HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Board Minutes - October 16, 2014Town of Danby Planning Board
Minutes of Regular Meeting
October 16, 2014
Present:
Joel Gagnon
Frank Kruppa
Ted Melchen
Jim Rundle
Steve Selin
Naomi Strichartz
Absent:
Anne Klingensmith
Others Present:
Secretary Patty Jordan
Code Officer Sue Beeners
Town Board Leslie Connors, Ric Dietrich (Town Supervisor)
Public Ray VandeBogart, Mike Sullivan, Bill Kuhns, Duanne Miller
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Additions to the Agenda
Three items were added to the agenda: 1) letter from the PB to the Town's attorney, 2)
draft resolution templates, and 3) motions vs. resolutions.
Approval of Minutes
The approval of the August 21, 2014, minutes was delayed until the October meeting.
Privilege of the Floor
Bill Kuhns spoke indicating that he would like to make some changes to the approved Eagle Au -
tomotive Repair Shop site plan. Kruppa informed him that if he alters the site plan after approval, he
will need to resubmit a new proposal and it will be processed according to the standard, formal pro-
cedure.
Beeners handed out a proposal from Michael Hovanec, owner of Fort Locks Storage and Bailey
Park. He would like to remove the oldest existing Fort Locks storage building and replace it with a
climate-controlled building. He would also like to erect new storage units in Bailey Park. Considera-
tion of this proposal and a possible public hearing will be added to the PB’s October meeting agenda.
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Consider Public Hearing Matter!
!There was a brief discussion resulting in agreement that Section 901 and 902 of the Zoning Ordi -
nance are not of concern regarding this proposal. Selin stated that this is the perfect example of a low
impact proposal.
RESOLUTION NO. 41 OF 2014 - CONSIDER GRANTING SPECIAL PERMIT FOR SECOND, DETACHED DWELLING,
2167 DANBY ROAD (SULLIVAN)
Whereas, this action is to Consider Granting a Special Permit for a second, detached dwelling on one lot,
whereby a detached garage would be converted into an accessory apartment, 2167 Danby Rd., Tax Parcel
14.-1-22.6, 17.13+/- acres, Low Density Residential Zone, Michael and Michelle Sullivan, owners/applicants; and
Whereas, this is a Type II action which requires no further environmental review, pursuant to 6NYCRR Part 617
and Town of Danby Local Law No. 2 of 1991; and
Whereas, the Planning Board has reviewed the application materials for this proposal; and
Whereas, the Planning Board has reviewed the General and the Miscellaneous Considerations Required for All
Special Permits provided in Section 901 and 902 of the Town of Danby Zoning Ordinance; and
Whereas, the Planning Board on September 18, 2014 has held a public hearing on the matter; Now, Therefore
it is
Resolved, that the Town of Danby Planning Board grants a Special Permit to Michael and Michelle Sullivan for a
second, detached dwelling on one lot, whereby a detached garage would be converted into an accessory apart-
ment, 2167 Danby Rd., Tax Parcel 14.-1-22.6, 17.13+/- acres, Low Density Residential Zone.
Moved by Gagnon, Second by Melchen. The motion passed.
In Favor: Gagnon, Melchen, Rundle, Selin, Strichartz, Kruppa.
Sketch Plan Review
Consider Scheduling Public Hearing, for Application for Special Permit for second, detached dwelling on one
lot, whereby a detached garage would be converted into an accessory apartment, 92 Hillview Road, Tax Parcel
26.-1-6.1, LD Res. Zone, Gerald and Kathryn Decker, owners/applicants
Duanne Miller (the Decker’s contractor) stated that the apartment would be on the first floor only.
Strichartz said that she would like to see some provision in the zoning for when families need to ex-
pand or convert their properties to accommodate other family members.
MOTION - SET PUBLIC HEARING
Moved that the Town of Danby Planning Board schedule a Public Hearing for 7pm, October 16, 2014, to consid-
er a Special Permit for second, detached dwelling on one lot, whereby a detached garage would be converted
into an accessory apartment, 92 Hillview Road, Tax Parcel 26.-1-6.1, LD Res. Zone, Gerald and Kathryn Decker,
owners/applicants.
