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Ithaca, New York 14850
MINUTES JANUARY 20, 1988 MEETING
PRESENT: (8) Wertis, Baker, Darlington, Broberg, Hotchkiss, Emilian,
Farrell, Tripp
ABSENT: (2) (Liaisons Booth and Peterson absent due to Charter & Ordinance
Meeting.)
The meeting was called to order by outgoing Chairman Miller in
the 4th Floor Conference Room. The minutes of the last meeting were
distributed, read, and approved, with one minor change. Chairman
Miller announced the receipt of and need to review, the short environmental
assessment form (SEAF) regarding the "disposition of surplus property ",
namely, the City Hall Annex and Fire Station #5. A proposal was made
to disuuss, at a futher date, the designation of Stewart Park's Sanctuary.
Betsy Darlington was elected chairman of CAC. The following
liaisons were designated: Roger Farrell - liaison to Stewart Park Advisory
Group (SPAG); Steve Baker - liaison to 6 -Mile Creek Overseer Committee;
Barbara Hotchkiss - lisison to Ithaca Recycling Task Force; Jill Tripp-
liaison to Planning and Development Committee (P 8 D) . An Environmental
Management Council (EMC) liaison will be decided at next meeting. Both
Herb Engman, Chairman of EMC, and the City Clerk will then be notified
by the CAC Chairman of the EMC liaison decision. Liaisons to the
Board of Public Works (BPW) and the Planning Board will also be looked
into.
A review of the SEAF of the City Hall Annex and Fire Station #5
resulted in an approval of a negative declaration for both. Details
of the review discussion include: (1) an indication that both of these
parcels are in Zone 3; (2) a question regarding the chance for (an
EAF) review after sale; Dick Booth expressed an interest at one time
in having the EAF state this; (3) a concern was expressed that Goldwyn
should state that an EAF would be done on any proposed use during
the design process and review; (4) the chairman indicated that she
would ask Booth or Peterson if such a resolution (as in 3'above) can
be proposed, and if so, to whom such a resolution should be given;
(5) a debate as to whether EAF should list uses to which it can be
put, or whether this gets covered by zoning.
The Proposed Shade Tree Ordinance was also reviewed. It was
decided that Mary rAdleman, Chairman of the Shade Tree Advisory Committee
and Professor of Landscape Architecture at Cornell, would be invited
by the chairman to the next meeting. A list of ideas /questions /concerns
was made for that discussion, including:
(1) addition of the definition of a tree in ordinance;
(2) why is section on page 2 unfinished? (suggestion -pages be numbered)
(3) final report on Roadside Tree Survey
(4) questions regarding removal of dead trees
(5) public notice of homeowners as to their responsibilities
regarding trees
(6) suggestion that supervision be given by Forester of
public utility cuttings
2/20/88
CAC Minutes Cont'd.
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(7) question re: combination of City Forester with Parks
Commissioner - what is relationship with BPW ?
(8) Is Shade Tree Advisory Committee going to recommend
that trees be planted in needy areas?
The evening closed with a discussion of the focii of future CAC
projects (eg. wildflower - planting projects; chemlawn materials;
pesticides; hazardous household pick -up etc.) . It was decided that
time will be set aside in future meetings for "brainstorming" to this
regard.
The meeting adjourned at 10:1s p.m.
Next CAC Meeting: February 17, 1988 - 4th Floor Conference Room.
NOTE: The 3rd Wednesday of each month is no longer a good time
for CAC meetings, as it conflicts with C 8 O meetings (for Dick Booth
and Carolyn Peterson). The preferred alternative meeting time (for
Dick, Carolyn and Betsy) is 3rd Mondays. Other possibilities: 2nd
or 3rd Thursdays. This will be discussed at the February meeting,
which will be on the 3rd Wednesday, as usual.
Please call Betsy (273 -0707) beforehand with your preference.
Respectfully submitted,
Barbara Hotchkiss, Secretary
Enclosures (2)
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Conservation Advisory Council
Ithaca, NY 14850
MINUTES FOR FEBRUARY 17, 1988 MEETING
Present: (7) Baker, Broberg, Darlington, Emilian, Farrell, Tripp, Wertis
Liaisons: Booth and Peterson
Absent: (1) Hotchkiss (out -of -town)
Also present: Cornell student, Gary Braun, who would like to join the
CAC
Meeting was called to order at 7:30 by Betsy Darlington, Chair.
A few corrections to last months Minutes:
I. End of first paragraph: change "Stewart Parks Sanctuary" to "Fuertes
Bird Sanctuary, next to Stewart Park."
2. Middle of 2nd para.: change "Jill Tripp - liaison to P &D" to "Jill
Tripp - observer to P &D:'
3. Change next sentence in para. 2 to: "It was decided that Roger
Farrell would be the CAC ,s liaison to the Environmental Management Council
(EMC)." And in next sentence, delete the word "then" - 3rd line up,
3rd word from end of line.
4. 2nd para, last sentence: change "Liaisons to" to "liaisons from...."
5. Add to 2nd para.: "Barbara Hotchkiss was elected secretary, pending
her appointment to the CAC."
6. 3rd para., 3rd line: change "in Zone 3" to "Zoned B -3:'
7. 3rd para. under item #3: change "would" to "must," and change "design
process and review" to "design review process."
8. Add a new para. after 2nd para.:
"Approval was given (vote was 7 in favor, 1 abstention) to recommending
the addition of the condition under item #3, above, to the negative
declaration on this EAF:'
Nina Bassuk, Chair of the Shade Tree Advisory Committee, gave an excellent
presentation on the new shade tree ordinance and survey. Students whom
she trained "took the measure" (in every sense) of every city street
tree in the city. All the data are now computerized. She also said
that a number of our ideas, following our review in Jan. of the ordinance
draft, were incorporated into the final version (which she gave us tonight).
We of course did not have time to read the new version, but we voted
unanimous approval of the goals of the ordinance and of the recommendation
that the city hire a city forester. Tom Ranney has been hired in the
meantime to train city crews in tree care.
We reviewed several EAF s:
1 . Clynes subdivision on West Hill: We
to become of this property (adjacent to
to recommend that the Planning and Devel.
are for this subdivison, and any others
intent. It was noted that there are
property.
were concerned with what was
McDaniels Park) and we decided
Board look into what the intentions
that come along with no stated
sold signs at both ends of the
2. Journeys End Motel subdivison on Elmira Rd.: A number of concerns
were raised with this EAF, and these will be sent to the P &D Board. (Drain-
age, traffic, and appearance, especially.)
We will also recommend to the P &D Bd. that they look at the cumulative
impact - -esp. on traffic - -of all the development along rt 13 south.
3. Ithaca Industrial Park: we approved supporting Glen Goldwyn's recom-
mendation that an EIS (environmental impact statement) be done. Because
we expect that this will be approved by Common Council, we did not go
through the EAF item by item.
4. Simeon "s EAF: Negative declaration (neg. dec.) approved.
5. Ithaca Festival EAF: Short EAF was not properly filled out, and,
on the advice of our liaisons, we decided to request an LEAF. Cathy
Emilian volunteered to meet with Perri LoPinto to help her fill it out.
Liaison Peterson will ask City Attorney Nash about whether it s legitimate
to do an EAF on this type of project-- what ,s the legal precedent?
Dick Booth suggested that the Chairman periodically send to Council
a list of all EAF s we've reviewed for particular boards, etc.
Roger Farrell's resolution concerning "forever wild" designation of
Fuertes Bird Sanctuary was set aside and he will try to determine what
its legal protections already are. (Much- -but not all - -of it is a Class
I wetland.)
We voted unanimously to send on to Common Council a resolution proposing
a ban on smoking in enclosed places other than private homes.
We decided to wait to consider a possible resolution on non - recyclable
and non - biodegradable take -out food containers until the city has had
more time to adjust to the new recycling ordinance.
Resolution on dumping in SW Park was tabled until March.
We will ask the Mayor and the Supt. of Public Works to send us the
EAF that was done for the license of Stewart Park land for use by the
Chamber of Commerce for their proposed parking lot and driveway. Neither
Council nor the CAC reviewed this EAF, and we felt this should be done
before the license is issued.
"Brainstorming" will be postponed till March meeting.
EMC report: EMC is going to start mapping natural areas. The city
will be included. March 2: public hearing in Lansing on the use of
sewage sludge on local farms. March 14: public hearing at GIAC on environ-
mental legislation (details not known).
Meeting adjourned about 10:45 PM.
Notes from Betsy: I. I'm new at this chairman business and need all
the suggestions I can get from you, esp. on running the meetings.
