a dangerous corner as well. Councilperson Lynch ​[01:30:36] ​But they could do a lot of things there. They could make it even put up a temporary one of these temporary stoplights there. If you had to go now, the state could do that. Doesn't bother you could you could warn drivers coming toward that intersection coming down. Seventy nine. You put one of those big old signs up, flashing signs that says dangerous intersection ahead, detour, whatever. That's for a traffic engineer to figure out. There are ways to solve the problem. Councilperson Bryant ​[01:31:04] ​Yes, I agree. With that. Supervisor McGee ​[01:31:08] ​Yeah. I mean, I think that they should solve the problem there. I agree with that. So I don't mind having the reroute to Sheffield Road in that. But we don't want them to be up on Haytes Road and we don't want them to go. We don't want them to go. As far as Halseyville Road. Councilperson Lynch ​[01:31:32] ​No. Supervisor McGee ​[01:31:32] ​Now, there have also in my life, I'm here 40 some years. There have been accidents on Applegate Road, too. I mean, so any of those roads are going up in this direction or are going to be problematic. Councilperson Bryant ​[01:31:45] ​And I've been here two years and there have been accidents that are. And we are thinking about their proposed detour is deadly. Supervisor McGee ​[01:32:00] ​All right. Bob, if you don't mind removing that said... As long as. Councilperson Lynch ​[01:32:04] ​...I move a friendly amendment to move that that second resolution, that can be that can be stripped, right. I have no problem with it. Supervisor McGee ​[01:32:12] ​But do we want to put language in place? I mean, might it isn't that I don't want those things things on Haytes Road. What I don't want them to do is go directly to that is their first action. I mean, we want them to. We want them to reroute to Sheffield Road. Councilperson Bryant ​[01:32:32] ​Yeah. I really think whoever set up this detour or in the Department of Transportation must have... Supervisor McGee ​[01:32:43] ​OK, so I would do we want to change them? Remove that resolved and have different language or do just want to remove it. Councilperson Lynch ​[01:32:52] ​What is your suggested replacement for that? I would just remove it. That can make a unanimous resolution adopted unanimously by this board, carries some weight with the other authority. Supervisor McGee ​[01:33:11] ​Right. I guess I I would want them to. I would want them to communicate these things to us. Before they just do it. Mm hmm. So that would really be the only language change that I would suggest. Councilperson Bryant ​[01:33:32] ​Could be included or shall we say must communicate with us with town of Enfield before they implement any detour? Supervisor McGee ​[01:33:42] ​Yeah. Well, I mean, I don't think that ultimately we have any authority over it. You're talking about you know, I think that the state was also involved. So but I do think it's important that they notify us. But I mean, I'll move that we remove the second resolved. Councilperson Bryant ​[01:34:01] ​Second. Supervisor McGee ​[01:34:05] ​So is there further discussion to someone want to add anything there? Or do we just want to remove it? Councilperson Lynch ​[01:34:11] ​Would we want to replace it with resolve that I'm trying to read the previous sentence here to try to make sense, that resolve that any alternate detour is communicated to the town of Enfield in a timely manner for its implementation. Supervisor McGee ​[01:34:38] ​Sure. And maybe you could include at the end of that something about for our input on suggested or for our suggestions on mitigation measures. And you could include those the ones that you listed. So then at least those things are there, but we're not telling them. If you're not gonna do this, detour so. We don't have to I mean it. I'm fine either way. You can either just remove it or we can ask them to or, you know, tell them we. We need to be notified. Councilperson Lynch ​[01:35:30] ​How about resolve further, that the state or municipal authorities that control location of the detour shall communicate their alternate plans with the town of Enfield. Councilperson Bryant ​[01:36:01] ​...Prior to any implementation? Supervisor McGee ​[01:36:12] ​I mean, you