Moved by Selin, Second by Strichartz. The motion passed.
In Favor: Gagnon, Melchen, Rundle, Selin, Strichartz, Kruppa
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Letter to Town Attorney
Rundle passed around his draft version of the letter from the PB to Guy Krogh, Town of Danby
Attorney. The memo addressed the communication between the PB and the attorney in regards to the
Eagle Automotive Repair Shop and included suggestions to improve communication in the future.
Selin pointed out the second sentence in paragraph two which says, “The memo we received from
you did not help us decide this issue.” He suggested that the language should be more specific in re-
gards to the help that the PB would like from the attorney. Rundle said that he believed he addressed
that in paragraph four of the letter. Melchen stated that he did find the memo from the attorney helpful
when he made his decision regarding the Eagle Automotive Repair Shop but that he understood that
not all of the PB members did. For future communications, the PB agreed they should be more specif-
ic in their request in order for the attorney to be more specific in his response. After further brief dis-
cussion, it was decided to leave the letter as it is and have Kruppa sign on behalf of the PB and send it
to Krogh.
MOTION - LETTER TO TOWN ATTORNEY
Moved that the Town of Danby Planning Board authorizes Chairperson Kruppa to sign the letter to Town of Dan-
by Attorney, Guy Krogh, on behalf of the Planning Board and send it to him via Email.
Moved by Gagnon, Second by Strichartz. The motion passed.
In Favor: Gagnon, Rundle, Selin, Strichartz, Kruppa
Opposed: Melchen
Draft Resolution Templates
Beeners had e-mailed proposed resolution templates to the PB. There was discussion about the
need for draft approval and denial resolutions for every proposal. Kruppa said that, in his experience,
a draft resolution is based on one side and a draft approval resolution does not mean that, ultimately,
the PB cannot deny. He also felt that the effort to put together two drafts for every proposal is not
necessary. Selin agreed with Kruppa and felt that it is rare that the public perceives the draft approval
resolutions as if the Board had already made a decision. Strichartz stated that she did not believe it
was a rare instance and that sometimes people may not come to public hearings because they are un-
der the impression a decision has already been made. Beeners indicated that she would not produce
two draft resolutions for every proposal and feels that the draft approval resolutions are a starting
point and can be changed to denial. It was agreed that a disclaimer be added to the bottom of the
agenda indicating that the draft resolution does not indicate a decision by the PB. Kruppa said he
would draft language for this disclaimer.
Training!
!Rundle pointed out the zoning training being held at TC3 on October 30, 2014, and indicated that
he would be attending.
Motions vs. Resolutions!
!It was agreed that general, procedural items would be recorded in the minutes as motions. Items
that are more important or lengthy will be recorded as resolutions.
Town Board Liaison Report!
!Connors reported that there are two upcoming meetings in Caroline that she will be attending.
The first is on the “basics” of aquifers and will be held on September 25, 7-8:30. The second will be
on aquifer general threats and protective measures and will be held on October 21, 7-8:30. She also
suggested “Site Plan Exemptions” of the Zoning Ordinance as a section for review and possible
amendment.!
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!“Draft Groundwater Protection Law” Amending the Town of Danby Zoning Ordinance to Pro -
tect Groundwater Resources, and Amendments to Land Division and Subdivision Regulations to En-
hance Groundwater Protection - Review of Next Steps.
Gagnon gave a brief update of the meeting with Steve Winkley (Water Resources Specialist, New
York Rural Water Association). He reported that the draft law includes fairly strict provisions for pro-
posals that are on land overlying aquifer recharge areas. In addition, there is a long list of prohibited
uses, including gas stations and hairdressers. Any suggested changes can be sent to Winkley who is
working on a revised version. There will be another meeting at the end of October. Beeners indicated
that once there is agreement, it will be added to the PB agenda and the PB would make a recommen-
dation to the TB. Gagnon said he would like public opinion before the PB makes their recommenda-
tion to the TB.
Zoning Issues Discussion
Beeners had prepared and distributed proposed changes to Article II, Section 201(B) – LAND
DIVISION BY PERMIT - of the Subdivision and Land Division Regulations of the Town of Danby.
