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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB Minutes 1989-03-07 ' FILED TOWN OF ITHACA Date LUZ9 Clerk •� TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD MARCH 7 , 1989 The Town of Ithaca Planning Board met in regular session on Tuesday , March 7 , 1989 , in Town Hall , 126 East Seneca Street , Ithaca , New York , at 7 : 00 p . m . PRESENT : Chairman Montgomery May , Carolyn Grigorov , Robert Miller , Robert Kenerson , William Lesser , Virginia Langhans , John C . Barney ( Town Attorney ) , Susan C . Beeners ( Town Planner ) , George R . Frantz ( Assistant Town Planner ) , ALSO PRESENT : Peter Trowbridge , Paul Mazzarella , Gene Ball , Ray Small , David Klein , E . Austen , Jill Freidmutter , John Whitcomb , Myrtle Whitcomb , C . Bowers , Bruce Rich , Ann L . Clarke , David A . McArdle , Steven R . Blust , Kinga Gergely , Edward A . Mazza Esq . , David M . Axenfeld , Rosalind Grippi , Salvatore Grippi , Les Reizes , Krys Cail , Ben Boynton , David Gluck . Chairman May declared the meeting duly opened at 7 : 00 p . m . and accepted for the record the Clerk ' s Affidavit of Posting and Publication of the Notice of Public Hearings in Town Hall and the Ithaca Journal on February 27 , 1989 , and March 2 , 1989 , respectively , together with the Clerk ' s Affidavit of Service by Mail of said Notice upon the various neighbors , of each of the properties under discussion , as appropriate , upon both the Clerk and the Building Commissioner of the City of Ithaca , upon the Clerk of the Town of Ulysses , upon the Tompkins County Commissioner of Planning , and upon the applicants and / or agents , as appropriate , on March 1 , 1989 . Chairman May read the Fire Exit Regulations to those assembled , as required by the New York State Department of State , Office of Fire Prevention and Control . NON- AGENDA ITEM : Andrew Frost distributed to each of the members of the Board a copy of his February 1989 Report of Building / Zoning Activities . PRESENTATION OF WEST HILL MASTER PLAN , PREPARED FOR THE CITY OF ITHACA BY PETER TROWBRIDGE , Chairman May opened the discussion on the above -noted matter at 7 : 00 p . m . and read aloud from the Agenda as noted above . Mr . Paul Mazzarella , Deputy Director of Planning and Development for the City of Ithaca , approached the Board and appended a large map of the West Hill Master Plan to the bulletin board . • Mr . Mazzarella stated that many of the issues in the Master Plan have been issues where there needs to be a high level of coordination between the City and the Town . Pointing to the map , Mr . Mazzarella Y Planning Board - 2 - March 7 , 1989 indicated the West Hill portion of the City from the Octopus , west , to the boundary with the Town of Ithaca . Mr . Mazzarella said that much of the concern that the City had in the need for a Master Plan resulted from numerous subdivision proposals received last summer , adding that currently there are five proposed major subdivisions in the West Hill area that are being considered . Mr . Mazzarella noted that for many years the City has not had , virtually , any subdivision activity on West Hill , commenting that the five subdivisions range from 12 lots to 77 lots . Mr . Mazzarella noted that the major issues dealt with in the City were the design of a street system that made sense , and coordination of all the new projects , and along with that , how the utilities would work , adding , that led directly to some of the concerns that the City began to have with development in the Town , because with the traffic circulation there are many interconnections between the City and the Town that exist , or could potentially exist in the future . Mr . Mazzarella said that it particularly became a very sensitive issue for the City because of all the undeveloped and potentially developable land that lies just outside the City boundary in the Town of Ithaca , adding , at that point , the City started working with Peter Trowbridge , and Town Planner Susan Beeners , to discover what activities were going on in the Town , and the Town ' s plans . Continuing , Mr . Mazzarella stated that the major issues examined were the roads , and the road network , which is shared with the Town , noting , the City was very concerned about how that road network works , • and particularly , the potential effects of through traffic on West Hill neighborhoods . Mr . Mazzarella said that the second item of concern was the utilities , noting that the City and the Town share a public utility system , which , at the present time , involves the water supply system , the sanitary sewer system , and potentially involves other services that may be provided in the future - fire is a good example of something that has been recently negotiated in a much different way than previously , and that is a concern , as well . Mr . Mazzarella said that in conservation areas the City became aware that the City of Ithaca land is at the bottom of the drainage area , which is very large indeed , and the effects of development in the Town of Ithaca are going to be profound on the drainageways that pass through the City , so various conservation measures have been reviewed that could be employed . Mr . Mazzarella stated that the last issue was parks and pedestrian areas , commenting , there has always been a tradition in the Ithaca area of a sharing of parks , and noted that this has always been encouraged between the various municipalities . Mr . Mazzarella stated that the above constituted a brief overview of what has been done todate , noting that the plan , at this point , is conceptual in nature , and adding that the plan has been shown to various boards in the City of Ithaca . Mr . Mazzarella stated that he has given several presentations to the West Hill Neighborhood to solicit their input , adding that he is asking the Town ' s input , as well . Mr . Mazzarella said that when all the comments are received , the plan would be refined further , then look to the City of Ithaca to • formally adopt the plan , and implement it through the various tools that are available the official map , Zoning Ordinance , and the Subdivision Regulations . Mr . Mazzarella stated that , hopefully , one Planning Board - 3 - March 7 , 1989 . of the things that would come out of this would be a greater understanding between the City and the Town about the common needs and the things that need to be done in the future to meet those needs . At this time , Mr . Mazzarella turned the discussion over to Peter Trowbridge . Mr . Trowbridge , indicating on the map , pointed out the City of Ithaca study limits , noting that the " yellow " area is the watershed that affects the City project area itself . Mr . Trowbridge noted that anything that happens up in " this " area , the Rose Hill project for instance , and Perry Farm to a lesser degree , do have an impact on the City , because in a basin soil bowl like the City of Ithaca it is not only hydrologic , but it is utilities and traffic , as everything moves like gravity moves ; from high to low . Mr . Trowbridge said that , consequently , major corridors like Route 79 , Route 96 , and Route 89 had to be looked at , along with fire access to West Hill , adding , this had to be done in a fairly comprehensive way , as well as parks and pedestrian networks . Mr . Trowbridge [ indicating on map ] pointed out Cliff Street , Hector Street as it goes around the bend and moves out of the City limits , Elm Street , and Floral Avenue . At this point , Mr . Trowbridge referred to the PRELIMINARY PROGRAM FOR WEST HILL MASTER PLAN , which is attached hereto as Exhibit 1 . Continuing , Mr . Trowbridge said that Elm Street was going to continue to be a major connection from the Town to the City , perhaps looking at a cul de sac off Hook Place , but maybe not considering it as a major through road because of the condition of Hook Place , Mr . Trowbridge said that the City has been looking , for the last thirty years , at the possibility of a south bridge along the Town / City limits that would ultimately connect to Route 13 on the old Elmira Road , adding , the intent would be to connect between Haller and West Haven Roads , connect to West Haven Road or just above West Haven , Mr . Trowbridge said that there needs to be some kind of coordinated effort between the Town / City , if this is a reasonable concept to pursue . Mr . Trowbridge stated that there is still quite a bit of consistent traffic