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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1993-09-23 - PB ! 4 / VILLAGE OF TRUMANSBURG TOWN OF ULYSSES J OINT PLANNING BOARD MEETING VILLAGE HALL SEPTEMBER 23 , 1993 III P RESENT : VILLAGE MEMBERS : JOHN O ' LEARY , PAUL ODELL , ANDY SCOTT , ROBERT BROWN AND DON ELLIS TOWN MEMBERS : DAVID TYLER , KRYS CAIL , GERRI KEIL , DAN SMITH AND BUDD STOVER OTHERS : MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEMBER : CATHERINE STOVER SECRETARY : ROXANNE SMITH The Chairman of the Town of Ulysses , David Tyler , called t he meeting to order at 7 : 30 PM . David explained that discussions h ad occurred between John and himself earlier in the summer . They concerned the Village Comprehensive Plan and what the impact on that would be by ideas implemented by the Ulysses Planning Board . The American Legion decision has lended some urgency to the situation . The decision was arrived at on fairly narrow grounds having to do with how the seeker was done . The Judge added ( at the end of the decision ) , t hat the Town has problems with its Development District Ordinance due t o lack of a Comprehensive Plan . ( There could be an issue of spot zoning . ) IIIThe last time these two groups met was one year ago , before the G eneral Development Plan of the Village was adopted by the Village ' s P lanning Board . ( It has not been adopted by the Village Board . ) D avid queried the Village Members concerning what they would like to see the Town ' s Comprehensive Plan include , dealing with areas that abut the Village . At this point John invited the participants to have a closer look at the Village ' s map . An explanation / discussion of color codes ensued . For new Residential development there will prob - ably be lower density . The Commercial is broken down into Cl - more walkable and C2 - more driveable . The light Industry area would prob - ably include any kind of electronic assembly , labs ; but no smoke stacks . There is no desire to change retail . The middle of the Village real - istically can not compete with surrounding businesses . There is an interest to place businesses on the edge though said Don . Referring to D ryden and Route 13 David mentioned the Town Member ' s dislike of strip d evelopment and how that could occur to Route 96 . It tends to weaken t he community center . The work on the Octopus begins in 1995 . In t erms of services , Robert mentioned that if there was a large influx o f population , Trumansburg would not have the facilities to accomodate t he growth . Looking at the services available , in the confines of the Village , you see that there isn ' t much . The Network Café has gone out , t he hairdressers next door have too . The building has been bought . David reiterated how do we encourage the Village ' s center ? Trumansburg is a village ; because of that it draws people . To preserve it you don ' t necessarily expand said John . Trumansburg ' s real strength is in IIIits provisions ; so you do not have to go to Ithaca all of the time . D evelopment on the Seneca County side is much more positive . The other d irection would dilute us . The biggest weakness is that the services we are unable to offer downtown , we don ' t have . What really makes sense is a joint meeting between the Town of Covert , Town of Ulysses and the Village . Most of the development is happening in another county said Don . A Developer with some vision could really work at the Auble site . . . .. 9 * ✓ ILLAGE OF TRUMANSBURG TOWN OP ULYSSES JOINT PLANNING BOARD MEETING ✓ ILLAGE HALL SEPTEMBER 23 , 1993 O ne thing the Town has thought about would be if a lot of businesses came to Rt . 95 there would be too many curb cuts . This could jam up t raffic . It is necessary to have a lot of set backs . What is listed as Commercial on Rt . 96 isn ' t always viable . There are a lot of devel - o pment districts said David . Between Jacksonville Rd . and Rt . 96 there is a large area that could be zoned Commercial said Don . The property abutting Smith Woods that looks like it is part of Smith Woods actually belongs to the huddleston family said Robert . Returning to the Village , h ubs suggested that some thematic work needs to be done on the draws o f the Village . Due to the creek and the steep embankments the village Center has e different destiny which doesn ' t include cars said Don . We can accommodate a lot of ears said David , citing the CRass Roots Festival at the fairgrounds and Shur Save . Since the Shur Save has moved out parking is not really an issue . You can always find e space now said Robert . David asked the Village Members what they would like to see in the plan of the Town that the Town Members are working on . ton responded t hat they ' d like to see 96 stay clear because of the hazard . Robert mentioned the Industrial Zane . He ' d like to see it cut down . He ' d also like to see the sewer system extended all the net down Seneca Road and t hen put e pumping station in and bring it back into Trumansburg along irontenac Road , The water lines extend down to the fairgrounds . There is no reason not to extend it down to 95 . Don said that if the South edge develops more quickly it would be more beneficial to the Town and ✓ illage ( due to taxes ; being in Tompkins County , not Seneca ) . Yr s mentioned that jobs to the North are dying nut . Once the Dctoput sit - uation is resolved development may talk place at the South end . There would be more reason to shop nearer the Village when it becomes a time factor . The Industrial ' erer has water but not sewer said Robert . Krys questioned whether that is an area that is likely to be developed . Robert said that Tom Niederkorn says yes . Businesses need encourage - ment however . John mentioned two businesses that would have come had t hat happened ( Moog Synthesizers and Agri - Bic ) . Budd asked what the capacities of the water and sewer system were . John said due to the D EC changing classifications of the stream some major, dollars could in involved . Robert said e couple of $ 100 , 000 . 00 would be needed . Andy said another, water tower would be necessary . There is no mandate in the Village for development . The Board ✓ eflects the attitude in general . People here like the Village as it is said Don . That is an assumption that things are not going to change . That ' s a false premise said David . The Auble project is the wake up call . If they want e Master Plan where the Town is going to be favor - able to the Village they had better start thinking about it . We can e ither work hand in hand or cause e lot of problems said Dan . The ✓ illage goes out side of the Village anywhere there is a main . They in out to Wateriurg . Anyone that is within 500 feet of that can hook up . They will pay a rate and a half and 9900 . 00 ( .for hook up ) . The Village is not going to expand the main said Robert . nuts said Bolton Point IIIcould be approached as an option . Bolton Point is more profit motivated . It would be a disaster if the water lines came up Irehell and 95 . If you want things built in a certain direction , water and sewer go hand in hand . The Town does not have water , the Village does , said David . If t he Village really wants to support the Commercial and Industrial areas t hey should extend water and sewer soon with some reasonable control ; it would be questionable to extend to Residential said Don . Serri said 1413 VILLAGE OF TRUMANSBURG TOWN OF ULYSSES J OINT PLANNING BOARD MEETING VILLAGE HALL S EPTLMUER 23 , 1993 they really need to work together to identify those areas for both the Village and the Town plans to mesh . David asked from the Village ' s perspective does annexation make any sense ? John said it would certain - ly help the tax base . Robert said following the natural boundries would make sense . Ruble is now zoned 82 , we ' re stuck with that said D avid . Krys stated that she would like to pursue the the area by [Monroe Square for an Industrial Zone . The Ithaca Development Agency ( / DA ) is holding title to that . A circut rider provided by the County has helped the Town with the Land Use Maps said David . I•Ie questioned what the procedure would be to get some input from the Village Planning Board for the Town ' s Master Plan . Don said they would need e directive from the village Board to work with the Town . David suggested that these groups meet again in sir months along with the Master Plan Committee . He thanked the Village for meeting with them . The meeting adjourned at li3eO . ill III