HomeMy WebLinkAbout2004-02-10 - TB TOWN OF ULYSSES
REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING
FEBRUARY 10,2004
PRESENT : Supervisor Doug Austic , Town Councilpeople Lee Scott, Robert Weatherby;
Roxanne Marino and Don Ellis ; Town Clerk Marsha Georgia; Highway Superintendent
James Meeker and Code Enforcement Officer Alex Rachun.
Others Present : Richard Coogan, Chairman Planning Board, Steve Ferrari of the
Trumansburg Free Press and Michele Reaves of the Ithaca Journal .
Supervisor Austic called the meeting to order at 7 : 30 pm, and lead those assembled in the
Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Mr. Austic asked if everyone had a chance to read the minutes and if there were any
comments . Ms. Marino stated that she has lots of editorial stuff
January 13 , 2004 - Regular Town Board Meeting
Page 5 — Water District Report — change Forman to foreman
Page 5 — PWC Regulation — Ms. Marino said she could send the Clerk the her corrections
— the change is to strike out what Mr. Austic had stated about her attending the meeting -
Ms. Marino believes this was not so that it was about him attending the meeting.
Page 9. under the appointments — Joint Youth Commission Liaison — she feels that she
agreed to this appointment
Ms . Marino asked if she should give the Clerk left out words and such. Mr. Austic stated
that yes, as long it does not change the contents .
Page 14 — she would rather see the whole thing about the Zoning Ordinance reflect a little
more of the discussion — a couple of things in the argument that are not there.
After a long discussion of the changes Ms. Marino would like to see in the minutes, they
were tabled until the next meeting. Mrs . Georgia asked for her notes so she could make
changes . Ms . Marino stated she would email them to her.
January 17, 2004 - Special Town Board Meeting
Ms. Marino made the following changes and comments :
3rd paragraph 1st page — removes in lieu of absence — replace with the absence.
2nd paragraph 1st page — insert hiring and duties of before Deputy Supervisor
2nd page — will give these changes to Ms . Georgia.
January 26, 2004 - Special Town Board Meeting
Mr. Ellis would like the minutes to reflect that at one point Mr. Brown was offering to
use wood on the front part of the barn and so fourth and he feels that statement is a
significant statement. Mr. Ellis knows that the Planning Board is going to have another
look at things . Mr. Scott stated that he also indicated that it would be one side of the
barn. Ms . Marino stated that she understood that he had said the sides facing the road .
Mr. Austic agreed that he had said the side facing the road. Mr. Scott stated that this is a
discussion for the Planning Board. Mr. Brown will look into this wood siding. Ms.
Marino wants added into the minutes her statement that she is very much in favor of this
project but she wanted to express the concern about the metal siding not meeting the
Comprehensive Plan, in preserving the essential character structure in the neighborhood
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and that she has heard concerns about PDD ' s being used as sin zoning and that the
Town could be sued for that.
Mr. Austic stated that the January 13 , 2004 Regular Town Board Meeting would be
tabled and asked for a resolution to adopt the January 17 , 2004 and January 26, 2004
Special Town Board Meetings with the foregoing changes . Mr. Ellis moved seconded by
Ms . Marino the following :
BE IT RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses approves the minutes
of the Special Town Board Meetings of January 17 and 26, 2004 as amended.
Mr. Austic aye
Mr. Scott aye
Mr. Weatherby aye
Ms . Marino aye
Mr. Ellis aye
Adopted.
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS
Mr. Weatherby moved seconded by Mr. Scott the following :
BE IT RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses approves the
previously examined vouchers #23 through #77 in the amount of $ 55 , 517 . 15 .
Mr. Austic aye
Mr. Scott aye
Mr. Weatherby aye
Ms . Marino aye
Mr. Ellis aye
Adopted.
Mr. Scott asked about the voucher tabled at the January meeting for $900 for dues for
Cayuga Lake Watershed. Mr. Austic had discussed this with Mr. Kennedy and he feels
that it is a worthwhile membership . Mr. Ellis would have liked to discuss this directly
with George Kennedy but he is out of Town now . Mr. Scott moved, seconded by Mr.
Ellis the following :
BE IT RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses approves the voucher
tabled at January' s meeting and included it in this payment as voucher #78 in the amount
of $900 for dues to Cayuga Lake Watershed .
Mr. Austic aye
Mr. Scott aye
Mr. Weatherby aye
Ms. Marino aye
Mr. Ellis aye
Adopted.