pattern , no matter what happens with Route 96 . Mr . Trowbridge said that there are some significant issues in terms of the Town collector / City collector road . Mr . Trowbridge said that , concerning conservation , the objectives were to preserve major drainageways and control run - off from new development , commenting that the Town is doing an incredible job in terms of surface water detention . Mr . Trowbridge noted that while the peak discharge on all of the drainageways is being adequately controlled in the Town , the total volume of water is going to increase , adding that the concern within the City limits is maintaining a conservation corridor and adequate vegetation cover so it does not get into additional volumes of water that create erosion problems in the City , noting , working back in the Town , perhaps some of those corridors need to be considered as • conservation overlays for an area that starts at the top of West Hill and works its way down through the Town into the City . Again , Mr . Trowbridge stated that the Town is doing a very good job in looking at Planning Board - 4 - March 7 , 1989 • those kinds of surface water conditions . Mr . Trowbridge offered that it was not being suggested that these become publicly owned , it is a conservation overlay , as it is residents ' backyards , and privately owned , but there is some level of maintenance or conservation that would occur within the corridor that would maintain a certain level of water velocity while the volume is increasing . Mr . Trowbridge said that he felt work has to be done , not only pertaining to the free - running water , but storm water as well , since the corridors [ Linderman Creek , Cliff Park Brook , which runs up to the Rose Hill project ] , have a significant amount of flow on it . Mr . Trowbridge noted that there was significant amount of interest in working on a storm water ordinance in the Town , commenting , whatever kind of ordinance exists needs to be coordinated between municipalities with the same kind of performance standards that are required in the Town as in the City . Mr . Trowbridge stated that another critical issue is utilities . Carolyn Grigorov asked Mr . Trowbridge to point out the five proposed developments . Mr . Trowbridge responded that they are [ indicating on map ] almost all in the center , noting that it is like a big doughnut between Hector Street and Warren , Place , with a center space of about 60 acres that is being considered at once , adding , there is one primary development that is picking up about 40 acres in the center . Mr . Trowbridge said that there is some development on Floral Avenue , with 17 open acres additional " here " . • William Lesser mentioned the particular areas of cooperation as being a possible road and a bridge connection on the south end , also conservation connections , and the utility systems , particularly the placement of a water tower . Mr . Trowbridge mentioned the fire house , in that he felt there needs to be a larger discussion about routing that fire truck both to the Town and to the City . Mr . Trowbridge stated that , in the short run , there are some real critical issues in terms of conservation zones that might be established in areas where there are currently no active projects . Mr . Lesser wondered what sort of limitations of use in these areas were being proposed . Mr . Trowbridge noted that the limitations would be not putting structures within a certain amount of distance . Mr . Lesser wondered how the plan accommodated the three alternatives for the Octopus , with Mr . Trowbridge responding that the plan could operate with any one of those schemes , but the one thing that is critical is some kind of connection between the Town , City , and Cass Park . Mr . Trowbridge noted that there is a huge resource that sits at the foot of West Hill , noting , in the B or C schemes there is much interest in having some continued pedestrian connection . Mr . Mazzarella noted that it would be ideal to coordinate , as closely as possible , what has been done in the City on the West Hill Master Plan , and what the Town might do in a future plan for West Hill . Mr . Lesser wondered if there were any considerations for any sort of commercial development within the City part of West Hill , with Mr . Mazzarella answering , no . • At this point , Chairman May stated that the Board appreciated the presentation by Mr . Trowbridge and Mr . Mazzarella , noting that there would certainly be continuing input . Planning Board - 5 - March 7 , 1989 Ms . Beeners stated that it has been enjoyable meeting with the Master Planning group . Ms . Beeners stated that , at the present time , none of the current development proposals really abut any of this area , commenting that the Perry farm is essentially north of Williams Brook . Ms . Beeners noted that anything the staff is doing at the present time , generally , would reflect what has been learned through Peter Trowbridge ' s work . Ms . Beeners offered that any recommendations of anything coming in would certainly acknowledge the work that has been done . Ms . Beeners noted that the Perry proposal and the road system they are proposing essentially is compatible with the notion of having a possible revision of what is mapped on the Town Highway Master Plan , as far as a north / south connection that would make it down from the fire station area to the area of West Hill in the City . Ms . Beeners mentioned that the concept of having pedestrian connections along natural areas is good , but occassionally it might be necessary instead to translate that into a pedestrian connection that is removed for liability purposes , such as a fairly nice sidewalk , but still with that concept in place . Mr . Trowbridge agreed with Ms . Beeners , Chairman May asked if there were any other comments . There being none , Chairman May declared the presentation of the West Hill Master Plan duly closed at 7 : 40 p . m . Susan Beeners , referring to the West Hill Master Plan , wondered • if copies of the documents could be sent to Stuart I . Brown , Consultant for the Comprehensive Plan for the Town of Ithaca . MOTION by Robert Kenerson , seconded by Virginia Langhans : RESOLVED , by the Town of Ithaca Planning Board , that the West Hill Master Plan proposal be sent to Stuart I . Brown , Consultant for the Comprehensive Plan for the Town of Ithaca , for study . There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote . Aye - May , Grigorov , Langhans , Kenerson , Lesser , Miller , Smith . Nay - None . The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously . At this point , Attorney Barney announced that the Supreme Court dismissed the action that was brought against the Town Planning Board several weeks ago by Mr . Monkemeyer , on the grounds , basically , that the action was too late . APPROVAL OF MINUTES - November 1 , 1988 MOTION by Robert Kenerson , seconded by William Lesser : RESOLVED , that the Minutes of the Town of Ithaca Planning Board Meeting of November 1 , 1988 , be and hereby are approved as written . There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote . Planning Board - 6 - March 7 , 1989 • Aye - May , Grigorov , Langhans , Kenerson , Lesser , Miller , Smith . Nay - None . The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously . APPROVAL OF MINUTES - February 21 , 1989 MOTION by Virginia Langhans , seconded by Stephen Smith : RESOLVED , that the Minutes of the Town of Ithaca Planning Board Meeting of February 21 , 1989 , be and hereby are approved as written . There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote . Aye - May , Grigorov , Langhans , Kenerson , Lesser , Miller , Smith . Nay - None . The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously . NON-AGENDA ITEM : Susan Beeners , Town Planner , reported that there was a public information meeting held , regarding the South Hill Trail , on Wednesday , March 1 , 1989 , and the Town Board will be Lead Agency for review under SEAR , on Monday , March 13 , 1989 . Ms . Beeners offered that 60 or 70 persons attended the meeting at NCR , and some of the concerns included deprivation of existing rights where people are using the NYSEG right - of -way for snowmobiles and trailbikes . Ms . Beeners stated that there is a broader need , that being for uses which do not include those two things , which , actually , are also very erosive , and degrading to that environment , commenting that that was one of the main areas of