2. Our meetings will be in the 3rd floor conference room (go through
Council chambers) on the 3rd Monday of each month. 3. -? �' yo.,1J P,ke _1O'Cl f
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CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL
Minutes for March 16, 1988 Meeting
PRESENT: (7) S. Baker, E. Broberg, B. Darlington, C. Emilian,
B. Hotchkiss, R. Farrell, J. Tripp
LIAISONS: D. Booth (C&O), J. Daley (BPW, PSD), C. Peterson (CC)
ABSENT: (1) J. Wertis
Also Present: Tuesday Farmers' Market Representative, Amanda
Lott to discuss SEAF for same.
Meeting was called to order at 7:30 by Betsy Darlington, Chair.
A quick review was done of last month's meeting: questions
regarding Simeon's EAF and issue dealing with styrofoam containers
discussed /clarified; minutes approved.
Initial announcements and decisions were made:
(1) A solid Waste Legislative Update Meeting will be held March 24
at 7:00 at GIAC (sponsored by a number of groups, including the
Ithaca Recycles Task Force) .
(2) BPW is taking out old retaining walls and putting in new ones
in Thompson Park; the shoring of sidewalks is being undercut. It
is felt that excess environmental impact is being made (pulling out
roots; erosion into Cascadilla Creek; at least two lilac bushes were
destroyed, although they are reportedly being saved for later replanting) .
Complaints have been expressed by a number of local residents. There
is some question as to the timing of this project; it was supposed
to have been conducted in the Fall, when the creek was low and
flora was not actively growing , rather than now, when the creek
is high and plantings are in early growth stages. The attitudes
of BPW personnel toward property was also questioned. Larry Fabbroni
and Frank Gardner have been contacted.
(3) A question was raised regarding permitting of work on Six -Mile
Creek area which involves similar undermining of walls, rechanneling,
and general "maintenance and preservation ".
(4) Cathy Emilian was chosen to be CAC's representative on the
Fall Creek Hydropower Commission.
(5) A city -wide Spring clean -up is scheduled for Saturday April 16th
between 12 and 3 P.M.. Bud Gerkin can be contacted at 273 -4596
for details. Rain date: Sunday, April 17th.
The EAF for the Tuesday Ithaca Farmers' Market (I FM) , held
at Dewitt Park, was reviewed. BPW had passed this EAF earlier
on that day (3/16), pending the review and approval of CAC. We
approved of this EAF. Carolyn Peterson brought to our attention
that Part 2 of the EAFs should be either (1) completed by the applicant
and reviewed by the reviewing agency, or (2) completed by the reviewing
agency; we can provide input.
Joe Daley reported from BPW on:
(1) approval of I FM EAF
Minutes 3/16/88
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(2) request by Cascadilla Boat Club to continue using the Cascadilla
Boat House. Its membership has been doubling over the last 3 years
and is currently approximately 300.
(3) reiteration of the procedure being followed by BPW regarding
EAF review: they will quickly go over EAFs and pass pending CAC
review.
Carolyn added that the BPW passed the Ithaca Festival EAF
pending CAC review. Ralph Nash indicated that the short form has
to be done over and asked that state and local forms be completed
in a way which details and categorizes events by potential impacts.
Wearing his other liaison hat, Joe gave us the word from PBD:
(1) the Elm Street subdivision was passed with no conditions. It
is 1 parcel with a maximum impact of 1 house; further impact would
be subject to more review.
(2) the Journeys End EAF was also passed, with many stipulations,
many of which originated from CAC ( ekg.landscaping and better
road access).
(3) there is a meeting scheduled with Garcia regarding his proposed
subdivision of West Hill. The Board has requested that their EAF
be done over. Neighboring residents will meet Thursday night at
West Hill School to discuss the development.
(4) there was discussion about the appropriate procedure for sending
letters to outside agencies from CAC. Dick Booth suggested that
Betsy Darlington contact either Ralph Nash or Thys VanCort to organize
a meeting of the Chairpersons of P &D Board, DPW, CAC, Common
Council, Building Department, Planning Committee, Planning Department,
Landmarks, BZA, (etc.) to discuss procedural concerns.
The next topic discussed was hydropower potential on Six -Mile
Creek. Steve Baker informed us that hydropower was used there
until the late 1950s. Nine months of the year, the creek gets excess
flow. According to a report prepared by Peter Novelli, it would
take $300,000 to revitalize the existing system; this would take 5 years
to pay off. A question was raised regarding public sentiments over
hydropower in Fall Creek vs. Six -Mile Creek.
Streamlining EAFs was discussed: it was decided that a rotating
committee should review EAFs, bringing to the larger council only
those EAFs of interest; an initial subcommittee of Steve, Barbara and
Betsy was organized for this purpose.
There was brief mention of the Charter & Ordinance Committee
organizing a Civil Commission to enforce parking.
Land acquisition policies were agreed to be a CAC priority.
There was discussion re: possibility of tax credits for land donations.
The Garcia Plot EAF was set aside, to be discussed the next
day by Betsy, Steve, and Eric. Issues of concern: slope of land,
vegetation, soil erosion, wildlife. The issue of transportation congestion
may be a concern also.
Minutes 3/16/88
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Ithaca's remaining green space was discussed. Betsy will consult
the Planning Department to find out whether any green space maps
exist. If they do not, perhaps CAC members will create them.
EMC is conducting a unique natural areas survey starting April
1st. Plantations has two full -time people working on it. A meeting
is being held in 351 Corson Hall April 5, 1988 to discuss the survey.
Eric can be called for details.
The EAF Committee will discuss a front yard parking ordinance
which would restrict cars parking in front yards of houses.
After a discussion about changing the zoning along Ithaca's
waterways, Dick Booth suggested that conservation overlay zones
be used instead. Betsy will approach the PSD Board and Committee
on this matter.
Betsy, Helen Jones, Thys VanCort (Planning), and Carolyn
Peterson toured Six -Mile Creek prior to this meeting, with the intention
of looking into the City acquiring land around the watershed. Protection
of the Six -Mile Creek ecosystem and the potential power of eminent
domain (of the City over Six -Mile Creek) were discussed. Bill Dress
has conducted a substantial study of the flora of the Six -Mile Creek area.
Dick Booth will look into Ithaca obtaining State Bond Act funding for
Six -Mile Creek protection.
DPW is dumping more material in Southwest Park, pushing trees
back along the edge, rather than using open spaces. Joe Daley will
be asked about this situation next month.
Carolyn Peterson announced that P8D Committee is seeking suggestions
of people who might be interested in serving on the Interim Park
O)mmission.
Carolyn also alerted CAC members to the proposed building of
a parking lot at 440 East Buffalo, at the edge of the gorge. Tom
Hoard is publishing a weekly list of all building applications in Ithaca.
Respectfully submitted,
Barbara E. Hotchkiss
BH /cs
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CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL MINUTES
April 18, 1988 Meeting
t�
April showers were scanty, and late, as are these notes (apologies!!
and look for flowers in May ! ! )
Meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Betsy Darlington, Chair.
Joe Daley started us out, with short reports on DPW 7 BPW goings -on:
1. Donald Lucenti is requesting permission to expand the slope
along his culvert on Giles Street ( just below State) . His intent
is to make the grade less steep. This would put some material
on the city land.
2. Ithaca Farmer's Market movements: Cornell is backing
off on the B Lot offer; the Town of Ithaca may grant a variance
to IFM for B Lot, but this is uncertain. IFM needs 22 minimum
acres total, 75 parking spaces are needed by vendors alone
(this is why DeWitt Park has been problematic) . Any other
users are being notified that they have 30 days to vacate
their building and lots uses.
3. Bike path - it is unclear as to where it is going - which
side of the flood canal? Betsy expressed concern re: Fleming
Meadow Marsh on the Northeast side of Rt. 13 at the intersection
with 13A (near Waldorf School of the Finger Lakes) . Eric
wondered about a bike path from Rt 13 to Taughannock, along
the old Erie Lackawanna bed.
Betsy Darlington reported that:
1. She and Carolyn and Ray Nolan, from DEC, surveyed
SW Park together and were appalled at the situation there.
They saw pheasant feathers and about 20 deer. Betsy met
with Jack Dougherty at SW Park also (and saw a male bluebird)
and found out that it has been being prepared as a "park "( ?),
the level of debris being raised to a desired height which
is higher than tree level. A lot of money is being saved by
not having to take the debris elsewhere. City snow is dumped
in SW Park - concern was expressed re: road salt levels.
2. She has drafted 2 resolutions: (a) the 1st resolution
is more policy oriented, and asks Common Council to disallow
DPW to dump in certain areas of SW Park; this was to be
passed on to Common Council. (b) the 2nd resolution suggests
that BPW direct DPW to remove household refuse from SW Park.
