HomeMy WebLinkAbout2004-12-14 - TB TOWN OF ULYSSES
REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING
DECEMBER 14, 2004
PRESENT : Supervisor Doug Austic, Town Councilpeople Lee Scott, Robert
Weatherby; Roxanne Marino and Don Ellis ; Town Clerk Marsha Georgia; Highway
Superintendent James Meeker; Deputy Supervisor Richard Coogan; Attorney Bruce
Wilson.
Others Present : Planning Board Chairman John Wertis, Code Enforcement Officer Alex
Rachun, Mary Bouchard, Tompkins County Representative Peter Penniman, Stormwater
Committee person Rebecca Schneider, Ruth Kahn, Ron MacLean, CPA Duane Schoen.
Supervisor Austic called the meeting to order at 7 : 30 pm, and led those assembled in the
Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES : RBM 10/12/2004 & 11 /09/2004 — SBM 10/05/2004,
11 /4/2004, 11 /18/2004 AND PH 11 /4//2004
Supervisor Austic stated that he reviewed the corrections and/or changes submitted my
Ms . Marino and had no problems with them.
Ms . Marino stated she had not had time to review the minutes of the Regular Board
Meeting of November 9, 2004 and asked for those to be tabled. The Board unanimously
agreed to table those minutes .
Mr. Ellis moved, seconded by Mr. Scott to approve the minutes with the changes and or
corrections presented by Ms . Marino for the Regular Town Board meeting of October 12 ,
2004, the Special Town Board meetings of October 5 , 2004, November 4, 2004 and
November 18 , 2004 and the Public Hearing of November 4, 2004 .
Mr. Austic aye
Mr. Scott aye
Mr. Weatherby aye
Ms. Marino aye
Mr. Ellis aye
Adopted.
Ms. Marino suggested having a sign-in sheet so we can avoid just listing in the minutes
"unknown" for people attending who the Clerk does not know.
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS
Mr. Weatherby moved, seconded by Mr. Ellis and Mr. Scott to approve the previously
examined vouchers #611 through 668 in the amount of $ 33 ,219 . 25 .
Mr. Austic aye
Mr. Scott aye
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Mr. Weatherby aye
Ms. Marino aye
Mr. Ellis aye
Adopted.
REPORTS OF REPRESENTATIVES
Chairman John Wertis reported that the Planning Board has changed their monthly
meeting to the third Tuesday of the month . The Planning Board did meet on November
16 , 2004 and passed on recommendations for Design Standards for the Zoning
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Ordinance . The next meeting is December 21 , 2004 and will finish the work on Design
Standards and continue the review of the Sub-division and have recommendations back
to the Town Board on that.
Also Mr. Wei-tis stated that there is a seat to come open at the end of December and he is
not going to make any recommendations on who or how the Town Board selects but only
that a selection be made in a timely fashion so that the Planning Board is not short a
person.
Tompkins County Board Representative Peter Penniman provided a map showing the
distribution of Tompkins County Homeownership Program throughout the County of
people they have helped with financing when people qualify. The County did not get the
funds this year but they have some to keep it going .
The biggest item Mr. Penniman stated that he should report about is that the County
passed the budget. For the most part the County operations are remaining pretty stable,
the biggest challenges were spending for capital projects that the highway needs . The
County has made a new commitment to increase the highway maintenance and it will
take a number of years, but they will bring that back to a higher standard than it has been.
The County' s goal was an increase of 3 % in spending and the County Administrator did
accomplish that but he did not have much capital spending so the Board had to add
spending to highway and for the public safety communication system. The other big
debate was about the jail . The jail expansion was defeated in the budget 8 to 7 so at this
time the County is holding off on any expansion of the jail although they still have the
plans and the concept is still there, but are holding off on spending because once they do
build a new $il that building would add a debt service to the budget by around $400,000
including staffing. So for the time being the County will board out prisoners and evaluate
the jail population and make a determination on a year-by- year basis on if the facility
needs to be expanded.
Mr. Ellis stated that he understood, with the jail, that one of the big factors was the
pressure from the State and not giving the variances for the prison population. Is that
pressure not what it was before?
Mr. Penniman stated that what ever the County builds for a jail the State has to approve
and they have been threatening to take away the variances, lowering the population
permitted in the jail . The County has been hesitant in doing that because it means
immediately boarding out prisoners. Now it has come down to the point that even with
boarding out prisoners the County feels like it is worth the money instead of expanding
the new jail at this time.
Mr. Scott commented that the jail position is about back to where it was ten years ago as
far as boarding out prisoners .
Mr. Penniman stated that the population is not any higher. The average this past year was
67 and that was the lowest it has been in ten years and is not growing anywhere ' s near the
rate that was predicted. Right now the population is around 90 and not sure why that is .
A study will be done of all the reasons that cause the fluctuation in the jail and also to get
a better handle on which of those you could control or have an impact on through putting
people in different programs, community service and rehab to keep them from coming
County also needs better data on why the persons are in ail so that can be
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analyzed to see if the programs have any affect on them.
The County will lose the variance from the State on December 21st and immediately will
be boarding out prisoners . This will increase the spending so hopefully every thing that
can be donee to analyze that situation will be, to see what we could do to help the
situation.
Mr. Meeker asked why the flashing light at the intersection of Perry City Road and
Halseyville Road was not turned on .
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Mr. Penniman stated he did not know and was hoping that Mr. Meeker would know the
answer to that.
Mr. Meeker will call the County Highway and or State to see what is up with the light .
Ms . Marino asked Mr. Penniman if it was his sense that the approval of the Tompkins
County Comprehensive Plan is going to be addressed at the December 21 , 2004 County
Board meeting.
Mr. Penniman answered that he thought so and asked if Ms . Marino had any comment
about that?
Ms. Marino stated that it is on the agenda for this evening.
Mr. Penniman stated that he would stay for that discussion.
DUANE SCHOEN, C.D.L.M. & CO.
Mr. Schoen of Ciaschi, Dietershagen, Little & Mickelson Accounting Firm
Supervisor Austic introduced Mr. Duane Schoen of C . D . L. & M Accounting firm to
discuss the possibility of performing an audit .