concern . Ms . Beeners noted that there was some discussion on the parking issue , with regard to the timing of Town engineering looking at improvements at the Burns Road intersection , as to whether the current intersection should be raised , or relocating it , such as opposite King Road , adding , that type of work will be sort of timed out with when it is expected to complete the South Hill Trail to Burns Road , commenting that the section from Juniper Drive to Burns Road would essentially be 1990 , into 1991 , and it is expected it would be timely to figure out where additional parking could be provided , if it is necessary . Ms . Beeners remarked , that there is parking available at the present time where the trail comes out into the City , and she did not see any need to recommend any additional parking . Ms . Beeners said that there were a lot of people who attended the meeting from the Pennsylvania Avenue area , where the trail would come out above Therm , Inc . , adding , these people were worried about misuse of the trail , problems they have at the present time with students , and the proximity of the trail to their backyards , commenting that it was her recommendation that , not only is there about a 10 ' - 15 ' grade difference between the railroad bed and the properties , but that simple wire fencing and plantings would take care • of the privacy issue . Ms . Beeners stated that she expected the broadening of the users on the trail , e . g . , getting more families out Planning Board - 7 - March 7 , 1989 there regularly , would help in monitoring and alleviating some of the fears that people might have . Virginia Langhans wondered if a fence would be erected along everyone ' s backyard , with Ms . Beeners answering , no , only where there would appear that someone might take a shortcut . William Lesser asked about the number of people using the trail . Assistant Town Planner , George Frantz , stated that a number of places had been contacted where there were a number of trails like the one in question , and no one has ever counted the users . Mr . Frantz offered that Cayuga County , at the present time , has almost 20 miles of bicycle recreation trails . Ms . Beeners stated that the trail would not get the commuter use on South Hill , but a great number of the abuting property owners go out regularly , perhaps once or twice a day . Ms . Beeners stated that the park rules would require that people clean up after their dogs . Chairman May mentioned the old Game Farm Trail that goes over the old railroad bridge on Judd Falls Road , noting , there seems to be a lot of activity on that trail . Ms . Beeners said that the South Hill. Trail has been accepted into the community , but it does need to have the enforceability that would be available as a Town trail . Ms . Beeners also mentioned the fact that residents wondered if the trail could be limited in width to six feet , rather than being eight feet , commenting , the decrease in width appears to be a bad idea , because from a safety standpoint that whole trail route has a lot of opportunity for being used for emergency and fire protection • vehicles to benefit the watershed , if the City wants to pursue a more aggressive watershed management program . Ms . Beeners offered that the trail would not be as cleared as the East Ithaca trails ; it would not appear as road - like as some people think the Game Farm Trail does , because there would be a lot more sensitivty , and the clearing would be limited to about 10 - 15 feet , allow it to grow in , and keep it just accessible enough for the purposes of management . Discussion of the South Hill Trail concluded at 7 : 58 p . m . PUBLIC HEARING : CONSIDERATION OF SUBDIVISION APPROVAL FOR THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION OF A 2 . 016 ± ACRE PARCEL FROM TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL NO . 6 - 33 - 3 - 2 . 2 , 88 . 73 ± ACRES TOTAL , LOCATED ON ELMIRA ROAD ( N . Y . S . RT . 13 ) APPROXIMATELY 900 FEET SOUTH OF ITS INTERSECTION WITH FIVE MILE DRIVE ( N . Y . S . RT . 13A ) , AND FURTHER , CONSIDERATION OF SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR A PROPOSED 5 , 000 SQ . FT . COMMERCIAL BUILDING , WITH PARKING AND OUTDOOR DISPLAY , FOR CANNON RECREATION AND SPA OF ITHACA , PROPOSED TO BE LOCATED ON SUCH 2 . 016 ± ACRE PARCEL PROPOSED TO BE SUBDIVIDED FROM SAID PARCEL NO . 6 - 33 - 3 - 2 . 2 , LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT . EARLAND AND ROBERT MANCINI , OWNERS ; DAVID AXENFELD , APPLICANT . Chairman May declared the Public Hearing in the above - noted matter duly opened at 8 : 00 p . m . and read aloud from the Notice of Public Hearings as posted and published and as noted above . • Mr . Axenfeld addressed the Board and stated that the proposed site was a prior cornfield used for agricultural use . Mr . Axenfeld said that the proposed structure would be used for the purpose of a Planning Board - 8 - March 7 , 1989 swimming pool business that was established in Ithaca five years ago . Mr . Axenfeld said that he would market both above - ground and in- ground pools at his business . Mr . Axenfeld offered that the business had been located at 361 Elmira Road , Robert Kenerson wondered if any outside displays were planned . Mr . Axenfled stated that there would be an above - ground pool , as well as an in - ground pool on display . Robert Miller asked how far back the building was from the road . Mr . Axenfeld responded that the building is proposed to be 130 feet from the road . Virginia Langhans mentioned the fact that there is a 20 - foot drop - off on the site , with Mr . Axenfeld agreeing . Ms . Langhans wondered about signage , with Mr . Axenfeld answering , yes , there would be signage , as well as a smaller sign on the building itself . George Frantz , Assistant Town Planner , commented that tonight ' s business was to seek a subdivision , and also some Planning Board comments on the site plan , until more information is gathered on how to deal with the elevation on the site . Virginia Langhans mentioned that it seemed to her there were pieces being taken out of the Mancini property all the time . Mr . Frantz was in agreement , noting that that was addressed in the SEQR , and also in the proposed resolution . Mr . Frantz stated that he felt • it was time for Mr . Mancini to come forward with some sort of overall plan for the site, before any more subdivisions are allowed . Mr . Frantz noted that one of the concerns was access to the interior of the site . Chairman May noted that this was a Public Hearing and asked if there were anyone from the public who had any comments or questions . David Klein , Town Board member , spoke from the floor and stated that he found it a little hard to comment when there is no material to comment on . Mr . Klein wondered if something could be appended to the bulletin board . Mr . Axenfeld appended the currently considered site plan to the bulletin board , along with the proposed subdivision map . At this time , George Frantz , Assistant Town Planner , [ indicating on map ] explained exactly where the property is located . Mr . Klein inquired as to the outdoor display . Mr . Axenfeld responded that there would be two swimming pools - one in - ground and one above - ground , adding that they would be permanent structures , and also they would be fenced . Mr . Axenfeld noted that the pools would not be used for swimming , but would be filled with water . Town Planner , Susan Beeners , asked Mr . Frantz if he had discussed the outdoor display matter with the Town Zoning Officer , Andrew Frost , Mr . Frantz replied that he had , and it was reported that some sort of • interpretation had been made that the outdoor display would be permitted under the Zoning Ordinance . Planning Board - 9 - March 7 , 1989 • Virginia Langhans wondered if the pools would be left up all winter . Mr . Axenfeld answered , yes . Mr . Frantz mentioned landscaping , in that it could help to enhance the outdoor display . There appearing to be no one else from the public who wished to speak to this matter , Chairman May closed the Public Hearing at 8 : 10 p . m . and brought the matter back to the Board for discussion . Mr . Frantz said that the site plan approval would come back before the Planning Board . Chairman May stated that the Planning Board would be Lead Agency for subdivision approval . Attorney Barney wondered who was making the application in question , with Mr . Axenfeld responding that he