HomeMy WebLinkAbout1976 Town BudgetPUBLIC HEARING HELD ON 10/22/75 AT 7:30 P.M.
IN REGARD TO THE TOWN BUDGET,
PRESENT: Robert Blatchley
Christine Canestaro
Donald Eaton
Ronald Fish
Sherman Griswold
Ray Miller
Mary Fowler Bush, Stenographer
MR. BLATCHLEY: I would like to ask our Town Clerk to
read the official notice as printed in our paper.
LEGAL NOTICE READ BY CHRISTINE CANESTARO:
LEGAL NOTICE, TOWN OF CORTLANDVILLE, NOTICE IS HEREBY
GIVEN that the Preliminary Budget of the Town of Cortland-
ville and the Preliminary Budgets for Water District No. 1,
Water District No. 2,'Water District No: 3 and Sewer District
No. 1 for the Fiscal year beginning January;l, 1976 have been
completed and filed in the Office of the Town Clerk at 15
Terrace Rd. in said Town of Cortlandville, where they are
available for inspection by any interested person during
regular office hours. ,
FURTHER NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the Town Board of
the Town of Cortlandville will meet and review said Prelimi-
nary Budget and hold a Public Hearing thereon, in the Town
Hall 15 Terrace Rd. in said Town at 7:30 P. m. on October 22,
1975 and that at such hearing any person may be heard in
favor of or against the preliminary budget as compiled or for
or against any item or items therein contained.
Pursuant to section 113 of the Town Law the proposed
salaries of elected Town Officers are hereby as follows:
Supervisor $ 8,000
Justice - Full Time 13,500
Justice 2,200
Councilman 1,600
Councilman 1,600
Town Clerk 9,950
Highway Superintenden*1,500
By Order of the Town Board
Christine Canestaro
Town Clerk
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MR. BLATCHLEY: Now this is a hearing and we will not be taking
` final action tonight. We are here for public opinion and we will be
taking final action at one of our two meetings in November. The final
budget does have to be approved by November 20. Now how I would like to
proceed on this is to read the item in the budget readings 1975 budget
figure and the preliminary 1976 budget figure. And I'll try to go slow
enough so it can be understood and comprehended. We will start with
page 2. The Town Board personal services $3,000.00, $3,200.00. Con-
tractual expense $200.00, $200.00. Totals $3,200.00, $3,400.00. Didn't
I make it clear that I'll read the item and the first figure is the 1975
figure and the second would be 1976. Is that clear? I thought I stated
that. Justices $18,950.00, $22,200.00. Contractual $3,500.00,
$3,500.00. Total for justices $22,450.00, $25,700.00. Supervisor
personal service $9,750.00, $8,000.00. Contractual expense $1,000.00,
$1,000.00. Total $10,750.00, $9,000.00. Tax collection $500.00,
$500.00. Total $500.00, $500.00. Budget officer $1,000.00, $1,250.00.
Total $1,000.00, $1,250.00. Page 3 assessor personal service $12,000.00
$12,000.00. Now under equipment we have a possible sircerary served
upon us or a sircerary has been served upon us. We may have to have a
court fee appraisal so it would be 0 under A1355.4 as an added figure in
anticipating possibly a court cost there of court fee. We have added
$2,000.00 in there in case we do have to go to Court on this. Con-
tractual 'expense $2,000.00, $1,000.00. Totals $14,000.00, $15,000.00.
Town Clerk personal service $14,000.00, $14,750.00. Contractual
$1,200.00, $1,250.00. Total $15,200.00, $16,000.00. Attorney $6,600.00,
$6,850.00. Contractual $200.00, $200.00. Totals $6,800.00, $7,050.00.
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Personnel personal services, this includes the most of the expense for
Renee, Renee Bilodeau who is our Town Bookkeeper. $3,100.00, $5,650.00.
Contractual expense $200.00, $200.00. Totals $3,300.00, $5,850.00.
Elections personal services $3,300.00, $3,725.00. Equipment $2,000.00,
$500.00. Contractual expense $400.00, $400.00. Totals $5,700.00,
$4,625.00. Buildings personal service $300.00, $300.00. Equipment
$600.00, $600.00. Contractual expense $4,500.00, $8,000.00. Totals
$5,400.00, $8,900.00. The major reason for my going from $4,500.00 to
$8,000.00 is for the maintenance of our new municipal building on West
Road. Central printing this is for envelopes, our supplies $1,750.00,
$2,000.00. The total is the same. Special items unallocated insurance
$5,450.00, $6,000.00. Municipal association dues $300.00, $350.00.
