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TOWN OF ULYSSES
P LANNING UOARD MEETING
MARCH 28 , 1994
TOWN HALL
P RESENT : CHAIRMAN : DAVID TYLER ; MEMBERS : TOYS GAIL , GERRI NEIL ,
DAN SMITH , BUDD STOVER AND PETER DFN ,JANEC7 SECRETARY :
ROXANNE SMITH
The Members opened the meeting with discussion of previous
minutes . Due to having several guest speakers / local businesses , for
the purpose of gathering information ; minutes from February 21 , 1994
o n , had yet to be approved . David took the opportunity to thank Krys for
chairing the meeting of March 21 , 1994 . He then suggested that the
Members work backward , beginning with the minutes from that last
. muting , For the minutes of March 21 , 1994 ; there has been an addition
o f " Lim said " , to the second sentence , top paragraph , page 4 . It
should state " Tim said the highest spot ( needed to build HE pressure in
t he Town of Ulysses ) , is the property owned by Wilbur Briggs . " Krys
motioned for approval , with amendment ; Gerni seconded ; the minutes of
March 21 , 1994 passed unanimously , The minutes for March 14 , 1994
have the following additions / correction : page 1 , last paragraph ,
t he addition of Stever ( to Beach ) ; page 2 , last paragraph , midway
L Is' nLgh , the addition of Auble to B2 ; page 3 , next to last paragraph ,
✓ eal, ators was corrected to realtors . Dan made the motion for approval ,
N uys seconded ; the minutes of March 14 , 1994 were passed unanimously
as amended . For the record , the meeting of March 7 , 1994 was the
✓ eply to Doug Rustic ' s ( Town of Ulysses Supervisor ) letter , and the
✓ esults have been previously approved . The minutes for the meeting of
February 28 , 1994 have the following corrections : page 1 , sixth para -
g raph , forty - five thousand dollars should be forty - five million ,
seventy thousand dollars should be seventy million . Page 1 , seventh
paragraph " of " should be deleted . Discussion ensued on the average total
e xpenditures that a convention delegate would make . trys stated
that Tom King ' s figure was a national .figure and is way out of skew for
t his area . ILLS moved for the minutes to be approved with the changes ,
Peter seconded . The minutes of February 28 , 1994 were passed unanimously . •
The revised minutes of February 21 , 1994 have the following changes /
additions : page 1 , third paragraph , first sentence ; " they " should be
" there " , same page , last paragraph , next to last sentence , change " said "
to " asked " ; last page , second paragraph , three quarters of the way
down , " retails " should be " retail " . Henri made the motion for approval ,
Peter seconded . The minutes were approved as amended , unanimously .
Krys inquired if any Member was interested in the interim report of
t he Governor ' s Panel on Real Property Tax Exemption and Classification
Issues . David said that tax exemptions are a pretty technical_ area ; that
he doesn ' t feel confident to deal with it , He went on to say certainly ,
t ax exemptions are an important out of providing incentives . Does this
group have the expertise to deal with them ? This group did touch on
the Ag exemption at the first business forum . Dan had made the point
t hat the Ag exemption has been sliced away pretty effectively , ( Which
D avid agreed with . )
David mentioned Howard Conklin ' s column in the Ithaca Journal . The
best farmland is often the farmland that goes out of farming . He
suggested that there ought to be a way to keep the good farmland for
farming and let the marginal farming go to development , or whatever .
Ferri said that it is all a relative statement of what is good farmland .
Peter thought Mr . Conklin ' s idea of setting aside the individual fields
permanently , for agricultural use , based on their productivity / tfllabilily
is excellent , very logical , and almost inevitable . Dan said to get your
wallet out ; that you ' re treading on thin ice regarding property rights /
issues . Some of them are being tested right now . Peter said we need
to look for a way to guarantee a place for agriculture , and at the same
time to accommodate developers . The problem with that , said Dan , is
that when you sandwich farms in between development the value of the
farmland goes up ( and they are taxed accordingly ) .
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D avid mentioned that Roxanne will gather up the work the Members
d id in the fall on the Zoning Ordinance . He would like to shift into
lower gear , meet bi - monthly , and pull all that information together ;
perhaps beginning with the next Planning Board meeting .