was , Mr . Mancini is the actual seller of the property . Mr . Axenfeld stated that he has a Purchase Offer for the property , contingent upon approvals . Attorney Barney stated that the Board should have something in writing from Mr . Mancini about subdividing his land , because at this juncture Mr . Axenfeld is acting as Mr . Mancini ' s agent , plus the controls the Board wants to insert are not only directed to Mr . Axenfeld , but they are also directed to future subdivision by Mr . Mancini , Ms . Beeners offered that there was an old plan back in the mid - 1950s for the entire Mancini - Brink land that is indicated on the appended drawing , • adding , this type of subdivision is generally consistent with Mancini , and also , when the parcels in the middle were subdivided it did present an overall plan which , again , there is some consistency with the current porposed plan , although at that time , the old plan showed a 150 ' buffer all the way along Elmira Road , which was strictly Light Industrial , and not Commercial . Ms . Beeners noted that Commercial uses have evolved over time with a couple of interpretations by the Zoning Board that , indeed , any lawful use , except for residential , was permitted in a Light Industrial District . Ms . Beeners stated that the proposed development has six acres or so which have been subdivided out , over time , from the Mancini property , with no reservation of open space . Ms . Beeners stated , for the record , that it would be her recommendation that a full evaluation of that subdivision activity should be considered in any future subdivision , as far as open space is concerned . The Board was in agreement with Ms . Beeners . MOTION by Dr . William Lesser , seconded by Mr . Robert Kenerson : WHEREAS * 1 . This action is the Consideration of Subdivision Approval for the proposed subdivision of a 2 . 016 ± acre parcel from Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No . 6 - 33 - 3 - 2 . 2 , 88 . 73 ± acres total , located on Elmira Road ( N . Y . S . Rt . 13 ) approximately 900 feet south of its intersection with Five Mile Drive ( N . Y . S . Rt . 13A ) . • 2 . This is an Unlisted action for which the Planning Board has been legislatively determined to act as Lead Agency for environmental review . Planning Board - 10 - March 7 , 1989 • 3 . The Assistant Town Planner has recommended a negative determination of environmental significance for this action . THEREFORE , IT IS RESOLVED : That the Planning Board , acting as Lead Agency in the environmental review of this Unlisted action , make and hereby does make a negative determination of environmental significance for this action . There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote . Aye - May , Grigorov , Langhans , Kenerson , Lesser , Miller , Smith . Nay - None . The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously . MOTION by Mrs . Virginia Langhans , seconded by Mr . Robert Miller : WHEREAS : 1 . This action is the Consideration of Subdivision Approval for the proposed subdivision of a 2 . 016 ± acre parcel from Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No . 6 - 33 - 3 - 2 . 2 , 88 . 73 ± acres total , located on Elmira Road ( N . Y . S . Rt . 13 ) approximately 900 feet south of its intersection with Five Mile Drive ( N . Y . S . Rt . 13A ) . 2 . This is an Unlisted action for which the Planning Board , acting as Lead Agency for environmental review , has , on March 7 , 1989 , made a negative determination of environmental significance . 3 . The Planning Board , at Public Hearing on March 7 , 1989 , has reviewed the proposed plat plan and other application submissions . THEREFORE , IT IS RESOLVED : 1 . That the Planning Board waive and hereby does waive certain requirements for Preliminary and Final Subdivision Approval , having determined from the materials presented that such waiver will result in neither a significant alteration of the purpose of subdivision control nor the policies enunciated or implied by the Town Board , 2 . That the Planning Board grant and hereby does grant Final Subdivision Approval to the subdivision as proposed , with the following conditions . a . That any future subdivision proposals for the remaining portion of Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No . 6 - 33 - 3 - 2 . 2 reflect an overall plan for use of the parcel , including future • access to the interior of the parcel . Planning Board - 11 - March 7 , 1989 • b . That any future subdivision of the remaining portion of said Parcel No . 6 - 33 - 3 - 2 . 2 include the consideration of the dedication of land for public park and open space purposes pursuant to Article IV , Section 22 , of the Town of Ithaca Subdivision Regulations . c . That , before the subdivision map is signed by the Chairman of the Planning Board , there be supplied a written request from the current owners of the property ( Earland and Robert Mancini ) specifically requesting the subdivision and agreeing to the conditions set forth in paragraphs a . and b . above . There being no further discussion , Chairman May called for a vote . Aye - May , Grigorov , Langhans , Kenerson , Lesser , Miller , Smith . Nay - None . The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously . At this point , Chairman May stated that the Board does not have enough information with respect to the site plan . Attorney Barney suggested that Mr . Axenfeld withdraw his request for site plan approval tonight , and come back before the Board when more preparation • work has been done . Chairman May asked Mr . Axenfeld if he would formally withdraw his request for site plan approval . Mr . Axenfeld responded that he would request that the site plan approval request be withdrawn at this time . Virginia Langhans mentioned that some of the things the Board would want to see on the site plan are landscaping , placement of the sign , placement of the pools and their size , and type of fencing . William Lesser mentioned the fact that part of the building would be occupied by a tenant , adding that it would be useful to the Board to know what the intentions were , and how long - term the tenant relationship would likely be , also what kind of traffic the tenant might generate , and the parking situation . Chairman May mentioned that the Board would want to know what kind of lighting there would be on the outdoor display area . Chairman May declared the matter of Consideration of Subdivision Approval for Cannon Recreation and Spa of Ithaca duly closed at 8 : 25 p . m . PUBLIC HEARING : REVIEW OF PRELIMINARY PLAT APPLICATION SUBMISSIONS FOR THE PROPOSED " LAKE CAYUGA ESTATES " CLUSTERED SUBDIVISION , PROPOSED TO CONSIST OF 60 SINGLE - FAMILY LOTS AND PROPOSED TO BE LOCATED EAST OF ORCHARD HILL ROAD AND WEST OF N . Y . S . RT , 891 ON TOWN OF ITHACA TAX • PARCELS NO . 6 - 22 - 2 - 2 . 201 - 2 . 9 , AND 6 - 21 - 1 - 5 , 65 . 9 ± ACRES TOTAL , RESIDENCE DISTRICT R- 30 , EDWARD J . MCARDLE AND LESLIE N . REIZES , OWNERS ; DAVID A . MCARDLE , APPLICANT . Planning Board - 12 - March 7 , 1989 • Chairman May declared the Public Hearing in the above - noted matter duly opened at 8 : 28 p . m . and read aloud from the Notice of Public Hearings as posted and published and as noted above . Maps of the project were appended to the bulletin board . Ann Clarke approached the Board and stated that she was before the Board representing Lake Cayuga Estates , Ms . Clarke introduced David A . McArdle who is owner and developer of the project , along with Steven Blust , Design Engineer for the project . Ms . Clarke stated that the project was before the Board in September of 1988 for a very brief , very late , presentation of a Sketch Plan , adding , that Sketch Plan entailed roughly 58 acres , and commenting that the current plan is just under 70 acres . Ms . Clarke said that the major portion of the parcel is zoned R- 30 , and frontage lots on Route 89 are zoned R- 15 at this point . Ms . Clarke noted that the developer is requesting a cluster subdivision , but a cluster requires that a conventional plat be submitted , or be considered initially , commenting that the conventional plat is appended on the bulletin board , 65 . 9 acres divided into 59 lots , adding that all lots would meet the zoning requirements for the district in which they are located , noting , the roads are laid out such that they could meet the 10 % grade guideline that the Town has in place for subdivision roads . Ms . Clarke said that there is a 2 . 