HomeMy WebLinkAbout2012-01-03-PB TOWN OF ULYSSES
PLANNING BOARD
MINUTES
01 /03/12
APPROVED 02/07/12
Present : Chairperson-Ken Zeserson, Members- Sarah Adams, Stan Beames, Peter Fry,
Rod Hawkes, Rebecca Schneider, John Wertis, Environmental Planner Darby Kiley
Mr. Zeserson called the meeting to order at 7 : 00pm. He asked Ms . Kiley to review the
project again briefly.
Ms . Kiley stated they would be reviewing a minor subdivision approval for a project off
from Honey Bee Lane . The original owner, Richard Parker has additional property off
from Honey Bee Lane that connects with Route 96 . She has scoured through the
subdivisions but cannot locate the approval of the last parcel off from Honey Bee Lane
that was subdivided . Gary Trudell has requested an additional subdivision for the Honey
Bee Lane and Route 96 section. She suggested Mr. Parker request a 3 parcel subdivision
to maintain compliance with all of the subdivisions .
Ms . Adams asked if they could identify the remaining lots, the 25 acre lot be K and the
remaining lot be L.
Mr. Wertis asked if the remaining lots would be legal and conforming.
Ms . Kiley replied all lots would be legal and conforming.
Ms. Schneider noted there is a wetland on the new lot, however as long as this came back
before them she did not see this as an issue for subdivision.
Ms . Kiley stated this Board would review this project for further development .
Mr. Wertis noted that Mr. Trudell had stated that the property off Route 96 goes downhill
however he noted it goes downhill .
Ms . Adams asked who provided the "Topo maps"
Ms . Kiley replied they were provided to Mr. Parker by Mr. Trudell ' s surveyor.
Mr. Zeserson asked if there were any other concerns or questions . None were offered
Mr. Zeserson MADE the MOTION, Mr. Wertis SECONDED the MOTION as follows :
Whereas the Town of Ulysses Planning Board has reviewed the Subdivision Tax Map#
26 . -3 - 8 . 42 under Minor Subdivision regulations,
Therefore Be it Resolved that the Planning Board of the Town of Ulysses, approved the
Subdivision of Tax Map# 26 . -3 - 8 . 42, Richard Parker, Town of Ulysses .
The vote was taken :
Ms . Adams aye
Mr. Beames aye
Mr. Fry aye
Mr. Hawkes aye
Ms. Schneider aye
Mr. Wertis aye
Mr. Zeserson aye
APPROVED
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Mr. Zeserson stated the next order of business is the Cluster Subdivision portion of this
project. He would like to take a straw poll vote of the members, who would support
cluster subdivision, what is the trade off. The members discussed and noted denser
development would be the trade off, less land is needed for development. But who does
this benefit, why have the requirements we have if this is not what is desired?
After discussion it was noted clarification was needed regarding the Trudell Cluster
Subdivision, building houses on separate plats with single owner, is this a true cluster
subdivision? What are the benefits of cluster development — costs, benefits? It was noted
there is not a formal submission of any sort. Mr. Trudell is testing the waters to see if this
is a possibility. The Board asked, "What is he doing? ' the project is compliant with the
Route 96 Corridor study and open space regulations, it offers affordable housing that
reflects the Comprehensive Plan. The Board noted they do not have a problem with this
project however, are unsure how to proceed.
A lengthy discussion concluded with Ms. Kiley contacting Ms . Geldenhuys to review the
project for Cluster Subdivision vs . Subdivision Regulations . Mr. Wertis would assist in
drafting questions from the Board. Ms . Kiley noted she had already provided information
to Ms . Geldenhuys regarding the project. Mr. Trudell had been checking in regularly
regarding action on this project, he had scheduled perk tests done on site. It was noted the
next meeting would be 01 / 17/ 12 .
Mr. Wertis stated he had been reviewing old documents for disposal . He came across the
Route 96 Corridor study. He noted that the study designated the best place for nodal
development was within a quarter mile of Jacksonville . The incentive was to increase
development around Jacksonville where there is water, however there is not sewer. He is
concerned the group may concentrate where there are not utilities vs. where there are
such as the hospital and Trumansburg.
He noted the Planning Board does not have the control to preserve rural character as this
Board does not restrict single family homes, they could have setbacks or buffers . He
noted the Lakeshore and Conservation Zone ' s are trying to preserve this .
Ms . Schneider noted that she had reviewed the Lakeshore Zone and the Wetland
requirements are not in compliance with NYS . She stated this is difficult due to the
different maps that are currently in place. She would recommend this Town use the most
stringent maps .
Mr. Hawkes stated he would review the document and appreciated Ms . Schneider' s input
in the process .
Mr. Wertis stated he is questioning why the removal of Site Plan Review happened for
the Lakeshore Zone. The discussion concluded with the Town Board initiating a
directive that this be addressed as an onerous task for the Planning and Zoning Board ' s
for both the Lakeshore and the Conservation Zoning Board. It was felt by the Lakeshore
Zone that if all the setback, design standards were met the Site Plan would not be needed .
If a project comes in that does not meet the requirements then a review would be done by
the Planning Board .
Ms . Carlisle Peck presented the minutes :
Mr. Wertis made the MOTION, Mr. Zeserson SECONDED the MOTION to approve the
minutes as follows , 10/04/ 11 , and 10/ 18/ 11 as presented, 12/03/ 11 Ms Adams questioned
the listing of Mr. Trudell and Mr. Parker as the applicants, Ms . Kiley stated both names
appeared on the application.
10/04/ 11 , 10/ 18/ 11 12/03/ 11
Ms . Adams abstained abstained aye
Mr. Beames aye aye aye
Mr. Fry aye aye aye
Mr. Hawkes aye aye aye
Ms . Schneider aye aye aye
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Mr. Wertis aye aye aye
Mr. Zeserson aye aye aye
The meeting was adjourned at 9 : 00 pm.
Respectfully submitted,
Robin Carlisle Peck
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