Property tax on our new building $800.00. Totals $5,750.00, $7,150.00.
Page 5 traffic control mostly for highway signs $600.00, $600.00. Total:
$600.00 and $600.00. Control of animals is for the SPCA $3,300.00,
$3,600.00. $3,300.00 and $3,600.00. Total is public safety $3,900.00,
$4,200.00. Pay salary we have not signed a contract with the ambulance
service as yet. We have been told by other town officials we should add
at least ten per cent to the last figure to get an approximate cost. We
ii have added more than ten per cent. It is $12,500.00 to $15,000.00.
Total $12,500.00 and $15,000. Total of health $12,500.00, $15,000.00.
Transportation superintendent of highways salary personal services
$11,000.00, $11,500.00. Contractual expense $200.00, $200.00. The
garage maintenance to the county garage $5,000.00, $5,650.00. Total
$5,000.00, $5,650.00. Total cost for transportation services $16,200.00,
$17,350.00. Town Historian $100.00, $100.00. .Totals the same.
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Celebrations $170.00, $1,170.00. This is a $1,000.00 given is the bi-
centennial celebration. Total being the same $170.00 and $1,170.00.
Total for culture recreation $270.00, $1,270.00 this year.
Environmental commission that we now have $100.00 total
$110.00. Beautification $100.00, $100':.00. Total $100.009
$100.00. Cemetary upkeep $340.00, $350.00. Total same
$340.00, $350.00. The total for home and community service
is $440.00, $550.00. Employee benefits page 12 yes. Employee
benefits retirement $15,000.00, $22,000.00. Social Security
$6,200.00, $7,800.00. Workman's compensation $6,000.00,
$6,000.00. Hospital and medical insurance.$2,900.00,
$4,300.00. Totals $30,100.00, $40,100;-,00. Transfer to the
highway fund $15,000.00, $17,000.00. Totals $15,000.00,
$17,000.00. The total of general fund appropriations at the
bottom of page 13 this will be transferred to the first page
$174,210.00, $201,895.00. Page 14 in'terest and penalties
on real estate taxes $900.00, $1,000.00. Clerk fees $700.00,
$1,000.00. Page 15 interest earnings $3,500.00, $4,500.00.
Rental of property $500.00, $500.00. I can't remember what
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MR. FISH: That is the town the new municipal garage.
MR. BLATCHLEY: Oh right. Dog license fund $1,200.00,
$1,500.00. Fines and forfeitures from our Town Justice Court
$18,500.00, $20,000.00. Page 16 total estimated revenue from
local sources $24,800.00, $28,500.00. State aid per capita
aid $42,627.00, $47,852.00. Mortgage tax income $17,000.001
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$20,000.00. Total estimated from state sources $59,627.00,
$67,852.00. Federal aid $84,427.00, $96x352.00. Estimated
unexpended balance at the end of the year $15,000.00,
$17,000.00. Engineering Contract Mr. Rowell is $3,200:00,
$3,200.00. Unallocated insurance $11,750.00, $2,100.00.
Making a total of $4,950.00 and $5,300.00. Registrar of
vital statistics $50.00, $36.00. Contractual expense $30.00.
Total $50.00 and $66.00. Highway lighting $14,000.00,
$20,000.00. Playgrounds and recreation $1,000.00, $1,300.00.
Total $1,000.00, $1,300.00. Recreation contractual expense
$3,500.00, $3,200.00. Total $3,500.00 and $3,200.00. Librar';r
and this is for the library in Cortland in McGraw, $16,500.00
$17,500.00. Zoning officer expense $660.00, $5,,,660.00. This
is largely a salary expense of our zoning officer Mr. Fowler.
Equipment 0 and $600.00. Contractual expense $1,100.00,
$2,500.00. Totals $1';760.00, $8,760.00. The planning board
$780.00, $1,440.00, personal services. Contractual expense
$1,000.00, $1,990.00. For totals,of $1,780.00, $3,430.00.