8 acre parcel proposed to be dedicated to the Town in the northeastern portion of the site for park land , noting that , additionally , the NYSEG railroad right - of -way was proposed to be developed as part of the Town ' s trail system , and as part of the open space requirement for the conventional plat , commenting that , as originally proposed on the plat , there would have been deed restrictions specifically related to preservation of trees and mature forest that are located on the site , noting that , since the time the Sketch Plan was presented that substantially conformed to that . Ms . Clarke stated that there has been a vegetation study done by Robert Wesley , a local expert in flora and fauna review , commenting , his study indicated that there are portions on the site that have significant covering in a 100 year old and better undisturbed mature forest , mainly in the ravine to the north on the property . Ms . Clarke noted that the ravine was a concern that the Town had for a conventional plat . Ms . Clarke offered that another area on the plat has forest that is estimated in a 60 - 70 year range , and the third area is , in the majority , covered with significant forest in a 40 - 50 year range . Ms . Clarke said that the remainder of the site consists of mainly brush , old farm fields , and not really significant forest growth . Ms . Clarke stated that , given this vegetation report , and the concern the Town had with crossing the ravine , the site has been re - evaluated , along with the proposal , adding that the developer suggests a cluster provision that allows them to cluster smaller lots , more of them in the areas where there is not significant tree growth , and provide for larger lots in the areas where there is mature forest , including a large , better than five acre . parcel " here " that also extends through the full length of the ravine 5 . 4 acres to be dedicated to the Town as open space , noting that it adjoins the NYSEG right - of -way which under the proposal would be Planning Board - 13 - March 7 , 1989 • developed as a park . Pointing to map , Ms . Clarke said there is another small " out " parcel " here " that is about 3 . 5 acres , adding , in total there would be just under six acres of land dedicated to the Town for open space . Ms . Clarke stated that the layout provides for minimal disturbance with the road system of the older mature forest areas , and allows the developer to use back lot lines , which would be reserved or protected by conservation easements , along with the lots themselves , adding , lots 7 through 35 , and 43 through 46 would all have restrictive covenants that would limit the amount of clearing on the site , on a particular lot , to 50 % , and would also set a minimum set - back or buffer to the rear lot line that could not be disturbed . Continuing , Ms . Clarke stated that the roadway alignment allows or proposes a connection to Route 89 , and about 450 ' of that connection is the only section of road proposed out of the 6000 lineal feet that would not meet Town grade . Ms . Clarke noted that the developer is proposing a 12 . 5 % grade in that vicinity , for the specific reason that , in order to get a safe alignment with Route 89 , and still cross the proposed trail system , without creating significant cut and elevation changes along the trail , the developer needs that type of a slope . Ms . Clarke remarked that the area is also an area that has some of the soils on the site that are not as good as some others . Ms . Clarke noted that the developer can provide , with the cluster provision , a 30 - foot buffer , a 50 - foot drainage easement to protect Indian Creek , and with " these " perimeter buffers , the • dedicated open space , and the conservation easements , come up with about 17 - 1 / 2 % open space dedication . Ms . Clarke stated that the developer estimates that there might be another 7 - 8 acres , if one took into consideraton the 50 % restriction on the clearing on the site . Ms . Clarke commented that the developer has platted 59 lots to meet Town codes , adding , 59 lots by definition in the R- 30 and R- 15 zoning would allow up to 118 dwelling units with use of the accessory apartments . Ms . Clarke stated that the developer is proposing 60 lots , all of which would be deed restricted to a one - family dwelling . Ms . Clarke mentioned water , sewer , and drainage . Ms . Clarke said that the water is proposed to be provided from Orchard Hill Road , but there would need to be 3 - 4 pressure reducing devices along the system to make it function properly , adding , the developer is proposing to tie in , at Route 89 , to provide a loop that would improve pressure along Taughannock Blvd , Ms . Clarke noted that the sewer is proposed to be gravity , noting that gravity flow would be provided from the site to Route 89 , and then to the Town interceptor . Ms . Clarke remarked that there is a concern from the City about capacity , commenting that the developer is proposing that a holding tank be established in the vicinity of this " out " parcel that would hold the average daily flow from the proposed development , and be able to bleed it into the system in off - peak , so that the rate of flow would not significantly change in that interceptor . Ms . Clarke stated that to provide sewerage to the Hospital line would require four separate lift • stations , all of which are not only expensive to put in , but expensive to maintain , and they would be dedicated to the Town . Ms . Clarke noted that , in this situation , when this line is improved , or a new Planning Board - 14 - March 7 , 1989 • interceptor is run , and the development is on line , the storage tank can be filled in and ignored from that point on . Ms . Clarke indicated that there are seven sub - drainage areas , and one can see a number of small swales that cross the parcel , and the developer is proposing to intercept some of them with the road system , adding , with the seven drainage areas there is only one area down [ pointing to map ] " here " in the vicinity of Indian Creek where there will be an increase in run - off due to the development , commenting , in all of the other points of discharge , which are essentially culverts under the railroad tracks , the run - off would be reduced from those rain basins by the diversion . Ms . Clarke said it is proposed that through " this " swale a storage capacity would be created . Ms . Clarke stated that both NYSEG and DOT have been contacted regarding the access on Route 89 , noting that both of the agencies are agreeable , but the developer cannot get anything in writing , or any commitment , until there is an actual alignment or approval from the Town that this is , indeed , the alignment . Ms . Clarke stated that , in terms of the actual layout , and how the cluster might vary from the conventional plat , the smaller lots range in the 20 , 000 square foot size , and the larger lots range from 1 to 1 - 1 / 2 acres . Ms . Clarke stated that , with the cluster plan before the Board , front set -back and rear set -back requirements can be met for the R- 30 and R - 15 zoning . Ms . Clarke said that the developer , in the cluster proposal , would be asking to vary the sideyard requirements down to 10 - 15 feet . • Chairman May noted that this was a Public Hearing and asked if there were anyone from the public who had any comments or questions . Edward Austen of 255 DuBois Road spoke from the floor and wondered how the developer proposes to cross the gorge on the north side . Ms . Clarke responded , it would be crossed with a culvert that would be put in in a manner that would protect the stream and embankment . Mr . Austen stated that he felt that was not a very attractive approach in crossing the gorge . Steven Blust , Design Engineer for the project , offered that it would be more of a stone bridge . Bruce Rich of 253 DuBois Road appeared before the Board and wondered about the price range of the homes , and also wondered if the depth of the soil , in relation to the bedrock , had been checked . Ms . Clarke replied that no test borings have been done on the site todate , but the soil survey indicates that there are not significant limitations . David McArdle stated that the price of lots to local builders would be somewhere around $ 50 , 000 . 