Krys mentioned that Monica Crispin from Cooperative Extension will
be happy to came talk to the Planning Board and guests , but it would
h ave to be on a Tuesday night . Dan mentioned that they are probably
getting in the information from the survey they just did , and it
would be good to give them a little more time .
D avid suggested that the Members focus on the fine points from
Tom King ' s presentation ' ( from the Tompkins County Chamber of Commerce ' s
Convention Bureau ) . Dan wanted to know how much room tax is collected
in the Town of Ulysses . Kris said she called , and they won ' t divulge
t hat information , because there are too few payers , and it would be
easy to figure out how much business these places are doing , which is
- private . The Members felt that that is public information . Dan
commented that sending Tom King out to give his presentation was
probably the first time the Chamber spent any money in the Town of
U lysses .
Gerri felt that Ingrid Potenza ' s comments made a rot of sense ,
specifically in attracting tourists to the Village . ( What she said
made more sense than what Tom said . ) The accessibility could be
improved by sidewalks , more green spaces . Tom Sing said they concen -
t rated their survey pretty much down at the bake and that doesn ' t
t ranslate well to our village .
D avid mentioned that Trumansburg has the potential for
another " Geneva - On - The - Lake " . He queried whether anyone had ever tried
t o do that . Budd mentioned that Keith teGrand had plans for a conven -
L ion type center on his deceased grandparent - in - law ' s property ( Maude
and Merritt Agatd ) , but that the neighbors squelched it .
The sales tan revenues that come into the County benefit everyone .
It doesn ' t matter that it didn ' t come into the Town of Ulysses said
D avid . It ' s a common perception that many people have , said toys , they
don ' t understand how it works .
D avid queried what the genesis of the mutual distrust between the
✓ illage and Town was ; when did it occur ? Dan thought perhaps it
started with the trailer park .
D rys mentioned the survey that was done for the Chamber, of Commerce .
O ne of the things that came out of that was that there is room for more
outdoor / recreation facilities . Dan feels that a major asset for the
✓ illage / Town of Ulysses is the addition of the net holes to the .
Trumansburg Golf Course . It has the potential to be a major draw .
Neuman Golf Course was flooded out last season so people came to
Trumansburg to play and saw them under construction . He knows that at
0 most one league has left Neuman and has come here . Tax incentives
could be used to get developers here ( for needed tennis courts , pool , etc . )
said David .
Peter commented that the Members were unlikely to see a Convention
Center locate in the Town of Ulysses in our lifetime . It would be better
t o recognize that we have a centerpiece in the Falls / lakefront / park / fair -
g rounds . He thinks they only serve as a centerpiece in terms of a back
drop . They are not going to be a sustaining centerpiece by themselves .
If tourism is going to be a serious objective of the community than
e ffort is going to have to be made to have an endless series of events
for these locations . They need to be promoted and advertised by our
local Chamber of Commerce .
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Krys is very interested in the local architecture . It would be
• nice to have a walk of the historic houses that was structured and
written out . The need for the sidewalks ( as Ingrid Potenza said )
would have to be addressed . If there was a brochure it could be
put in the Visitor ' s Bureau .
The Watkins Glen Racetrack has a tremendous draw , said Dan . A lot
o f people center their vacation around the races . We can offer camp -
grounds , and golf . Frye mentioned that developing campgrounds does
✓ equire water and sewer .
Tourism is e Town / Village initiative . A joint committee made up
o f e tee Village Trustees and Town Council Members would Fe e fine
idea said David . A strong recommendation to the Town Board stating
that the Planning Board had arrived at that conclusion ( regarding
tourism ) would be appropriate , he said . Toys mentioned that through
her talks with Doug rustic , four things came up that Doug would Like
the Planning Board to do .
1 . He would like e copy of the minutes for each meeting ( which
he now receives ) .
2 . The Master Plan Femmittee should report to the Board every
sic months .
3 . The Planning Board should report to the Board every month
( outlining the work that they are doing , it could be e written
report . )
4 . The Town Board should know who is on the doctor Plan Committee .
David suggested that after the next meeting Roxanne could take
the minutes and using them could come up with a short letter stating
what the Planning Board recommends .
The agenda for the next meeting will be to hash out the business
forums . The meetings for April will be on the 18th and 25th at the
Town Hall at 7 ; 30PM .
The meeting adjourned. at 9 : 10 PM .
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