Undistributed,;,$5,300.00, $89250.00. This is for the town
outside of the Village of McGraw.anow. Social security
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$2,100.00, $2,800.00. Workmens compensation $2,810.42,
$2;788'.91. Hospital and medical insurance $900.00, $1,200.00
Total undistributed funds for the town outside the Village of
McGraw is $11,110.42, $15,038.91. Undistributed money going
to the highway fund $45,000.00, $55,000.00. Total $45,000.00,
$55,000.00. Appropriations for the town outside the village
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$99,650.42, $129,594.91. "Revenues outside of the village
non -property tax $45,000.00, $55,,0.00..00. <Zoning fees from
Mr. Fowler $3,000.00, $3,000.00. Interest and earnings
$3,500.00, $3,500.00. ;Total estimated revenues from local
sources $51,500.00, $61,500.00. State aid for outside the
village again $35,131.00, $39,438.00. Youth programs
$1,000.00 and $1,600.00. Total estimated revenues from
state aid outside $36,131.00, $41,038.00. Total for page 1
for these revenues $87,631.00, $102,538.00. Estimated
unexpended balance $12,019.42, $27,056.91. If you look at
the figures on the front page at the end. Highway appro-
and r``e,,��airs personal services
priation"$28,000.00, $31,000.00. Contractual expense
$46,000.00, $51,000.00. Total for highway repairs $74,000.00,
$82,000.00. Total on the bottom of 23 highway repairs again
$74,000.00, $82,000.00. Bridges $3,000.,00 for personal
services and $3,000.00. Contractual expense $2,000.00,
$2,000.00. A total of $5,000.00, $5,000.00. On page 25 the
$5,000.00 will be transferred to page 1. Highway machinery
$26,000.00 page 26, $26,000,:00, $28,000.00. Equipment
$40,000.00, $43,000.00. Contractual expense $16,000.00,
$17,000.00. Totals $82,000.00, $88,000.00. Totals on the
end of page 27 for highway machinery expense of $82,000.00
moved to $88,000.00 in 76. Snow and miscellaneous for high-
way we control brush and weed control, $2,500.00, $2,500.00.
Contractual expense $100.00, $100.00. A total of $23600.00,
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$2,600.00. ,Snow removal personal services $27,500.00,
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$30,000.00. Contractual expense $16,000.00, $16,000.00.
Totals $43,500.00, $4.6,000.00. Total for highway snow and
miscellaneous page 29 $46,100:00 moved to $48,600.00.
Revenue interest and earnings for highway $1,000.00 increased
to $2,000.00. Transfer tory-,.a highway fund from the town
outside the village $45,000.00 in 75 and $55,000.00 in 1976•
Mileage aid $4,700.00, $4,700.00. Total estimated revenues
$50,700.00, $61,700.00. Bridges estimated expense are
revenues $2,000.00 and $2,000.00 on page 32.
MR. EATON: Unexpended balance.
MR. BLATCHLEY: What?
MR. EATON: Unexpended balance.
MR. BLATCHLEY: Okay. Interest and earnings on machinery
$1,000.00 and $2,000.00. Transfer from the general fund
$15,000.00, $17,000.00. Total $16,000.00, $19,000.00.
Total estimated unexpended balance $6,100.00, $8,500.00.
Federal revenue sharing for the town building this is new
so there.is not a 1975. We appropriate $8,000.00 in 1976.
Public transportation $35,000.00 in 75. $35,000.00 in 76.
Totals $35,000.00, $35,000.00. Total appropriations
$50,000.00, $43,000.00. The $15,000.00 for the bridge in
75 but obviously will not be in the 76. Estimated revenues
and unexpended balance we are on page 36 $1,000.00, $500.00.
Federal revenue sharing $37,000.00, $37,500.00. Total
estimated revenues $38,000.00, $38,000.00. Estimated
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unexpended balance $12,000.00 and $5,000.00. Water District
Number 1 personaleservices $1,800.00, $2;150.00. Contractual
expense $450.00, $300.00. Totals $21,250,00, $2,450.00.
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Source of supply and now we have a ;figure,therev0 in 1975
and $55,000.00 in 1976. This is the anticipated cost of
putting in the pump andhooking up the '- 'to our water
system. Contractual expense $8,000.00, $8,000.00. Total
$8,000.00,$63,000.00. Purification of water contractual
expense $150,00 to $200.00. Totals $150.00 and $200.00.
Personal services for water district number one $9,500.00,
$10,450.00. Equipment there was no 1975 but $10,000.00
represents,z! two third's of the cost of a new back hoe.
Contractual expense $17,000.00, $35,000.00. Totals $26,500,03,
$55,450.00. Undistributed $1,500.00, $2,000.00 and that is
the state retirement. Social security $950.00, $1,100.00.
Total for undistributed expenses $2,450.00, $3,100.00. Bond
expense undistributed $10,000.00 1975, $10,000.00 1976 totals
the same. Debt interest $6,342.50, $5,962.50. Total interest
expense the same as before $6,342.50, $5,962.50. Total water
appropriations water district number one $55,692.50,
$140,162.50. Revenues for water district one metered sales
$38,000.00, $40,000.00. Unmetered sales $5,400.00, $5,000.00.
