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PLANNING BOARD MEETING
TOWN HALL
JUNE 21 , 1993
PRESENT : Chairman , David Tyler ; Members : Gregg Hoffmireq Budd
Stover and Dan Smith ; Secretary : Roxanne Smith
The Chairman called the meeting to order at 8 : 00 PM . The
minutes of May 17 , 1993 were up for approval . On the top of the
second page the word " private " should say " second " . The end of
t he same paragraph should say " It is suppose to start in the
spring of ' 95 said David . " Budd made the motion to approve the
minutes ; Dan seconded . The minutes were confirmed unanimously .
The Pleasant Grove group was not able to appear to provide
a presentation . The Chairman requested that the members try to
consolidate their thoughts on the Route 96 issue that they have
been working on for the last month and a half . Obviously because
P leasant Grove could not attend nothing could be finalized .
Dan questioned whether Commercial could be de - classified
legally . David stated that it is legal to re- zone . Commercial
property that is there becomes a non -conforming use . if the
property ceases to be used in that capacity after a period of a
year or so then it reverts to the present zoning .
The Chairman shared the following thoughts for the record .
Water and sewer are really key to Commercial property
d evelopment . He suggested presenting the Town Board with a
statement saying where the Planning Board would like to see some
Commercial development take place . It is time to take a "
position . Perhaps this group could meet with the Village
P lanners . From a planning point of view Pleasant Grove really
d oesn ' t make much sense . If it is looked at as being some sort
o f node of some Commercial it really has no future as water and
sewer are too far off in either direction .
Budd mentioned a plan back in 1986 or 1987 to run water to
J acksonville from Trumansburg . Mobil Oil was suppose to
contribute a significant amount of dollars to take care of the
problem . Mobil Oil decided that it would be less costly to buy
u p the surrounding homes and the Town Board allowed it to happen .
David stated that if the Village wants to see Auble go they need
to provide water and sewer and the situation is the same for the
S hur Save . The Village does not want to foot the entire bill .
Budd stated that the Village is using water and sewer as zoning .
Everyone agreed .
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The Village may decide to annex the little piece of Auble ' s
and also the area of the Shur Save . David said he would not have
a problem with that . Dan said originally Bill Auble wanted to be
annexed into the Village . Have the Faces changed on the Board
since than ? Would they be willing to change their position ? The
Town Board has come to the Planning Board and said they want to
h ave more B2s besides Auble ' s . David feels that the Planning
Board ' s answer ought to be that the B2s should be next to the
✓ illage and they ought to have water and sewer . The B2 at Auble ' s
has not gone anywhere because it does not have either . David
asked the members if Pleasant Grove made sense as a B2 . Dan said
n o . Budd felt that the original problem is with the DEC . David
felt that if any planning was to take place Pleasant Grove would
n ot fit in . The perfect spot would be ISA Babcock said Dan . The
horse barn across from the Honda Shop could be another spot
o ffered Gregg .
A basic issue that needs to be addressed by the Master Plan
Committee concerns the Agricultural needs . If the community
values the Agriculture in the area incentives need to be
provided . Everyone takes Agriculture for granted said David .
Vermont and Rhode Island have made allowances . There ought to be
a rider to the State Ag exemption . It would re -distribute the
burden so Agriculture would be more favorable here . An
indication of how farming is doing is to look at their support
services . They are going under . Taxation is a very effective i
planning tool .
To deal with the water issue the Town would have to do
something big . Dan said major work needs to be done in the next
five years . Should the Planning Board meet with the Village
P lanning Board , have a joint meeting ? When the Master Plan
Committee finishes with their mapping The Planning Board should
meet with them also .
The grading of the Residential Zone will be next . - David <
w anted to take a moment to lay the groundwork for the next
meeting . He stated that there is one Residential zone now ,
how many more are needed ? The Master Plan Committee has come up
w ith three ( Residential under 2 acres , 2 to 10 , then Agricultural
Residential with 10 plus acreage ) . David felt the biggest
d istinction is whether it is owner occupied . Seldom would you
find more than two units with owner occupancy . Three or more
units would be considered multi - family for the first category .
The second category could be the single family ( acreage of 2 or
less ) , which could allow for the mother - in - law apartment . The
third category would be the Residential in the Agricultural
setting . The next step will be to define what goes in there .
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David asked how many Business Districts are needed ? Three?
The B2 came out as a medium impact zone . Two other categories on
either side might be helpful stated David . The lightest kind of
Commercial use that could be seen might be business offices ,
doctors offices , pretty much self contained , with low traffic .
The heavier use should have its own category . Three categories
in each zone makes sense stated David .
The meetings for July will meet on the 12th and the 26th .
Dan made the motion to have Krys Cail as Chairwoman for the July
12th meeting as David will be unavailable . Gregg seconded the
motion ; all were in favor .
Roxanne will get a hold of Alex to see if the Pleasant Grove
group can come to the July 12th meeting . Otherwise the agenda
for the evening will be to further discuss the breaking down of
the Residential and Business Zones . An agenda item will be what
is to be discussed with the Village Planning Board . David will
try to get in touch with a member to let them know ahead of time .
Budd made the motion to adjourn the meeting ; Dan seconded .
All were in favor , the meeting adjourned at 9 : 05 PM .