can end it right there. Councilperson Redmond ​[01:36:16] ​It seems like it'd be nice if they could invite some input from us as well, though. I'm not sure they would do that, but or that we have authority over that. But we can always add it. Councilperson Lynch ​[01:36:29] ​....resolved further that day. City of Ithaca or other authorities shall communicate to the town of Enfield any and all alternate detour plans. As well as any suggested remedial actions it may take. That would include, but are not limited to reduce speed limits four way stops at intersections and other comparable traffic calming devices and procedures. That work? It may not be quite literate, but it's the best I can do. Supervisor McGee ​[01:38:43] ​Something a little simpler, I think. Resolved further than any alternate detour within the boundaries of the town of in-field shall be communicated to the Anfield town board prior to implementation for recommendations and mitigation measures. Councilperson Lynch ​[01:39:12] ​That's acceptable. It has been moved on move it already is an amendment,. Supervisor McGee ​[01:39:20] ​OK, so. You're moving that this is a I moved to amendment to that. Yeah. And Virginia seconded I think. Councilperson Bryant ​[01:39:32] ​Yes. Supervisor McGee ​[01:39:35] ​All right. So the amendment is that. So I moved to that we. Remove the second resolve and replace it with this and Ellen I can email this language to you resolved further that any alternate detour within the boundaries of the town of Enfield shall be communicated to the Enfield town board prior to implementation for recommendations and mitigation measures. Councilperson Lynch ​[01:40:05] ​That's acceptable. Supervisor McGee ​[01:40:09] ​OK. Ellen, would you please call the vote? Town Clerk Ellen Woods ​[01:40:12] ​They're voting on the amendment? Supervisor McGee ​[01:40:14] ​Yes. Town Clerk Ellen Woods ​[01:40:15] ​Councilperson Bryant Councilperson Bryant ​[01:40:16] ​Aye. Town Clerk Ellen Woods ​[01:40:17] ​Councilperson Lynch Councilperson Lynch ​[01:40:19] ​Aye. Town Clerk Ellen Woods ​[01:40:20] ​Councilperson Redmond. Councilperson Redmond ​[01:40:21] ​Aye. Town Clerk Ellen Woods ​[01:40:22] ​Supervisor McGee. Supervisor McGee ​[01:40:22] ​Aye. Supervisor McGee ​[01:40:38] ​OK. So Bob has moved the resolution. Is there any more discussion on that? Town Clerk Ellen Woods ​[01:40:49] ​I have Councilperson Redmond seconding the resolution... Supervisor McGee ​[01:41:04] ​OK, there's no further discussion. Could we call the vote, please? Town Clerk Ellen Woods ​[01:41:08] ​Councilperson Bryant. Councilperson Bryant ​[01:41:09] ​Aye. Town Clerk Ellen Woods ​[01:41:11] ​Councilperson Lynch. Councilperson Lynch ​[01:41:12] ​Aye. Town Clerk Ellen Woods ​[01:41:13] ​Councilperson Redmond. Councilperson Redmond ​[01:41:14] ​Aye Town Clerk Ellen Woods ​[01:41:15] ​Superviser McGee. Supervisor McGee ​[01:41:16] ​Aye. Supervisor McGee ​[01:41:20] ​Thank you. And you guys will share that. Councilperson Lynch ​[01:41:27] ​Yes, I did that you were going to do Ellen tomorrow. Town Clerk Ellen Woods ​[01:41:30] ​And I believe that resolution forty five. I found an extra resolution today that was the Town Parks hours, that's thirty nine. So I think this one's forty five. Supervisor McGee ​[01:41:41] ​It is 45. Councilperson Lynch ​[01:41:43] ​Thank you. Councilperson Bryant ​[01:41:49] ​How will this be communicated to the parties concerned? Town Clerk Ellen Woods ​[01:41:56] ​Oh, I was going to say I have an action item that on Councilperson Lynch will supply me with the addresses of who you want to turn to or help me research those and then I will send it to them. Councilperson Bryant ​[01:42:11] ​Thank you. Councilperson Lynch ​[01:42:13] ​I'll do that tomorrow. Town Clerk Ellen Woods ​[01:42:14] ​Thank you. Supervisor McGee ​[01:42:17] ​OK. I actually prefer not to message Mimi right now. I don't know that that would be appropriate. So what I will do is let's talk about potential dates that we could have a meeting if I were to call a meeting. Early, so. .. Town Clerk Ellen Woods ​[01:42:43] ​I would like to just add to the board that the next regular meeting will be the seventh meeting in a row. And so each meeting takes me about three hours plus time for the minutes plus time