00 . Ms . Clarke offered that there is a requirement in the deed that the minimum square footage dwelling area would be 1 , 800 square feet . Rosalind Grippi of 423 E . Seneca Street spoke from the floor and wondered if it was allowable to build near gorges . Ms . Grippi wondered about the cluster concept of the development . Ms . Grippi stated that she had spoken with Mr . Grout of the DOT , because she was • concerned about the development . Ms . Clarke responded that Mr . Grout is the local maintenance supervisor for DOT , and he is the individual that would review a permit , and initially review specification plans Planning Board - 15 - March 7 , 1989 • to build that intersection with Route 89 . Ms . Clarke said that DOT does have a number of culverts under Route 89 , and Mr . Grout has identified that the drainage to those various culverts cannot be changed ( increased ) significantly . Ms . Clarke noted that the proposed plan would not increase the drainage through those culverts . Ms . Grippi mentioned sanitary sewers , and also an application to the City of Ithaca . Ms . Clarke , responding to Ms . Grippi ' s comments , stated that there has been no specific application to the City of Ithaca that has been denied for sewage disposal , adding , the sewage disposal option in either instance would be running into Town lines , commenting , the alternative would be four lift stations on the site , and connection to an interceptor line that is by the Hospital , noting that the sewer is within the sewer district and is capable of being sewered through the Town lines one way or the other . Ms . Clarke said that , in terms of the access to Route 89 , the state does require a perpendicular access . David Klein , Town Board member , spoke from the floor and stated that he felt the plan before the Board was significantly improved from the earlier plan , but he thought there was still a long way to go . Mr . Klein mentioned the natural drainage courses , in that there are quite a few houses in the southern end of the site where the drainage courses would go right through the houses . Ms . Clarke noted that , the way the drainage was proposed to be handled , as was originally • proposed on the conventional plat , is when the roads are constructed , the grades are going to change on the site , and in a number of instances the roads intercept those drainage swales , such that those swales would direct flow to another major swale . Mr . Klein wondered what the various grades of the roads would be . Ms . Clarke [ indicating on map ] said that there is a 1 % grade coming in , approximately 30 feet off Route 89 . Bruce Rich of 253 DuBois Road again approached the Board and wondered about the water pressure . Mr . Rich mentioned that the property in question adjoins the Poyer property at the northern end . Mr . Rich stated that he was concerned that all the property in the area would be developed , and he is totally against it . Ms . Clarke responded that , in terms of the water , the developer had discussed the issue with , at that time , Town Engineer Robert Flumerfelt , and he did not express any concerns on the water , except for the fact that the developer would have to provide pressure reducing devices , because the tanks are higher . Ms . Beeners stated that the Town is in the process of selecting a consulting engineer to evaluate the West Hill water and sewer improvements that may be necessary , noting that all developers coming in may be required to contribute a fair share toward improvements , such as to the Cliff Street pump station . Edward Austen of 255 DuBois Road again appeared before the Board and stated that he is very familiar with the property in question as it abuts his property . Mr . Austen said that there is very shallow • topsoil on the land . Planning Board - 16 - March 7 , 1989 Chairman May wondered if the homes would have conventional basements , or slab on grade , with Ms . Clarke responding , slab on grade , given the height requirements . Les Reizes of 1061 Taughannock Blvd . spoke from the floor and stated that he had a concern about the Town having a preference for the sewer to pump uphill . Mr . Reizes mentioned the use of the old sewer , which then Town Engineer Robert R . Flumerfelt had stated was one of the worst and oldest sewer lines in the entire Town . Ms . Beeners offered that the Assistant Town Engineer , Erik Whitney , thought that on a preliminary basis the holding tank idea would be an appropriate one , noting , it would set the stage so that in the future , if there were the necessary improvements down in the Inlet area , then there could be gravity flow . Ms . Beeners said that one marginal item would be , if the holding tank was located within the proposed " Outlet B " , she was not sure that land could be considered part of the public open space system . Chairman May questioned whether or not the Town would accept the dedication of the holding tank . Ms . Beeners said that that would require City approval , as well as Town , to have that type of arrangement . Krys Cail of 337 DuBois Road approached the Board and wondered if the developer intended to blast bedrock to site the homes . Steven Blust replied that no extensive borings have been done , or anything of that nature . Mr . Blust said that approval is needed as to where to do • the borings . Salvatore Grippi of 423 E . Seneca Street spoke from the floor and wondered about an environmental impact study of that area . Ms . Beeners responded that this meeting was a Public Hearing to have a review of the material that has been submitted for this project , adding , staff is still in the process of reviewing the material . Ms . Beeners stated that it was her recommendation that input be received at tonight ' s meeting , and also some answers to items she had written down , before asking for an EAF , Long Form , Ben Boynton of 33 Wilkins Road approached the Board and asked if the Town of Ulysses had given any formal opinion , as they are an adjoining municipality . Attorney Barney replied that the Town notified them as a matter of course . Ms . Beeners stated that she had not received any response to the Public Hearing Notice . Eugene Ball of 1317 Trumansburg Road spoke from the floor and wondered if the developer was aware that there were a lot of heavy thunderstorms in this area . Mr . Ball inquired as to whether the developer had any knowledge of the flooding problem . Ms . Clarke answered , no , we are only dealing with the requirements within the Town Subdivision Regulations . Mr . Ball distributed pictures of the 1935 flood to the Board , and pointed out the " wash " in the area being discussed . Ms . Clarke said that both the conventional and cluster plat is designed to meet the Town ' s specifications for storm water • management on the site . Attorney Barney stated that the Town requirement for a development , from an engineering standpoint , is a 25 year storm design . Planning Board - 17 - March 7 , 1989 Myrtle Whitcomb of 233 Troy Road addressed the Board and stated that , up until tonight , she thought she had a fair idea of what the concept of a cluster development was . Ms . Whitcomb stated that she was concerned about the discussion of this particular plan , and its phraseology that it is a cluster development , because from her understanding of what a cluster development is , this one does not fit that . Ms . Whitcomb wondered if this was really a cluster development . Ms . Whitcomb ' s idea of a cluster development is that one takes a particular piece of property and clusters the homes within a small area , keeping the large area intact as green space . Ms . Clarke responded with , in terms of how this plat approaches a cluster , the developer has positioned a majority or significant number of the lots in a small space where there is not vegetation . Pointing to the map , Ms . Clarke said that " this " area is to be reserved :from development , but the developer has chosen an approach which is also used in cluster development , not to dedicate the land that is being reserved as open space , and in the green area specifically to the parcel as a whole , but to reserve it in conservation easements , adding , it stays on the tax rolls , and it is within an independent development lot , rather than a common area assessment . Ms . Clarke offered that lot sizes are allowed to vary within clustering , and the layout is allowed to vary . Attorney Barney stated that the Town Subdivision Regulations specifically defines cluster as basically a development where the lot sizes are less than normally required , but that the density in the entire subdivision cannot exceed the density that