It was agreed (by all present) that this should go directly
to BPW rather than Common Council.
Conservation Advisory Council -2-
Minutes - April 16, 1988 Cont'd.
(Revisions to:)
There is discussion amongst interested parties re: Six -Mile
Creek protection. There are many "protection possibilities"
being considered. This would involve the towns of Caroline,
Dryden, and Ithaca, as well as the County. CAC members
can get copies of Six -Mile Creek report.
4. There were no EAFs this month, although the motel did
fill out an SEAF unnecessarily.
5. An update on Haag's property: he'll plant screening and
build up area with RR ties. He thought about spruces, but
Betsy let him know that hemlocks would do better (spruce
trees would introduce an alien species, which could then take
over) . He's removing Norway Maples.
6. The smoking ordinance is moving ahead in the Charter
and Ordinance (C&O) committee. (There is a meeting in this
regard Thursday, May 19, in City Hall) .
7. She spoke to John Meigs of the Planning Department in
City Hall, regarding the amount of developable green space
in Ithaca. Betsy suggested that we map out green spaces
in the city. Those that were interested each took a section
of the city map to color code as follows:
light green - grassy with few trees
dark green - wooded areas
green outlined with orange - private property
brown - parking lots or other non -green open space
8. Dick Booth suggested conservation overlay zoning rather
than rezoning of city areas. This would override the existing
zoning. We will get more information on this in the future.
9. The dikes were taken down at Hog's Hole.
10. The city bought Fuertes Sanctuary as Stewart Park in
1908. The RR track is not city property nor park- owned.
There are three seperate properties:
1. Stewart Park
2. Fuertes Sanctuary
3. Golf Course
The question was raised as to what legal environmental protection
is available for the sanctuary.
11. Nature conservancy willstep in and buy designated areas,
for protective purposes, if there are willing sellers and if
the city is interested in buying certain areas for protection.
The meeting adjourned at 9:45 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Barbara Hotchkiss,
Secretary
BH /cs
CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL
i MINUTES
,_APRIL 18, -1988 MEETING
PRESENT: (6) G. Braun, E. Broberg, B. Darlington, C. Emilian,
R. Farrell, B. Hotchkiss
LIAISONS: J. Daley (BPW, P S D)
ABSENT: D. Booth (C & O), C. Peterson (CC)
J. Wertis, J. Tripp
April showers were scanty, and late, as are these notes (apologies!!
and look for flowers in May ! ! )
Meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Betsy Darlington, Chair.
Joe Daley started us out, with short reports on DPW 8 BPW goings -on
1. Donald Lucenti is requesting permission to e*tend - etilvert
an his nropvxt- on Giles Street (just below State). His intent
is to make the grade less steep. o-- -fel /cur 6e, me- 4-1 ufy let/7e
2. Ithaca Farmer's Market movements: Cornell is backing off
on the B Lot offer; the Town of Ithaca may grant a variance
to IFM for B Lot, but this is uncertain. IFM needs 2.21 minimum
acres total, 75 parking spaces are needed by vendors alone user3
(this is why DeWitt Park has been problematic) . Joe Giasehi
are being notified
that they have 30 days to vacate their building and lots uses.
3. Bike path - it is unclear as to where it is going - which
side of the flood canal? Betsy expressed concern re: Fleming
Ne�;tr,r�s eadow ars on t e side of Rt. 13 at the intersection
with 13A (near Waldorf School of the Finger Lakes) . Eric
wondered about a bike path from Rt 13 to Taughannock, along
the old Erie Lackawanna bed.
Betsy Darlington reported that:
1. She and Carolyn and Ray Nolan, from DEC, surveyed SW Park
together and were appalled at the situation there. A, Betsy met ' IP7- >/
Pheasecnr ��dri i3
with Jack Dougherty at SW Park also (and saw a male bluebird) crud ag,0,,,1- 2c>
and found out that it has been dew
being prepared as a "park" ( ?), the level of debris being raised
to a desired height which is higher than tree level. A lot of
money is being saved by not having to take the debris elsewhere.
City snow is dumped in SW Park - concern was expressed re:
road salt levels.
2. She has drafted 2 resolutions: (a) the 1st resolution is more
policy oriented, and asks Common Council to disallow DPW to
dump in certain areas of SW Park; this was to be passed on
to Common Council. (b) the 2nd resolution suggests that BPW
direct DPW to remove household refuse from SW Park. It was
agreed (by all present) that this should go directly to BPW rather
than Common Council.
Conservation Advisory Council
Minutes - April 16, 1988 Cont'd.
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3. There is
discussion amongst interested
parties re:
Six -Mile Creek
protection.
There are many "protection possibilities"
being
considered.
This would involve the towns
of Caroline,
Dryden,
and Ithaca,
as well as the County. CAC
members can get copies of
Six -Mile Creek
report.
4. There were no EAFs this month, although the motel did
fill out an SEAF unnecessarily.
N
5.• An update on HZs property: he'll plant screening and
build up area with RR ties. He thought about spruces, but
Betsy let him know that hemlocks would do better (spruce trees
would introduce an alien species, which could then take over
ife's removing Norway Maples.
6. The smoking ordinance is moving ahead in the Charter
and Ordinance (C8O) committee. (There is a meeting in this
regard Thursday, May 19, in City Hall) .
7. She spoke to John Meigs of the Planning Department in
City Hall, regarding the amount of developable green space
in Ithaca. Betsy suggested that we map out green spaces in
the city. Those that were interested each took a section
of the city map to color code as follows:
light green- grassy with few trees
dark green - wooded areas
green outlined with orange - private property
brevyn - parwnJ 1 .0115 Ur" &lrer nvn - free-r, open Stet
8. Dick Booth suggested conservation overlay zoning rather
than rezoning of city areas. This would override the existing
zoning. We will get more information on this in the future.
9. The dikes were taken down at Hog's Hole.
10. The city bought Fuertes Sanctuary as Stewart Park in 1908.
The RR track is not city property nor park- owned. There
are three seperate properties:
1. Stewart Park
2. Fuertes Sanctuary
3. Golf Course
the question was raised as to what legal environmental protection
is available for the sanctuary.
11.
Nature conservancy will
step in and buy
designated areas,
for
protective purposes, if
there are willing
sellers and if the
city
is interested in buying
certain areas for
protection.
The meeting adjourned at 9:45 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Barbara Hotchkiss, Secretary
BH /cs
CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL
MINUTES
MAY 16, 1988 MEETING
THE FOLLOWING CORRECTIONS WERE MADE TO THE MINUTES OF
MAY 16, 1988.
LIAISONS: J. Johnson (P&D), Corrected: J. Johnson (P6D, Committee of CC)
ABSENT: D. Booth Corrected: name removed
Item: Reports on EAF reviews - #2 should read as follows:
"On the Waterfront" expansion, Willow Street: while no views were
blocked, and a negative declaration was voted by the subcommittee,
three concerns expressed were: lack of parking, questionable
curbing, and need for landscaping.
Item: R. Farrell reported on Fuertes Sanctuary - #1 should read as follows:
it is a DEC - Class I designated wetland and is legally protected.
Any permit should go through Cortland office.
Item: Southwest Park Update - first paragraph should read as follows:
murky standing water was seen by B. Darlington, who requested
information on it, and was told that, as long as algae is growing,
the water probably isn't polluted with toxins; the water's purity
cannot be ascertained without testing it.
Corrections submitted by
Barbara Hotchkiss, Secretary
BH /efo
CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL
1 MINUTES
MAY 16, 1988 MEETING
PRESENT: (8) G. Braun, S. Baker, E. Broberg B. Darlington,
R. Farrell, B. Hotchkiss, J. Tripp, J. Wertis
LIAISONS: J. Daley (BPW), J. Johnson (PBDD, C. eterson (CC)
(f=orgiven for her tardiness due to "butter /pizza fingers "',).
ABSENT: C. Emilian
Meeting called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Betsy Darlington, Chair.
Announcements: CAC meetings will be -field on the 2nd Monday of
each month. The next meeting is June 13, 1988.
John Johnson is now the P S D liaison.
Reading and revisions of the previous meeting minutes.
Reports on EAF reviews -
1. Sunrise Terrace subdivisions: subcommittee had concerns about
slope of site and proximity to Silver Creek. A full environmental
impact statement was recommended.
2. "On the Waterfront" expansion, Willow Street: while no views were
blocked, and a negative declaration was voted by the sub-
committee, tV<jconcerns expressed were: lack of parkin
questionable curbinq/%Z["
(R. Farrell reminded members that this project has to be 20' from the
water.)
3. "Subdivision" on Floral Ave: An INHS project is being expanded by
approximately 14' .