Mr. Schoen thanked the Board for giving him a few minutes and what he will do tonight
is give the Board a little bit of an understanding of what an audit is, what the different
options are because you have three options, two of which they are really familiar with
and one that they are not that familiar with, but trying to learn more about. Most
importantly the Board can ask questions of someone that does audits . The different
options are :
• GAAP Audit — most comprehensive, which does everything across the board and
that is the GAAP audit — Generally Accepted Accounting Principals — this is the
principals for governmental accounting that have been established nationally.
Those principals are somewhat different but in most respects the same as the way
the Town reports their information to the State on its annual update document
every year. There are some important differences between GAAP and that update
document reporting and the most important difference is a fairly new
governmental standard commonly called Gasby 34 . That new standard requires a
fair amount of additional information for a government that is going to issue
financial statements in accordance to GAAP . There is quite a bit of information
about capital assets . Under older accounting principals governments were
encouraged but not required to report the value of cost of infrastructure and that is
now required . Either actual cost or estimated historical costs are used to
determine the municipality infrastructure assets , roads, bridges, waterlines, sewer
lines, and other things like that. That is the biggest difference between the old
GAAP and the new GAAP procedures under this new model . There are some
other differences but they are less important. The first option to do then is an
audit of GAAP financial statements. In order for the firm to do a audit of GAAP
financial statements they would need to have GAAP financial statements so what
would have to happen is that they would begin with the Towns annual update
document. Using information from the Town in respect to their capital assets and
a whole bunch of other information the firm would assist the Town in putting
together these GAAP financial statements . The audit procedures that the firm
would perform in accordance with those financial statements are under general
accepted auditing standards . The auditing standards that are in place nationally in
that all accounting firms are required to use in the conduct of audits . It requires
testing of the municipality internal control system, it requires insuring that the
system is working properly and it also includes a fair amount of detail testing to
make sure that all the cash that has been reported, is in the bank or in transit or
agrees with the Town ' s information . This audit also is making sure that revenues,
monies that are due from the State and monies that are due to be paid out have
been reported properly, and than all of the town ' s assets, liabilities, revenues,
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expenditures have been accounted for properly, This option is fairly
comprehensive and requires a fair amount of time and effort, but it provides the
widest base on which to judge whether things are working, as they should.
• Second Option is to the other extreme and is usually referred to as an Agreed
Upon Procedure Engagement. An Agreed Upon Procedure Engagement is used
where there is a more limited scope of what the Board would want audited. Say
for example the Board is concerned about a particular department within the
Town, the highway department for example. The firm would, by working with
the Board, design some appropriate tests to see that the things that there is
concern about are being adequately being addressed. If there are some specific
concerns that the Town has in some specific areas than an Agreed Upon
Procedure Engagement can narrow the focus down to those areas and provide the
Board with some insurance whether those concerns that you have are being
addressed and whether there is a problem with those areas . The Agreed Upon
Procedure Engagement is narrower in its focus ; its focus depends on what the
Board would want . With a GAAP audit everything gets audited, the entire
Town ' s activity gets audited.
• Third Option is kind of in the middle and this one the firm has heard about before
very recently is known as a Regulatory Basis Audit. This is an audit of the entire
Town, but instead of the additional information that is required in order to make
the Town ' s financial statements in accordance with GAAP , all capital asset
information would be an option on the update document and say that the filing
that the Town made with New York State is in accordance with State regulations .
So there is a wider scope there because it does include all the Town ' s information,
but does not require the additional capital asset gathering that would be required
under a GAAP audit . The firm still is investigating how real this option is
because they have not done any of these; they have just heard about them very
recently and are trying to find out how useful they really are . Mr. Schoen is
uncertain but somewhat skeptical that this Regulatory Basis Audit would be
accepted if the Town was to go to bond or if the Town was going to borrow
money. He is skeptical that this type of audit would be acceptable if the Town
had Federal Loans and programs . In those instances a GAAP audit would be -
required .
Mr. Schoen stated he would like to make one comment regarding the GAAP audit, even
if the decision of the Town Board is not to have any auditor, not to have a GAAP audit,
Mr. Schoen thinks it is still important to begin the process of gathering that infrastructure
information in order to comply with Gasby 34 in order to comply with the new
accounting principals for governments because you might not need it now but he thinks it
is pretty likely that it will be needed some time and it is better to start working on
gathering that information now and have it in a better state than to suddenly decide that
you have to barrow money lets say and you have to throw all this rather enormous
amount of information together in a fairly short time frame. Mr. Schoen encourages
beginning working on some of that infrastructure information regardless of any decision
of an audit.
Mr. Austic 'stated that is not entirely true, the Gasby information is not required for a
Town the size of Ulysses for at least another couple of years. Mr. Austic can see his
point in staffing to gather the information and he has looked into this .
Mr. Schoen stated that if you issue GAAP financial statements for the calendar year 2004
it would be required. There are also a couple of qualifiers for a Town of this size . The F
Town is not required but encouraged to gather infrastructure information retroactively.
He encouraIges that because of what he has seen is that if you have debt, but you don ' t
have the assets against it you can end up with a negative at the bottom of the financial
statement and a negative is not a good thing.
Mr. Scott asked whether the third option mentioned was very similar to what the State
would do if they did an audit.
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Mr. Schoen said that it is similar but normally the State procedures are much more detail
focused than his accounting firm ' s , they stay for a long time, they look at a lot of things .
His firm ' s focus in a audit is making sure that the financial statements are not materially
mistaken, so they are not concerned with small errors, they are concerned with making
sure that the financial statements as a whole are reasonably stated or fairly stated.
Mr. Scott asked what dollar and cent wise are we talking about.
Mr. Schoen stated that a GAAP audit and depending how much assistance would be
needed for gathering the capital information, how much of that information you want to
gather he would start with a figure of around $7000 to $ 8000 for a regular GAAP audit.
The Regulatory Audit he is not sure because he has not been able to get enough of an
understanding about how much information is required, but would be somewhat less than
the GAAP audit. The Agreed Upon Procedure Engagement would depend how much
you need done and how much you want to have done . If the focus is very narrow it can
be done fairly inexpensively.
Ms . Marino asked if it was an hourly charge or a unit charge .
Mr. Schoen stated for a GAAP audit it is a fixed cost, if it is the Agreed Upon Procedure
Engagement it most likely would be an hourly fee .
