HomeMy WebLinkAbout2012-02-07-PB TOWN OF ULYSSES
PLANNING BOARD
MINUTES
02/07/12
Present : Chairperson Ken Zeserson, Members- Peter Fry, Rebecca Schneider,
John Wertis, Environmental Planner Darby Kiley, Lakeshore Committee Chairperson
Don Smith.
Excused : Sarah Adams, Stan Beames
Applicants : Corie Wilcox and Phil Maguire
Mr. Zeserson is called the meeting to order at 7 : 01pm, he stated the first order of business
was a Minor Subdivision that all members were given the maps at the last meeting and a
review by Ms. Kiley via email . He asked Ms . Kiley to present the application because the
applicant was not at the meeting yet.
Ms . Kiley stated they had received an application for a subdivision on Pennsylvania
Avenue . There have been several divisions of this property as she explained to Mr.
Zeserson.
Mr. Wertis questioned if the applicants ' would be present. He is very concerned this is
not a flag lot due to the dimensions . He had planned on recusing himself however after
going home has decided not to . He is very concerned regarding setting a precedent for a
flag lot that does not meet the "Town" definition of a flag lot .
Ms Kiley stated she would like to present the history of the property .
July 2011 - Simple Subdivision of Van Orden Property
October 2011 -Maguire LLC had a house lot boundary change this gave Lot B frontage on
Pennsylvania Avenue .
December 2011 -a division/re-absorption rectangular portion was transferred to the
property owner and was sold to Parcel B from Robertson as a boundary change .
This was the last change until this subdivision.
After lengthy discussion it was noted that the property should not be defined as a flag lot,
as the PB interprets the standards in the Zoning Law. The geometry of a flag lot was
discussed as well as should this be allowed as a flag lot with extra acreage . It was noted
that this came to the Board in the wrong form. They felt this should go before the Zoning
Board to receive a variance. Once this is done this Board could review as a Minor
subdivision.
Mr. Wertis MADE the MOTION, Mr. Hawkes SECONDED the MOTION :
Whereas the Town of Ulysses Planning Board reviewed on February 7, 2012. the Minor
Subdivision proposal submitted by Phil Maguire and Corie Wilcox for Parcel 12 -2- 10 .2,
and
Whereas a review of the sketch plat for that parcel shows that Parcel A does not have the
required road frontage ( 160') to be a legal and conforming lot, and
Whereas the conformation of the lot does not correlate with the Town of Ulysses Zoning
Law definition of a " flag lot" , therefore
Be it resolved that the Planning Board rejects the application for subdivision as presented.
The vote was taken :
Mr. Fry Nay
Mr. Hawkes Aye
Ms . Schneider Aye
Mr. Wertis Aye
Mr. Zeserson Aye
MOTION APPROVED , APPLICATION DENIED .
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Mr. Zeserson stated the next order of business is the Lakeshore and Conservation Zones
comparison as prepared by Mr. Hawkes .
The group reviewed the documents at length edits and comments were noted and
changed . Mr. Smith did note that if extensive changes to the Lakeshore Zone were made
he would need to reconvene the Committee to discuss the changes . It was noted changes
would be brought up and questioned if experts were on either committee, it was noted
there were several very educated and lifelong residents of the lake area who participated
on the Lakeshore Zoning Committee . The Yacht Club was recently being looked at by a
local businessman that has raised concern to the members . The members agreed they had
gotten through a lot of the items and would like to have the edits prepared and continue
the review at the next meeting .
Ms . Kiley stated the next order of business she would like to have discussed is the
Trudell subdivision. The traditional build out indicated 8 building lots, some have
duplexes some have single homes with maximum of 20 dwelling units . She asked the
members if they felt this met the traditional plat requirement. The members discussed the
plat. It was noted the wetland boundaries need to be determined. In addition the DEC
needs to be contacted regarding the wetlands . It was determined Ms . Kiley would contact
the agency and verify this is classified in their wetlands and determine the boundaries . If
this is true the setbacks would be 100 feet and would have to be met in all development
of this lot. The members agreed Ms. Kiley should inform Mr. Trudell that to date they are I
accepting however continue to remind him of the wetland boundaries/setbacks .
Ms . Carlisle Peck stated the minutes of 01 /03 / 12 and 01 / 17/ 12 need to be reviewed for
approval .
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Mr. Zeserson MADE the MOTION, Mr. Hawkes SECONDED the MOTION to approve
the minutes of 01 /03/ 12 and 01 / 17/ 12 .
Vote was unanimous, MINUTES APPROVED .
Respectfully submitted,
Robin Carlisle Peck
Secretary
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