4. Columbia Street: 2 private parties exchanging land for purpose
of one building a driveway.
Question re: our receiving EAF's from Building Department.
Tom Hoard said that the Building Department has not been
doing EAF's is the reason we are not receiving them.
Problem with local ordinance: we need to bring ours up to 'par' with
the state (e.g., "critical area" designation is not sufficient, we need
definite guidelines. John Johnson will look into this) .
Things are slowly progressing with Six -mile Creek protection, though
it appears "dead in the water" (pardon the pun!)
B. Darlington talked to Thys VanCort about it.
Discrepancies exist between various maps as to the southern
border of Six -mile Creek property.
A hike along the south side of the creek was planned (postscript
- a fun and educational time was had by all; many beautiful
wildflowers, trees, birds and bird calls identified!)
CAC Minutes 5/16/88
Cont'd.
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The lawn pesticides article was carried in both the Ithaca Journal and
the Ithaca Times. (J. Tripp informed members that a biodegradable
herbicide, "Sharpshooter ", will be available in local stores soon) .
es ted we a an egal y protected
2) Section 241 of the City Code indicates that the golf course,
Stewart Park and Fuertes are all one (vs) .
3) zoning maps suggest they are separate.
4) t lire are two wetlands in the city: biological field
station and Fuertes
R. Farrell questioned what kind of charter the Department of Public Worls
has. Information was sought from J. Daley to this regard. There
are discrepancies in the City Codes re: No Dogs and Boat M.P.H's.
R. Farrell gave historical perspective on the waterways on the
west end: c. 1903 -a typhoid epidemic resulted in the water passages
being separated
1905 - flood
1909 - land acquired
1921 - park
R. Farrell reported on Fuertes ctu
1) it is a DEC -,d
The Public Meeting cosponsored by C 6 O and CAC, was announced
(Postscript: the meeting was very well attended, with the over-
whelming sentiment supporting the legislation and /or asking for
stricter terms. There were just a couple of opponents who felt
that such legislation really infringed on their private rights.)
'(Other Postscript: there is rumor that state legislators are considering
regulations that would preempt -and weaken- local ordinances! Please
write appropriate legislators to register disapproval of such legislation.)
The Klondike Manor development, proposed for the town, may.,
impact on drainage into the city's watershed. Van Natta reservoir is
an emergency water source for the city. Susan Beeners, town planner,
has approved this development.
Southwest Park Update:
murky standing water was seen by B. Darlington,'who requested
information on it, and was told that, as long as algae is growing,
the wat ' ' pollutedvu17'17 fvkfnS; � v�u�° /s R�Q
the me od of disposal at Southwest Park is of concern, however,.
I - it involves digging of a hole and burial of refuse, which puts t'he J
material under the water level. Sand and dirt is then put over it.
- B. Darlington discussed this concern with Jack Dougherty and Ralph
Nash.
- (Postscript: DPW has said that no further dumping will be done in
Southwest Park until a determination has been made regarding the
appropriate method for doing so. Jack Dougherty and Larry Fabbroni
will be meeting with a DEC representative on this issue.)
Joe Daley's report:
- A status report was given regarding the city's acquisition of
various land parcels
The Public Meeting cosponsored by C 6 O and CAC, was announced
(Postscript: the meeting was very well attended, with the over-
whelming sentiment supporting the legislation and /or asking for
stricter terms. There were just a couple of opponents who felt
that such legislation really infringed on their private rights.)
'(Other Postscript: there is rumor that state legislators are considering
regulations that would preempt -and weaken- local ordinances! Please
write appropriate legislators to register disapproval of such legislation.)
The Klondike Manor development, proposed for the town, may.,
impact on drainage into the city's watershed. Van Natta reservoir is
an emergency water source for the city. Susan Beeners, town planner,
has approved this development.
Southwest Park Update:
murky standing water was seen by B. Darlington,'who requested
information on it, and was told that, as long as algae is growing,
the wat ' ' pollutedvu17'17 fvkfnS; � v�u�° /s R�Q
the me od of disposal at Southwest Park is of concern, however,.
I - it involves digging of a hole and burial of refuse, which puts t'he J
material under the water level. Sand and dirt is then put over it.
- B. Darlington discussed this concern with Jack Dougherty and Ralph
Nash.
- (Postscript: DPW has said that no further dumping will be done in
Southwest Park until a determination has been made regarding the
appropriate method for doing so. Jack Dougherty and Larry Fabbroni
will be meeting with a DEC representative on this issue.)
Joe Daley's report:
- A status report was given regarding the city's acquisition of
various land parcels
CAC Minutes 5/16/88
Cont'd.
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- The front yard parking restrictions were passed
- A park ranger will be starting work next week at Stewart Park
- The gorge ranger will begin work June 1st.
- P & D Board passed site plan review; this will go to Common Council
for review (a question was raised, and left unanswered, as to
when it would take effect.)
- BPW is still working on two EAF's: 1) Cascadilla Boat Club and
2) Hangar Theatre
Final note: Does anyone know of environmentally oriented city residents
that would be interested in becoming a CAC member? Due to Steve
Baker's leaving, one position is vacant. ( Fond farewell and thanks
to Steve ! )
Meeting adjourned at 10:00 P.M.
Respectfully submitted.
Barbara Hotchkiss, Secretary
BH /cs
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CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL
MINUTES
JUNE 13, 1988 MEETING
THE FOLLOWING CORRECTIONS WERE MADE TO THE MINUTES OF
JUNE 13, 1988.
Item #1: Inlet Island - last paragraph should read:
There was some question as to the effectiveness of the mitigating
measures for Inlet Island: will the M1 (marine) Zoning be the
best option; a 100 ft. buffer will be insignificant if a highrise
is built.
Item #3: Stewart Park - second sentence should read:
Joe has proposed a permit system for alcohol use similar to that
used by the State Parks, but without fees.
Item #4: Southwest Park - last sentence should read:
It is under a new lock and key, and at least some folks in DPW
are glad we made a fuss!
Item #5: Page 3 - first paragraph, last sentence should read:
(The Linn Street woods is designated a critical area, which
may or may not influence further development in that "neck
of the woods".)
Item #5: Page 3 - fifth paragraph, last sentence should read:
(John Johnson added that because of the current development
syndrome, he's trying to get Miller Street rezoned to R -2A) .
Item #5: Page 3 - sixth paragraph should read:
An "All Points Bulletin" has been issued for a new CAC Member.
He or she need only be environmentally - minded and a City
resident.
Item #2: EAF Reports - Page 4, fourth paragraph should read:
RE: 96, Roger reminded us that the conference room in the Biggs
Building has various models to study if we'd like. Also, the County
Planner, Harry Missirian, might be someone we should have come
speak to us. He's the transportation man: had proposed 96 Plan D
which the State rejected. (40,000 people plass through the Octopus
daily) . He's done user -cost analysis.
.CAC Minutes 6/13/88 Corrections
Cont'd
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Item Other Reports: Page 4 - fifth paragraph should read:
C. Emilian reported that the Common Council Hydropower Commission
voted 5(for) and 6(against, Mayor broke the tie) prohibition of the
hydropower plant for 1 year at a time. Matt McHugh was asked to
intervene: he said prohibition could only be for 1 year at a time.
(The FERC /Federal Energy Regulatory Commission gives out licenses
without discretion) . There is a 1984 EIS on a hydropower plant
project in Helen Jones' office. The Commission is thinking of having
a cost - effectiveness analysis conducted, to see whether the project
makes less than marginal economic sense. Instead of any final
decisions happening this year, "things" might not really "happen"
for 3 years.
Item Other Reports: Page 4 - first line, sixth paragraph should read:
C. Peterson reported that the proposed bike path along the old
RR bed (from Renzetti Place, pave to Juniper, gravel cover to
Burns) did not make it through committee in the Planning Board.
Corrections submitted by
Barbara Hotchkiss, Secretary
BH /efo
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CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL
MINUTES
JUNE 13, 1988 MEETING
PRESENT: (5) B. Darlington, C. Emilian, R. Farrell, B. Hotchkiss, J. Tripp
LIAISONS: (3) J. Daley (P8D Board, BPW /DPW), J. Johnson (CC's P&D),
C. Peterson (CC)
Donning both of his Planning 8 Development Board /BPW liaison hats, Joe Daley
started the meeting rolling:
1. The Planning Board's alienation committee= (exact title unknown) is still
wrestling with what to do with Inlet Island and Southwest Park:
Split them up or keep them as one entity?
Rezone before alienation or in conjunction with it?
The Committee needs to scale down the Trowbridge Plan for the "most
sensitive and sensible" use, or use Trowbridge Plan as most a 'highest impact
use' /worst case scenario from which other plans can be made for improvement.
