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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPWC Minutes 2011-02-15 PWC 2-15- 2011 TOWN OF ITHACA PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE February 15, 2011, 10:30 a.m. Public Works Facility Board and Staff Present: Bill Goodman, Nahmin Horwitz, Rich DePaolo, Jim Weber, Mike Smith, Creig Hebdon Approval of Minutes – Jan 25, 2011 Moved by Mr. DePaolo, seconded by Nahmin Horwitz. Unanimous. Member Comments/Concerns -- None a. Consider modifications to agenda – None Belle Sherman Cottages – Preliminary Infrastructure Consideration Mr. Hebdon gave an overview. Mr. DePaolo asked if there would be phasing of the project and if there were easements needed? (no) Members of the Development Team presented the infrastructure plans. Mr. DePaolo moved to recommend to the Board that they accept the concept and location of the infrastructure as presented subject to the approval of the Town Engineer and necessary Planning Board approval(s). Seconded by Mr. Goodman. Unanimous Cleveland Estates – Preliminary Infrastructure Consideration Representatives were present and gave a brief over view of the location and construction of the infrastructure and drainage designs. Motion made by Rich DePaolo, seconded by Nahmin Horwitz to move the approval of the concept of location of the infrastructure on to the Town Board. Construction Staging Discussion and Consideration Residents from the Christopher Circle Neighborhood Group were present. Mr. Goodman reported that the Town Board requested a policy/procedure memo or resolution on how Town staff will move forward with construction projects in the future. Mr. Weber noted that there are two types of construction, town-run and contractor-run projects. With Town-constructed jobs, the stockpiling and staging could be done on the side of the road in the ROW’s but there would be increased costs and traffic concerns because of barriers, cones, lights etc. Larger projects or contractor-run projects are dependent on the contractor. Many variables with state regulations coming into play, i.e. trailers etc may be needed. Some contractors will PWC 2-15- 2011 negotiate with private property owners to secure staging sites in exchange for services or money. The Town could put regulations in the bid documents requiring review by the Town of the designated staging area selected by the contractor, but it would also depend on the zone and what is allowed by right as far as trailers, fences, grading etc. The definition of Right-of-Ways were explained and discussed. Discussion turned to possible staging areas outside of the Town such as Cornell property or Lansing land. Mr. Weber was not comfortable with that for liability reasons and, moving the same type of NIMBY issues to another municipality. Mr. Goodman brought the discussion back to a draft proposal for the Town Board. He suggested that Town-run projects would submit a proposed staging site and the determining factors for choosing it and if it were contractor-run, a requirement would be put in the bid documents with the same requirement. The Town Board would then be able to determine whether it was agreeable. Mr. DePaolo noted that emergency repairs would not be included. Specific upcoming projects and possible staging alternatives were discussed. Mr. Goodman asked what we would be doing differently in bid specifications. Mr. Weber stated that we would have to state the restrictions in the specifications because it would impact their costs. What they have to go through to get approval on a staging area needs to be very clear. Discussion followed on whether the Town Board is going to have to give approval or just be made aware of it. If it was Town property, the Board could, but if it was private property, the only restrictions would be in zoning regulations. The difficulty in thinking of all scenarios was discussed. To provide a document that could be a resolution or law would be difficult. To frame the concerns as more of a policy that could be supported by the Board on a case-by-case basis would work. Discussion followed. Mr. Goodman wanted to keep it simple such as: If it is a project that the Town is going to do the work on, at the time the project comes to the Town Board for approval, at that point the proposed staging options should be discussed. The staging should be part of the description of the project. Notification processes were discussed. Mr. Merrill thought the Christopher Circle residents should be notified if the tank site was being considered. Discussion followed. Mr. Goodman asked Mr. Weber to come up with a paragraph describing the “policy” for the th full Board to consider on March 7 . The discussion then moved to the legality of whether a municipality has to follow its own rules and regulations. The courts have determined that they do not and there is a balancing test that each project would go through and a review would happen and a determination would be made on a case-by-case basis. Mr. DePaolo stated that that is what the Town Board PWC 2-15- 2011 is trying to do with this policy. Each project would have to be weighed and sometimes, in the interest of the Town as a whole, the site may be used even though it is distasteful to the neighbors. Mr. Merrill stated that he was 100% in favor of that, but worried about the notification process for the neighborhood. He was looking to build trust between the neighborhood and the Town and that the Town is at least thinking about the impact to the Town. Mr. DePaolo responded that the neighborhood is getting a lot of attention to this matter and the Board is going so far as proposing a policy and process in place and that should engender trust. (Mr. Horowitz had to leave) Updates on (if time available)  City of Ithaca Maple Ave. Tank Draining – Mr. Weber stated that we have been approached by the City and they would like to drain their tank and open a valve and drain through our system into the drainage along Pine Tree Rd. they will have to install a new pipe, hydrant lateral and a valve at their cost. He had no issues with what they were proposing and ROW’s and maintenance agreements are all in place. Future Agenda Items: Water and Wastewater Master Plan 2011 Project Schedule Forest Home Wall/sidewalk work Forest Home Trail options