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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB Minutes 1983-05-03 c TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD MAY 31 1983 The Town of Ithaca Planning Board met in regular session on Tuesday , May 3 , 1983 , in Town Hall , 126 East Seneca Street , Ithaca , N . Y . , at 7 : 30 p . m . PRESENT : Chairman Montgomery May , Barbara Schultz , James Baker , Virginia Langhans , David Klein , Bernard Stanton , Edward Mazza , Lawrence P . Fabbroni ( Town Engineer ) , Lewis D . Cartee ( Building Inspector ) , Nancy M . Fuller ( Secretary ) . ALSO PRESENT . Carl Abbattista , Jane Abbattista , Robert A . Boehlecke Jr . , Architect , Frederick M . Mitchell , M . D . , Kim Klein , Julie Mertus ( WTKO ) . Chairman May declared the meeting duly opened at 7 : 33 p . m . APPROVAL OF MINUTES - February 1 , 1983 The following changes were noted on page 4 by Mrs . Langhans on behalf of Mrs . Grigorov . After the third paragraph add , " As . the County Planning Department sees it , " In the fourth paragraph there should be quotation marks around the word " thwarted . " At the end of the fourth paragraph add " and sees other economic loss to the City . " MOTION by Mr . Bernard Stanton , seconded by Mrs . Virginia Langhans : RESOLVED , that the Minutes of the Town of Ithaca Planning Board Meeting of February 1 , 1983 be and hereby are approved as amended . There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote . Aye - May , Schultz , Stanton , Baker , Langhans , Klein , Mazza . Nay - None . The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously . APPROVAL OF MINUTES - February 15 , 1983 MOTION by Mrs . Virginia Langhans , seconded by Mrs . Barbara Schultz : RESOLVED , that the Minutes of the Town of Ithaca Planning Board Meeting of February 15 , 1983 be and hereby are approved as written . Planning Board - 2 - May 3 , 1983 . There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote . Aye - May , Schultz , Stanton , Baker , Langhans , Klein , Mazza .' Nay - None . The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously . APPROVAL OF MINUTES - March 1 , 1983 MOTION by Mr . Edward Mazza , seconded by Mrs . Virginia Langhans : RESOLVED , that the Minutes of the Town of Ithaca Planning Board Meeting of March 1 , 1983 be and hereby are approved as written . There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote . Aye - May , Stanton , Baker , Langhans , Klein , Mazza . Nay - None . Abstain - Schultz . The MOTION was declared to be carried . . APPROVAL OF 14INUTES - March 15 , 1983 MOTION by Mr . Montgomery May , seconded by Mr . David Klein : RESOLVED , that the Minutes of the Town of Ithaca Planning Board Meeting of March 15 , 1983 be and hereby are approved as written . There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote . Aye - May , Stanton , Schultz , Baker , Langhans , Klein . Nay - None . Abstain - Mazza . The MOTION was declared to be carried . APPROVAL OF MINUTES - April 5 , 1983 MOTION by Mr . Bernard Stanton , seconded by Mrs . Barbara Schultz : RESOLVED , that the Minutes of the Town of Ithaca Planning Board Meeting of April 5 , 1983 be and hereby are approved as written . • There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote . 1 Planning Board - 3 - May 3 , 1983 . Aye - May , Stanton , Schultz , Baker , Langhans , Klein , Mazza . Nay - None . The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously . REPORT OF THE TOWN ENGINEER , LAWRENCE P . FABBRONI Mr . Fabbroni stated that we have had our problems of late ; just about everything we have started has been stopped either by snow or by rain . He reported that we are ready to go as soon as we get some decent weather . Mr . Fabbroni reported that work has been started on the Stone Quarry Road drainageways with two completed and a third 70 % complete . Mr . Fabbroni noted that the washout on the cliff is starting to stabilize and added that the project is working out pretty well . He commented that this is an ambitious Town project about which they were a little apprehensive , however , it is a nice improvement . Mr . Fabbroni commented that before this work there was only a tree between you and going over the hill . He stated that the primary cause of going in there was the washout in October of 1981 . Mr . Fabbroni pointed out that financing is under the Safer Off - System ( SOS ) and approvals under the State . He stated that there was no assistance under the flood but the Federal government did expand the system under SOS for that work . Mr . Fabbroni reported that Stone Quarry Road will be repaved