Potential Inlet Island mitigating measures: (a) No Zoning changes
(b) Leave buffer zone
Potential Southwest Park mitigating measures: (a) leave wooded areas
untouched
(b) designate wooded areas
as City park land; still
alienate it
There was some question as to the effectiveness of the mitigating measures
for Inlet Island: will the M1 Zoning be the best option; a 100 ft. buffer will be
insignificant if a highrise is built.
2. RE: Ithaca Farmers Market (IFM). Council voted that IFM maintain a
50' border along the water. Mitigating measure: extend market
along each direction to maintain this border.
C. Peterson had brilliant suggestion of painting a mural on the wall
of the sewage plant.
Also, Joe
is continuing to work
with NYSEG on rearranging
the
electrical
poles that run
through the new IFM
site. He was told that, as
long
as the
current lineal
distance is maintained
between the poles, this may
be
possible.
The Cascadilla Boat Club was looking into using this site, but this
wouldn't have worked because of the interference that the power lines
would pose. The site is not being considered for use by the Club this
year, but it may be reconsidered in the future.
CAC Minutes 6/13/88
Cont'd.
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3. RE: Measures for Control of " wdiness" at Stewart Park. Joe has
proposed a permit system similar to that used by the State Parks,
but without fees. It simply puts responsibility for "appropriate
behavior" on an individual who has a permit. He said a small
returnable deposit may be charged for the permit, similar to the
cost of a fine; this could cover clean -up costs. His intention is that
a system be set up that will allow the park ranger to enforce some
standard which restricts: noise, rowdiness, and intimidation of
other groups. (It was also mentioned that Treman Park has a
radio -free Zone. Ah, Progress!)
4. RE: Southwest Park. Except for clean fill, nothing is being dumped there
any longer. Trees are no longer being destroyed. It is under a new
lock and key, and at least some folks in BPW are glad we made a fuss!
D \ 1A)
5. Joe addressed four questions posed by Roger Farrell: (It's BPW /DPW
primer time!)
A. How autonomous is BPW? The City votes money but does it have
further control?
B. Stewart Park is defined in the BPW regulations and apparently
BPW and DPW have complete control. Is that correct?
C. What is BPW's concept of the Fuertes Sanctuary?
D. Historically properties were apparently acquired through the
budget of the Board of Public Works. Officially who owns these
properties?
A. BPW (DPW is subservient to BPW) has no money authorization, although
DPW has a budget which Common Council (CC) reviews. At any
time, on any issue, CC can override their decisions.
B. Neither DPW or BPW have done a thing on their own in Stewart Park
since SPAG was organized. When the Stewart Park Commission
gets resolved, BPW and DPW will work with it instead of SPAG.
( BPW asked Tom Neiderkorn to do a study on the park; he
did above and beyond this, which brought on SPAG) .
C. BPW's concept of Fuertes Sanctuary is "benign neglect" - they basically
leave it alone.
D. All properties are bought and sold through CC. Although BPW
basically ran the City till 1910, CC now does.
We then discussed changing the August meeting due to various travel
plans. MARK YOUR CALENDARS, the August CAC Meeting will be on the
3rd Monday night at 7:30. July's meeting will remain on the 2nd Monday
night, July 11th. (John Johnson is excused from August's meeting!)
CAC Minutes 6/13/88
Cont'd.
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Discussion of Finkelstein's Ithaca Gun development proposal was next on
the agenda. Finkelstein is giving the -City 4 acres. He is also planning to
build 80 -100 units in the parking lot area (280 beds ?) . This fits in with
current zoning. There has been no mention of making the main building
into apartments, • but there is no doubt that he will probably do that in the
future. (The L1nn Street woods is designated a critical area, which may
or may not influence further development in that "neck of the woods ".)
Six Mile Creek News: Dan Hoffman and Carolyn Peterson are submitting
a Capital Project to get money set aside for land acquisition. This news
prompted Betsy to ask Carolyn whether it might be a good idea to compile
a map of land owners along 6 -mile creek, with phone numbers, so that
people could be contacted regarding selling their land so that it might be
set aside as a trust, for example. This map could be created through con-
sultation with the County Clerk's office (basement of Court House) and the
Assessment Office (in the Board of Elections Building) .
Since Eric Broberg and John Wertis were absent, no report was given on
conservation overlay zones. The Stream Corridor Management guidelines, put
out by DEC, will be ordered.
Jill Tripp reported on plastic packaging: Cuomo is interested in endorsing
a styrofoam ordinance. Several foreign countries (e.g. Denmark) have adopted
such ordinances. In the meantime (before such an ordinance gets passed),
Betsy reminded everyone that "Good Sense" brand biodegradable plastic bags
are currently available as an alternative to the non - biodegradable types.
The City's "General Plans" maps for (1) 1969 and (2) projections for 1990
are available at the City Planning Office. (Betsy entertained us with an upside
down reading of John Meigs note of explanation which was stapled to maps,
which she hung up for display!) The "paper streets" on the 1990 map -
those simply forecast and drawn in - have continuously served as justification
for current development... (John Johnson added that because of y2
to
, get Miller Street rezoned to �A) A
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An "All Points Bulletin" has been issued for new CAC Member TI A—need
only be environmentalI&inded andotity resideriti.
EAF Reports:
1. Ithaca Farmers Market: A Short Environmental Assessment Form (SEAF)
was followed by an EAF. B. Darlington, J. Wertis and B. Hotchkiss
met with Amanda and Anna ( I FM Managers) to review. A Negative
Declaration was given after a few changes were suggested in the way
the form was filled out.
2. M. LoPinto is dividing 1 parcel into 3 parcels on Elm Street.
Update on Smoking Ordinance:
The Union (of County workers) defeated the County Plan. B. Darlington
and B. Hotchkiss spoke at the County Board meeting that addressed this
CAC Mintues 6/13/88
Cont'd
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concern. Also, late breaking news: a survey conducted by Senator Seward
indicates that 780 of State respondents feel that the State should mandate
smoking restrictions in public places. 52% felt restrictions should be mandated
in private businesses such as offices and work places.
Route 96 discussion was postponed
this summer. Everyone agreed that a
would be a good idea.
until we see the DEIS that is due out
field trip to the site, DEIS in hand,
Roger Farrell (representing EMC) reported that the closing landfill impact
statement is supposed to be out in late June. The number of leachate moni-
toring wells has been questioned as being inadequate. (There is a collection
system set up to collect 16,000 gallaons per day - 2 truckloads /day - which
gets trucked to the sewage treatment plant) . While the Ithaca Journal reported
that Landstrom received a 6 -month extension, this hasn't really been granted
yet.
RE: 96, Roger reminded us that the conference room in the Biggs Building
has various models to study if we'd like. Also, the County Planner, Harry
h�yst�k: �liseriar�, might be somone we should h;Nlan�which e speak to us. He's the
transportation man: had proposed 96 the State rejected.
(40,000 people pass through the Octopus daily) . He's done user -cost analysis.
C
Other Reports
Via-- C. Emilio reported that the Hydro ower Commission voted 5(for and
6 a ainst Mayor broke the tie) prohibition of the by roc plant Ma t
( g Y
McHugh was asked to intervene: �Ve said prohibition could only be fort earl
r�G at a time. (The ZC /Federal uiat�J�y Commission gives out licenses without
"�— discretion) . There is a 1984 EIS on a hydropower plant project in Helen Jones'
office. The Commission is thinking of having a cost - effectiveness analysis
conducted, to see whether the project makes less than marginal economic
sense. Instead of any final decisions happening this year, "things" might not
reallC� y "happen for 3 years.
_
-� eported that the propsed bike path along the old RR bed
(from enzettt Place, paved to Juniper, gravel cover to Burns) did not make
it through committee in the Planning Board. Many constituents do not want
it because of potential motorcycle traffic.
2 EAFs - one from the Cascadilla Boat Club and the other on Hangar
Theatre - have not been sent to us for review from BPW. The procedures for
conveying EAFs for review are still being smoothed out.
While these rather lengthy (and perhaps too detailed - let me know!!)
minutes might suggest otherwise, our meeting ended fairly early (9:45) .
Meeting adjourned at 9:45 P.M.
Respectfully submitted.
Barbara Hotchkiss, Secretary
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revised MINUTES from
JULY 20, 19$8
PRESENT- ( 7) E. Broberg, B. Darlington, C:. Rni- liars, B.Hotrhkiss, R. Farrell, j.
Tripp }, K. Waldron (adjunct. member). I r�i¢rti_
LIAISONS- ('2.) J. Daley (BPS` /DPW, P D Board), John Johnson (CC's P&D ); C.