would otherwise be . allowable if it were developed conventionally . Chairman May wondered about the conventional plot , and whether or not it meets the Zoning Ordinance , and also whether or not it could be built in several areas . Ms . Clarke responded that those comments had been addressed with the staff , adding that the developer agreed there were some areas that needed to be amended . Rosalind Grippi of 423 E . Seneca Street wondered if , and when , this particular , project was brought back before the Board , should there be more topo studies completed , because Ms . Grippi believes that gorges are protected in some ways . Ms . Clarke responded that the topo represented on the site is a site topo and is provided at 10 - foot contour intervals . Virginia Langhans asked about fire protection . Ms . Clarke answered that probably the fire protection would be achieved from Route 89 . Chairman May mentioned coming up the 12 - 1 / 2 % grade and then turning on the private driveway , adding , this would have to be checked with the Ithaca Fire Department , Bruce Rich of 253 DuBois Road wondered if the electric service would be above or underground . Ms . Clarke answered , electric service would be underground . Carolyn Grigorov wondered what the total acreage was , with Ms . Clarke answering , 65 . 9 acres . • There appearing to be no one else from the public who wished to speak to this matter , Chairman May closed the Public Hearing at 9 : 25 p . m . and brought the matter back to the Board for discussion . Planning Board - 18 - March 7 , 1989 At this time , the Board discussed the conventional plot plan . Ms . Clarke noted that there were a number of questions raised by the Town staff relating to the conventional plat and the buildabilities , specifically , of Lots # 15 , # 43 , # 50 , # 46 , and # 47 , adding , as those lots appear now , with the existing swales , it could be considered difficult to build on those lots . Ms . Clarke offered that , as orginally proposed on the conventional plat , the drainage swales are being intercepted such that , " this " swale is being brought to " here " . M:; . Clarke noted that the swale between Lot # 43 and Lot # 50 would be in place , but " this " swale would not , noting that there is adequate depth " here " to build and meet the requirements of the Town . Ms . Clarke noted that " this " swale is also redirected back into " this " lot line , and there is adequate depth on both of those to meet the set - back requirements ; " this " swale has roughly 165 feet from the swale to the property edge , and there is more than adequate room to meet the requirements for a dwelling . Ms . Clarke stated that the planning staff was addressed as to the fact that those five lots could be considered :buildable , adding , a couple of other points addressed by the staff that affect the layout are related to the access and provisions for additional access off the site , and a secondary access to the site . Ms . Clarke stated that , as proposed on an earlier plat , there was a tentative access to Route 89 , and it will be provided back on the current plat . Ms . Clarke stated that the Town planning staff had also suggested that a 60 - foot right - of -way needs to be reserved to Happy Lane , and a 60 - foot right - of -way, needs to be reserved to the Fiser property , adding , it definitely meets the Town ' s requirements that a right - of -way be provided to existing unsubdivided lands , and , indeed , that Fiser parcel is landlocked , commenting that that can be accommodated on the cluster plat and also on the conventional plat . Ms . Clarke stated that the dedication of the right - of -way to Happy Lane needs further study . Ms . Clarke pointed out that the Town had completed a study of cluster developments in place now , on a Townwide basis , and that on the average , cluster developments have 12 % dwellings with accessory apartments . Chairman May wondered if the 1000 - foot cul de sac met the requirements , with Ms . Clarke answering , no , that would be part of the provision with the additional right - of - way . Chairman May wondered how many lots were really unbuildable , with the gorge going through them in the upper section . Chairman May noted that the gorge is being crossed three different times . Chairman May wondered if the developer had talked with NYSEG concerning the trail , with Mr . McArdle responding that he had discussed it briefly with NYSEG , and they indicated that it would have to be coordinated with the efforts of the Town . Ms . Clarke stated that the Town Subdivision Regulations offer either dedication of land or payment in lieu of land . Ms . Beeners noted that the developer is asking , in the clustered plat , that the Town accept a larger natural area as a park site , with Ms . Clarke agreeing . Ms . Beeners said that it is the Planning Board ' s prerogative as to whether that improvement in lieu is appropriate in considering the hypothetical conventional plat , or if it is a desire to see , instead , a hypothetical park site , which would equal the 100 . Planning Board - 19 - March 7 , 1989 Attorney Barney asked about the common area . Ms . Clarke responded that there is no major dedication of common area proposed on the cluster plat , at this point that common area designation is in there because there may be a provision for some sort of monument or name of the subdivision at the entrance , and if that were the case that would be the common area maintained by the Homeowners ' Association , Virginia Langhans asked about an apartment over the garage for domestic help . Ms . Clarke responded that there is wording in the Restricted Covenants that states one can have a two -car garage , and that there would not be any dwellings in it , except that it was stated as living quarters for domestic help , not an apartment per se , adding , those living quarters would fall within the one - family definition . Ms . Clarke stated that it is not proposed to be separate living quarters . Attorney Barney asked Ms . Clarke to define living quarters . Ms . Clarke responded with , bedroom , bath , or sitting area , it is not intended to be a dwelling unit . Ms . Clarke stated that the intention is to have single - family lots . At this point , William Lesser stated that he was rather concerned about a use of a cluster plan to put open space in someone ' s backyard , adding that , at this point , he does not see what that off - set amenity is . Ms . Clarke mentioned that , in all the cluster plans before the Town , all the common area has been dedicated to the Town or to the public . Mr . Lesser said that , generally , it is a matter of preserving some larger open areas , not open areas that are a portion of a lot . Ms . Clarke stated that , at the present time , the lines of the Restrictive Covenant are not drawn on a plat , but , essentially , " this " back lot area " here " tying in to " this " , " this " and " this " , along with a portion " hese " , dedicated with the easement , would be blocks of natural open space that would be preserved . Ms . Clarke noted that it is not proposed to be public access , but proposed to be preserved for the Town ' s concern to protect and preserve the natural qualities of the site . Ms . Clarke stated that there is a requirement in the Restrictive Covenants that a licensed professional architect develop the plans on any individual site , and that the developer has oversight in review of the plans for each site on the development , adding , there is also a provision in the Covenants that the Town is also named in conservation easements in making sure that they are maintained as conservation easements , and that they do stay in open space . Chairman May stated that he would like to see some more protection , and availability of the northern gorge . cMs . Clarke noted that there is 250 feet dedicated to the Town that encompasses the gorge . Ms . Langhans stated that she would like to see the 6 " tree diameter reduced to 4 " . Mr . McArdle said that he had talked to a • number of experts in the tree business , and they felt that a 6 " tree was significant enough to keep . Planning Board - 20 - March 7 , 1989 Ms . Beeners wondered how the Board wants to deal with open space in the hypothetical conventional plat , commenting , should there be a hypothetical 10 % park space dedication shown on the plat , in order for the Planning Board to work toward determining what the density should be in the alternate clustered plat , or should the Board accept the proposal that there be an acceptance of a trail improvement on the right - of -way ? Chairman May responded that , in looking at it hypothetically , he would like to see the 6 . 