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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1993-06-21 - PB TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD MEETING TOWN HALL JUNE 21 , 1993 PRESENT : Chairman , David Tyler ; Members : Gregg Hoffmireq Budd Stover and Dan Smith ; Secretary : Roxanne Smith The Chairman called the meeting to order at 8 : 00 PM . The minutes of May 17 , 1993 were up for approval . On the top of the second page the word " private " should say " second " . The end of t he same paragraph should say " It is suppose to start in the spring of ' 95 said David . " Budd made the motion to approve the minutes ; Dan seconded . The minutes were confirmed unanimously . The Pleasant Grove group was not able to appear to provide a presentation . The Chairman requested that the members try to consolidate their thoughts on the Route 96 issue that they have been working on for the last month and a half . Obviously because P leasant Grove could not attend nothing could be finalized . Dan questioned whether Commercial could be de - classified legally . David stated that it is legal to re- zone . Commercial property that is there becomes a non -conforming use . if the property ceases to be used in that capacity after a period of a year or so then it reverts to the present zoning . The Chairman shared the following thoughts for the record . Water and sewer are really key to Commercial property d evelopment . He suggested presenting the Town Board with a statement saying where the Planning Board would like to see some Commercial development take place . It is time to take a " position . Perhaps this group could meet with the Village P lanners . From a planning point of view Pleasant Grove really d oesn ' t make much sense . If it is looked at as being some sort o f node of some Commercial it really has no future as water and sewer are too far off in either direction . Budd mentioned a plan back in 1986 or 1987 to run water to J acksonville from Trumansburg . Mobil Oil was suppose to contribute a significant amount of dollars to take care of the problem . Mobil Oil decided that it would be less costly to buy u p the surrounding homes and the Town Board allowed it to happen . David stated that if the Village wants to see Auble go they need to provide water and sewer and the situation is the same for the S hur Save . The Village does not want to foot the entire bill . Budd stated that the Village is using water and sewer as zoning . Everyone agreed . TOWN OF ULYSSES 2 PLANNING BOARD MEETING JUNE 21 , 1993 The Village may decide to annex the little piece of Auble ' s and also the area of the Shur Save . David said he would not have a problem with that . Dan said originally Bill Auble wanted to be annexed into the Village . Have the Faces changed on the Board since than ? Would they be willing to change their position ? The Town Board has come to the Planning Board and said they want to h ave more B2s besides Auble ' s . David feels that the Planning Board ' s answer ought to be that the B2s should be next to the ✓ illage and they ought to have water and sewer . The B2 at Auble ' s has not gone anywhere because it does not have either . David asked the members if Pleasant Grove made sense as a B2 . Dan said n o . Budd felt that the original problem is with the DEC . David felt that if any planning was to take place Pleasant Grove would n ot fit in . The perfect spot would be ISA Babcock said Dan . The horse barn across from the Honda Shop could be another spot o ffered Gregg . A basic issue that needs to be addressed by the Master Plan Committee concerns the Agricultural needs . If the community values the Agriculture in the area incentives need to be provided . Everyone takes Agriculture for granted said David . Vermont and Rhode Island have made allowances . There ought to be a rider to the State Ag exemption . It would re -distribute the burden so Agriculture would be more favorable here . An indication of how farming is doing is to look at their support services . They are going under . Taxation is a very effective i planning tool . To deal with the water issue the Town would have to do something big . Dan said major work needs to be done in the next five years . Should the Planning Board meet with the Village P lanning Board , have a joint meeting ? When the Master Plan Committee finishes with their mapping The Planning Board should meet with them also . The grading of the Residential Zone will be next . - David < w anted to take a moment to lay the groundwork for the next meeting . He stated that there is one Residential zone now , how many more are needed ? The Master Plan Committee has come up w ith three ( Residential under 2 acres , 2 to 10 , then Agricultural Residential with 10 plus acreage ) . David felt the biggest d istinction is whether it is owner occupied . Seldom would you find more than two units with owner occupancy . Three or more units would be considered multi - family for the first category . The second category could be the single family ( acreage of 2 or less ) , which could allow for the mother - in - law apartment . The third category would be the Residential in the Agricultural setting . The next step will be to define what goes in there . Qy I TOWN OF ULYSSES 3 PLANNING BOARD MEETING JUNE 21 , 1993 David asked how many Business Districts are needed ? Three? The B2 came out as a medium impact zone . Two other categories on either side might be helpful stated David . The lightest kind of Commercial use that could be seen might be business offices , doctors offices , pretty much self contained , with low traffic . The heavier use should have its own category . Three categories in each zone makes sense stated David . The meetings for July will meet on the 12th and the 26th . Dan made the motion to have Krys Cail as Chairwoman for the July 12th meeting as David will be unavailable . Gregg seconded the motion ; all were in favor . Roxanne will get a hold of Alex to see if the Pleasant Grove group can come to the July 12th meeting . Otherwise the agenda for the evening will be to further discuss the breaking down of the Residential and Business Zones . An agenda item will be what is to be discussed with the Village Planning Board . David will try to get in touch with a member to let them know ahead of time . Budd made the motion to adjourn the meeting ; Dan seconded . All were in favor , the meeting adjourned at 9 : 05 PM .