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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1993-03-16 - MP 3 ? • TOWN OF ULYSSES MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEETING TUESDAY , MARCH 16 , 1993 TOWN HALL 7 : 00 P . M . P resent : Chairman , Gary Myers ; Committee Members : Judy Cone , Ruth Kahn , David Laurie , Carl Mann Jr . , Joanne Moline , David Tyler and Secretary : Rox - anne Smith . Chairman Gary Myers called the meeting to order at 7 : 10 P . M . Gary requested everyone introduce themselves as there were . newmembers present and many months had elapsed since t he last Master Plan Committee meeting . The new members o riginally had applied for the available Planning Board position . More applications were received than positions available . Through the interview process these new members e xpressed interest in the Master Plan Committee and were e ventually appointed to it . Gary said a lot of basic background has been completed in history , utilities , agriculture , open space , village , and school and is included in the Master Plan Draft 3 from J une 22 , 1991 . He requested that 7 copies be made and dis - t ributed to new members before the next meeting . Rcxann6 w ill get the copies to everyone . Gary continued by saying t hat the Committee could do a lot of conversing . and spec - u lating about where things should go but without an existing zoning map they could not go much further . Gary stated that the debate exists over whether the Comprehensive Plan should be general or specific . From Gary ' s own experience in com - prehensive plans the information is much broader and general . All the Committee is responsible for is laying the foundation for various development . The Planning Board and Torn Board deal with specifics . David Tyler said that the Town Board is responsible for re - zoning . David stated that several copies of a land use plan f or a little town up in the Adirondaks was left in the Mas - ter Plan basket for everyone to consider . ( David Tyler is t he C :n. airman for the Planning Board of the Town of Ulysses . ) H e gave Committee members a little background on what. the Planning Board has ahead of them and their needs of the Come mittee . Out of the Planning Board ' s deliberation over the Auble parcel they recognized a desire to keep the Village t he center of commerce in the Torn of Ulysses . They B2 came into being to keep the Auble area a light duty commercial district . The Pleasa. nt Grove Bed and Breakfast had submitted a PIJD application . The Town Board would like the Planning B oard to consider this as another B2 which David Tyler isn ' t comfortable with . No real input has been received to consider this though . The Zoning Ordinance needs to be updated . The P lanning Board did not recommend the American Legion PUD . They sent it back to the Town Board . The Town Hoard sent it back and asked if the Planning Board wcul. :i consider emmendinc the 'soni nq Ordinance to put soinethinq like the Legion in a Residential Zone with a Special Permit . One of the Planning B oard members suggested haying more than one Residential stone .. P erhaps one could have a higher intensity . rut who should decide where they go ? The Planning Board needs a road map n tated David . Gary stated that " genera ] . " could pertain to an area , n ot a specific parcel . Then you would not have to re - zone the entire area ( as that changes property vatues ) . Phe Comprehensive Plan could state that in a certain area a parcel may be considered to be re - zoned as it meets the guidelines stated . 3V • TOWN OF ULYSSES 2 MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEETING MARCH 16 , 1993 It was the general feeling of the original Master Plan Committee that the Village was a hub and that it should be kept that way . The Village Board has not shown an interest in the Committee and has not shown up at any of the meetings . If you look at the Village ' s Plan it is basically an exist - ing land use , not changing anything within the Village . They point to pieces outside , surrounding the Village . If it is already Residential it ' s okay to add more . Auble is already zoned , Seafuse ( Shur - Save ) is there , we ' ll let these be the e xpansion of Commercial but the Village does not provide water or services to help them . D avid Tyler said the Village has trouble with their infrastructure . Down the road they are expecting some big capital expenses with their water system . Carl said they ' ve n ever been bashful about raising the rates . Down the road that may not be feasible stated David . J udy queried whether any PUD ' s had ever been turned down ? Auble didn ' t want a PUD as he wanted to be annexed to the Vil - lage . David stated that Alex might know better than anyone ( zoning /building officer ) . Gary stated that there was a consensus that if any of them had been challenged they may w ell have been turned down ( like the American Legion ) . G ary stated that John Czamanski was going to organize all the background material . One way to arrive at the Com - prehensive Plan with such a small committee would be to pro - duce a basic map with different developments highlighted . Next to the various developments would be a list of all the pros and cons gleaned from public input and the Committee . P erhaps 5 or 6 maps would be created originally to narrow it down to the final map, The Committee has been waiting for these maps to arrive . The process can now begin . D avid Tyler mentioned an article from the Journal . A pitch that has been around for a long time is that if you increase your commercial development you will increase your tax base and reduce the tax burden on the Residential property owners . He hasn ' t always agreed with that . There is a good argument for keeping farm land . ( He handed out copies to members . ) Farm land won ' t necessarily stay Agriculture when pressures come along . Perhaps the Town should be encouraged t o make some financial incentives to keep land in an Agricul - t ural zone . The purpose of this group is to make recommend - ations and David stated it ' s important not to be shy about it . J udy mentioned that many people have come to this area who are horse based . They are not as interested in the infra - structure of high retail as perhaps fiber optics . Carl quest - ioned how these people would increase the tax base as their h omes are not commercial businesses . Judy stated that what would help would be what they spend in the community . D avid stated that change is inevitable if you don ' t do anything it ' s going to happen anyway . Why not decide how it will happen ? Or , you will get another Long Island stated J oanne . The Committee looked at a copy of the Town of Ulysses existing land use map . One thing that was discovered was there was a difference between the zoning map and the exist - ing land use map because a lot of the land that may be zoned was not actually being used for that . A good example was an 3dl TOWN OF ULYSSES 3 MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEETING MARCH 16 , 1993 area in Jacksonville that was zoned B1 that actually has houses on it . Some spot checking would be done . This is a beginning , stated Gary . Some of this was done based on old information . For instance the Shur Save was not on it . Gary suggested that he will talk to Bill Hogan . He would like 15 colored copies of the map by the next meeting . The next Master Plan Committee meeting will be March 30 , 1993 at the Town Hall at 7 : 00P . M . The vocabulary must be the same for everyone stated Ruth . We need definitions . Let ' s list the basic recommendations , goals for this group said Gary . David Tyler suggested the following zones : Agricultural , Rural Residential ( on large tracts ) , Traditional Residential ( 1 - 4 acres ) , Multi - Family Residential ( apartment houses ) , Light Traffic Business , more Intense Business Use ( shopping centers ) and Industrial . Gary suggested in preparation for the next meeting everyone take a stab at defining the areas . The meeting was adjourned at 9 : 10 P . M .