6 acres set aside . Stephen Smith wondered about the scheduling on the road construction . Ms . Clarke responded that the developer plans to put in all of the improvements on the site in one phase . Virginia Langhans asked if any homes would be built , or was this just for lot sale . Mr . McArdle replied that he had talked to some of the local builders and an arrangement might be made as to a joint venture , i . e . , the developer would carry the lot for the builder . William Lesser stated that , with any redrafting , he would like to see the reservation of a right - of -way as to the hook -up with Happy Lane . There appearing to be no further questions or comments from the Board , Chairman May asked if anyone were prepared to offer a motion . MOTION by William Lesser , seconded by Virginia Langhans : RESOLVED , by the Town of Ithaca Planning Board , that the Public Hearing in the matter of Preliminary Plat review :for " Lake Cayuga Estates " be and hereby is adjourned sine die , pending revision as discussed at tonight ' s meeting , and pending receipt of additional information . There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote . Aye - May , Grigorov , Langhans , Kenerson , Lesser , Miller , Smith . Nay - None . The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously . Chairman May announced that , for everyone ' s information , the above matter will be re - advertised in the newspaper , and also there would be a mailing of individual Notices . Chairman May declared the matter of the Review of Preliminary Plat application submissions for the proposed " Lake Cayuga Estates " clustered subdivision duly adjourned at 10 : 18 p . m . ADJOURNMENT Upon Motion , Chairman May declared the March 7 , 1989 , meeting of • the Town of Ithaca Planning Board duly adjourned at 10 : 20 p . m . Planning Board - 21 - March 7 , 1989 Respectfully submitted , Mary Bryant , Recording Secretary , Nancy M . Fuller , Secretary , Town of Ithaca Planning Board . i i I Po" Ko" '' LIi " NARY PROGRAM FOR WEST HILL MASTER ILM • PROGRAM ELEMENT & RECOMMENDATIONS CRITERIA COORDINATLON WITH TOWN Criteria : Recommendations: PARKS & PEDESTRIAN SYSTEMS Maximize access to 1 . Provide pedestrian connection to and connections Williams Brook natural area . between City and 2 . Provide pedestrian connection to Flood Town recreation and Control Channel Linear Park , open - space systems . ROADS Provide logical i . Develop new crossing at south end in movement between coordination with the Town , City & Town . 2 . Tie a major collector road coming from the Town Into the new south crossing . 3. Develop other street connections in coordination with the Town . • CONSERVATION Preserve existing major 1 , Work with Town on development of drainage ways ; prohibit stream preservation corridors in upper reduction in capacity watershed areas . Encourage Town to andlowering of water adopt preservation corridors upstream qua 11 ty , I from the City on designated streams . 2 . Encourage Town to adopt Storm Water Control run - off from new Control Ordinance now under developments in the Town consideration by the Town , requiring from adversely impacting detention and metered discharge . the City. 3 . Work with Town to extend woodland protection into upper watershed areas. UTILITIES Maintain adequate water I . Coordinate location of new water tower supply and pressure for fire on West Hill with Town of Ithaca , hydrants for existing and 2 . Address long term issue of water supply planned developments in the for West Hill . City & Town , 3 . Coordinate extensions of sewer lines . • Allow for logical movementof sewage from the Town through the City . EXHIBIT 1 1 REPRODUCTIONS FOR WEST HILL MASTERPLAN Photographically reduce originals to 50 % ( Reduced scale : 11" - 400 ' ) Final Products : • 13 Composite acetate slicks • 9 Single sheet acetate slicks • 13 Reductions to 1 1x17 paper, one of each composite ( wiII be used for xeroxing ) COMPOSITES : Composite Title Overlay Components ( see index on sheets ) 1 . 1971 Plan 1971 Plan Title 2 . 1954 Plan 1954 Plan Title 3 . . Existing Land Use Land Use Property Lines Roads ( Labeled ) Title • 4. Proposed Development Proposed Development Topography Roads ( Labeled ) Property Lines 5 . Potential Development Potential Development Topography Roads ( Labeled ) Property Lines Buildings b . Street Hierarchy Street Hierarchy Topography Roads ( Labeled ) Property Lines Buildings 7 . Open Space Systems Open Space Systems Topography Roads ( Labeled ) Property Lines Buildings EXHIBIT 1 v 0 Composites , cont . # Composite Title Overlay Components ( see index on Af:ets ) 8 . Utilities Utilities Topography Roads ( Unlabeled ) Property Lines 9 . Neighborhood Character Neighborhood Character Title 10 . Zoning Zoning Topography Roads ( Labeled ) Property Lines 11 . Slope , Road Gradients & Slope , Road Gradients & Emergency Access Emergency Access Topography Roads ( Unlabeled ) 12 . Existing Woodland Existing Woodland Vegetation • Vegetation Topography Roads ( Labeled ) Property Lines 13 . Base Information Topography Roads ( Labeled ) Property Lines Buildings S1Mb t b ti SLICKS ( see index on sheets ) : 1 . Topography 2 . Roads ( Labeled ) 3 . Property Lines " 4. Land Use 5 . Potential Development b . Buildings 7 . Utilties 5 . Zoning 9 . Existing Woodland Vegetation EXHIBIT 1 41P 1. AJPF1DA % 61 ". a ? VBUCATIOX ' JOURNAL.. * i C.I- L TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD, NOTICE OF PUBLIC E H ARINGS TUES. MARCH 7 '89 - .3�_ ahc - ...._. . _..._._ - _ . .___ . .. . ._.. ..__ _ biro " da0t rt-CrM, drPOSCS IBy direction of the Chairman `. p at the Planning Board, NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN, that Public rt ,. ^� � _ l i ^ .7 .t Hearings will be held b the ft \7t t.8t bt: TCSl ., G• L. 1 �.3 ^1., Wei ' L'] f`.ZtC L _ �^� il . i:. 0 Planning Board of the Town of ,• : .. Ithaca on Tuesday, March '7; ;' _ �. 1 :. 4LGr�!►_ ..• •_ —._ __ _,___ _ _ _ __ . __• __ . .- _• _ -. •__. ___ _ 1989, in Town Hall, East : Seneca N. Y. ;a Street, Ithaca, N. dt'. the following times and on the . - -.. . - . . . . . _ _ following matters: • • L,1 ; o 0 Cr'r Tam Irs �+cs: gvPoiAL. a b�U: neM a -sntrd Lad s. . g - - -- - p • g _. - - _ 8:00 P. M. Consideration of .. Subdivision Approval for the ro osed subdivision of a' { � - of � � the s;nel � u it tree[;_ 2. 016 plus or minus acre par ��ck t and ' cel from Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 6-33-3-2. 2, 88. 73 plus or minus acres total, to Z" C '1 �_ . . �_. . __ ._ .__ . __,-_ . ._r _..._ Gated on Elmira Road (N. Y. S. V (y et st. ) approximately s intersection plction w 900 i south with. —• �!�: C. _._._ � — __. __. _. Five Mile Drive (N. Y.S. � Rt. - 13A), and further, Consider- ation of Site Plan Approval for ^ - . . _ — . . .- ----y.-.. ._. ._ . . - - - ... —.. _ ..._ ._. _ _ a proposed 5, 000 sq. ft. com- mercial building, with parking ' and outdoor display, for Can- al tom ! uv! Lst � �i: =if Or S _' D w � op tt [ non Recreation and Spa of e Ithaca, proposed to be locatedr �7 Q on such 2. 016 plus or, minus . . t Q - . • sed to be u �. . subdi subdivided parcelcre from said Parcel No. 6-33-3-2. 2, Light Industrial District. Earland and Robert �-- - �� /� Mancini, Owners; David Ax- - - L -�, . . . . _.. . . . . . . _.. . . . _ . enfeld, Applicant. 8: 30 P. M. Review of Prelimi- � _ .^•^ ' � � nary Plot application submis- sions for the proposed "Lake Cayuga Estates" clustered : subdivision, proposed to con- .. . . . . . 111. . sist of 60 single-family lots and proposed to located east of Orchard Hill Road and west of N. Y. S. Rt. 89, on Town - - -: . _ . . _. .— . . - . .. . . . . . . . . .. . .. . . ... .. .. . . .. .— __._ . ... _ ... . . _ . . . .. .. _ of Ithaca Tax Parcels No. 6-22- 1 CsG,2'Z f S1r s; . 2-2. 2, -2. 9, and 6-21 - 1 -5, 65.9 j plus or minus acres total , Resi. JEAN FORD dente District R-30. Edward J. McArdle and Leslie N. P.eizes, Notary Public, State Of New York Owners; David A. McArdle, Applicant. No. 4654410 Said Planning Board will at said times and said place hear j Qualified in Tc = < ; ns CoUrliy all ptersonsor in suptsuchhereto. eta. Commission expires ,May 31 , 19 . , , Persons may appear by agent : or in person . Jean H . Swartwood Town Clerk 273- 1721 March 2, 1989 I I