as . part of our 1983 paving program . He commented that they will not be able to complete the job down at the railroad track until there is a decision between the City and the Town with regard to the drainageway , adding that they are in a transition time at the City with the new City Engineer on board so not much is going forward . Mr . Fabbroni reported on the tri - party agreement with the State , City , and Town whereby the State will buy the railroad right of way from Knight ' s Meat Market in the Valley up to Stone Quarry Road . Mr . Fabbroni described the bikeway from Cass Park to Buttermilk Falls Park . He stated that the agreement is virtually complete for review by the Town Board and Common Council . Mr . Fabbroni commented that our relationship in this project is to the bikeway mainly . Mr . Fabbroni reported that he has submitted two drainage proposals to the County for funding under their drainage program . An amount of $ 10 , 000 has been allocated for this year ; will fund one - fourth over the two proposals . One of the drainage proposals is in Eastern Heights for up - grading of work done in 1976 ; the other drainage proposal is rip - rapping or storm sewering areas down Slaterville Road needing stabilization . Mr . Fabbroni commented on some washing away but noted that it is not imperiling anyone ' s property . He commented on the possibility by submitting these applications of getting diversion ditches0 - stone - lined diversion ditches - or storm sewers . Planning Board - 4 - May 3 , 1983 . Mr . Fabbroni spoke of Fall Creek and the removing of deposits in the Creek and a retaining wall near Flat Rock . He stated that we would like to do what SCS ( Soil Conservation Service ) did for 150 feet . He noted that one of the purposes is channelizing away from the first two houses in Forest Home , Mr . Fabbroni stated that this is a big job involving around $ 200 , 000 . He stated that he has put forth a proposal for this laid out in increments asking for County funding ranging from 50 % to 120 . The funds would be used for machinery rental , extraordinary costs on piping , etc . In Fall Creek they have done enough for Dryden and the. City so the full 50 % funding has been requested . Mr . Fabbroni commented that we may not get anything this year because of the Town of Caroline problem but he hoped it would bring in something for next year when they consider the budget . Mr . Fabbroni reported that Northeast Transit is holding its own , East It: haca Transit is lower than last year with the main reason seeming to be some internal changes at Cornell where some administrative functions have been changed . He commented that the Credit Union has more convenient services on Campus and also the whole accounting function has been altered so people are going less from Campus to East Hill Plaza . He noted that it is not down more than 15 percent , however , pointing out that the first year ridership was ever so much more than expected . . Mr . Fabbroni reported that plans for Burns Road are moving along . He stated that he has asked for some conceptual go ahead from the City in terms of swapping lands before environmental hearings , etc . , and to clear legislative matters as to County commitment to rebuild the bridge . Chairman May thanked Mr . Fabbroni for his report . REPORT OF THE TOWN PLANNER , PETER M . LOVI Mr . Fabbroni reported that Mr . Lovi was attending an Environmental. Services Managers ' Conference at the University of Illinois , Champaign - Urbana . Mr . Fabbroni reported that the Town is presently looking at various computer languages for the IBM Displaywriter that will enhance the use of various software . He stated that IBM is aggressively getting into their own major pieces of software like Visicalc . Mr . Fabbroni was encouraged by the way software was progressing and commented that our best expectations as to the Displaywriter System were coming true . Chairman May thanked Mr . Fabbroni for the report . Chairman May reported , for everyone ' s information , that the Six Mile Creek Committee held a walk through the watershed to the • first dam two Saturdays ago so that participants could become familiar with. the area . He stated that Beth Mulholland was the leader . Chairman May participated in this walk and commented on Planning Board - 5 - May 3 , 1983 . the beauty and history of the Six Mile Creek area . Chairman May stated that another walk was planned for next Saturday , May 7 , 1983 , going above that area , adding that it was just for the committee . REVISED SKETCH PLAN REVIEW . TOMPKINS COUNTY PROFESSIONAL BUILDING , 1301 TRUMANSBURG ROAD , TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL N0 . 