REPORTS OF REPRESENTATIVES
Tompkins County Representative Peter Penniman — absent:.
Trumansburg Fire Department — no representative.
Planning Board Report, Chairman Richard Coogan reported that the Planning Board
would address Site Plan Review for Flo-Tech on Wednesday.
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Mr. Coogan stated that after a discussion of his acceptance of Deputy Supervisor position
he is willing to step down, as Chair of the Planning Board and Rod Porter is willing to
step in as Chair if that would please the Board. Mr. Austic suggested getting a formal
recommendation from the Planning Board.
Mr. Ellis asked if Planning Board members were each appointed by the Board or is that a
• Superintendents appointment. Mr. Austic stated that the Board appoints them each for
seven years .
The letters were discussed from interested applicants for the Planning Board . Two have
been received and others maybe forth coming and anyone interested should be
encouraged to have them in before the March meeting.
Others
Representative to Joint Youth Committee Michel Vonderweidt - Mr. Vonderweidt
introduced himself and stated that he is also the representative to the Recreation
Partnership in Ithaca. Mr. Vonderweidt stated that the Recreation Partnership is at a
cross roads this year losing the State funding, County funding, and expenses up by
$53 , 000 for facility fees that the City of Ithaca has decided to impose on the partnership.
The Recreation Partnership feels that it is a very good idea to invite all the officials from
all the member communities to come down to the annual meeting on March 4th. This
will give everyone a chance to ask questions as to the future of the Recreation
Partnership . Mr. Vonderweidt handed out invitations . He would like to see two or three
people from Ulysses because there will be some tough questions asked like can we afford
it, the number of kids being served, and cost of programs .
Mr. Ellis asked for a brief description of the Recreation Partnership .
Mr. Vonderweidt explained that this was formed by all of the municipalities in the
County except for Lansing. The programming is currently only offered by the Ithaca
Youth Bureau and most of it is held in Stewart Park or Buttermilk Park. It is to
complement what is offered locally. Like certain programs you could not offer locally
because it is two kids from Trumansburg, two youth from Groton, two from another
community. You cannot run a program for two youths , but by grouping them you have a
program with a dozen or so youths . These are programs all year round. It has everything
for example : drama, Cass Park sailing and swimming, a lot of outdoor education
programs year round.
Mr. Austic stated that the Town is paying around $ 6500 a year for membership .
Mr. Vonderweidt stated there are approximately 300 kids participating roughly 50% from
the Ithaca City School district and 50% from the Trumansburg School district
TOWN REPORTS
Highway Superintendent James Meeker reported that for the month his crew plowed
and salted as needed, worked everyday since the weekend of January 3rd, have made
repairs as needed, when not plowing or pushing back snow they are overhauling the
trucks . The speed limit request for Searsburg road has been sent to NYS DOT .
Mr. Meeker is looking into participating in "OLD TIRE PICKUP" this year. The Soil &
Conservation will do the advertising and fliers and they will also handle the sorting of the
tires . They will pay the Town of Ulysses $ . 25 per tire to haul them away and will charge
$ 1 to leave the tire . The $ . 25 will handle the fuel costs for the Town. It is more a public
service. The date has not been set.
Mr. Scott moved, seconded by Mr. Weatherby the following :
BE IT RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses approves that Highway
Superintendent James Meeker work with Soil & Conversation to set up a day for a "tire
collection day".
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Mr. Austic aye
Mr. Scott aye
Mr. Weatherby aye
Ms. Marino aye
Mr. Ellis aye
Adopted.
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Mr. Austic had discussed with Mr. Meeker a new treatment for salt that is suppose to
make salt work better on the roads when the temperature is 10° below or more. This
additive would increase the salt price by another $ 10 per ton. Mr. Meeker may try some
of this to see how it works next year.
Code Enforcement Officer Alex Rachun reported that two permits were issued for
additions and the Zoning Board of Appeals heard one area variance because a garage
exceeds 20 ' in height.
Town Clerk Marsha L. Georgia reported that $ 1 , 164. 30 was collected in clerk fees for
the month of January of that $ 732 was turned over to the Supervisor along with her
monthly report. To date the total collected in taxes is $2,317 ,264. The Town' s levy has
been totally paid to the Supervisor, a total of $7045 was paid to the County for the service
charges on installment payments which 207 property owners took advantage of and a
payment on the 2004 Tax Warrant of $ 1 , 550,000 to the County was made.
