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Home My WebLink About1994-09-20 - MP I Yr TOWN OF ULYSSES MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE SEPTEMBER 20 , 1994 TOWN HALL PRESENT : CO - CHAIRMAN : PETER PENNIMAN ; MEMBERS : RUTH KAHN , CATHERINE STOVER , JOANNE MOLINO , DAVID TYLER ; SECRETARY : ROXANNE SMITH The meeting came to order at 7 : 40 PM . TOWN OF HECTOR FLYER Ruth brought to the Members attention a flyer , that she had received from " concerned citizens " from the Town of Hector . This flyer proposes that the recent survey sent out to Town of Hector residents be abolished , along with their planning board . Ruth also • pointed out the return mailing features ( return address to the Hector Town supervisor , and lack of a staple or sticker to keep it folded ) . David said some Town of Ulysses residents could respond the same way to their survey . CHANGES TO SURVEY QUESTIONS Catherine reported that Doug Austic had one comment to offer regarding question number one . The first item " OPEN / AGRICULTURAL SPACE " , should be separated . Catherine agreed stating that your interpretation of open , and agricultural space , is not looked on as the same by a farmer . Peter stated that his understanding was that open space included agricultural . Technically it does , responded Catherine . After much discussion , the Members decided to separate the two . They will be as follows : Agricultural land , and Open space ( undeveloped ) . Question number three was addressed by Catherine . She questioned the point of mentioning tuition . The issue is trying to find out if people would like their property to be in another district , not about paying tuition . The Members decided to re - word the question to say : In which school district would you PREFER your property to be - Ithaca or Trumansburg ? ( Circle one ) Question number four came up for discussion . Peter would prefer to scratch the entire question . David stated that this question gets to the bedroom community issue . Peter said he thought the members were trying to establish that if there were jobs , a lot of people would prefer to work in the Town . The question really is , do we want to have economic development in the Town , to what extent , and what type . Most of the people who answer question four aren ' t going to be doing jobs that we can bring here anyway . David said the purpose of question four is to find out how many people say yes , they work in the Town of Ulysses . Catherine mentioned it would point out how many really are in the bedroom community . It would mean a need for more housing . The first part of question four was changed , to ask : TOWN OF ULYSSES MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE SEPTEMBER 20 , 1994 TOWN HALL D O YOU WORK IN : TOWN OF ULYSSES 2 ELSEWHERE IN TOMPKINS COUNTY OUTSIDE TOMPKINS COUNTY It was decided that the above question would be put on hold , u ntil there were more Members present . David noted that if they put in a preamble stating , if there were more employment o pportunities in the Town of Ulysses , and then asked where would you rather work - Town of Ulysses or Other ; you might find that 1 people would prefer to work at home but would not want to see the development that would make that possible . He queried that didn ' t that answer get to the policy , that people ' s preferences to keep the place they live in the same , has resulted in their making a ® specific choice . They ' re weighing a big desire to work closer to home versus changing the character of the Town by offering more employment opportunities . If you don ' t have the preamble to the question you will get a blind response , said Joanne . If you do you ' ll get a weighted response . P eter has tried to get information for the map committee ✓ egarding unique natural areas and protected areas from the County . They won ' t be done until late October . Due to that , Peter had slowed down his approach . Perhaps it will be necessary to review what the plan is for the whole project . David would like to see the survey completed in one month . To arrive at the Town resident ' s opinions on development , the Members came up with the following questions : 5a . WOULD YOU PREFER TO SEE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IMMEDIATELY ALONG THE ARTERIAL HIGHWAYS ( STRIP ) OR CONCENTRATED OFF THE ARTERIAL HIGHWAYS ( CLUSTER ) . S TRIP CLUSTER 58 . PLEASE IDENTIFY AREAS THAT YOU FEEL ARE APPROPRIATE FOR D EVELOPMENT : H IGH LOW D EN DEN BUS RES RES NONEx DUDDLESTON PROPERTY ( SEE MAP LOCATION ) AUBLE PROPERTY E TC . The Members will need to expand their list for possible development ( Commercial , High and Low Density Residential ) at the n ext meeting . The land use map might prove to be helpful . David said , somewhere it should be stated that when we say Commercial we mean Business and High Density Residential . The Members decided it was important to address areas that should remain protected , areas that should remain agricultural , and areas that should remain open . Peter volunteered to check out how TOWN OF ULYSSES r r ' MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE SEPTEMBER 20 , 1994 TOWN HALL 3 the Town of Ithaca ' s Plan handled the above . ROUTE 96 / PERRY CITY ROAD The Deans have withdrawn their request for the gas station / convenience store on Rt . 96 . It was discovered that the zoning map and the legal description that accompanied it are contradictory . Evidently this occurs frequently . The zoning map said it was a business district and the narrative said it wasn ' t . NEXT MEETINGS The next meeting dates for the Master Plan Committee will be September 27th , October 4th , and October 18th . The meeting adjourned at 9 : 45 PM . i TOWN OF ULYSSES MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE S EPTEMBER 20 , 1994 TOWN HALL REVISED SURVEY QUESTIONS 1 . How do you value the qualities / SOME features in the Town of ULysses ? VERY WHAT NOT Please rate the following : IMPT . IMPT . IMPT . IMPT . AGRICULTURAL LAND O PEN SPACE ( UNDEVELOPED ) ® THE VILLAGE OF TRUMANSBURG H ISTORIC STRUCTURES OUTDOOR RECREATION / PARKS SHOPPING COMMERCIAL / PROFESSIONAL SERVICES SMALL TOWN ATMOSPHERE VOLUNTEER / COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES SENSE OF COMMUNITY S CHOOL CHURCH OTHER COMMENTS 2 . Change is inevitable over the SOME n ext ten years . Do you see a MUCH NEEDED WHAT NOT n eed for the following : NEEDED NEEDED NEEDED COMMUNITY RECREATIONAL FACILITIES S ENIOR HOUSING OFFICE / PROFESSIONAL SPACE MAINTAINING OPEN SPACE TOURISM H IGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL P LANNED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT L IGHT INDUSTRY / BUSINESS PARK ® LARGE SHOPPING AREA SMALL SHOPPING AREA LOCAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES ( within Town ) P UBLIC WATER P UBLIC SEWER . PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION TV / ELECTRONIC CABLE O THER COMMENTS TOWN OF ULYSSES 2 MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE SEPTEMBER 20 , 1994 TOWN HALL REVISED SURVEY QUESTIONS CON . 3 . Do you live in the Ithaca or Trumansburg School District ? ( Circle one ) In which school district would you PREFER your property to be : Ithaca Trumansburg ( Circle one ) ® 4 . Do you work in : Town of Ulysses Elsewhere in Tompkins County Outside Tompkins County Where would you rather work ? Town of Ulysses Other ( specify ) 5a . Would you prefer to see Commercial development immediately along the arterial highways ( strip ) or concentrated off the arterial highways ( cluster ) ? Strip Cluster ( Circle one ) 5b . Please identify areas that you feel are appropriate for development : HIGH LOW DEN . DEN . BUS . RES . RES . NONE Duddleston Property ( next to Smith Woods ) Auble Property Include List * Future last question of survey : ® Are you a Town of Ulysses resident ? YES NO How long have you lived / or owned property in the Town ? YEARS . Please specify the sector ( s ) in which you reside or own property . ( Refer to attached map of Town of ULysses . )