6 - 24 - 3 - 4 : PROPOSED ADDITION TO EXISTING BUILDING ( REAR ) , TOMPKINS COUNTY PROFESSIONAL BUILDING CORP . , APPLICANT , ROBERT A . BOEHLECKE JR . , ARCHITECT . Mr . Boehlecke stated that some slight revisions had been made to the plans received by Board members for the April 19 , 1983 meeting which was cancelled because of the severe snow storm . He passed out the new sketch plan showing revision date of 5 / 2 / 83 . Mr . Boehlecke noted that the parking lots , both existing and proposed , are shown , the parking delineated , the occupants indicated , and the square footages involved indicated , in response to the questions that were brought up at the last meeting . He noted also the delineation of trash barrels , enclosed garbage can storage , mercury vapor lights , incandescent lighting , existing and proposed plantings , existing foot path to Hospital , possible points of connection for driveway to hospital , " latest " proposed point of connection to Hospital as per Hospital plans 4 / 83 . . Mr . Boehlecke stated that he got a cost estimate on the road . Mr . Boehlecke stated that he had written a letter dated April 6 , 1983 , to Mr . Frank Liguori , Tompkins County Department of Planning , with respect to possibilities or impossibilities of constructing a road or drive connecting the Professional Building with the Hospital . A copy of Mr . Boehlecke ' s letter to Mr . Liguori had been sent to all Planning Board members . Mr . Boehlecke stated that he had talked with Mr . Liguori by telephone and he had said he would get a response to the Board . Mr . Boehlecke stated that Mr . Liguori got back to him and said they have not decided anything yet . Mr . Boehlecke commented that the County is involved , the Town involved , the State involved and the Hospital involved in such a matter and they will have to make some sort of decision . Mr . Boehlecke noted that Dr . Mitchell was present and prepared to answer questions and discuss the " road " . Mr . Boehlecke! suggested that the Board could address questions to him . Dr . Mitchell spoke from the floor and stated that right after the last meeting and taking the plan previously proposed by the County , they determined that the most direct route would be off the corner of the property . He stated that they came up with a rough cost. estimate of $ 25 , 000 to $ 30 , 000 to build a road connection down there . . Chairman May asked how many feet this road would involve . Dr . Mitchell stated that it was 520 feet taking into consideration the latest County preferred plan . i Planning Board - 6 - May 3 , 1983 . Mr . Fabbroni stated that subsequent to the Planning Board ' s meeting the last time on the Doctor ' s proposal , the Town was invited up to the Hospital , commenting that that was after , essentially , the County and the Town went to the Hospital to consider another alternative . The County said yes , hired a professional to further refine their thoughts in conjunction with the Route 96 alignment . Mr . Fabbroni stated that to everyone ' s positive feelings he had received the suggestion from the hospital that their future configuration would look something like this , adding that it is by no means in final form . He said that they are trying to relate these thoughts to NYSDOT to get them to incorporate them into design for Route 96 . He did not know at this point how much , if any , of these improvements the State would fund . It would be plausible to believe that the State would bear the full cost of any new access . If everything stays status quo and a 520 - foot second access is considered , it is not as plausible , based on meetings Mr . Fabbroni has attended , that the State would pick up any of the cost . He commented that this eliminates the existing access to the Professional Building . Mr . Fabbroni further stated that the Hospital is very much concerned about their parking needs , particularly if something happens to the Biggs Building and they lose parking in front of that . Referring to the plan before the Board , Mr . Fabbroni noted that from this particular configuration they may have the . possibility for extension . He stated that it fits pretty much in line with what the Town staff has said to Mr . Boehlecke and Dr . Mitchell . He stated that staff recommends another access , the hospital plan would be the one that would be the most desirable . He stated that if this happens , there would be one access and one would be plenty . Mr . Fabbroni stated that he would suggest a commitment as a contingency , adding that we