Mr. Ellis stated in regards to the GAAP audit and relative to the capital asset work
sounded judicial and the earlier statements sounded rather absolute.
Mr. Schoen stated that there is a standard to be met and there is the option of not going
backwards, of not retroactively gathering all that information, but the Town is required to
gather all that information going forward and there is no conditionality there, but there is
an option to not retroactively determine the infrastructure assets . The desire to do that
more than anything else probably depends on how much debt is outstanding on those
assets.
Ms. Marino asked for clarification on retroactively for how long.
Mr. Schoen stated what the standard requires for larger municipalities and encourages for
smaller ones . The requirement is to go back 1980 and either record the actual cost if you
can find it, or estimate the historical cost of those assets, of all of your assets, the land,
building, equipment and the infrastructure.
Ms . Marino asked if the firm would help the Town do that with the records the Town has
or would the Town need to summarize that.
Mr. Schoen stated that they would provide some assistance, they are prohibited by
conflict of interest regulations from actually doing the work for the Town, they cannot
make management decisions, and they cannot audit their own work so the work has to be
the Towns but could assist in putting it together.
Mr. Ellis stated that a debt could motivate on how far back to go . He asked Mr. Schoen if
he had a feel how large that task would be without any retroactive work to establish the
base.
Mr. Schoen stated that if there is no retroactive concern at all and it is simply a matter of
going forward than the task is much less complex and it is a matter of starting with the
2004 information in reporting any significant improvements in the infrastructure,
repaving a road, redoing water lines, replacing sewer lines and those types of things
would be reported as new infrastructure assets . One more qualifier, the 1980 rule and the
option to go back applies to the infrastructure, you are required regardless of year to
record the cost or estimate cost of land, buildings and equipment. If you do not have the
actual cost for those things there are a number of ways to estimate historical cost, you can
look at replacement costs and than deflate the price back to when you bought it.
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Mr. Austic stated that would make more sense for the Town of Ulysses, because we have
thought once about hiring someone to figure out an estimate cost for roads, culverts,
bridges, etc . for the years, but if you start now with the new option, which was not an
option a year or so ago, would make more sense because than you know what you are
doing and you can keep on going.
Mr. Ellis stated than the example offered with the Agreed Upon Procedure Engagement
would be decided by the Board as to what to look at and part of that could be the capital
assets across the whole Town, or cash or internal control .
Mr. Schoen stated that is correct, it is up to the Town as to what the Board wants done
and it can slice in any direction you choose, it can be a department, a process, a cash
receipts or disbursements, payroll function, it can slice however you feel is needed .
Ms. Marino stated that if the Board wanted to have Mr. Schoen ' s firm do an audit to
fulfill the NYS requirements of doing an audit every year for 2004, would sort of lead
time does Mr. Schoen ' s firm need.
Mr. Austic stated that if you were working from the audit report that is sent to the State
then the Board would have to audit this years books. anyway because that report is not
done until late February.
Ms . Marino stated that we have 60 days from the close of the fiscal year.
Mr. Schoen stated that if his firm is going to do a full GAAP audit they would typically
do so after the annual financial report is done . Their audit would not begin until that is
filed, so it would more likely not start until March or April .
Ms . Marino stated that it is her understanding the Board could audit or you could hire a
professional auditor to do it . The Board may want to but they do not have too .
Mr. Austic stated that is true but we would have to have an agreed upon contract .
Mr. Schoen stated that there are two separate deadlines . The deadline for filing of an
audit report from his firm is usually nine months after the end of the year so their
deadline would be September 30th. Whereas the Town ' s Annual Financial Statement has
to be filed by Mr. Austic by February 28th.
Mr. Wertis asked what the motivation is having an external audit and wondered why the
existing provisions are not adequate.
Mr. Scott stated that is his question also .
Mr. Ellis stated that it is a matter of responsibility. The Town is responsible for the funds
that they are handling for the general population as well as the State, they are responsible
for funds that essentially belonging to someone else . There are procedures required by
law that you do audit but he feels he is an amateur.
Ms . Marino stated that she feels people that have no training what so ever are doing the
internal audit under our current system .
Mr. Austic stated that every year when he files the Annual Financial Audit with the State
that is basically what an external audit looks at, he has only had one or two questions
over the years he has been filing so apparently he must be making the audit procedure
pretty close to what they require.
Ms . Marino stated that was good, and she is not saying she thinks otherwise it is just that
periodically the Town should have an external independent person, who is trained
professionally, to look and confirm, yes in deed nothing was missed because even the
best intentioned, and most knowledgeable people miss things . It is always good to have
somebody check your work that isn' t involved in it day to day. That is her view .
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Mr. Austic asked if Ms . Marino and Mr. Ellis realized that at any time if he wants or
anyone wants a State audit can be requested and they will no it at no charge.
Ms . Marino asked what the difference would be from a State audit and a hired audit.
Mr. Austic stated that a State audit would be more thorough and the auditors would be at
it most likely longer.
Ms . Marino asked if Mr. Austic would prefer that .
Mr. Austic stated that it would not make any difference but what he is saying that if the
Town spends $ 7,000 to $ 10,000 that is anywhere ' s between 3 % to 5 % of money being
raised for the A Fund in real property tax . If the State does it for nothing and gets the
same result or same information it makes sense to have the State . It is the Board ' s call .
Mr. Weatherby stated that the Board has a responsibility to the taxpayers as far as
spending money unnecessarily.
Ms . Marino asked Mary Bouchard, Village Trustee because she is a public official and a
professional, what see might see as the value of having an external audit done
professionally because the Village has one done each year.
Ms . Bouchard stated that she was not a Village Trustee when the Village originally
decided to have an external audit and does not know why they do an audit every year.
Mr. Austic stated that at one-time years ago there had been a change in personal with the
Clerk/Treasurer who is not an elected official that started the audit and has been
continued.
Ms . Bouchard stated it is done every year and she thinks that it adds to the accountability,
and the auditors make suggestions to the Village about improvements for procedures and
little accounting things that really bookkeepers may not know.
Mr. Scott asked how much it cost the Village.
Ms . Bouchard could not answer that and turned to Mr. Schoen for an answer.
Mr. Scheon stated that he thought it was around $ 6 , 000 to $ 7, 000 .
Ms . Marino asked Ms . Bouchard if she knew why they hire a private firm instead of
requesting a State audit.