Peterson (CO
The meeting ,,ras called to order at f:_ip PM by Betsy Darlington, Chairperson.
* Last rtr; nth's notes were revised and approved -
*As Chairperson of Six -Mile Creek Committee, Carolyn Peterson announced their
need for a liaison from CAC. John and Bara agreed to share this position. The
committee is currently working on making recommendations to Common Council
re�'ats aliir, u, - - v A Fhe C -reek and surrounding areas, eg. the proposed bike path.
}This group may eventually be phased out ;,Then r if the encompassing Parks
Commission kicks into gear.
*Betsy gf�.TJ e us an update ��n themoklrtg Ordinance that she and Dick Booth have
been slaving over. Based on feedback received from the public hearing, they have
tightened the proposed ordinance up considerably=:
- there are no minimum number of restaurant customers required for compliance
- non - smoking and smoking areas cannot be separated by space only; separate
rooms must be provided for non - smokers Betsy pointed out that there is legal
precedent for this. She react about a ease where a smoking ordinance was
overturned because it did not accomplish what it roa.s supposed to be doing - -eg,
giving non - smokers the choice to breathe clean air - -by just having arbitrarily
defined non - smoking areas, within common air space. In response to her discovery
that this ordinance would disallow smoking in all public rooms, Cathy suggested
that this would pre sent a difficult situation in her work with ps ycl�iatric patiento
that smoke a lot. Bara got a negative response from a local restaurant manager,
upon soliciting feedback on th;,, proposed ordinance. He. felt that it would be
exorbitantly costly for restaurants to restructure their rooms in order to comply,
* ,/.yarning that thQ pity would la ;t� roam *y of tlwir rci?s:taurants.. An irripwrtant
component or their tax base...
} - " ��IY-e a } alo:rig iJ -I l:le `'i ee�
-this 8' pride 'trail' would be constructed along tile old railway bed
-the torom vrants city permission to pave city portions, with the rest cindered
-the town is seeking city funding support for city portions, which are owned by
Therm.
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if Id;ISE fives riot, the tern may condemn it.
-Roger pointed out that. since the proposed bike;rw'ay is in the city Toratershed,
u :a.c t could also condemr, it
-John and Betsy worked diligently on a great map (treat has already been very
helpful!!) of 6 -mile creek that indicates contiguous propert ;r lines and i es c 1nmers
names /phone numbers. -
-Betsy distributed and we reviewed /revised a memo: it Titten to town planners
George Frantz and Susan Beeners re: "What's so special about Six -Mile Creek" (It
,�nTa.s suggested that if all the houses were bulldozed, Coddington Rd. would make a
great bike path!?!)
❑ We endorsed a statemer :t about 6 -mile creek's special character
*There were some questions about permitting of buildings in the city. Joe thought
that a 12 -month permit is given initially; building has to be c ompleted in 2 4
months or the permit must be renewed. (This has to be checked out with Tom
Hoard from the building department. There is also some curiosity as to whether
approved subdivision =1t:+_tLj- ': =i•Fi% ._ ;i.T.�.��" _i. _ .. t.i:. •_� .': (•il: '.,i
alreadyT received approval. The first leg of this will go
t�et ;A Pen Buttermilk a.nd Cass �'_ ?4i I's- 13t it Will continue on out ti_1 Taughanno k
Park, along another abandoned RR bed. Since the path will traverse some part of
Cass Park, funding for the first leg is being held rip until the alienation issue is
,d. (FY I tm,.7' 1a.r�d r�_ ��
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Since no one likes the current alternate night parking, a new parking scheme
was proposed: instead of residential street parking on the designated side being
limited to between 2 -6 Alva, restrictfed hours would only be between 10 AM and 2
PM. Residents would be able V) park on either -side of the street at night, but onev
on one side during these hours. This hopefully discourage ct_immuter
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(lid not like the proposal either. There- is some discussion with Cornell
representatives about the Situation. C:.0 uses an awful lot of land for a meager 6
hours /day for Gc� weeks /year. There will be three projects at C t�. in the next
years: Theory venter, new Sports Arena} Cornell Quarters residences. C.U. is
maintaining the student number, but is increasing staff. Mann and the I LR
libraries. will be enlarged to about the size of Olin library. They anticipate that
increased growth will go tosoyard the Southeast(SE) and t1he orchards. There is some
question about the possibility of new roads being put in, with an elevated one over
the SE section of Judd Falls Rd. Wj
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G J 1110 pllanning dCpa ldncrit laals spent. CO.n Eder Aj `tithe on the conc pt of
development moratorium. They have studied how many staff days would be
naquired for dealing v,�ith (eg changing, updating or implementing) several planning
strategies, including the following: site plan review, zoning, cluster housing in
R2c ... They appro3dmated that it ioc -uld take 400 person days - -2 full -time people
for 1 year - -too accomplish what needs to be done. (Arid some of these 400 hours
have already been previously allocated for other tusks, or may have been used
up...). The Council is very divided on the issue, which may necessitate a swing vote
ff0in Elie mayor. But it probably won't come to a full council vote until November.
The irony of the moratorium is that it seems to be having a reverse effect or,
development, in that lets of developers are getting permits now to beat the policy.
OCAC passed a resowtion soup�+ s. %' .' ya� �� �i L.'�'1 i • � Ili h.: y .; jam. "v vtll.
i)' Based on the success of Saturday markets, the Ithaca Farmers Market. askeCl
5P IR for permission to e-zTand their hours tf,, include Thursday afternoons from
to 7. The state has been asked to change the traffic lights affecting IFM.. but no
action yet. Ord St. has a lef t turn lane, but no left turn light.)
*Betsy- -busy, committed, organized, well -read and Titten chairperson
extraordinaire -- distributed lots of interesting and educational information,
including memos on alienation of the Festival Lands; Festival Lands /Marina
expansion; memos on EAFs; DEC endangered, threatened, special concern species
listing; Site Plan Review ordinance; draft CAC resolution re :Fuertes Bird Sanctuary;
draft conservation overlay zoneu, etc ! !
•Speaking of conservation overlay zones ( C oz), that is what was next on the agenda.
These zones are primarily used in natural areal to add (usually much needed
protection. Zoning changes go through a public referendum. Coz`s may need an
EAF. Lansing uses a 200' setback as part of their coz. An outing was planned to
e:q }litre some of the areas t+,71iich rf ight be best pl "otec -te _ +,, _ ?'_ :. a, }li t Cr elm
in Coiiegetown, -mile Creek near valentine place, Finklestein's section of Fall +
Creek. Meet at 9 =30 on Sunday, August 14 at Clever Hans if you are
interested. If the weather is questionable, give Betsy a call (2 7:� -0707)
*Jill presented info on plastic packaging legislation: Nan - biodegradable plastic
trx.;h N49fi art;, forbid_ dc?n in tho City of BarkQIQy, CA; Suffrik C- ounty, NY.,- anci in
Denmark. There is a more environmentally sou -Lid tic, =r�ist;-irchlpolyetliylene
mil'.Wre T.7hich is available for plastics manufacturing. Copies of the Suffolk county
legislation were distributed for our reading pleasure and further discussion its our
August meeting (witli an eve toward drafting like beast for Ithaca).
Photpudegradable (the sun can break them down - -if the sun reaches them in t17e
landfill!) plastic garbage gags are available in some store-:.
*Also handed out, for review and for discussion in the August meeting, 1r,7as a
memo drafted by /from Betsy, to everybody that is anybody in local government,
on a possible local initiative on the "Greenhouse Effect ".
*Update on Reviews of Environmental Assessment Forms (EAF's)
1) 440 E. Buffalo: an E S was requested- a scoping session is being held.
2) 705 E. Buffalo: A number of questions were raised by r_17le subcommittee
tO P& D et al about this (see memo). The landmarks commission has t.:abieri tilts.
1' ) Deer Creek subdivision (land on Nest Hill that minas oiwned by Town
Supervisor Abel Desch and is being sold to a Cayuta fellow by the name of Borra)
EAF was withdrawn and will be brought back again.
*Alienation development:
-CC voted to acquire 6 -mile creek instead of using festival lands, in a
maneuver to get as much land as possible along the creek
- alienation removes state anci federal restrictions that apply to parks bought
with state of federal funds
-tile =vl y May U�u-n festival lands over to tie state
-inlet island is 6-7 acres large and worth approx. $7 11,000. New park land
must be worth at least that much. While the island is appraised with a recreational
103-be1. ether (exchanged) property would not Have to be used for active recreation.
-CC may not have t-he votetM1i cJ fight alienation 00 it is thought that maybe
some specific battles can be won by making Inlet Island as undeveloped as it can
be kept by the Planning powers that be.