will not know for at least ten months if it is a go at all . He stated that in order to let people=_ move along with their plans it seems to make more sense to make some minimum commitment for alternate access and then if things happen where the State does not fund a portion , at least there is one piece in place for the County , Town , and Hospital to discuss who is going to pick up the remaining part of it . Mr . Fabbroni stated that , with all that in mind , he and Mr . Lovi have been talking to the applicant , commenting to Dr . Mitchell that if he had anything to offer along with the site plan at this point it would be timely . Dr . Mitchell stated that he agreed with Mr . Fabbroni completely and further stated that he could appreciate the fact that there is a traffic problem now which would be greater with the additional construction . He stated that there would be a greater problem if the State takes part of their access or all of it . Dr . Mitchell stated that the most attractive plan he has seen is the Hospital plan - - long road parallel to the highway . • Dr . Mitchell stated that all he can say is that they will cooperate with the various entities who make the decisions . He stated that they cannot make the decision , but , with respect to Planning Board - 7 - May 3 , 1983 • all these various bodies as they make decisions , they will work with them . He stated that they do have the plan which indicates a 520 foot road into the hospital grounds . Dr . Mitchell stated that if that has to be a commitment , he will make that commitment to participate in that construction . He stated that he cannot make an open - ended commitment because he is , so far , the only one to make any commitment at all . Chairman May stated that he did not see it as a viable project if this commitment had not been made and asked Mr . Fabbroni how the Planning Board should go about this . Mr . Fabbroni stated that this is part of the site plan considerations and his suggestion would be to recognize that they have arrived at a range that it would cost to provide the most direct second access now which is really an offering up of the right of way to build that improvement and all negotiations and agreements that might go along with this are out of their hands . He stated that it may take one to ten years to accomplish . Mr . Fabbroni stated that it was unfair to ask any more of a commitment than what they have offered here . Chairman May asked if there might be bonding at some time . Mr . Fabbroni stated that he would like to bounce that one off the Town Attorney who should be consulted about the most effective but least capital holding way to do that . • Mr . Stanton stated that he would hope the Planning Board would not be onerous after it has received a good faith statement . Mr . Stanton commented that he is concerned about access , noting that one access is only if eventually we end up with some route for 96 that can be agreed to . Mr . Stanton expressed a concern for parking , referring to those existing 24 spaces shown on the new sketch plan which are not very much used . He said that he was somewhat concerned with the present plan to handle people especially if it has a plan for traffic pattern to the Hospital since the area of those 24 spaces would be a very tough route when they have to give these up . He wondered , if that goes , where people would put their cars . Dr . Mitchell stated that there is excess land not shown that could be used. for parking , adding that more land is available for additional parking , if more spaces were needed . He commented that at the present time there has not been anyone who could not find a parking space . Mr . Stanton stated that he merely wished to register his concern . Dr . Mitchell stated that if they need more parking , they will allocate it . Mr . Stanton stated that he liked the idE� a of this alternate plan on paper , commenting that with the hospital ' s plan no parking spaces would have to given up . Mr . Boehlecke commented that he has personally counted 100 spaces available some times , but maybe that is the time he goes there . Dr . Mitchell agreed that in all his years there , they have never had a lack of parking problem . 