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VILLAGE OF TRUMANSBURG
TOWN OF ULYSSES
J OINT PLANNING BOARD MEETING
VILLAGE HALL
SEPTEMBER 23 , 1993
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P RESENT : VILLAGE MEMBERS : JOHN O ' LEARY , PAUL ODELL , ANDY SCOTT ,
ROBERT BROWN AND DON ELLIS
TOWN MEMBERS : DAVID TYLER , KRYS CAIL , GERRI KEIL ,
DAN SMITH AND BUDD STOVER
OTHERS : MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEMBER : CATHERINE
STOVER
SECRETARY : ROXANNE SMITH
The Chairman of the Town of Ulysses , David Tyler , called
t he meeting to order at 7 : 30 PM . David explained that discussions
h ad occurred between John and himself earlier in the summer . They
concerned the Village Comprehensive Plan and what the impact on that
would be by ideas implemented by the Ulysses Planning Board . The
American Legion decision has lended some urgency to the situation .
The decision was arrived at on fairly narrow grounds having to do with
how the seeker was done . The Judge added ( at the end of the decision ) ,
t hat the Town has problems with its Development District Ordinance due
t o lack of a Comprehensive Plan . ( There could be an issue of spot
zoning . )
IIIThe last time these two groups met was one year ago , before the
G eneral Development Plan of the Village was adopted by the Village ' s
P lanning Board . ( It has not been adopted by the Village Board . )
D avid queried the Village Members concerning what they would like to
see the Town ' s Comprehensive Plan include , dealing with areas that
abut the Village . At this point John invited the participants to have
a closer look at the Village ' s map . An explanation / discussion of
color codes ensued . For new Residential development there will prob -
ably be lower density . The Commercial is broken down into Cl - more
walkable and C2 - more driveable . The light Industry area would prob -
ably include any kind of electronic assembly , labs ; but no smoke stacks .
There is no desire to change retail . The middle of the Village real -
istically can not compete with surrounding businesses . There is an
interest to place businesses on the edge though said Don . Referring to
D ryden and Route 13 David mentioned the Town Member ' s dislike of strip
d evelopment and how that could occur to Route 96 . It tends to weaken
t he community center . The work on the Octopus begins in 1995 . In
t erms of services , Robert mentioned that if there was a large influx
o f population , Trumansburg would not have the facilities to accomodate
t he growth . Looking at the services available , in the confines of the
Village , you see that there isn ' t much . The Network Café has gone out ,
t he hairdressers next door have too . The building has been bought .
David reiterated how do we encourage the Village ' s center ? Trumansburg
is a village ; because of that it draws people . To preserve it you
don ' t necessarily expand said John . Trumansburg ' s real strength is in
IIIits provisions ; so you do not have to go to Ithaca all of the time .
D evelopment on the Seneca County side is much more positive . The other
d irection would dilute us . The biggest weakness is that the services
we are unable to offer downtown , we don ' t have . What really makes sense
is a joint meeting between the Town of Covert , Town of Ulysses and the
Village . Most of the development is happening in another county said
Don . A Developer with some vision could really work at the Auble site .
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✓ ILLAGE OF TRUMANSBURG
TOWN OP ULYSSES
JOINT PLANNING BOARD MEETING
✓ ILLAGE HALL
SEPTEMBER 23 , 1993
O ne thing the Town has thought about would be if a lot of businesses
came to Rt . 95 there would be too many curb cuts . This could jam up
t raffic . It is necessary to have a lot of set backs . What is listed
as Commercial on Rt . 96 isn ' t always viable . There are a lot of devel -
o pment districts said David . Between Jacksonville Rd . and Rt . 96 there
is a large area that could be zoned Commercial said Don . The property
abutting Smith Woods that looks like it is part of Smith Woods actually
belongs to the huddleston family said Robert . Returning to the Village ,
h ubs suggested that some thematic work needs to be done on the draws
o f the Village . Due to the creek and the steep embankments the village
Center has e different destiny which doesn ' t include cars said Don . We
can accommodate a lot of ears said David , citing the CRass Roots Festival
at the fairgrounds and Shur Save . Since the Shur Save has moved out
parking is not really an issue . You can always find e space now said
Robert .
David asked the Village Members what they would like to see in the
plan of the Town that the Town Members are working on . ton responded
t hat they ' d like to see 96 stay clear because of the hazard . Robert
mentioned the Industrial Zane . He ' d like to see it cut down . He ' d also
like to see the sewer system extended all the net down Seneca Road and
t hen put e pumping station in and bring it back into Trumansburg along
irontenac Road , The water lines extend down to the fairgrounds . There
is no reason not to extend it down to 95 . Don said that if the South
edge develops more quickly it would be more beneficial to the Town and
✓ illage ( due to taxes ; being in Tompkins County , not Seneca ) . Yr s
mentioned that jobs to the North are dying nut . Once the Dctoput sit -
uation is resolved development may talk place at the South end . There
would be more reason to shop nearer the Village when it becomes a time
factor . The Industrial ' erer has water but not sewer said Robert . Krys
questioned whether that is an area that is likely to be developed .
Robert said that Tom Niederkorn says yes . Businesses need encourage -
ment however . John mentioned two businesses that would have come had
t hat happened ( Moog Synthesizers and Agri - Bic ) . Budd asked what the
capacities of the water and sewer system were . John said due to the
D EC changing classifications of the stream some major, dollars could
in involved . Robert said e couple of $ 100 , 000 . 00 would be needed . Andy
said another, water tower would be necessary .
There is no mandate in the Village for development . The Board
✓ eflects the attitude in general . People here like the Village as it is
said Don . That is an assumption that things are not going to change .
That ' s a false premise said David . The Auble project is the wake up
call . If they want e Master Plan where the Town is going to be favor -
able to the Village they had better start thinking about it . We can
e ither work hand in hand or cause e lot of problems said Dan . The
✓ illage goes out side of the Village anywhere there is a main . They in
out to Wateriurg . Anyone that is within 500 feet of that can hook up .
They will pay a rate and a half and 9900 . 00 ( .for hook up ) . The Village
is not going to expand the main said Robert . nuts said Bolton Point
IIIcould be approached as an option . Bolton Point is more profit motivated .
It would be a disaster if the water lines came up Irehell and 95 . If
you want things built in a certain direction , water and sewer go hand in
hand . The Town does not have water , the Village does , said David . If
t he Village really wants to support the Commercial and Industrial areas
t hey should extend water and sewer soon with some reasonable control ; it
would be questionable to extend to Residential said Don . Serri said
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VILLAGE OF TRUMANSBURG
TOWN OF ULYSSES
J OINT PLANNING BOARD MEETING
VILLAGE HALL
S EPTLMUER 23 , 1993
they really need to work together to identify those areas for both the
Village and the Town plans to mesh . David asked from the Village ' s
perspective does annexation make any sense ? John said it would certain -
ly help the tax base . Robert said following the natural boundries
would make sense . Ruble is now zoned 82 , we ' re stuck with that said
D avid .
Krys stated that she would like to pursue the the area by [Monroe
Square for an Industrial Zone . The Ithaca Development Agency ( / DA )
is holding title to that .
A circut rider provided by the County has helped the Town with the
Land Use Maps said David . I•Ie questioned what the procedure would be
to get some input from the Village Planning Board for the Town ' s Master
Plan . Don said they would need e directive from the village Board to
work with the Town .
David suggested that these groups meet again in sir months along
with the Master Plan Committee . He thanked the Village for meeting
with them . The meeting adjourned at li3eO .
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