Ms . Bouchard stated that she really did not know .
Ms . Georgia stated that the auditor whom ever you choose to do the audit will request
basically the same information, and she has been Clerk through several State audits and a
couple of hired audits and both are very similar. The files are very up-to-date and are
very easily accessible .
Mr. Austic stated that the Village handles Federal money and that does require an
external audit.
Ms. Bouchard stated that she knows when the Village gets money for grants ; it will
require an external audit.
Mr. Austic feels you can get the same sense of security, if that is what is being looked
for, by having the State audit.
Mr. Ellis asked if Mr. Schoen would like to make an argument to hire his firm .
Mr. Schoen stated he thinks what you get from the State is more intrusive than a GAAP
audit would be, the State tends to get very nit picky in details that in the grand theme of
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things do not make a lot of difference . His accounting firm tries to be much more
focused on the big picture and he thinks the biggest down side to having a State audit is
they will spend quite a bit of time on things you really don' t care about and since they are
free they don' t care how long it takes . But the State can do what they call a SMART
audit, which is similar to the Agreed Upon Procedures Engagement audit.
Mr. Schoen asked if there were any more questions for him.
The Board had none and thanked him for coming.
OTHER
Mr. Ronald MacLean stated that he has been reading a lot in the papers about the Town
of Caroline, Nvhich looked into and now has purchased some wind power, which he
believes private citizens also do . He personally feels that this is something that
individuals as well as municipalities should be looking at and he proposes that the Town
of Ulysses at least look into the possibility of taking a chunk of their energy requirements
and see what it would take to put some into wind power.
Mr. Austic has talked to Supervisor Barber of the Town of Caroline and it cost them
about $2, 500 to do that and he told Mr. Austic that it was all by donation that the Town
didn' t have to increase appropriations .
Mr. MacLean feels if it was publicized there would be enough interest and people would
be willing to contribute .
Mr. Austic will review the Town ' s bills and look into that.
TOWN REPORTS
Highway Superintendent James Meeker reported that the highway department cleaned
up after a wind storm, replaced the road crossing pipe on Cold Springs Road, cleaned
ditches on Cold Springs Road, VanDorns Corners Road, and Terrell Road. The trucks
have all been repaired and NYS Inspected, and all the equipment has been washed and
waxed. They have also been hauling stone, cutting brush, salt and plowing when needed .
Mr. Meeker reported that the Town of Ulysses will not be plowing the south ends of
Waterburg Road, Halseyville Road and Podunk Road from Perry City to Iradell Road,
because ToMpkins County Highway Department has added on more trucks and will take
these sections over for plowing.
Mr. Wertis asked about the petitions from Searsburg Road residents about reducing the
speed limit.
Mr. Meeker stated that the State has approved a reduction from Rt. 227 to Curry Road
and it will be posted at 40 MPH and the signs will be installed by the County Highway
Department.
Ms . Marino asked about the correspondence from the concerned citizen in regards to
Krums Corners Road.
Mr. Austic asked her if she had received the copy of his response to the resident and a
copy of what the State had written her. He told them that the State is investigating the
situation where in some cases they put a sign stating a NYS intersection ahead so at least
you would realize it is a major road.
Mr. Meeker had previously checked out the signage and the road is already up to State
specifications . He feels that it is adequate and the more signs put up the less attention is
paid.
Code Enforcement Officer Alex Rachun reported that five (5 ) permits were issued for
additions . Mr. Rachun stated that he does have a map of the Town of Ulysses in his
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office where he has pin pointed the new residents from 2002 to present . This gives
anyone an idea of where the new development has been for the last three years .
Town Clerk Marsha L . Georgia reported that for the month of November a total of
$4 ,355 . 47 was collected and of that $ 713 . 01 was turned over to the Supervisor with her
monthly report. A total of $ 1 , 015 was collected for water fees .
Ms . Georgia has reported to Mary Mills at Tompkins County Assessment 370 . 3 EDU
units for Water District #3 that will be charged on the 2005 Town and County Tax bills .
Last year it was 369 . 3 but actually the increase is not from new homes but was a
reduction of 3 EDU ' s to 1 EDU at Spike ' restaurant on Rt . 96 because it was converted to
a single-family home and the addition of three vacant lots on Honey Bee Lane.
Ms . Georgia reported that the second water billing was just completed and mailed and •
126 residents were billed for a total of $ 3 ,200, which is less than the last billing, because
the last billing was for more than the three months for many residents .
Several new house numbers have been issued this month, which is over thirty for the
year. Ms . Georgia has received over 145 requests for special handling of tax bills such as
calling with figures so that payment can be made in this year' s business, new addresses,
and parcel splits .
Ms . Georgia stated that at last months meeting it was discussed about the additional lands
owned by the Town of Ulysses were discussed . Ms . Georgia did an inventory and
distributed maps of those locations , which turn out to be the one parcel on Route 227 and
the two parcels just outside the Village of Trumansburg on Cayuga Street.
BOARD MEMBERS AND COMMITTEES
Ms. Marino reported that she attended the Tompkins County Water Resources Council
meeting which she is the representative . Ms . Marino stated that Jason Haremza who had
come to the Town to talk about the Fingerlakes Genesee Regional Planning Council
project and the Town ' s participation, which the Town ' s Stormwater committee grew out
of, was giving an update to the Council on the status of their work in Phase 2 of the
project. The Town of Ulysses is actually one of the most active Towns that they are
working with and Mr. Haremza highlighted some of the things that the Town of Ulysses
is doing in his report. Mr. Haremza reported that the projection is that Phase 2 part of the
project, where they are trying to help municipalities come up with ordinances for MS4 is
going to wrap up in the Spring 2005 and not January. So that will give the Town of
Ulysses a little more time also . Also at that meeting the Council has a subcommittee that
is working on an ordinance for stormwater. Ms . Marino stated that it sounded like they
are trying to make it really comprehensive so that municipalities could work off of it and
use pieces that are applicable for their areas, and they thought it may be done and
distributed by the end of December.
Ms . Marino also attended the Tompkins County Municipals Officers Association
Planning Committee meeting, which she would encourage anyone to attend because there
are a lot of dynamic and energetic people thinking about things in relation to zoning and
planning. Ed Marx the Planning Commissioner made a lot of good comments. At the
next meeting they are focusing their discussion on affordable housing in rural areas and
some of the issues we all are grappling with.