1 Planning Board - 8 - May 3 , 1983 • Mr . Fabbroni stated that with the present sketch plan there are close to 40 spaces in excess of the minimum requirements . Mr . Fabbroni requested that Dr . Mitchell , as new parking areas are developed , keep in mind the possibility of a bus going around this whole area and thus keep in mind the ability of a bus to make the turns . He commented that a bus might come up from the Hospital Complex , circle around , and come back out . Mr . Klein referred to M . I . Adleman ' s plan and its differences from the State plans , and evidenced concern about the State taking so much land back from the road . Discussion followed in re the Route 96 schemes . Mr . Fabbroni noted that the Board had been over most of the details reflected on this plan . Mr . Mazza asked about garbage bins which were indicated by Mr . Boehlecke . Dr . Mitchell stated that trash has been picked up every single day by Collins for the past 23 years . Mr . Boehlecke asked if there were any further information the Board would want for public hearing and final site plan approval . Mr . May stated that his only concern would be discussion with the Town Attorney as to how this should be handled . Mr . May stated that he thought the alternate access is very important to it and , once done , he could be very comfortable with the proposal . All the Board members agreed . • Dr . Mitchell explained that the builder for this project was waiting and that they have a time problem since they would like to occupy the premises before winter . Chairman May indicated that the Board could schedule a public hearing for May 17 , 1983 , at 7 : 00 p . m . and suggested that Mr . Boehlecke discuss matters with Mr . Fabbroni and Mr . Lovi before the meeting . Mr . Fabbroni asked for an architectural sketch on elevations for that meeting . Dr . Mitchell and Mr . Boehlecke thanked the Board for their help . REVISED SKETCH PLAN REVIEW . PROPOSED EIGHT ( 8 ) LOT SUBDIVISION ALONG SLATERVILLE ROAD AND HONNESS LANE : A PORTION OF TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL NO . 6 - 58 - 2 - 39 . 2 ( KNOWN AS 131 HONNESS LANE ) . GLADYS BLATCHLEY , OWNER / DEVELOPER . Chairman May stated that Mrs . Blatchley had sent a letter to him , dated April 30 , 1983 , informing him that Mr . and Mrs . Carl Abbattista would be representing her at the Planning Board meeting tonight since she will be out of town . Mr . Carl Abbattista spoke from the floor and stated that based on the discussion at the last meeting and opinions voiced by the Board relative to cul - de - sac - type development juxtaposed with a through - road type development , they had decided to try two Planning Board - 9 - May 3 , 1983 . plans . Mr . Abbattista presented plans for a cul - de - sac - type development which he referred to as " Plan 1 " and a drive - through - type development which he called " Plan 2 " . Mr . Abbattista referred first to Plan 2 ( the drive - through plan ) and , _indicating on the map , described the revisions that had been made , noting that one of the objections he had heard was that they had a jog , so , that was changed by moving a lot and the road which made the road straight . There was a proposed park in the middle of the development , a 60 - foot access , and two walkways , which he indicated , to provide access for people around the park . One lot that may require a variance was marked with an asterisk ( * ) , there is a 50 - foot right - of -way and a considerable amount of space but it still may need the variance . He commented that that is the only problem they could foresee . He noted that there are two entrances to the development - Slaterville Road and Honness Lane and Lots 1 - 8 have access right on to the road . He stated that there are two reasons for this : ( 1 ) they knew they would lose lots ; ( 2 ) they did not feel that people ' s backyards should be on the State Highway ; they considered children playing and things of that nature . Mr . Abbattista stated that he had been in touch with Mr . Grout of the Department of Transportation and he saw no problems with the access roads being proposed on this plan . He stated that Mr . Grout told him that a property owner cannot be denied a • permit for a driveway on a State route . Mr . Abbattista stated that he asked Mr . Grout about the proposed road and he said any motion should be subject to approval , but he saw no problem . Mr . Abbattista stated that when he mentioned the other access to Mr . Grout on Honness Lane he thought that was a positive thing . Mr . Abbattista noted that the road matters go to the DOT office in Syracuse for final approval but Mr . Grout said he could see no problem with the access roads . Mr . Abbattista noted that both access roads are the same with each plan . Mr . Mazza commented on a triangular lot of base 200 ' and height 200 ' which would be a 20 , 000 sq . ft . lot , indicating that it looked a little weird . Mr . Fabbroni asked Mr . Abbattista to explain why the piece of land owned