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Home My WebLink AboutPB Minutes 1970-12-15 � .i TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD �\ December 15 , 1970 The regular meeting of the Town of Ithaca Planni }ng . Board was held Tuesday , December - 15 , 1970 , i -n the Town of Ithaca offices , 108 E . Green Street , Ithaca , New York . Present : Chairman Barbara Holcomb , Robert Scannell , Sam Slack , Fred SCott , Robert Christian- son , Reg Collins .;; Dan B. akcer - , Peter Francese ( Planning Consultant ) , and David Cowan ( Zoni. ng Officer ) . Also present were about 15 community., members . Approval of Minutes : The following amendments were .: made to the minutes of the November 24 , 1970 meeting : Paragraph five of pag,e 1 was changed -. to read " The minutes of - the - , October 20 , 1970 meeting were were - approv,ed ; as corrected . " The last sentence of paragraph six of page l was changed to read " There remains a question about this since the developers may have changed their plans and now might intend to also - coh - struct multiple residences . " Paragraph seven , page 1 , should read " It was decided that . .the Board would like an engineer ' s statement. . that sufficient '. water will be available and also an approval ; in writing from the Health Board . Barbara Holcomb recommended that Kennilworth obtain a definite statement . . . . " Paragraph nine , page 1 , should read " It was pointed out that when the Planning - Board recommends changing zoning -, that the pu,bl . ic assumes that - it � is on the basis of plans . that were presented to -the Board . Therefore , when . these plans are not adhered to ; the public feels there has been a breach of - faith . It was suggested that in the future , detailed plans and .- renderi -ngs . should not be presented when a zoning change is req 'uestedoto avoid future misunderstandings . " Paragraph one of page 2 changed to read " Barbara Holcomb volunteered to go through all the old minutes of- the Planning Board and Town Board to see - what procedur.- es .were: fol l owed on the Kenn "ilworth project . Page 2 , paragraph headed Cowan , . change from Ideman property to P & C property . The last line of page . two. was changed to read " Therefore , multiple residences cannot be built in this area . " - 2 - � - Page 3 , paragraph one , should read " 1 . 5 spaces pe-r unit will be required . " Paragraph five of page 3 should read " Peter France.se will request that before any action is taken , by the Town Board on this matter they refer it to the Planning.- Board - for our� reco.m � mendat-ion . The second paragraph of page 4 should read " Peter. Francese . reported on the new ruling that the co.un .ty . . planner must: approve any new zoning changes in a 500 ' strip bordering all sides -of . s, tate and county roads , state parks and institutions and boundaries of other municipalities . . . " Robert Christianson made amotim that the minutes Jo 'r the November 24 , 1970 meeting be approved as corrected . The motion was seconded by Reg Collins and ` unanaimously passed . Snowmobile Use : Robert McFall , a community snowmobil -.e operator , reported that railroad track right - of - ways a :nd Ithaca College trails could be used for riding snowmobiles and therefore he felt it was not necessary to have to ri- de on town roads . and highways . Roger Sovocool presented a plan for the development of a portion of the Roy M . Compton property on - 'South Hill. Sewer and . water is available on these lots that he proposes to develop . Thej and is presently zoned R - 30 , and he requests the : . Planning Board to grant a variance on lot size within the R - 30_' zone: � A motion was . . made by Reg Collins that a public- heari ng :..:. be held onx' Comp _ton ' s proposed eight lot subdivision at the January meeting of : the Planning Board . Sam Slack seconded the motion , and it was unanimously passed . Robert ' Scannell suggested that the property lines on the subdivision proposal of Compton ' s should be - perpendicular to the road . _. Sam Slack recommended that frontage requirements on this and other similar property developments should be made .14rge enough to take into account expansion in roads and bullding of sidewalks . . Kenni lworth A public hearing scheduled on the Kenn :i .lworth development . was c '` a public discussion was held for the purpose of clarifying the actions o'f the Planning - Bo.ard 1 .n- this development . Barbara Holcomb reported that she and Peter Frandese ' ha=d presentedthe county planner with a. , proposal to temporarily ,• correct the traffic hazard presented by the road situation of t�h;e Kennilworth development . ` It was reported that the Town Board feels it is the responsibility of the county to correct -;a:ny su. c:=h: road situations . - 3 - It °was reported that although it is conceivabl ' e . to control `- use of land by --setting up an architectural review board made up of Aead-.i ng citizens of a community , it is generally considered untonstitutional in most court cases . Mrs . Holcomb stated that all . . legal , action hats been taken in this development . The property has . :been rezoned and final ap .prov. aT was>v:,given for. .this phase of th° e Kennilworth development : Therefore -, the Planning Board has no jurisd. ietiom over such complaints concerning aesthetics of the ,. delvelnopment . A que, stion was raised concerning the Barnes property . It was reported that Kennilworth does not plan totkeep theoBarnes property for an historic site . The Planning Board cannot con - trol this use of land . . either . T. he:refore , it was� , recommend-ed , , that interested citizens should research the idea of . buyi . ng. this property and turning it into an historic site . I _t .was reported that there w::ill be =, � no . ` . further public . hearings on Kennilworth . Even th:o;ugh they have changed th4e source of water , the plan has not been changed and no new public hearing will be required . Robert Christianson made a motion .- to cancel-.. , the public hearing on Kennilworth that was scheduled forl.this meeting ( Decemberl5 , 1970 ) . Sam Slack seconded tie motion and it was unanimously passed . It s•ras . recommended that area residents contact county supervis_o,rs Bob Bruce . and>�>=Sam McNeil concerning the road situation crested by the ennilwort- h de'VelopmentL. snowmobile Ordinan.,ce! Discussion was held concerning snowmobi :� e legislation- : It was reported that the county does not... :plan to .open any of its: . roads ' ,for snowmobile:-._ use . Several quest ons were raised ° :concerning . Fprobl -- pis that will° be created if toirn : roads are opined for. sno.l:rraobile operation such as . the lia.bi�l'ity of the toVRIkT. if 'roads are not properly signed , and - 1he question of detemining if a snowmobile is registered and - carries , liability insurance . It was decided that , since no one has come to the Planning Board to . promote 'having roads open : for snowmobile operation ,- , the . Planning_ Boardywould recommend to the, Tol.Am Board that no further action be ta'�: en for . opening toiTn roads. for snovpmbbile operation . Bob - Christianson so moved . Tlpe -motion was seconded- ' by'. - Robert Scannen and una;imously passed . Vacancies on Planning -Boards` Discussion was held concerning. replacements for Robert Scannell wand Sam Slack whose=; to°rms are ` expiring . Fred Scott made a motion that we recommend Maurice Harris to the Town Board to . be appointed to . . . the Planning Board as a replacement for Robert°'' Scann.ell . . Dan Baker seconded the. motion , and it was unanimously passed , Discussion was then held concerning a replacement for . Sam Slack . It was decided - to try to recommend. someone from t'he Pirie Tree area . Mr . Slack volunteered to inquire about a re - placement , report , a suggestion of someone who Asnter..e:sted to Mrs . Holcomb . She will then poll the Planning='- Board by phone in order to make a recommendation to the . Town Board by the: end of this month . The meeting was adjourned att.10030 p . m . Respectfully- submitted , Charlene Lawson , Secretary u