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HomeMy WebLinkAbout09-08-2009 TOWN OF GROTON - MINUTES OF TOWN BOARD MEETING TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 8, 2009 AT 7:30 PM THE TOWN HALL, 101 CONGER BOULEVARD Those present: Glenn E. Morey, Supervisor Ellard L. Sovocool, Councilman Donald F. Scheffler, Councilman Richard B. Gamel, Councilman Sheldon C. Clark, Councilman Victoria Monty, Attorney for the Town Also present: Dewey Dawson, John Norman, Gary Coats, Richard C. Case, Jr., April Scheffler, Rosemarie Tucker, Peg Palmer, Teresa Robinson, Don Palmer, Cheryl Lamoreaux, Caralina Kimbrough, David Kimbrough, Robert Eckert, Mike Bartos, Bill Dallaire, Claude Williss, Mike Marcey, Aaron Craig (?), Dean Lamoreaux, David Butts, Renee Butts, Barb Kelley, Carl Kelley, Steven Cute, Patrick Jordan, John Banas, Rosemary Banas, Michael Goyette, Sue Bennett, Joe Bennett, Damon Ferguson, Marcia Sopp, Andrew Crispell, Steve Simons, Lynette Eckert, Hough Heegan, Donna Simons, Caroline Kinne, Nick Babel (?), Robin Snyder, Wayne Snyder, Dusty Snyder, Phylis Dague, James Willsey, George Miller, Daniel Sudilovsky, Alexis Sudilovsky, Lynn Swearingen, Lisa Swearingen, Laura Volpeceli, Mary Shockey, Sandi Swearingen, David Swearingen, Cindy Cute MOVED by Councilman Sovocool, seconded by Councilman Scheffler, to approve the minutes of the August 11, 2009 meeting as presented. Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Gamel, Clark, Morey. MOVED by Councilman Gamel, seconded by Councilman Scheffler, to approve the minutes of the August 11, 2009 Work Session as presented. Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Gamel, Clark, Morey. MOVED by Councilman Scheffler, seconded by Councilman Sovocool, to approve the minutes of the August 18, 2009 Work Session as presented. Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Gamel, Clark, Morey. MOVED by Councilman Clark, seconded by Councilman Gamel, to approve the minutes of the September 2, 2009 Work Session as presented. Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Gamel, Clark, Morey. Town Board Minutes Page 2 September 8, 2009 Claim Numbers 249-286 of the General Fund in the amount of$37,795.04 were presented for audit. MOVED by Councilman Sovocool, seconded by Councilman Scheffler, to approve the General Bills for payment. Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Gamel, Clark, Morey. Claim Numbers 147-165 of the Highway Fund in the amount of$90,957.51 were presented for audit. MOVED by Councilman Clark, seconded by Councilman Gamel, to approve the Highway Bills for payment. Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Gamel, Clark, Morey. Monthly Reports: Gary Coats, Code/Fire Enforcement Officer - Submitted monthly reports for the Board's review. We are proceeding with the Life Safety Inspections and have about six left to finish for this year. Richard C. Case, Jr., Highway Superintendent - At the present time, the shop is up to date with vehicle inspections and the preventive maintenance program. Spreader bars have been designed and fabricated in-house for Trucks #21 and #29. This is in preparation for the asphalt sealing program which will start when scheduling allows. There was some storm damage on Ogden Road, Eden Drive, Murdock Road, Fuller Road and Sears Road. These problems are being addressed this week. Paving has been competed on Stauber Road and Lick Street. Driveways have been back-filled and shoulders will be applied when the paving material has had time to cure. The handicap door project is complete. George Senter, from the Village Code Office has inspected the building and violations have been corrected. The PESH inspection has been addressed and we await their visit. I would also like to request the Board's permission to place the Town's 1994 1-ton dump truck in the municipal auction. RESOLUTION #09-053 - PERMISSION TO PLACE DUMP TRUCK IN MUNICIPAL AUCTION MOVED by Supervisor Morey, seconded by Councilman Sovocool Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Gamel, Clark, Morey RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby grants permission to place the Town of Groton's 1994 Chevrolet, 1-ton dump truck in the Municipal Auction held in Lansing on September 12, 2009 and that the proceeds shall be placed in the DA5130.2, Machinery, Equipment Account. April L. Scheffler, Town Clerk/Tax Collector - Submitted monthly reports for the Board's review. The office has been busy. The photo show during Olde Home Days went well and a lot of positive feedback has been received. Town Board Minutes Page 3 September 8, 2009 Victoria Monty, Attorney for the Town - Had nothing to report. John Norman & A. D. Dawson, Town Justices - Submitted monthly reports for the Board's review. Councilman Donald Scheffler, as Recreation Coordinator - Meeting was been postponed until tomorrow night, so had nothing to report. Patrick Jordan, Auditor from Ciaschi, Dietershagen, Little Mickelson & Company, LLP - Was there to present a brief overview of the audit of the Town's financial records for 2008. Three documents were presented. The first was a required communication to the Town Board which describes the standards that were followed; whether there were any deviations from the engagement letter; where policies are found, whether new policies were adopted; accounting estimates; loans made by the Town that may be uncollectable; corrected misstatements and adjustments; any disagreements with management. There were no problems reported. There is a brief report of the Justice Court records and this report is a representative sample and shows no problems. All money was easily tracked in and out to the proper source. The last document is the full audit report. The draft had been presented to the Board earlier and reviewed in depth at that time. The auditors were very comfortable with the fund balances and overall the Town's finances looked good. The Board had no questions concerning the audit and thanked Mr. Jordan for coming. RESOLUTION#09-54 -ACCEPT AUDIT REPORT MOVED