Water connection charges $2,250.00, $1,200.00. Interest and
penalties on water rents $150.00, $250.00. Interest and
earnings $3,200'c00, $1,000.00. That is being depleted quite
largely of our new well and pump installation.
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MR. ERAUKLIS: You don't have anymore money invested in
this.
MR. BLATCHLEY: Right. .In"water district numb one.
True. Reimbursement by the State $34,300.00, now this is
money to be reimbursed on the relocation of lands on McLean
Road and Route 281. Total water district'number one revenues
$49,800':00, $81,750.00. Unexpended balance $692.50,
$51,412.50. Water district number two personal services
this is for part of the salaries the Walkers I believe
primarily and secretarial help okay, none was put in for 1975
$337.50 in 1976. Contractual expense $20.00, $30.00. And
totals would be $20.00 Vs. $367.50. Source of supply con-
tractual expense $1,100.00, $1,100.00. Totals the same.
Transmission and distribution personal services is $100.00
and $100.00. Totals the same. Total water district number
two appropriations $1,220.00, $1,567.50. Revenues from water
district number two $1.;220.00, $1,220.00 and additional $40.0(,)
added this year for interest and earnings so it would be
$1,220.00 Vs. $1,260.00 in 1976. Unexpended balance $307.50.
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Water District number three personal services $462.50. Con-
tractual expense $40.00, $40.00. Totals of $40.00, $502.50.
Source of supply power and pumping contractual expense
$1,000.00, $1,000.00. Totals $1,000.00, $1,000.00. Trans-
mission and distribution personal services $400.00, $400.00.
Contractual $2,000.00 and $1,000.00. Totals $2,400.00 and
$1,400.00. Total appropriations for district number three
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$3,440.00 Vs. $2,90'2.,.50. Revenues for district number three
metered sales $1,000.001 $1,200.00. Unmetered sales
$1,440.00, $1,440.00. Totals $3,440.00 Vs. $2,640.00.
Unexpended balance added this year $262.50. Fire protection
to contract with McGraw and Homer, $37,811.00, $48,811.00.
Totals the same. Sewer district number one personal services
$600.00, $850.00. Contractual expense $250.00, $100.00.
Sewage collection personal services $4,740.00, $5,400.00.
Equipment $5,000.00 that is the remainder which we eventually
expect to put in the back hoe. There is $10,000.00 in notes
from water district number one and there is $5,000.00 of that
in the sewer making $15,000.00 difference to the back -,hoe.
Contractual expense $4,800.00, $4,800.00. Totals $9,540.00
Vs. $15,200.00. Undistribute+ ompensation $600.00, $600.00.
Hospital and medical insurance $450.00, $600.00. Totals
$1,050.00 Vs. $1,200.00. Undistributed funds in the water
district number one sewer district, $7,000.00, $7,000.00.
Totals $7,000.00 and $7,000.00. This is bond expense. D:6bt
service for sewer bonds $3,589.00, $3,330.00. Now there are
two sets of bonds, two sets of bonds.
MR. FRAUKLIS: No interest.
MR. BLATCHLEY: Interest. Okay I am sorry. Total sewer
district appropriations $22,029.00, $27,680.00. Sewer
revenues'sewer'rents $5,300.00', $5,500.00. Sewer charges
$14,175.00, $14,175.00. Interest and earnings from sewer
district money $1,250.00, $1:;250.00. Total estimated revenue
is $20,725.00, $20,925.00. Unexpended balance $1,304.00,
$6,755.00. And on page 57 are the salaries of the elected
officers of the town. Supervisor $8,000.00. Full time
Justice $13,500.00. Town Justice $2,200.00. Two Councilmen
at $1,600.00 each, $3,200.00. Town Clerk $9,950.00. Highway
Superintendent $11,500.00. Now I feel I can answer most of
the questions on this. If not, I will call on the two people
that have helped the most with this budget our present book-
keeper Renee Bilodeau and our former bookkeeper Mr. Rudy
Krauklis. We can't let you go Rudy. He was a former town
bookkeepver. The totals on page one have all been referred
to during the reading. Do you want these all read? Okay.