Ms. Marino also had a meeting with Mr. Coogan and Sharon Anderson from the Cayuga
lake Watershed Network and Monica Roth and they were talking about trying to get a
focused discussion and working group going to try to explore some of the zoning or other
land use approaches that might be used for rural areas particularly the agricultural one
that all the municipalities are grapping, including ideas about apparitional frontage and
purchase of development rights . This makes sense to interface with the municipal
officers planning group . There is interest in getting different municipalities
representatives working on brain storming some of these ideas because everyone is
grapping with it at some level and there is a lot of information out there. An early
February meeting is trying to be put together.
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Mr. Coogan stated that there is going to be a workshop on January 27th put on by
Cooperative Ext. that will apply directly to that.
Ms . Marino stated that along with John Wertis and David Means of Ulysses Planning
Board and Mr. Austic, she attended the presentation by Bob Summers of NYS Ag and
Markets did on zoning and the Right to Farm Law and what municipalities can and
cannot do . Mr. Summers is very good and very informative and knowledgeable, and he
is a good resource if people have questions . Ms . Marino has his power point presentation
if any one wants it. She can show it or she can email to anyone . Mr. Summers really
stressed working with both farmers and municipalities when there is conflict with local
ordinances and the Right to Farm Law. Mr. Summers said in almost every case, they
have come to sort of a resolution when there has been some sort of a conflict between
local zoning and the farmer' s issues and have never had to sue a town.
Deputy Supervisor Richard Coogan stated that they had the joint meeting with of the
Transportation Council between the policy committee and the planning committee and
Mr. Coogan has a copy of the 2025 long-range plan and summary of responses comments
to the plan. One of the things they are looking at is the transportation corridor and one of
the things they are targeting 2005 are building new Park & Rides .
Supervisor Douglas Austic reviewed his Supervisors Report and stated that there are
some individual accounts that are over but however if you go to the total of each fund
you will find that the actual budget is still under budgeted on all funds and in addition the
revenues area more than anticipated. In general the budget is in good shape . Another
thing is that not all the revenues have been received and will not be received until late
January; they are sales tax and mortgage tax . No questions were heard .
Deputy Supervisor Richard Coogan stated that he has invited Rebecca Schneider who
is on the Ulysses Stormwater Group to come in and give a brief description of what they
are working on because primarily she is the one who has done most of it . One is the non-
regulatory information piece, which is something they are looking at for doing for
homeowners who typically do not fall under stormwater regulations . This would not be
part of the zoning ordinance, it would be something different . The other item is to have
Rebecca explain a little bit about the stream buffers .
Ms . Schneider stated that it has been a pleasure to be working with this committee. The
two pieces that the committee is actively working on is first the educational piece to new
homeowners, which are a key group who do not know what to do about or what their
options are for keeping more of the water on their property so it is not heading into our
streams andcausing erosion and leading to problems with water quality. Ms . Schneider
had a mock jup of what the committee has put together and the final should be ready in
January. This is basically a check list of options, very simply what a new home builder
could do such as changing the gutter design or redirecting the gutters into slow
depressions, very simple strategies up to a complex one and than it is accompanied by
color codedjby types so they can do things with their building design, landscaping,
driveways a'nd walkways and things to think about specifically during construction. Than
another color coded single sheet non-comprehensive description of what the strategy is
and a little bit of information on what it would cost to use that strategy, how much it
could save them or a comparison to what they are currently using. The Ulysses
committee presented it to the Tompkins County Inter-municipal Organization and the
Stormwater! Group and they are all very interested and actually some funding is available .
Ms . Schneider has some money through a grant she has that she will use to pay for a
good share of these that will be made for Ulysses and then they can be distributed here.
Other towns, Sharon Anderson and Kate Hackett with Tompkins County Planning have
all expressed interest, and they all may put up some money to print additional copies .
The one thing is that the committee has not found is a way to evaluate success , other than
the fact they copies may disappear, given out but it sure would be nice to be able to see if
the homeowners have been using them . Maybe a mail in to get more information or
options, or a way to get some kinds of incentive, maybe get a coupon or something. That
is what the educational piece is targeting that specific group , new homebuilders.
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The second piece the committee is working on and this has come out of their discussions
about stormwater for the MS4 . They have been focused on the MS4, but that is not all
and through the discussions they feel they could help evaluate problems that lead into the
MS4 if you look at these other strategies . The other biggie is the issue of streamside
protection and briefly healthy streamside that are woody with trees and scrubs stop flood
water, they stop erosion, they grab sediment from coming off, collects sediments, they
filter ground water, and catch phosphorous and nutrients, trap them there, so all of these
benefits of stream sides are vegetated and get there are no laws right now to protect
stream sides unless they are legally wetlands . So the committee is putting together a draft
like ordinance so that if you are a new homebuilder we would like to specifically target
anyone getting a building permit and any kind of building change, where if are planning
on building that you would have to follow some requirements and you can ' t build next to
a streamside you have to leave it vegetated . The committee is now trying to develop the
guidelines . Right now they are thinking about 25 feet next to what is called an
impermanent stream, those are seasonal streams, ones like along Route 89 where you
don ' t see them but when it rains and in the spring time they are running nonstop and than
for everything bigger than that will pretty much be at 50 foot buff on each side. The next
time the committee meets they will look at the streams and see what the streams are and
come up with a reasonable buffer so they will look at tax maps and see how it really
effects us, look at where these streams would be and these buffers would be .
Mr. Coogan stated that one thing they are looking at is in the new zoning ordinance that
we are reviewing right now is that when it talks about buffers we tend to talk about a
buffer from a visual siting so you do not see something we do not use the term buffer to
talk about saving the streams , so the committee maybe coming in with a recommendation
to look at defining two different kinds of buffers .
The Board commented on the mock up of the educational material and what a great
product .
Ms . Marino asked Ms . Schneider if she knew about what one of the educational
brochures would cost and she replied that she figures around $2 . 00 and if she does it in
house maybe down to $ 1 . 50 .
Ms . Schneider feels if the program were successful the money would not be hard to find.
Mr. Rachun suggested that the building departments distribute the brochure.