by the church was so strange . Mr . Abbattista explained that in a former proposed subdivision plan that they had , the then line was a curve in the road . He stated that that lot actually exists that way and was sold to the church . Mr . Fabbroni suggested splitting the difference with them . Mr . Mazza offered a suggestion as to the other lot near to it . Mr . May commented on some peculiar lots . Mr . Klein asked how many lots were possible with this plan . Mr . Abbattista stated that a total of 53 lots were possible on Plan 2 ( drive - through type ) . • Mr . Abbattista then referred to Plan 1 ( the cul - de - sac type plan ) and , indicating on the Plan , pointed out the various Planning Board - 10 - May 3 , 1983 . features . He commented that this Plan is a little cleaner up in the area near the Church property . The park in this plan is located at the far end of the area rather than in the middle . The Church property was discussed and also the land shown that the Church has first refusal on - - the land next to the park and down the side . Mr . Abbattista commented that if the Church wants it , they have to buy it at the going rate , if they do not take it , Mrs . Blatchley might give it away and use it as a tax write - off . She is a member of this particular church . A total of 57 lots are possible with Plan 1 . There was some comment on the funny lots , but Mr . Fabbroni noted that they are large lots . Mr . Klein pointed out on Plan 2 the strong connection between Slaterville Road and Honness Lane and which might become a short - cut for Eastwood Commons . Mr . Abbattista stated that they preferred Plan 1 because more lots were possible . Mr . May was concerned with the " cul - de - sac " plan insofar as there may be a snow removal problem . Mr . Fabbroni commented that the Board may be surprised to know that half of the roads in the Town are cul - de - sacs . Mr . Fabbroni brought down the aerial map of the area over which there was general discussion involving all the Board , Mr . Abbattista , and Mr . Fabbroni . . Chairman May commented that he preferred Plan 2 with the park in the middle . Mr . Mazza wondered what difference it made and Mr . Fabbroni described situations where property owners adjacent to a park begin the think of a park as " their park " . Mr . Stanton stated that he liked Plan 1 , the cul -de - sac plan , because there may be less through traffic . Mr . Abbattista stated that there was the possibility of adding two more lots in the cul - de - sac plan . Mr . Mazza preferred the cul - de - sac plan , also . Mr . Abbattista stated with Plan 1 the park would abutt the Church property which may be advantageous , otherwise , it would abutt residents ' backyards . Mr . Abbattista stated that their primary objective was to get approval on the first eight lots in order to be able to finance the rest of the project . He further stated that he may have a block buyer at the present time . This buyer is interested in purchasing Lots 4 - 8 and intends on building a home on each of these lots . The majority of the board was in favor of Plan 2 - - the cul - de - sac - type plan . • Chairman May described to Mr . Abbattista the procedure for moving ahead , noting that the proposed subdivision plans should Planning Board - 11 - May 3 , 1983 • be submitted to the Town Office for review by Mr . Fabbroni and for the scheduling of a public hearing . Mr . Abbattista asked to what extent these plans should be drawn . Chairman May stated that a SEQR Form should be completed and Mr . Fabbroni stated that a survey map of the eight lots , drainage plans for the remainder of the lots , and a commitment in writing for the park land based on 10 percent of what will be subdivided would be required . Mr . Fabbroni noted that the parkland commitment need not be a part of the eight lots . REPORT OF THE TOWN BUILDING INSPECTOR , LEWIS D . CARTEE The Building Inspector ' s Report of Building Permits Issued for the month of April 1983 had been received by the Planning Board members with their Agendae . Such report shows that 14 permits were issued in the month of April 1983 for $ 256 , 126 . 00 in total construction costs , as compared to 9 permits for $ 288 , 885 . 