-the city has the option to condemn land if currant owners do not ant to
accept purchase offer
*The draft resolution on the Fuertefi Sanctuary ;mss distributed for our review and
discussion next meeting.
*Cathy reported tliat, at the most recent Hydropower Commission meeting betle,Teen
I thaca and " " � „ _ � _. -2 1- - rlcommita.i statement regarding their plans
to build a hydropower plant. They /C.U. reserve the right to assess costs and ton
evaluate the feasibility of such a project. Ithaca has first options at building same
beast, and if it doesn't C.U. can then step in. If it were built, the plant would run at
a minimum of h0 cubic feet per second (cfs '). There was some discussion at the
7meeting about the mysterious manner in which the creek already fluctuates
y-.�'�.�4'tkli4';44V CADF R)=f4atPIV I fo(A 4C., ;:ording t,) tiRhorman &d Broth;w!;, Tr =;gut
Unlimited). C.U. had no explanation for it.
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t -wo of - - "jou scream, I ,cream, we all scream for':- -ice cream! -
Respectfully submitted,
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MINUTES
AUGUST 15, 1988
PRESENT: (7) F.rie RrnhPro R_Ptcu Tlarlinotnn C'athv Rmilian Rarhara Nntrhlrics Rnoar
Farrell, Jill Tripp, Keith Waldron (adjunct member), John Wertis
LIAISON: (1) Carolyn Peterson (CC)
ABSENT: (2) John Johnson, Joe Daley
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 PM by Betsy Darlington, Chairperson.
*Last month's notes were revised and approved, and additions were made to the agenda.
•Betsy described her discussion with Northside resident Marjory Olds, regarding her and others'
interest in having the old sewage treatment plant site converted into a neighborhood park. A
draft resolution on this matter was read and revised.
❑ CAC members gave a unanimous vote of approval for the final version of the resolution,
which proposes that the old sewage treatment plant site be designated as a neighborhood park.
*George Frantz, assistant town planner, then gave a presentation on the proposed 6 -mile
creek "recreation way- that is being proposed along the old RR bed. The town planning
department envisions this "recreation way" accommodating walking, biking, jogging,
cross- country skiing, etc. (As I understood his presentation...)
It will have two sections, divided where the RR bed has a switchback: One which
forks to the Southwest which will serve as a feeder for pedestrians going downtown; the
other which goes East from the switchback, along the southern slope bordering 6 -mile
creek. It is proposed that the SW section of the "recreation way" be cleared to be
approximately S ft.. wide, to accomodat.e both a 4 -5 ft.. paved, and a 2 ft.. wide cinder,
pathway. The Eastern stretch would be a 4 ft. wide cinder pathway. Questions were
raised regarding the necessity of pavement, and the problems with the maintenance of
this type of surface. It was suggested that the pavement (oil and stone) would: help
control erosion; give a practical surface for baby carriages and/or wheelchairs. The town
parks department would maintain the path.
Theoretically, this trail would be closed to all motorized vehicles; pollards would
prevent passage. (There are already problems with motorcycles coming onto the existing
RR bed trail from the city parcel of land.) Enforcement would be provided by the town
sheriff. Gates or 'pass thrus' would be built at various existing trail intersections (eg., 3
Circle Greenway trails and 2 farm crossings).
The town is seeking easement for a 66 ft. right of way from NYSEG, which hasn't
even nibbled. Therm Inc. has agreed to give the town easement of the section which it
owns (the entire lower part from the switchback east).
An Environmental Quality Bond Act grant is needed in order for the town to
Finance the hit eway. The town will he hearing about whether it gets preliminary
rte, oval by mid -to -late September.
Other discussion involved: the cluster housing mandate of the comprehensive plan
of the town of Ithaca; town requires developers to devote 10% of land to open or
recreational space; septic systems failing all along a large section of Coddington Rd; water,
but not sewage, systems line Coddington Rd; the theorized problem with Ithaca's (city)
water quality has its source above German Cross Road -- development has increased more
than 50% in the town of Caroline.
Carolyn summarized the major proposals being made by the 6 -mile creek
commission regarding the bikeway: 1) restrict access/ activity, preserve isolation; 2) city
should continue to purchase lands; if necessary, buy tracts above RR bed; 3) transfer
development rights from below the RR bed to above it; 4) provide even wider than 60 ft.
buffer between areas of activity and the natural environment; 5) if there is ever any
kind of road put in, an open space buffer should be provided.
It was agreed that a follow -up letter would be drafted by Betsy indicating concerns
that CAC still has about the recreation way (for our review at the next meeting).
:nd Jill then distributed for our feedback, both a letter to the editor (of the Ithaca Journal) ,
a recommendation to Common Council, regarding plastic and polystyrene packaging.
❑CAC approved of the letter and draft recommendation on plastics.
• An overlay zoning (OZ) committee -- Betsy, Eric, and john- -was organized to further
explore oz issues. They will meet separately from the CAC, and will keep us tuned.
*Due to time constraints, we did not get to several items on the agenda, including:
Alienation developments, which are described in a letter from Betsy to Andy Mazzella,
Finger Lakes State Parks Commissioner; the article by Betsy on the greenhouse effect;
Fuerte Sanctuary. We will discuss these (and many more!!) issues at the next meeting,
which is the 2nd Monday, the 12th, of September.
*Mark your calendars: Septemberl6th (Friday evening) and 17th (all day Saturday):
"ENVIRONMENT '88 - -A Statewide Conference on Critical Environmental and Health
Challenges facing New York ". Co- sponsored by the Environmental Planning Lobby, the
New York Environmental Institute, and the Toxics in Your Community Coalition.
Discussion topics will include: radioactive waste; pesticide use in agriculture; recycling;
wildlife protection, hazardous waste management; land acquisition, etc. At least 3 people
are going on Saturday AM; anyone else want to go?
*Conservation trivia: Millions of acres of forest in the U.S. in 1969: 723.
Millions of acres of forest in the U.S. in 1982: 655.
Respectfully submitted,
PRESENT: (7) Eric Broberg, Betsy Darlington, Barbara Hotchkiss, Roger
Farrell, Jill Tripp, Keith Waldron (adjunct member), John Wertis
LIAISON: (1) Carolyn Peterson (CC)
ABSENT: (2) John Johnson, Joe Daley, Cathy Emilian
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 PM by Betsy Darlington, Chairperson.
*Last month's notes were revised and approved, and additions were made to
the agenda.
*Question of banning plastics: Guest Lynn Leopold led a discussion of the
complexities of plastics -- components, recycling, etc.. The CAC plastics
statement has been referred to Charter & Ordinance Committee of Common
Council. Carolyn suggested that a plastics information packet be put together
and presented by a CAC subcommittee. John, Bara, Jill and Lynn agreed to
meet some time in late Sept. or early Oct. to do this. In the meantime, Lynn
will pass plastics information our way, and will collect more of the same at a
recycling conference which she will be attending soon.
*The issue of the baling station was raised; it was decided that we'll wait for
the dEIS (draft Environmental Impact Statement) to come out before we
make comment. Carolyn has a big book that describes the various proposed
sites for the baling station if anyone would like to borrow it.
*The draft letter to George Frantz was read, edited and approved;
clarification is being sought regarding "pocket parks" along 6 -mile creek that
have been mentioned.
•Review of letter from Tom Hoard (city Building Commissioner) on
conservation overlay zoning (coz) raised the following questions: (I )Do we
"really want to have a blanket prohibition against tree removal, based only
on tree size? You may inadvertently favor junk species over more valuable
species that would be released by removal of larger junk trees." (2)Is the
200' band along each shore line a bit unrealistic for developed urban areas?
(3)How will administration of permits be handled? Would there be special
permitting allowed? (4)Aren't there contradictions between the proposed
coz and existing zoning?
*The beautifully- executed (thanks to John W., Eric and Betsy, primarily) coz
maps were 'viewed' by the rest of CAC. 200' zones were measured on both
sides of the centers of Ithaca's waterways for the purpose of designating
areas to be protected by coz.
*The draft coz ordinance was reviewed /edited by a then slower - thinking
CAC. Further review will continue at the next meeting when, hopefully,
minds are fresh.
•The smoking ordinance passed, 10 to 0, in Common Council. It will go into
effect October 15th, and fines will be levied starting April 15, 1989. Betsy
and Dick Booth are working up informational materials on the 'ins and outs'
of the ordinance.
• It was announced that the hydropower question will be on the election
ballot this year.
• It was suggested that we ask local media sources to offer information, (in
the farm of consistent newspaper columns and /or local T.V. and radio public
service announcements) on environmental issues. While much interest and
support was expressed for this idea, much remains unresolved in terms of:
who would offer this info, in what form, on what kind of time frame, etc...