Board Members and Committees
Councilman Ellis reported he had met with the Trumansburg Fire Chief Jack Fulton and
was very impressed as always, that he runs a great operation. When Mr. Ellis was
visiting the fire hall training was going on and it was really an impressive group of people
of all sorts and different ages . He cannot say enough good about that fire department..
Mr. Ellis stated that he has been told respectively that all the fire trucks are 4-wheel drive
vehicles and that is not so — there is only one tanker truck that is 4-wheel drive. One of
the concerns brought up by the Chief and brought up in previous meetings are the long
driveways . The Chief stated that unless it is or has been a dry spell the trucks couldn 't go
down these driveways . Mr. Ellis stated that what came up in a meeting discussing flag
lots is there should be a good standard for those driveways . Mr. Ellis feels this is a good
thing to think about. If a driveway is longer than a certain distance there should be
different standards than a regular driveway.
Mr. Rachun explained about the process when getting a building permit. Ms . Marino
asked if maybe it wouldn ' t be a good idea to get from the fire department what they
would recommend as a driveway to make it more accessible for the trucks and give this
to property owners .
Mr. Austic stated that you could not require them to do it. Ms . Marino said maybe it
would just be a helpful thing if Alex had it when people come for building permits.
Mr. Coogan stated that he would inquire as to how other Towns are handling this same
problem .
Mr. Ellis went on to state that the big thing in the Fire Department is the administrative
adjustments of having full time salaried people for the ambulance and EMT .
Supervisor Austic asked if everyone got a copy of the operating statement for this month
and asked if anyone had any questions.
No questions heard.
OLD BUSINESS
Water District #3 Progress Report
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2/ 10/2004
Mr. Austic reported that last week the water line was chlorinated from our water pump to
the Town of Ithaca line. Bolton Point requested that this be done. Also Verizon has
hooked up two lines that are necessary to run the pumps . Now we are waiting for the
weather to improve to chlorinate the rest of the line.
PWC Regulations Discussion
Mr. Austic talked with the Supervisor of the Town of Ithaca and they have a couple of
changes that they want to change or add to the Lansing Law . One of them is in the fourth
whereas it states " 100 to 250 feet for a 10 mile an hour zone". They want to change that
to 500 feet there and in Section 5 . Also take out the i , ii ,iii under Section 5 .
The Town of Ithaca will make those changes and schedule a Public Hearing in March.
The Town of Ulysses can do the same thing. It turns out that most of the 3000 signatures
on the petition received are not residents of the Ulysses, only about 100 of them .
Ms. Marino asked about Section 9 and Mary Shelley ' s comments . Mr. Austic stated that
she would be at the hearing not to change it at this time .
It was the general consensus to put this out for public comments .
Mr. Coogan reviewed the meetings that are scheduled for February and March as follows :
Public Informational Meetings on Draft Zoning Ordinance
February 24, 2004 at 7 PM in the High School Cafeteria
March 4th, 2004 at 7 : 30 PM at the Francis Racker Center, Wilkins Road
3rd meeting not set as yet.
The Town Board discussed how to publicize the meetings and decided to advertise in
both the Ithaca Journal and the Free Press . Mr. Coogan reported that January 5th Draft
Zoning Ordinance, map and chart are now posted on the Town ' s website.
Hazard Mitigation Public Input
February 25th, 2004 at Jacksonville Community Church 7 : 15 PM
March 3rd, 2004 at Francis Racker Center, Wilkins Road
Recreation Partnership
March 4th at Human Services Building
Regular Town Board
March 9th, 2004 Town Hall
Planning Board Meeting - Public Hearing Flo-Tech
March 11th, 7 PM Town Hall
Joint Town Board II Planning Board - Ron Mead Ag and Markets Representative
March 17th, 2004 at 7 PM at Town Hall
Considering the above schedule the Public Hearing for the PWC was set for March 30,
2004 at 7 : 00 PM to be held at the Town Hall.
Other
Mr. Austic reported on the Village Board SEQR process for the Auble Hearing and that
they voted to declare a negative declaration. The Village has scheduled a meeting to vote
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on the annexation. If they adopt the annexation the Village and Town will have to file
Orders of Acceptance with the County Clerk and than have a Special Election allowing
the registered voters within the annexed property to vote.