ACCEPTANCE OF TOMPKINS COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
Supervisor Austic asked if everyone had read the Tompkins County Comprehensive
Plan?
Ms . Marino stated that she had not read it in complete detail ; she has read parts of it in
earlier drafts and has attended public hearings on the plan .
Mr. Austic was just checking to make sure everyone is familiar with it. Mr. Austic has
read it several times and was originally involved when it started with the Intermunicipal
Association. Tompkins County does understand that they cannot do zoning; this is not a
zoning comprehensive plan. The only thing Mr. Austic sees that could be a disadvantage
is , even though they cannot zone, they could if there was a project that did not completely
mesh with their plan, give a negative ruling on a 239 l &m request .
Ms . Marino stated that the plan is pretty broad sweeping and have put a lot of effort in the
plan.
Mr. Ellis stated that he probably missed place it in his paper storm, but what specifically
is the County asking the Town Board to do?
Mr. Austic stated that they are asking the Town Board for endorsement of the
Comprehensive Plan for Tompkins County.
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Mr. Penniman pointed out the County has had extensive public hearings on the
Comprehensive Plan.
Ms . Marino moved, seconded by Mr. Ellis the following :
WHEREAS Tompkins County has done a lot of work on their Comprehensive
Plan and,
WHEREAS the Tompkins County Comprehensive Plan is in line with the Town
of Ulysses Comprehensive Plan so,
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of
Ulysses endorses the Tompkins County Comprehensive Plan.
Mr. Austic aye
Mr. Scott aye
Mr. Weatherby aye
Ms . Marino aye
Mr. Ellis aye
Adopted.
DATE FOR BOARD OF WATER COMMISSION MEETING
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Supervisor Rustic announced that there was a need for the Water Commission to meet
very briefly for their annual meeting.
The Board unanimously agreed that Friday December 17, 2004 at 8 AM would be a good
time.
DATE FOR PUBLIC HEARING ON ZONING ORDINANCE
Mr. Austic asked should the Town set a date for a Public Hearing on the Zoning
Ordinance?
It was the general consensus of the Town Board to put a good faith effort to have a final
draft of the Zoning done by March 15th, 2005 and tentatively set the Public Hearing for
April 4th, 2005 .
So therefore six to seven meetings may finish up the review . The Board will check their
schedules and come up with dates to review at the December 17th, 2004 Water
Commission meeting. Mr. Austic will contact George Frantz for his schedule also .
The Board also discussed the public input at the work sessions of the Zoning Ordinance .
Although they encourage public input at anytime the Board discussed the interaction of
the public and how it slows down the review process . It was suggested that in the
beginning of the meeting establishing a set period of time total that people can say why
there are attending and another period at the end to comment on the discussion that they
have heard . The other suggestion is encourage people to bring written comments and
also to provide clipboards and paper for comments that evening with a sign in sheet for
attendance .
PLANNING BOARD CONSIDERATION
Mr. Austic stated that several people have expressed interest in the Planning Board
vacancy and also the EMC ; Lucia Tyler and David Lessinger for EMC and Krys Cail ,
and Darien Simmon, also there are some people who previously applied which will be
contacted to see if they may still be interested. Also Lorren Hammond the present
Planning Board member, whose term is up, is requesting to be re-appointed . Mr. Austic
stated that the new applicants should be interviewed sometime before the Board makes a
decision.
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Ms . Marino stated that it seems to her that the Board may want to discuss the
reappointment of Lorren Hammond first and than if the Board decided not to reappoint
Mr. Hammond then interview the Planning Board people . Ms . Marino thinks it should be
separated . She feels that there are issues about having a currently sitting person continue
or not or whether they meet a useful need in making sure that the Planning Board is
pretty broad base; continuity is a huge issue, it is a huge learning curve .
Mr. Austic stated that is true but he would like to know whom these people are and what
they have to offer.
Mr. Ellis would like to do a shorter interview this time, maybe 20 minutes .
Mr. Austic invited John Wertis, Planning Board Chairman to attend the interviews ; no
one had a problem with that.
The question came up as to whether Mr. Hammond resides in the Town of Ulysses .
Ms . Marino stated that she has been thinking about and going to Planning Board
meetings and we have several very good applicants but she still has a hard time arguing
against re-appointing Mr. Hammond because he is vested in the Planning Board and is up
on the top of the learning curve and knows what it is about and is willing to keep the
commitment going. Also he is relativity young as Board members go and he has a
business in the Town, and Ms . Marino thinks he represents a reasonable piece of the
population; that is if he lives in the Town.
Mr. Wertis stated that he was going to compile a list of absences, but they are rather loose
absences ; if any one calls in and states they have to go somewhere than they are excused.
Mr. Ellis stated he thinks Mr. Wertis should put that list together.
The general consensus ,was to interview and a tentative date of January 8 , 2005 was set to
start the interviews at 8AM .
Mr. Coogan suggested that to save time it might not be necessary to interview the
candidates that the Town Board already know . Everyone knew Krys Cail except for Mr.
Scott.
Mr. Ellis stated that he does not see any problem saying to people that they already know
that the Board will wave the interview .
ACCEPTANCE OF ROAD AT TRUMANSBURG APARTMENTS
Mr. Austic stated that before the Board discusses the road he announced that the owner of
the Trumansburg Apartments, Mr. Quinn is coming back to the Village of Trumansburg
to talk with their BZA for a variance . The reason is that his original plan when he
originally discussed it with the Village several years ago included a sidewalk. Originally
the Town said fine that he was going to build a road and a sidewalk. Since that time other
considerations have come along and the Town Attorney looked into the liability of the
Town in the right-of-way.
Mr. Wilson stated that if a sidewalk was installed it would be a Town responsibility to
maintain and also the sidewalk runs to Route 96 and not another sidewalk and this in
itself raises issues .
Mr. Austic stated that once the road is dedicated to the Town the school bus will drive
down into the housing complex and the children will not have to walk out to Route 96 .
Also Mr. Quinn has talked to Tom-Tran and if he builds a turn around the bus will go
down in there.
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The general consensus with the Town Board was that the Town does not want the
sidewalk on the road-right-of-way. Mr. Ellis believes Mr. Quinn should negotiate a right-
of-way with the property owners where the utilities are and bring the sidewalk in that
direction.
Mr. Austic will send a memo to the Village stating why the Town does not want the
sidewalk in the Town ' s right-of-way.
