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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1993-11-29 - PB OP410. TOWN OF ULYSSES P LANNING BOARD MEETING NOVEMBER 29 , 1993 TOWN HALL P RESENT : CHAIRMAN : DAVID TYLER ; MEMBERS : KRYS CAIL , GREGG HOFFMIRE , GERRI KEIL AND BUDD STOVER ; BUILDING / ZONING OFFICER : ALEX RACHUN ; SECRETARY : ROXANNE SMITH . 11/ The meeting was called to order at 7 : 45 PM . The minutes of November 15 , 1993 were reviewed . A change was made in the second paragraph , midway down on page one . " The idea is to find the path o f reality and not develop potential sites for multi - family units at this evening ' s meeting stated David . " , was changed to " The idea is to define Residential Zones and not potential sites for multi - family units at this evening ' s meeting stated David . " Gregg made t he motion to pass the minutes , Gerri seconded . All the Members were in favor . The discussion began with the Members questioning Alex about t he Health Department requirements for multi - family units . Alex ✓ eplied that there are three governing bodies . The NYS code breaks t he units between two and three . The Health Department between t hree and four and the ADA ( American Disability Association ) also breaks the units between three and four ; they also require handicap access for the fourth unit . At the fourth unit you are required to be a water district manager . Every month the water needs to be t ested . The old Ed Mosely property and Ken Christianson have a w ater management district . It may be at the fifth unit that a SPEDES permit is required ( you go from the local health department t o the DEC regulations for your waste discharge . ) The health depart - ment has the jurisdiction . They go by the number of bedrooms , soil type and area . They will work with what we already defined as o ur area which is 10 , 000 square feet for everything over the first 60 , 000 square feet per unit . The first two units require 43 , 000 square feet and the third unit on up you need another 10 , 000 square feet . You need an acre for two units plus 10 , 000 square feet for e very additional family in that unit . The breakdown at three units makes more sense said Alex . The uniform code treats duplex the same as a single Al , A2 . It is discriminatory to make it owner occupied said Alex . Krys wondered about height restrictions . Do they exist ? Alex said that on primary dwellings we do not have restrictions but on accessory buildings we do . The minimum uniform code the Town of Ulysses enforces , said Alex . Exterior fire escapes are n ot allowed anymore . Gerri asked Alex his opinion on setbacks . Visually , Alex said , he doesn ' t really have a feel for. that . With a larger parcel , it ' s a matter of scaling said David . The setback is not excessive said Krys . A three unit building might well be 100 feet wide ( and set back 100 feet ) . The Special Children ' s Center fits into the Residential Zone . Sanatoriums , Hospice and hospitals need a special permit . The d aycare centers would go in by code . ( A center with children under three years would require a C62 Zone ; like a hospital . ) The Members asked Alex ' s opinion on the separate Article for lot area and yard regulation . Krys would like to see it combined with each zone . Alex said he would like to find it all in one place . David questioned whether the Members wanted to deal with the sewer issue . Krys thought it would be good to have it in place . , ' f TOWN OF ULYSSES 2 PLANNING BOARD MEETING NOVEMBER 29 , 1993 TOWN HALL Row houses , town house and condominiums are real popular with t he builders . The units of three can have different roof lines with private entrances , separate garages , small back yards and have a community area in common . It is more common to see twenty - five groups of three . I could see something like that going in behind t he Shur - Save said Krys . David decided to leave the sewered areas distinction for future consideration . The Members discussed the R3 - four units or more . It is possible to get a Candlewyck Park Apartments said David . ( . . . Or a Brook Road Apartments said Alex . ) Candlewyck got a variance for t heir height said Krys . If the Town of Ulysses wants to accept densely populated buildings then they should be on sewer said Alex . If it ' s not on sewer let them stick with the two to three units . We are all agreed that it should be sewered and watered said David . ED Mosely ' s old property fronts the golf course . That would be an area for an R3 . A development is being planned by Bob Seamon . H e bought up an enormous piece of property down on the lake and part of it is in the Town of Ulysses . What if Auble did put apartments in ? What should the R3 say about that , asked David ? Four stories , said Krys . It should be sewered with no more than 25 % of the lot covered by improvements said David . Should setbacks be discussed , asked Gerri ? David said he liked Krys ' s idea to have setback a function of the mass of the structure . Lansing has 6 , 000 square feet per dwelling unit , their setback for a large multi - unit is 75 feet said David . You might want to look at height by special permit said Alex . ( To take lake views into consideration . ) Sometimes you want to be in sync with your fire department said Krys . The next meeting is Monday , December 6 , 1993 . The Members decided to look at an overview of the Business district said David . The height issue needs to be addressed . Four stories will outsize downtown Trumansburg said Alex . You could do four stories but not e xceed a certain number of feet said David . Just make it regardless o f grade said Krys . At the beginning of the year we should try to get all this information on to a disc said David . Would 31 floppies be OK asked Alex ? Some of us could work at home on it then . The meeting adjourned at 9 : 20 PM .