NEW BUSINESS
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Blanding Electric Inc. Payment Request
Supervisor Austic received the payment request and also the recommendation from the
engineers for the first payment . Mr. Austic moved, seconded by Mr. Weatherby the
following:
WHEREAS, the Town of Ulysses has received the certified Second Submission for work
completed through January 20, 2004 Contract No . 1B — Electrical Construction DWSRF
Project No . 16097 and
WHEREAS, the total amount of work done to date is $ 17 ,440 .00 . No monies are being
requested for stored materials under this payment and,
WHEREAS, a retainage of five percent (5 %) of the value of work done to date, totaling
$ 872 . 00, has been withheld from the payment per the Contract Specifications and
WHEREAS, the total amount due the contractor for the second payment is $ 15 ,228 . 00
and,
WHEREAS, Barton & Loguidice, after review, authorize the Town Board of the Town
of Ulysses to make the second payment to Blanding Electric , Inc . in the amount of
$ 15 ,228 . 00 for work completed for the period ending January 20, 2004 .
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses
authorizes Supervisor Austic to issue a check to Blanding Electric , Inc . in the amount of
$ 15 ,228 . 00 for the second payment for Town of Ulysses Water District No . # 3 Water
System Improvements .
Mr. Austic aye
Mr. Scott aye
Mr. Weatherby aye
Ms . Marino aye
Mr. Ellis aye .
Adopted.
Zoning Ordinance
Mr. Austic announced the meeting with Ron Mead of NYS Ag; and Markets for March
17 , 2004 at the Town Hall .
Mr. Austic asked Mr. Coogan about the "Bus Trip" and he stated that the Planning Board
was going to discuss the particulars about taking a tour of the Town.
Mr. Coogan asked about the format that would be used for the Zoning Informational
Meetings? Mr. Austic stated that George Frantz did the presentation at one and he did
the other one . If Mr. Frantz were available that would be a good idea. We could open it
up for discussion and/or questions and the Board could answer that.
Mr. Frantz will be asked to provide a written presentation and also to email it prior to the
meeting to the Board Members . This presentation will be made available as a handout at
the meeting. .
The arrangements will be made so that both the Planning Board and the Town Board will
be seated in front of the residents attending the informational meeting.
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Disaster Mitigation Joint Meetings
The meetings for public input have been set — previously stated. Ms. Marino asked for
some explanation of the plan.
Mr. Austic outlined the draft intermunicipal plan that was drafted by The Thomas Group
— Tetra-Tech Company for Tompkins County Planning Board.
Only one copy of the draft plan was received and that is in the Conference room where it
is available for inspection. It is also on the Tompkins County web page and at the
libraries .
Ms. Marino suggested that when we do advertising for the meetings we make that
information available.
When this was started the Village and School were both approached to attend the County
meetings and they declined. At this time Mr. Austic feels they need to be involved with
the local meetings. This plan needs to be in place or no one within the town will be able
to apply for Federal FEMA monies after a disaster.
Tompkins County Budget Meeting Vote
Tompkins County has provided a list of places to consider for intermunicipal cost
savings . Mr. Austic reviewed the list, which includes the following categories :
• Sheriff/Police
• Highway Issues (snow removal, town/county roads)
• Youth
• Planning (aquifer study, circuit rider, GIS support)
• Unified Court
• Libraries
• Environmental Health
• Elections
• Community college
• Fire Services
• Human Services
• Cooperation between Police (Cornell, IC and Ithaca City etc)
• Public Transportation
• Affordable Housing
• Health Insurance
• Commercial Development
• Tax Collection
After a discussion of the different areas it was a general consensus of the Town Board
that at the meeting to be held on March 1st, 2004 at the County the following three areas
may warrant consideration :
• Highway Issues
• Health Insurance
• Youth
There was a discussion about forming a group to discuss combining the efforts of the
Town, Village and School and forming a Ulysses Youth Service and provide more
services locally. This may be something in the future if the Recreation Partnership
becomes too costly. Ms . Marino has a letter from an interested person and she also
would be interested in maybe forming a committee when the time presents itself
Stormwater Progress
Mr. Austic felt that the Stormwater meetings could be tabled because we have more time
to set up what is needed to fulfill the Notice of Intent .
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Mr. Coogan explained briefly what he was doing as to what is defined in the Notice of
Intent and the time frame .
Ms . Marino is interested in forming a committee . Mr. Austic stated to go ahead, get
together with Mr. Coogan and maybe get a couple of other people. Ms . Marino has a
name of a person that has voiced interest.
Deputy Supervisor Position Appointment
Supervisor Austic announced that he has appointed Richard Coogan as his Deputy
Supervisor. Mr. Austic reported that he received five applications and he reviewed and
interviewed all of them . Mr. Coogan was the most qualified for the position because of
what he is doing at this point.
