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TOWN OF ULYSSES
P LANNING BOARD MEETING
NOVEMBER 29 , 1993
TOWN HALL
P RESENT : CHAIRMAN : DAVID TYLER ; MEMBERS : KRYS CAIL , GREGG
HOFFMIRE , GERRI KEIL AND BUDD STOVER ; BUILDING / ZONING
OFFICER : ALEX RACHUN ; SECRETARY : ROXANNE SMITH .
11/ The meeting was called to order at 7 : 45 PM . The minutes of
November 15 , 1993 were reviewed . A change was made in the second
paragraph , midway down on page one . " The idea is to find the path
o f reality and not develop potential sites for multi - family units
at this evening ' s meeting stated David . " , was changed to " The idea
is to define Residential Zones and not potential sites for multi -
family units at this evening ' s meeting stated David . " Gregg made
t he motion to pass the minutes , Gerri seconded . All the Members
were in favor .
The discussion began with the Members questioning Alex about
t he Health Department requirements for multi - family units . Alex
✓ eplied that there are three governing bodies . The NYS code breaks
t he units between two and three . The Health Department between
t hree and four and the ADA ( American Disability Association ) also
breaks the units between three and four ; they also require handicap
access for the fourth unit . At the fourth unit you are required to
be a water district manager . Every month the water needs to be
t ested . The old Ed Mosely property and Ken Christianson have a
w ater management district . It may be at the fifth unit that a
SPEDES permit is required ( you go from the local health department
t o the DEC regulations for your waste discharge . ) The health depart -
ment has the jurisdiction . They go by the number of bedrooms ,
soil type and area . They will work with what we already defined as
o ur area which is 10 , 000 square feet for everything over the first
60 , 000 square feet per unit . The first two units require 43 , 000
square feet and the third unit on up you need another 10 , 000 square
feet . You need an acre for two units plus 10 , 000 square feet for
e very additional family in that unit . The breakdown at three units
makes more sense said Alex .
The uniform code treats duplex the same as a single Al , A2 .
It is discriminatory to make it owner occupied said Alex .
Krys wondered about height restrictions . Do they exist ?
Alex said that on primary dwellings we do not have restrictions
but on accessory buildings we do . The minimum uniform code the
Town of Ulysses enforces , said Alex . Exterior fire escapes are
n ot allowed anymore .
Gerri asked Alex his opinion on setbacks . Visually , Alex
said , he doesn ' t really have a feel for. that . With a larger parcel ,
it ' s a matter of scaling said David . The setback is not excessive
said Krys . A three unit building might well be 100 feet wide ( and set
back 100 feet ) .
The Special Children ' s Center fits into the Residential Zone .
Sanatoriums , Hospice and hospitals need a special permit . The
d aycare centers would go in by code . ( A center with children under
three years would require a C62 Zone ; like a hospital . )
The Members asked Alex ' s opinion on the separate Article for
lot area and yard regulation . Krys would like to see it combined with
each zone . Alex said he would like to find it all in one place .
David questioned whether the Members wanted to deal with the
sewer issue . Krys thought it would be good to have it in place .
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PLANNING BOARD MEETING
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TOWN HALL
Row houses , town house and condominiums are real popular with
t he builders . The units of three can have different roof lines
with private entrances , separate garages , small back yards and have
a community area in common . It is more common to see twenty - five
groups of three . I could see something like that going in behind
t he Shur - Save said Krys .
David decided to leave the sewered areas distinction for future
consideration . The Members discussed the R3 - four units or more .
It is possible to get a Candlewyck Park Apartments said David . ( . . . Or
a Brook Road Apartments said Alex . ) Candlewyck got a variance for
t heir height said Krys . If the Town of Ulysses wants to accept
densely populated buildings then they should be on sewer said Alex .
If it ' s not on sewer let them stick with the two to three units . We
are all agreed that it should be sewered and watered said David .
ED Mosely ' s old property fronts the golf course . That would
be an area for an R3 . A development is being planned by Bob Seamon .
H e bought up an enormous piece of property down on the lake and
part of it is in the Town of Ulysses .
What if Auble did put apartments in ? What should the R3 say
about that , asked David ? Four stories , said Krys . It should be
sewered with no more than 25 % of the lot covered by improvements
said David . Should setbacks be discussed , asked Gerri ? David said
he liked Krys ' s idea to have setback a function of the mass of the
structure . Lansing has 6 , 000 square feet per dwelling unit , their
setback for a large multi - unit is 75 feet said David . You might
want to look at height by special permit said Alex . ( To take lake
views into consideration . ) Sometimes you want to be in sync with
your fire department said Krys .
The next meeting is Monday , December 6 , 1993 . The Members
decided to look at an overview of the Business district said David .
The height issue needs to be addressed . Four stories will outsize
downtown Trumansburg said Alex . You could do four stories but not
e xceed a certain number of feet said David . Just make it regardless
o f grade said Krys . At the beginning of the year we should try to
get all this information on to a disc said David . Would 31 floppies
be OK asked Alex ? Some of us could work at home on it then .
The meeting adjourned at 9 : 20 PM .