00 :in total construction costs in April 1982 . Mr . Cartee reported to the Board members that he had just received yesterday , May 2nd , notification from the New York State Division of :Housing and Community Renewal , under date of Friday , April 22 , 1983 , that the compliance date of the New York State Fire Prevention and Building Code for upgrading existing areas of public assembly has been changed from January 1 , 1985 , to January 1 , 1989 and , further , on that date this requirement would be . enforced only if financial assistance and incentives are made available to those who need to comply . Mr . Cartee also reported that the 1989 upgrading requirements have also been reduced so that smoke detectors will be the only new additions to areas of public assembly . Schools , camps , places of worship , ski lodges and other similar meeting places will not be required by the new Code to alter interior finish or to change exits . He also pointed out that , in addition , buildings used solely for agricultural purposes have been exempted from the Code . Mr . Cartee reminded that Board that in 1981 the Legislature mandated the formulation of a new Uniform Fire Prevention and Building Code to replace the present State Building Construction Code and the State Fire Prevention Code on January 1 , 1984 . SIGN REVIEW BOARD - DISCUSSION OF PROPOSED GASOLINE PRICE SIGNAGE AT JOHNNY ' S SUPER SERVICE , 1103 DANBY ROAD , ( NON - CONFORMING USE ) AND RECOMMENDATION TO ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS . John and Kim Klein ' s Appeal , dated 4 / 29 / 83 , read as follows : " Our location is such that it is difficult for passing traffic to see our gas prices . We depend on getting a major part of our service bay work from our gas customers . %We would like to post a 30 " x 46 " pole sign with our regular and unleaded gas prices . By having the prices posted , we could make the passing traffic aware of our competitive gas prices , and at the same time • generate the necessary bay work to support our business . " Planning Board - 12 - May 3 , 1983 • Mr . Cartee stated that this service station has been in this location for years ; it is a Business C Zone with a legal non- conforming Business D use . Mr . Cartee stated that the proposed sign serves a purpose and noted that the young couple who run the station are in the process of purchasing it . He commented that the Sign Law does not state very specifically that a business can or cannot keep adding to an existing free - standing sign ; therefore , this is why this matter has been brought to the Board ' s attention . Mr . Cartee noted that prices are allowed on gas pumps or on a portable sign and proceeded to read Section 3 . 03 - 1 of the Sign Law . Mr . Cartee pointed out that it is a 55 m . p . h . zone in this area and they need a sign that is visible , adding that this service station is the only gas station until the Town of Danby . He indicated that the sign they would like to be added would be placed over the State Inspection sign already there and which they are required to have . Chairman May asked how far above the ground this sign would be placed . Mrs . Klein stated that it would be such that it is eye level with the traffic . Mr . Cartee stated that the freestanding sign is 20 feet high and that someone would be able to walk under this sign with no problem since it will be over six feet off the ground . Mr . Cartee stated that there is 9 square feet of signage presently on the freestanding sign and they would be adding 9 . 56 square feet . Mr . Cartee read Section 5 . 03 - 1 which sets forth that a freestanding sign may contain 50 sq . ft . of • signage . MOTION by Mr . Montgomery May , seconded by Mr . Bernard Stanton : RESOLVED , that the Town of Ithaca Planning Board acting as the Sign Review Board consider and hereby does consider the proposed additional signage to an existing freestanding sign at Johnny ' s Super Service , 1103 Danby Road , Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No . 6 -• 43 - 2 - 1 , a legal , conforming , usage and as such does not require any further action . There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote . Aye - May , Mazza , Stanton , Schultz , Klein , Baker , Langhans . Nay - None . The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously . REVIEW AND DISCUSSION OF PROPOSED REVISIONS TO THE TOWN OF ITHACA SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS . With Mr . Fabbroni leading the discussion , the Planning Board Members reviewed , page by page , the April 27 , 1983 draft of the • proposed revisions to the Town of Ithaca Subdivision Regulations . No action was taken by the Board . Mr . Fabbroni will inform Mr . Lovi of the Board ' s suggestions upon his return . Planning Board - 13 - May 3 , 1983 ADJOURNMENT Upon Motion , the Chair declared the May 3 , 1983 meeting of the Town of Ithaca Planning Board duly adjourned at 10 : 15 p . m . Respectfully submitted , Nancy M . Fuller , Secretary , Town of Ithaca Planning Board .