Other New Business
Ms. Marino suggested having a one question handout that people could fill out when they
come to the Zoning Informational Meetings or when they pick up a draft plan or even
having it available on the Town Web Page that just says "what in your view is the
purpose of the Agricultural Zone" . Then these would be compiled and would give the
Board some sense as to where the people that are participating are coming from
Mr. Ellis stated that the thing you would be asking to poll is just that one part of the
zoning, the part establishing the agricultural district.
Ms . Marino stated yes because that is the one that there is the most difficulty in coming to
any sort of consensus about. She thought that it could be a piece of information that
could be potentially helpful and would be a good time to ask this when we are having the
informational meetings . The information could also be used when reviewing the
Comprehensive Plan in 2/3 years .
Mr. Ellis stated that there are at least a couple of reasons to ask those kinds of questions ;
one is to really chase a point where there is a piece of information that you really want to
know but the other one is that it is just part making a meeting worthwhile when people
get a hand out, sort of mind jogging questions so they start to get into thinking what' s
going on.
Mr. Austic stated that however the original intent was to preserve agricultural land.
During discussion open space came up and than it got into discussions of view and those
kinds of things .
Ms . Marino stated, one scenario, as she has heard a lot of people say is, including some
farmers, is that farming may not go on because they do not have the next generation that
wants to do it and so it may not be here . Ms . Marino dose not want that nor do most, but
should that happen we should be thinking in terms of how we try to plan and how the
land is used, if there is anything as a Town that we can do to direct things to grow in a
way that we view the Town wants according to the Comprehensive Plan and what people
think at these meetings . In that sense of "what do you view as important" in the purpose
of this ordinance, asking a question like that it seems to her would be helpful .
Mr. Austic stated he was looking through the Town Budget and he purposes that the
Town set aside $50 to $75 thousand in a reserve account to purchase development rights
in the future. The Town has the money to do that and not to say it would happen today or
tomorrow.
Mr. Ellis stated that he thinks that it is one of those kinds of things where right from the
start it is really good to see what other kinds of support for that, not so much to save the
money but to be careful not to have the Town fund something, themselves but people
come in. The leadership issue is a real big thing.
Ms . Marino thought that the Town should consider it, but she feels like she would like to
think about it some more before she just said yes. Something to consider in the next 2 to
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3 years, really look at this stuff, start to plan, talk to the people involved, there are not
that many of these large farmers so why don' t we talk to them.
Mr. Austic said that they come to meetings and they start talking, they get a little angry
and then everyone says we don' t need to listen to these people, he has heard it several
times, several meetings .
Ms . Marino said than lets try again with a different mechanism, we ' ve got to get the
zoning ordinance revision through first thing through but she is saying to work further on
this over the next 2 to 3 years .
Mr. Scott stated there is more acreage controlled that is not controlled by farmers and
very few of these people have been approached and they should be approached more than
the farmers .
Ms . Marino agreed with that. We are doing something based on worrying about the
farmers and I think we should worry about farmers but we should also worry about what
the plan is for the people that do not want to farm .
Mr. Austic stated that what you can not do — you can ' t — law will say you can ' t tell a guy
the he cannot use his land because it is open space or a view, unless you pay him for it .
Ms. Marino said yes she understands that they would have to be compensated for that,
but you can say that you cannot put twenty homes in a row , all lined up .
Mr. Austic said no the Town is not saying that — they are saying every 500 ' is not twenty
houses in a row . Mr. Austic went on to state that what is failing to be seen, in his
opinion, things are not happening, things are not going the way a lot of people are
thinking they are, they might but they are not.
Mr. Austic stated that one of the first steps is to define "open space" .
Mr. Ellis stated that Mr. Austic ' s suggestion of the setting aside $ 50/$75 for development
purchases is a great one and should be studied, brought out to the public so it brings
enthusiasm and other money because there are folks that own large pieces of land that he
has talked with who really are looking to how they can sort of plug into that.
Mr. Austic stated that than there are people that will never sell their land — the things that
people think may happen — may never happen — to make a plan to avoid all that and make
it real restrictive upon someone else becomes really tough.
Ms . Marino said than if she makes a question would Mr. Austic take a look at it?
Mr. Austic stated that he would.
Hearing no further business Mr. Weatherby moved for adjournment, seconded by Mr.
Scott. Unanimously approved.
Meeting adjourned at 9 : 50 PM
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1 Marsha L. Georgia L..
Ulysses Town Clerk
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