*The proposed Deer Creek subdivision has been put on hold; developer
reluctant once he discovered that he had to pay for the road.
*The dEIS on Route 96 is due in 4 -6 weeks and a public hearing will most
likely be held in mid November. (don't hold your breath!)
*The next CAC meeting will be at Betsy's house (204 Fairmont
Ave) on Monday, October 10th_ We will be discussing the 6 -mile creek
statement(written 7/16) and the greenhouse effect, among other things.
•Remember: "Don't find fault. Find a remedy." (Henry Ford)
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Respectfully submitted,
Bar"bara" Hotchkiss
CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL
MINUTES
October 10th, 1988
PRESENT: (9) Gary Braun (accidentally omitted from the list last month - apologies), Eric
Broberg, Betsy Darlington, Barbara Hotchkiss, Roger Farrell, Jill Tripp, Keith
Waldron (adjunct member), John Wertis, Judith Jones (visiting potential member)
LIAISONs: (3) Joe Daley , John Johnson, Carolyn Peterson
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 PM by Betsy Darlington, Chairperson.
-Last month's notes were revised and approved, and additions were made to the agenda.
-Betsy relayed details of her discussion with Linda McCandless (editor of Grapevine Weekly)
RE: the timliness of environmentally - oriented written pieces. Linda is interested in having a
series of weekly environmental tips put in the form of cartoons ( "environtoons " ?), perhaps by
graphic artist Jim Houghton. She feels that if they are well produced, they could be syndicated.
We discussed whether it would be worthwhile approaching other papers about this idea ... now or
later.
-Joe Daley reported that:
(1)P &D is doing a big West Hill Master Plan (WHMP --no its not a new radio station!!). They
have hired Peter Trowbridge to redesign the road layout. Discussions are under way with town
officials regarding an expanded plan which would extend into town lands. The Master Plan
would affect future subdivisions for which we review EAFs and DEISs. Joe talked to Deer Creek
developers; this development does not fall under the directives of the Plan. All 3 other
developers-- Ciachi's on Sunrise, Garcia's on Campbell Ext., McPherson's --are aware of the
new changes that the WHMP will involve. They're fairly accepting of the proposed road
changes as long as the permitted number of lots remains the same. It was decided that a letter
from CAC be sent to Trowbridge in support of concerns of the Westkiill Civic Association, that
contiguous green space be a priority in the Plan and that no more thoroughfare road systems be
developed. These recommendations seem even more important, given the current building
boom in the town portions of West Hill; there have been two accepted subdivisions on West Hill
in the past month, each with 150 units! ?!
(2)Both the Planning Board and BPW sent a notice to the Charter and Ordinance Committee
recommending that all future developers pay for all infrastructure service costs that result from
developments.
(3)The P &D Board is planning a review of the 6 -story building limit of R -3 zoning, with the goal
of "down zoning ".
-Betsy approached BPW with the question of collegetown trash, suggesting the benefits of
designating that area "a special assessment district ", as is done with the Commons. This
designation could be accomplished if 50% or more of the businesses in the area agreed to it.
Even though collegetown is supposedly cleaned up twice a week, there is still enough
unconsolidated and uncollected trash that it gets blown into the creeks.. FPW is wit ' ±„ it
on extra personnel to keep better, more consistent vigil, if they can find the money to support
them.
-Betsy received a letter from Marjorie Olds, of the Northside Cascadilla Civic Assocation,
thanking the CAC for endorsing their position. They are trying to get more help with
improvements on Thompson and Cascadilla Parks (eg. lanterns, a pedestrian walk under 13,
etc). Anyone interested in helping "flesh -out a sketch" (not to be mistaken for Etch A Sketch!) is
encouraged to do so. Jill will pursue this with Ms. Olds. Historic note, a la Jill: Willow Street
served as the old foot path from the Steamboat Landing.
- Baling Station update: A number of issues continue to be discussed, including but not limited
to noise, smell, traffic concerns, etc. Someone raised a question regarding the potential for
leachate on the site, wondering what quantity will be generated if any. While the Community
Gardens area is the county's preferred site, they must wait for the dEIS approval until it will be
decided. The county has not yet been successful in finding a baling station this side of the
Mississippi that exemplifies what they have in mind.
-We reviewed and approved a letter from Betsy to Ithaca School Superintendent Gordon Bruno
RE: the use of Styrofoam materials and lead solder effects on drinking water in fountains.
-Betsy and Dick Booth are working on an informational letter to the Ithaca Journal on the
Smoking Ordinanace, especially as it pertains to workplace regulations. Also, they are
designing a 2 -sided Smoking Ordinanace information sheet that will be distributed in the front
hall of City Hall. As far as enforcement of the ordinance is concerned: City inspectors are
supposed to check to see that businesses have posted signs that designate smoking and non-
smoking areas.
- Cornell has plans for an alumni admission center on the site of the current Noyes Lodge, the
alumni building and the Japes Lodge. It is actually a smaller amount of construction relative to
the entire property than the present situation.
-The &aft Six -Mile Creeek policy statement was reviewed.
-The daft Conservation Overlay Zoning proposal was also reviewed... much appreciation goes
to Betsy's hard work on this, as well as to Eric for his artistic capabilities.
-Betsy reminded us of the BRIDGES community design competition being cosponsored by the
Arts Council and various architects. Its goal is to foster creative solutions to the Octopus snafu.
Anyone interested in entering a design must do so by 5 P.M. Monday, Dec. 5th, at the Tompkins
County Arts Council.
-After some gustatory delights, we bid everyone adieu at around 10:20. The next meeting is the
2nd Monday of November, the 14th. A temporary note taker is needed for that meeting.
Respectfully submitted,
Bar "bare "Hotchkiss
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MINUTES
Conservation Advisory Council Meeting of Nov. 14, 1988
Present: John Wertis, Roger Farrell, Betsy Darlington, Gary Braun, Jill Tripp, Cathy
Emilian, Eric Broberg, Judy Jones (visiting potential member)
(Bara and Keith are out -of- town.)
Liaisons: Joe Daley (P &D, BPW)
Council liaisons had to attend a city budget meeting
1. Meeting called to order at 7:30 by Betsy Darlington. Cathy Emilian agreed to take
notes.
2. Minutes for last month were unanimously approved with the follow minor changes: Cathy
Emilian's name was omitted from the list of those attending;
Ciaschi,s name was misspelled;
John and Eric (in addition to Betsy) spent a lot of time on the COZ's.
3. Roger Farrell, John Wertis, and Betsy Darlington wish to continue on the CAC (terms
expire Dec. 31), and Darlington has written to the Mayor, asking for reappointment.
4. Various announcements re rt. 96 DEIS: meetings, field trip, subcommittee to work
on it (Baca, John W., Roger7. Note: Hearing will be Dec. 14 & 15, 7:30 PM, NYSEG auditorium
5. Discussed Conservation Overlay Zoning. Made more changes in the draft. New draft
1 approved unanimously. Betsy will send it to each member for any last - minute changes
before sending it to Council for their Dec. 7 meeting. Please call with comments
by Sunday, Nov. 27th.
6. Six -Mile Creek policy statement (re acquisitions) given final review. Unanimously
approved to send it to Common Council.
7. John Wertis reported on 6 -Mile Creek Committee meeting. No one in City govt. to
contact if people in that area want to sell land. John proposed a resolution to set
up such a body. Including this in the policy statement was unanimously approved.
8. A local land trust may get established in Tompkins County. First meeting will
be Nov. 21, 210 Fernow Hall, 7:30 PM. Andy Zepp is organizing this.
9. Hydropower: letter re Journals editorial was discussed. Decided not to send in
as a CAC letter. (CAC should keep its advise to environmental recommendations, and
proposed letter was only marginally so.)
10. Environmental hints panel for Grapevine is coming along. Jim Houghton is preparing
ten panels, to cover the first 10 weeks. Jot down ideas and call them in - -or mail
them --to Betsy.
11. Updates on Festival Land transfer and cluster housing ordinance.
12. Park- and -ride resolution (to go to Common Council) was approved unanimously.
13. Joe Daley ,s report: a. Council voted to cut 1/2 of Stewart Park budget (from $80,000
to $40,000). b. City doesn't appear to be any, closer to having an interim parks commis-
sion. c. BPW and P &D Dept. meeting with C town merchants Nov. 15, re dirty streets
and sidewalks. d. Thur. BPW will meet to review West Hill master plan e. Remaining
retaining walls along Cascadilla Creek (downtown) will be no more than 4' high, and
there will be stairs periodically so people can in or out of the creek.
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