Mr. Wilson stated that before the Board could act on the road dedication an
Environmental Review is necessary.
Ms . Marino questioned why this review was being done after the road was completed .
Mr. Wilson stated that the only consideration of the Board for this SEQR was whether or
not the road should be dedicated, not anything to do with the actual impacts of the road.
Ms. Marion questioned whether any SEQR was done before the road was contructed ; she
was told it was not, as it was a private road . Ms . Marino objected to this process and
what seemed like a subversion of environmental review, as the developer and the Town
and the Village knew the road would be turned over to the Town and not stay a private
road . p
The Board reviewed the Full Environmental Assessment Form Part 1 that was previously
filled out by the developer. The Board went through Part 2 questions 1 through 17 were
answer no to # 18 Will Proposed action affect public health and safety? Answered Yes
and under other impacts stated : Due to the Town of Ulysses maintaining and plowing the
road it would increase public health and safety. Questions # 19 and 20 were no answers .
Having completed the review of Part 2 Mr. Scott moved, seconded by Mr. Weatherby the
following:
WHEREAS , William J. Auble, an owner of certain improved property in the Town, has
asked to formally dedicate a roadway for public use and ownership ; and
WHEREAS , said proposed public roadway is within the Town of Ulysses, services
apartment buildings located in the Village of Trumansburg, and is proposed to be called
"Meadowview Drive " and "Parkside Drive"; and
WHEREAS , the roadways in question was built to Town specifications, and the Town
Engineer and Town Highway Supervisor have reviewed and examined such roadways,
and deem the same fit for public dedication; and
WHEREAS , the documents necessary to approve such roadways dedication have been
reviewed and approved by the Town Attorney, or will be so approved prior to the filing
of the same ; ' and
WHEREAS ; a road dedication triggers review under, and is subject to , the New York
State Environmental Quality Review "SEQR"), Article 8 of the New York State
Environmental Conservation Law and Part 617 of the New York Codes, Rules and
Regulations; ("NYCRR"), and is a Type I action pursuant to NYCRR 617 . 5 ; and
WHEREAS ; as there are no other involved or interested agencies and the proposed action
is wholly within the Town of Ulysses, the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses was duly
designated as the lead agency for conducting an environmental review of the proposed
project ; and
WHEREAS , the Town Board, having conducted a State Environmental Quality Review,
having reviewed and completed an Environmental Assessment Form, and having
reviewed the proposal in light of the Town's zoning and building policies and the Town's
Comprehensive Plan, and after due deliberation thereupon, the Town Board having made
a negative declaration of environmental impact; and
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Comprehensive Plan, and after due deliberation thereupon, the Town Board having made
a negative declaration of environmental impact ; and
WHEREAS , upon due deliberation upon all relevant matters, it is hereby
RESOLVED AND DETERMINED , that the project complies with the requirements of
SEQR, and the Regulations promulgated there under, and the Town Board, as lead
agency, hereby makes a negative declaration of environmental impact.
Mr. Austic aye
Mr. Scott aye
Mr. Weatherby aye
Ms. Marino aye
Mr. Ellis abstained
Adopted.
Mr. Scott moved, seconded by Mr. Weatherby the following :
WHEREAS , the Ulysses Town Board has previously agreed with the Village of
Trumansburg that a Town public road from NYS Route 96 (Main Street) to a new
housing development in the Village of would be mutually beneficial ; and
WHEREAS , the construction of said road is now complete, being at present along a
private right of way across premises owned by William Auble who has offered to deed
same to the Town allowing public access to the Village housing development as more
particularly shown on the attached legal description and map incorporated into the
resolution by reference hereto ; and
WHEREAS , the Town Highway superintendent has by letter of December 9 , 2004
notified and certified the purposed public roads meets all highway standards set by the
State and Town Laws as to construction; and
WHEREAS , the Town attorney for the Town of Ulysses has represented to this Board
that the real estate title is satisfactory and that the property can be transferred to the Town
by road dedication from William Auble to the Town ; and
WHEREAS , the attorney for the Town has reviewed the legal documents needed to
transfer said title inclusive of map and description for the proposed dedication and is
satisfied as to their accuracy; and
WHEREAS , the Board issued a negative declaration is it ' s SEQR review of the proposed
dedication of the existing improved roads ; and
WHEREAS , the Town Board has reviewed the proposed road dedication and finds same
in public interest;
NOW THEREFORE IT IS HEREBY RESOLVED , the Ulysses Town Board hereby
accepts said road as referenced and authorizes the Town Supervisor to sign all documents
connected therewith to transfer title to the town; and
FURTHER RESOLVES , to authorize the Town Highway Superintendent to take all
action to place same on the Town highway map and notify all parties as required by law
and to maintain and repair as needed said road as a public way of the TOWN OF
ULYSSES ; and
FURTHER RESOLVED , that the attorney for the Town is directed to file all title
documents, when in his possession, inclusive of deed with the Tompkins County Clerk
and inform the Highway Superintendent and Town Supervisor upon filing thereof and
transfer of title.
FURTHER RESOLVED , that the northeasterly road portion is hereby named
Meadowview Drive and the southeasterly portion is hereby named Parkside Drive.
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Mr. Ellis wanted it on record that the Town needs to be careful, if the Town were doing a
bigger road than this road that has more difficult conditions than this road, Mr. Ellis
would be very concerned not to have professional engineers involved who become along
with the Town responsible for problems . In the case of this road all of the responsibility
is with the Town and no one else .
Mr. Austic stated that he did not think an engineer would take on the responsibility.
Mr. Ellis stated that they stamp it and they have professional liability insurance .
Mr. Ellis went on to state that for the rest of it he is disappointed with the Town Board
and is not happy to be part of this action and could have been done better. If there had
been an action by the Town Board instead of a memorandum it would have changed the
whole natureiof the proceeding and would have been a SEQR review and public input
and all kinds 'things .
Mr. Austic stated that just because there would have been a motion for a memorandum of
understanding not a legal action to take the road.
Attorney for the Town Bruce Wilson stated that a motion for a memorandum of
understanding is not a legal contract .
Mr. Ellis is saying in lieu of a motion for a memorandum of understanding there could
have been a motion of the Board saying that the Board supports this action and so forth,
at least then it would be an act of the body and therefore have SEQR.