General fund appropriations $201895.00 less estimated
revenues of $96,352.00 less the unexpended balance of
$17,000.00, amount to be raised by tax $88,543.00. For the
town outside the village appropriations $129,594.91 less
estimated revenues of $102,538.00 less unexpended balance of
$27,056.91 resulting in no tax. Highway repairs and improve-
ments $82,000.00 the estimated revenue is $61,700.00 amount
to be raised by tax $20,300.00. Bridges $5,000.00 no revenue
unexpended balance is $2,000.00 amount to be raised by tax is
$3,000.00. Machinery $88,000.00, $19,000.00 estimated revenu:
no unexpended balance to be used, $69,000.00 to be raised by
taxes. Snow and miscellaneous expense $48,600.00, no reve-
nues, unexpended, balance $8,500.00, amount,to be raised by
tax $40,100.00. Federal revenue sharing funds $43,000.00
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revenue is $38,000.00, unexpended balance of $5,000.00 of
course there is no tax on that. A total for the general
• budget outside the districts is $5983089.91, estimated
revenues of $317.590.00, unexpended balance to be used
$59,556.91, leaving a total to be raised by taxes
$220,943.00. Water District number one $140.162.50, esti-
mated revenues $81.750.00, unexpended
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used
$51,412.50,
amount to be raised by tax
$7,000.00.
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district number two $1,567.50, appropriation $1,260.00 in
revenues effected, unexpended balance $307.50 with no tax.
Water district number three $2,902.50, estimated revenue is
$2,640.00, using an unexpended balance of $262.50, leaving
no tax. Sewer district number one $27,680.00, an estimated
revenue of $20,925.00, using an unexpended balance of
$6,755.00, and no tax. Fire protection $48,81100 and
no revenues no expended balance, $48,811.00. For a grand
total budget%of $819,213'141, total revenues $424,165.00,
unexpended balance to be used $118,294.41, amount to be
raised by taxes $276.754.00. Now do you have those tax rates.
The tax for the whole town comes to -$4.11. The fire tax come.3
to $.99. The water district is $x:58. And the McGraw village
pays $3.69. These are in the rounded figures. I can carry
them out if you want,, -..me to carry them out farther.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: That was three dollars and what?
WE. BLATCHLEY: For McGraw?
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Yes.
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MR. BLATCHLEY: Actually it is $3.70, 3.69.9. It is
$3.70. Yes Ray?
MR. MILLER: What was that, four something?
MR. BLATCHLEY: $4.11. That is the general town tax.
That is an increase in slightly less than three cents over the
other for�1975. Fire tax is $.19,cents more, water tax is
$47 -more, and the village tax is not $.12, $.13 cents more.
Are there general questions or any questions on the budget?
MR. ART VANDEMARK: Are there two more meetings and then
there will be another budget hearing and then it will be an
adopted meeting or something?
MR. BLATCHLEY:,"� We can have another hearing, I just
checked on that Art. If there are no serious objections to
this we will probably adopt this at the first meeting in
November. If there are serious objections to this and if
it results in an increase, we do have to have another hearing.
MR. VANDEMARK: Can I ask a question on whether water
district one would be appropriated at $55,000.00'last year
and you have $51,000.00 unexpended balance. Could you explain
that?
MR. BLATCHLEY: This is what we use this surplus that we
had to use we had $101,000.00 total in water district number
one which at the beginning.of the year and we have used a
higher portion or sum for the well costing $12,000.00,
$15,000.00.
MR. VANDEMARK: Last year you appropriated $55,000.00.
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Where did the extra money come from?
MR. BLATCHLEY: From a surplus that was left over.
MR. KRAUKLIS: I could explain. We realize that when
we are working that somehow sooner or later there is going to
be some big changes to make when we need the money. That has
slowly been accumulated and the interest and you have a
$1,000.00 unexpended balance accumulated. And now this
is getting used up so we are paying for the taxpayers.
MR. VANDEMARK: Well there is no figure of a surplus
figure there. I am wondering where the figure came from. I
understand where it came from I am just uncertain what that
amount is.
MR. KRAUKLIS: It comes from different papers. The
Supervisor's report for 1974.
MR. VANDEMARK: It shows up.
MR. BLATCHLEY: Yes we give a report each month on the
balance of each account.
MR. KRAUKLIS: That would be each one not surplus. That
is unexpended balance shows only on January 1. When you
close your books and what is left.
MR. PALM: How did your unexpended balance this year
compare to your unexpended balance last year? How did your
unexpended balance this year compare to your unexpended bal-
ance last year?
MR. BLATCHLEY: It is considerably more. I don't have
last year's figures in front of me.
MR. KRAUKLIS: This year we don't have any unexpended
balance Bob.