She felt that the administrative burden for deleting Section 201(B) would be high. She had looked at
some statistics and said that potentially, the PB could have ~20 proposals a year if this Section is
deleted altogether. She suggested instead changing the large- lot land division from 8 acres or more
to 20 acres or more. She also suggested changing the small-lot land division from less than 8 acres
and 3 consecutive years to less than 20 acres and 10 consecutive years. Selin felt that changing the
numbers was a better idea than deleting the provision because it provides a framework for applicants.
Beeners mentioned that as a longer range change she would suggest looking at the recreational
open space provision with a goal of requiring preserved open space.
Selin moved that changing the numbers in Section 201(B) be the first item to make the “short
list” of zoning changes to be recommended to the Town Board. Kruppa indicated that a vote would
be held on the motion but that all recommended changes would be sent together at one time to the
Town Board.
RESOLUTION NO. 42 OF 2014 - SUBDIVISION AND LAND DIVISION RECOMMENDED CHANGES
Resolved, That the Town of Danby Planning Board recommend to the Town Board that three changes be
made to Article II, Section 201(B)-LAND DIVISION BY PERMIT, of the Subdivision and Land Division
Regulations of the Town of Danby, as follows:
B. LAND DIVISION BY PERMIT – A division of land in which all criteria are met for one of the following options:
1. Option #1 – A large-lot land division is permitted, provided the following criteria are met:
a. All lots resulting from the land division are eight (8) twenty (20) acres or more, each with frontage on a
public road maintained year-round;
b. All lots resulting from the land division meet all other pertinent zoning requirements; and
c. No extension or improvement of an existing, or creation of a new public road, public utility, or other public
facility or area is involved.
2. Option #2 – A small-lot land division is permitted, where the division results in a lot or lots of less than eight (8)
twenty (20), provided that the following criteria are met:
a. No other division(s) or subdivisions(s) involving the parcel being divided except for Land
Annexation have taken place within the previous three (3) ten (10) consecutive years;
b. The division results in no more than two lots, including the parcel being divided;
c. All lots resulting from the land division have frontage on a public road maintained year-round;
d. All lots resulting from the land division meet all other pertinent zoning requirements; and
e. No extension or improvement of an existing, or creation of a new public road, public utility, or public facili -
ty or area is involved.”
Moved by Selin, Second by Gagnon. The motion passed.
In Favor: Gagnon, Melchen, Rundle, Selin, Strichartz, Kruppa.
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Beeners had also prepared and distributed proposed changes to Section 701 – LIMITATION OF
USES WITHIN 200 FEET OF A RESIDENCE ZONE and 704 – PUBLIC GASOLINE FILLING
STATIONS AND GARAGES of the Town of Danby Zoning Ordinance. The proposed changes were
to delete “garage or shop for the painting or repairing of automobile bodies or fenders” from Section
701, to expand Section 704 to include automotive repair facilities and body shops, to add “...or any
occupied dwelling in any zone” to Section 704(1), to change the setback in Section 704(2) to 50 feet,
to add Section 704(3) which addresses heavier use facilities be setback 300 feet instead of 200 feet,
and to add Section 704(4) which addresses the general elevation of a public vehicle-servicing area.
There was discussion of these changes and additions and it was agreed that the word “occupied”
should be removed, Section 704(2) should be left at 30 feet instead of increasing to 50 feet, and the
newly-added Section 704(4) should be deleted.
MOTION - ZONING ORDINANCE RECOMMENDED CHANGES
Moved, that the Town of Danby Planning Board Recommend to the Town Board changes to Section 701 and
Section 704 of the Town of Danby Zoning Ordinance.
Moved by Strichartz, Second by Rundle. The motion was tabled.
There was further discussion of Section 701 and whether “...or any dwelling in any zone” should
be added. There was also discussion of what specific types of facilities should be included in the list
in Section 701. Connors suggested that light pollution should be included along with “loud or unusual
noise, fumes, or odors...” Kruppa indicated that Sections 701 and 704 should be looked at one more
time at the next meeting before any recommendations are made.
Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 9:10pm. !!!!!!!
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Patty Jordan, Planning Board Recording Secretary
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