Mr. Wilson said that might not have been the case but you may have a condition to do
SEQR review at the construction stage.
Mr. Ellis does not understand that and probably will not vote against it because how do
you vote against providing public access to people already living on a road .
Mr. Meeker stated that anyone can offer to dedicate something to the Town, it does not
necessarily mean the Town has to except the dedication, so if you don ' t want it just say
no .
Mr. Ellis states that they could say no but in that case what we would be doing is denying
people excess . .
Mr. Wilson stated that if the Town did not take the road the developer would be
responsible to maintain the road but the school buses would not go down the private road .
Mr. Austic asked if there was any further discussion and called for a vote .
Ms . Marino labstained because she felt she did not have time to fully review all the
documents and was not on the Board and so involved at all in the early procedures .
Mr. Austic aye
Mr. Scott aye
Mr. Weatherby aye
Ms . Marino abstained
Mr. Ellis aye
Adopted.
Mr. Meeker stated that before the Board moves on he would like to straighten something
out especially to the two new Board members . Mr. Meeker stated that if the Board does
not think sometime that he is competent enough to do or build a highway he is going to
tell you that he will bet you money within a matter of ten minutes he can get an engineer
from Tompkins County Highway up here if he had a problem or don ' t understand
something. That is the same procedure that the County does, if they are civil engineers
and doesn ' t feel adequate they would go somewhere else . Mr. Meeker stated that if he
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something. That is the same procedure that the County does, if they are civil engineers
and doesn ' t feel adequate they would go somewhere else. Mr. Meeker stated that if he
felt that there was a problem with him looking at the base or discussing the drainage or
getting that road so it will work he would go to another engineer and if he did feel that he
was competent than Mr. Meeker would come to the Town Board and say we should hire
an engineer. Mr. Meeker states that he does have an option that he has when he has a
question in his mind, but a simple project such as this road and as many years as he has
been doing and as much highway building as he has seen, he has been to Cornell Local
Roads Program for twenty plus years and he states that he knows how to build a road.
OTHER
Audit
Mr. Austic stated that in reference to an audit it makes no difference to him if the Board
wants to do an audit but his point is to spend 3 to 5 per cent of the tax money that is being
taken in this year to do that if he can get it done for free.
Mr. Ellis stated that he felt Mr. Scheon pointed out a SMART audit that is something
done by the State and is shorter version.
Ms . Marino was concerned about the time it would take to get a State audit .
Mrs . Georgia has been through both State audits and independent audits and because the
records are up-to-date neither one takes that much time.
Mr. Weatherby stated that the Board has a responsibility to the taxpayers not to spend
unnecessarily and if you can get an audit free why not . Mr. Scott agrees .
Mr. Austic can ask the State about a Smart Audit .
Ms . Marino stated that she would like to see an independent _audit and see the Town
begin the assessment on the assets that Mr. Scheon was talking about.
Mr. Austic stated that Mr. Scheon is not going to get into the assessment of the assets for
that $ 7000.
Mr. Wilson stated he stated it would be procedure.
Ms . Marino understood for the cost of $ 7000 he would do a full GAAP audit, which
included that.
Mr. Coogan corrected her and stated that what Mr. Scheon stated was that they would
guide the Town through the assessment of assets .
Mr. Austic stated that he knows the GASBY, it is four years away from the Town of
Ulysses at this point and he has already figured about getting a consultant to come in and
• figure out the value of roads, etc . and since that time everyone balked and in the
meantime the State has changed their thoughts and will let the Towns start at this point
and go from there, because no one could figure out how to establish what a road culvert
crossing value would be today. So if you start now and go ahead you know what is here,
we know what the water district costs, we know what the highway spent fixing the roads
so we could start there at 2004 and not go all the way back.
Ms. Marino stated that she does not advocate going all the way back .
Mr. Austic stated that could be done with out anybody ' s help .
Ms . Marino asked if that was going to be done.
Mr. Austic said he could do that but he does not think the auditors would do that, they are
going to ask what it is worth and put it on a piece of paper.
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Mr. Ellis stated that he feels that if the Town goes with Mr. Scheon ' s firm it will be the
least burden Ito deal with the audit and it also from the point of public responsibly
probably the thing that most satisfies the public, which cost $ 7000 . The alternative is
have the State come in and do it for free, if the simple State free audit is as good as it
might be then with it comes the burden to tell the State what the Town wants it to do,
which is kind of like the Agreement of Service.
Mr. Austic states than he will have to find out what a SMART audit is .
Ms . Marino questioned the Town Law on annual Town Board audits due within 60days
of the close of the year.
Mr. Ellis pointed out that the Town has to go ahead and audit in accordance with the law
and since the Town can not get an accountant to do it in accordance to law, because they
do it afterwards and that is what Mr. Scheon was explaining. That the Town Board
would have to go ahead and do their procedure, the accountants procedure is not going to
replace the Board ' s procedure because the Town has to satisfy the law and than after that
the accountants could do there thing and finish within five months or so .
Ms. Marino stated then it is the law that untrained people have to certify that the books
are in order. She feels that is not how she is reading the law .
Mr. Wilson stated that the Town by stature has to do their part within the 60 days and
when you do! an external audit they go through the books in their own ways and they
cannot do that until the books are closed.
Mrs . Georgia, stated that it is the Town Board ' s responsibility to know the ins and outs of
all the departments .
Mr. Austic can provide a form from the State, a checklist of what the Board is to review
at the annual audit.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
No public comments were heard .
CORRESPONDENCE
Previously discussed .
ADDITIONAL ITEMS
Mr. Austic stated that in the past the Town Board has approved gift certificates for the
full and part time employees , Zoning Board and Planning Board members, and Town
Historian.
Ms. Marino moved, seconded by Mr. Ellis the following :
BE IT RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses approves the gift
certificates at the same amount as last years .
Mr. Austic aye
Mr. Scott aye
Mr. Weatherby aye
Ms . Marino aye
Mr. Ellis aye
Adopted .
ADJOURNMENT
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ADJOURNMENT
Hearing no further business Mr. Scott moved to adjourn, seconded by Mr. Weatherby.
Unanimously approved and meeting adjourned 10 : 35 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Marsha L. Georgia
Ulysses Town Clerk
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