to publicize it. So people who are saying that my job isn't 40 hours, there's 40 hours right there. That's one full week of work for meetings in April. So I would just request one Wednesday off after the next regular meeting. Supervisor McGee ​[01:43:20] ​If you think that it's gonna be quick, it's just this issue and we could do it before the planning board meeting. We could do it at, say, 6 o'clock Wednesday prior to the planning board meeting. Does that make sense? Councilperson Redmond ​[01:43:32] ​I'm available. Councilperson Lynch ​[01:43:33] ​Would be available. Councilperson Bryant ​[01:43:34] ​I'm available. Supervisor McGee ​[01:43:37] ​That work better? Town Clerk Ellen Woods ​[01:43:38] ​Yes. Supervisor McGee ​[01:43:39] ​Would that be better? Councilperson Bryant ​[01:43:40] ​Say it again? [01:43:42] ​So it be Wednesday, the sixth. And it would just be this issue unless something pressing comes up a. Councilperson Bryant ​[01:43:49] ​Seventh of May. Councilperson Bryant ​[01:43:51] ​The 6th. Supervisor McGee ​[01:43:53] ​yep. Town Clerk Ellen Woods ​[01:44:03] ​The only issue that presents is for the sign. Supervisor McGee ​[01:44:07] ​Oh, yeah. Well. Could we use the same zoom code? Supervisor McGee ​[01:44:19] ​I think so, because the meeting will just start the meeting and the one that's already set up. And then you know who whoever shows up for the regular meeting, then we'll just call the meeting to order and then do that because it'll be just the same meeting. We'll just start that one. That sound that sound good. Stephanie, we don't have to make another meeting date yet. Councilperson Redmond ​[01:44:43] ​Yea that's great Councilperson Bryant ​[01:44:48] ​So would you say again when the meeting is? Supervisor McGee ​[01:44:50] ​6 p.m. And if Mimi can't be present, then I will get information from her about it. Her preferences are and then, Stephanie, if you have further information about another service, then you can offer that as well. Councilperson Redmond ​[01:45:16] ​OK. Supervisor McGee ​[01:45:19] ​OK. So we don't need to discuss this next meeting dates anymore. Appointed elected term extension proposals. So at this point, there's. Six proposals that have been offered to our. Four term extensions, actually three of them are for term extension actions. And then there are four proposals to each for the highways superintendent and the town clerk positions to explore whether they would be appointed or elected. So there isn't intended to be any in any movement on those this evening. They're available for people to see online and and at the town hall in the window, I guess. So none of this would be decided without public hearing as well. That can probably be all done in on one date, but the board would have to discuss what details that they would want to propose for public hearings. So. So I would propose that that be on the agenda for the May regular meeting, not a public hearing, but discussions, beginning discussions on that. So it's out there. Plenty of time for people to think about it. Talk about it and. Prepare any information that they want to share. Councilperson Lynch ​[01:47:06] ​That gives everybody time to talk about it. And it also gives me, me the chance to be a part of the discussion. I'm in favor of that. Supervisor McGee ​[01:47:17] ​Virginia, Stephanie, do you have any other comments? Councilperson Bryant ​[01:47:19] ​I'm with that. [01:47:24] ​All right. If there is nothing. Anyone have any board members either announcement, Ellen do you have any any announcements? Councilperson Lynch ​[01:47:37] ​May I just add, I thank you due that everybody has had a civil discussion tonight and is collegial and this is a kind of meeting. I think we all like to have the town the kind of meeting that the community likes us to have. Supervisor McGee ​[01:47:54] ​I agree. Councilperson Lynch ​[01:47:55] ​Mm hmm. Councilperson Bryant ​[01:47:56] ​Yeah. Agreed. Supervisor McGee ​[01:47:59] ​So if there's nothing else, I will make a motion to adjourn. Councilperson Bryant ​[01:48:02] ​Second. Councilperson Lynch ​[01:48:13] ​You extend to me me our condolences. Supervisor McGee ​[01:48:17] ​I will Councilperson Redmond ​[01:48:18] ​Thank you, everyone. Supervisor McGee ​[01:48:20] ​.... Good night too.