MR. BLATCHLEY: We don't have any.
MR. KRAUKLIS: The unexpended balance is going to show
up only January or December. Twelve o'clock midnight on
December 31.
MR. BLATCHLEY: No what he is asking though, I think
what you really want to know Delmer is the total of the
$118,000.00 on the bottom of page one the total of unexpended
balance used Ys.:Tast°year?isn'tsit? :;; -,
MR. PALM: Yes that is right. This is on $48,000.00
last year. Yes 615. So you have a very high unexpended
balance this year then.
MR. BLATCHLEY: Yes, yes. Well we are primarily in the
low. You see this well if it goes to the to Expense that
our engineer estimated, it could go to $90,000.00.
MR. PALM: Well no I don't think I am asking that ques-
tion. Anyway this year you have $118,000.00 right?
MR. BLATCHLEY: Right.
MR. PALM: Now the last year you had what 40?
MR. FISH: We only use 40 Del. We only used. That is
less the unexpended balance of last year. We only used 40.
MR. PALM: That is right.
MR. FISH: This year we are using $118,000.00.
MR. PALM: Oh okay.
MR. FISH: Okay? All right.
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MR. PALM: Well I'guess the real question would be what
MR. BLATCHLEY: What's the difference, he wants to know
what the difference value...
MR. PALM: No. What is left over. To find out what
your actual surplus is and that doesn't show up on here. Do
you know what your actual surplus is or not?
MR. KRAUKLIS: They don't know but the unexpended on
January 1 when you close your books it shows something in
the bank for January 1 you have got a deposit again January 1 let's say
a certain amount of money let's say $50,000.00 now in books shows up in
two amounts. Unexpended balance and checks. The balance of $50,000.00.
That is not much difference -according to the town law unexpended balance
and the surplus monies could be used for any legal town business. The
various monies shows up in January 1. For instance let's say the town
would receive all the income from oh let's say 317 estimated revenues
from 317 in the budget for this year in 1975. And now there it is in
the state. I would say so much from the justice of the peace will you
get $20,000.00. But up to this time you have received only $50,000.00
up to this time. So the $30,000.00 is not yet the justice money and
when that much money shows up when you have over $370,000.00. So this
is surplus money. You can only provide for it in the budget. Put
actual items out.
MR, PALM: So the only money that you could say that would be your
would be
surplusVabsolutely for sure would be January 1?
MR. KRAUKLIS: Oh about a week or two later.
MRS. FISH: Well for instance if you have a big storm for snow
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MR.9KRAUKLIS: No that isn't it. You see at the end of the year
you have a lapse and it generally does. January 1 snow storm that goes
to money received. And if money is received from 75 then that is the
unexpended balance. And it can't be touched without the direction of thf:
Town Board.
MR. PALM: If it snows January 1, 1976 does that have to be out?
MR. KRAUKLIS: Last year and it shows up usually. You hardly made
it you really don't need you need snow removal. But you see right now
it shous up in snow in snow and the unexpended balance for last year it
is what is appropriated for snow removal.
MR. BLATCHLEY: Is it not correct to say that the increase on the
unexpended balance is caused quite largely by the additional money used
needed for the development of the well, is this correct?
MR. PALM: You mean last years money unexpended?
MR. BLATCHLEY: Well legally you have used more this year than we
had last year.
MR. FISH: Well we appropriated from previous years. We were
hoping to get the tax rate down. And we knew this was how it was done.
MR. PALM: The well is charged to what water district?
MR. FISH: Number one.
MR. VANDEMARK: Are they put on at all?
MR. BLATCHLEY: Number three is.
MR. VANDEMARK: They don't carry at all?
MR. BLATCHLEY: Number two is the city water. That is the one that
is up by Crestwood Court up in that area.
MR. VANDEMARK: You are putting funds of that source on page 18
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recreational funds you spent $71.64.,t,,But the budget shows there was
$1,300.00 appropriated for...
MR. BLATCHLEY: Now wait a minute what page are we on?
MR. VANDEMARK: Page 18.
MR. BLATCHLEY: Page 18.
MR. VANDEMARK: You appropriated $1,300.00 that year you spent
$71.64 total. The balance of that money went where?
MR. MILLER: That was in 74,
MR, BLATCHLEY: It went back into unexpended balance.
MR. VANDEMARK: Unexpended balance?
MR. BLATCHLEY: Yes. Any money that is not spent by the end of
the year just reverts back to the unexpended balance.
MR. VANDEMARK: Okay. Another question, you are the budget officer.
is that correct?
MR. BLATCHLEY: Yes.
MR. VANDEMARK: If I get down to one point which I am very sur-
prised more people aren't here arguing and hollering. There seems to
be a $300.00 increase from last year for the budget officer, a 25 per
cent increase for the budget officer this year. Also pertaining to the
justice he is getting a 22.7 increase in wages. That is a little
excessive I believe in the present situation don't you think?
JUDGE EATON: I would like to allude to that if you would like me
to. As of the lst of September the justice load has increased consi-
derably and if it continues for the next three months the way it has all
year, the total increase will be 42 per cent over last'year. Increase
in work load'.
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MR. VANDEMARK: I appreciate that fact,but we have two town jus-
tices, isn't that right?
MR. EATON: Right.
MR. VANDEMARK: I mean I am not against the fact that the justice
should have a raise, I won't argue with that, but I was given a three
per cent raise from my company and the cost of living is still going to
be under half of what he is going to receive.
MR. BLATCHLEY: On my own...
MR. VANDEMARK: My opinion as a taxpayer is there is no excuse for
it, but I am sure he does a good job.
MR. BLATCHLEY: Well I think so too. I have observed his work and
he is here many, many hours a°day.
MR. VANDEMARK: Well I am available 24 hours a day 7 days a week
myself. It appears to be acceptable.
MR. BLATCHLEY: On the Budget Officer and Supervisor this year an
across the board increases were a little bit less around 10 per cent,
but I didn't take the 10 per cent myself.r
MR. VANDEMARK: No I noticed the other board members took basically
around 5 or less.
MR. BLATCHLEY: Took what?
MR. VANDEMARK: The percentage of raise was no more than was
basically 5 or less.
MR. BLATCHLEY: And my own was about 7 per cent or something like
that 6 or 7 per cent.
MR. VANDEMARK: That is a reasonable figure. I mean the taxpayers
expect to pay a reasonable figure.
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MR. BLATCHLEY: Yes right.
MR. VANDEMARK: But I mention these two increases=,in particular the
Budget Officer and the Justice it doesn't appear to be acceptable.
JUDGE EATON: I would like to allude once more toathat. The hours
per month have increased to about 300 for Town Justice. Work hours.
MR. VANDEMABK: A single Town Justice?
JUDGE EATON: The pay is'excessive,'the work is'excessive. And as
of the 1st of September they added to us.another part of a Court a
Small Claim's Court.
MR. VANDEMABK: I understand that has been added.
JUDGE EATON: It has got to be added to it. And there is a lot of
work to it.
MR, VANDEMARK: It is once a week or something?
JUDGE EATON: Well it has to be held at least every so often.
MR. VANDEMARK: I.am talking about another Town Justice who meets
once a week.
MR. EATON: It is a requirement but you can hold it
whenever you want. But it must be at least, you -must make it
available every certain period of time.
MR. VANDEMARK: No I do appreciate that fact. But we do
have two Town Justices. And there are other Justices avail-
able in the area. I have talked to other Justices and they
they couldn't find a
have come clear from Syracuse when V)Justice in the Town of
North Syracuse who will come to the Tully area. _I appreciate
Ctihe'workload'_but ` `still the work load is on every-
body. At Smith Corona the college or anywheres else. They
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all are expected to work from 8 to 8 and take a 5 per cent
raise or in the case of he got a $250.00 bonus and
lots of luck.
MR. BLATCHLEY: Well I tell you Art to be very candid
about the whole salary situation, I have a so+hat works for
the state and he got this year a $250.00 bonus and that was
it. So when it came to salaries I figured we could do one of
two or three things. Give 0 or $250.00 average, or $500.00
average. And I finally realized that even the $500.00 would
be minimal on some of our salaries.
MR. VANDEMARK: I am not arguing on the salaries of the
entire board. I am only arguing with the salaries that I
quoted one is 25 per cent and the other is 22.7.
MR. BLATCHLEY: Yes right. But on the little more
defense on the personal service of Budget Officer I feel that
I am more and -more becoming involved in more and more
responsible for the town budget than I ever was before. And
it seems to me that it is a big expense and a big responsi-
bility.
MR. VANDEMARK: Exactly. It is not a large sum of money,
But it is 25 per cent and that is...
MR. BLATCHLEY: No percentage wise it looks big I know.
MR. VANDEMARK: But from $11,000 to $13,500 is a large
sum of money.
JUDGE EATON: Well Art I can't justify it any more than
to say, I can't anymore than say that it took about half of
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the workload.
MR. BLATCHLEY: You realize that he does bring back an
estimated $20,000.00 next year to the town.
MR. VANDEMARK: Yes.
MR. BLATCHLEY: Art we have answered the best we can I
believe.
MR. VANDEMARK: I would,bring up my personal opinion as
a taxpayer.
MR. BLATCHLEY: Sure perfectly all right.
MR. KRAUKLIS: You see there is a Justice and it is a
little different. And the Justice Court gives us income, as
in this year ,that°.is not done yet provided $20,.000.00. And
the Judge cannot take it as in6ome. That'is more or less his
salary. The salary is the income on salary is more or less
such items. This is 1220 which 1220'this group is the Jus-
tice Court and expenses. You are including supplies, secre-
taries salaries, postage and mileage and everything. And them,
it counts in estimated revenues income. For instance bail thv-
accounts that the Justice to get them back to town. More his
• salary more his expense more he can use to get back. This
K year for instance he has provided $18,500.00 in 76. However,
again to income go money that is approximately $20,000.00 or
$21,000.00. Next year's budget for 76 is $20,000.00 income,
and expected to be extended. And probably its workload is
higher and the income should be higher.
MR. VANDEMARK: No one gets a raise especially on the
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fact they bring in something that is more than what they
work. If the water district laid out if you went and laid
100 feet of pipes a day and laid 200 feet tomorrow that you
try to get use...
MR.ftKRAUKLIS: That is one problem the state auditors
always insist you can't make money, you can't make money from
Judge. What the Judge brings in should be spent. And as it
is now...
MR. VANDEMARK: Yes but that doesn't mean, it shouldn't
be spent in his salary. Now when a man works for Niagara
Mohawk what he brings in for Niagara Mohawk is not what he
gets. What I am saying is that we really appreciate the fact
that he is a working man and he is working fulltime. But
still it is an excessive amount of raise. Twenty three per
cent. That is my 'basic argument that it is an
percentage. It is not predicated on what he brings into this
town it is predicated,on the fact that h- employed here. Not
what he brings in.
JUDGE"�EATON: Well it has got to based,on the workload
and...
MR. VANDEMARK: I appreciate that fact but it does not
predicate the fact that you I mean what you put in is greater
than this town.
JUDGE EATON: No I didn't have anything to do with it.
He was just justifying that situation. However, I don't even
consider that. But if that comes in that comes back into the
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general fund under the Supervisor. I don't pay any attention
to that. But he is just telling you what the revenue is.
MR. VANDEMARK: Oh I appreciate that.
JUDGE EATON: What I am basing it on workload. What you
have to do. Now if the workload...
M. VANDEMARK: `If I talked. tp my,boss*slabout my workload
he would fire me.
JUDGE EATON: Well let me ask you. How much has your
workload increased?this year?
MR. VANDEMARK: It has increased tremendously. I have
got an 8 for 8 and that I am not kidding.
JUDGE EATON: Forty two per cent maybe?
MR. VANDEMARK: They want it.
MRS. CANESTARO: Do you get time and a half for anything
over forty hours?
M. VANDEMARK: Yes I do.
MRS.,CANESTARO.:, He doesn't.
MR. VANDEMARK: Well I amron a labor contract.
MRS. CANESTARO: All right: Well you are comparing work
• for work so hours put in should mean something.
t MR. VANDEMARK: It does.
MR'S. CANESTARO: Okay. He should be paid for the hours
that he works.
MR. VANDEMARK: Well in that case you could put an
hourly salary.
MR. BLATCHLEY: Is there any other, we don't mean to cut
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you off Art, but is there anything else you would like to
bring up anybody else? Any other questions?
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of the backhoe in one place and Irnever did get the other
place.
MR. FISH: Sewer.
MR. BLATCHLEY: This is the estimated difference between
a new backhoe and the old one.
MR. PALM: No bids then needed on a sum of that amount?
MR. BLATCHLEY: Yes.
MR. FISH: Well we are going out to bid on that.
MR. VANDEMARK: We are just appropriating it. You have
already distributed the money to take care of it.
MR. FISH: Right. We hope it comes under.
MR. BLATCHLEY: You could right around $12,000.00 or a
I little better. But we put in $15,000.00. I think you will
find, I think when you find studying this budget that you
will find that we have budgeted quite conservatively., And
that there will be unexpended balances at the end of the year
in many cases, with additional revenue in many cases. Any
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hearing then. Thank you very much for coming folks.
Hearing closed at 8:35 P. m.