by Supervisor Morey, seconded by Councilman Gamel Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Gamel, Clark, Morey RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby accepts the annual audit of the Town of Groton financial records and the Town of Groton Justice Court records for the year ending December 31, 2008. Supervisor Morey - We're going to move to Privilege of the Floor. Tonight we have a sensitive issue dealing with neighbors' rights. I ask that everyone have respect for the person speaking and give that person the right to speak. We have to remember that we're all neighbors here and tomorrow we're still going to be neighbors. We are going to limit to about four minutes. (Clerk's Note: Some people who spoke did not speak directly into the microphone and therefore some of the words were undistinguishable on the tape when these minutes were transcribed. Undistinguishable words may be indicated with (7) ) Sue Bennett - I'm here to present a petition to the Town Board to restrict concerts, festivals, group events, and public gatherings from infringing on neighbors' peace and quiet. I have a copy of the original petition and six copies. I would like everyone to know that it's not personal. It may seem personal because it is at this time specifically referring to an individual who is having parties or festivals on his property. It wouldn't matter who it is, it's the level of the noise and the traffic and the safety concerns that other people have is the reason why we're doing the Town Board Minutes Page 4 September 8, 2009 petitions. So, when I called, and I know other people called, and talked to the Town Board, specifically Glenn, it was said that the best why to do it was to do a petition. I was hoping it didn't come to that, but I took the time, a couple other neighbors took the time, my sisters, and we took the petition to as many as possible in a country square block. It's Pleasant Valley Road, Old Peruville Road, Sharpsteen Road and there's a map in the packet to show the area that is affected. I spoke with personally over 75 neighbors myself. My husband told me not to get emotional, but it's difficult not to when you talk to all the people and you see how emotional they are also. This was the level of noise that these parties have that makes your house just throb. I don't know if they realize this. I don't even know if they care. But that's what it does to our livelihood and our home. I've lived in this area my whole life. I was born on Old Peruville Road and I've lived there now for 56 years. I hope you can create an ordinance, I'm not saying to stop things, I'm saying to make it so that the neighbors can also maintain their right to peace and quiet. Because everybody knows me, I'd like to have the people who are in favor of this petition to raise their hands so the Board can have a clear understanding of how many people did take the time to...(?).... I think that's significant. You know how people don't like to come to speak. I just hope the Board can do something about this. Robert Eckert - When I first did this, I play in a band called Hammerd. I did this festival to show everybody a good time and be involved in music. We spent hours out there building jumps for the S2S guys. I put in eight sets of horseshoe pits. I invited Mike Bartos and the guys from down here at the horseshoe pits to come up there and play horseshoes while listening to music. I'm also in the midst of building an RC car track which my boy loves doing. So I figured we'd do that to. I brought my old swing set and climber thing for the kids because the first one we did there was nothing for the little kids to do so they were just running around aimlessly. I just thought I was doing a good thing for the neighborhood and the community kind of thing. I realize the music was a little bit loud the first time. Gary (Coats) had a concern with that, so I turned it down. There was also a concern with it going on too late, which I realize probably the first one there was. I realize there's no noise ordinance in the Town of Groton but at the request of Gary I cut it back to 10:30. He told me 10 and I said 10:30. The bands were already scheduled so it was beyond my power at that point in time, when he confronted me, where I could actually change it. You know, I'm trying to work with everybody. I have no guidelines to go by at this point. My guidelines was, I contacted Gary down here and I asked if I needed any permits to do anything. There were no permits needed from here. I had contacted the Health Department down here in Tompkins County. They stated to me that there was no reason to get any permits or anything else. I don't have a gathering of over 5000 people, well, at one time they told me 3,000 people. At the time, they also said for the camping thing, that it was anything over three days is considered a campground. I didn't realize that at the time, and they have contacted me and corrected me on this. I want to have free camping when doing something like this because I'm against people running up and down the road drunk in their cars and I realize people are going to drink beer or whatever and I would rather have everybody stay there. I also hired security at the last one because at the first one there were 886 people and 2 people got out of hand. But thank God, the security that we did have there, the problem was remedied very quickly, the two people were ushered to the front door and we had no problems. I didn't have any other problems. I hired security out of Syracuse and these are five of the biggest animals that you every saw in your life and they're all secured and bonded and everything else. They do security for the President of the United States so I guess if they're good enough for those guys, they're good enough for the festival up there. I'm trying to do everything right. I realize that last time the music was a little more of a harder edge than what people are accustomed to but at the last minute I really didn't have a choice on my bands. I was kind of struggling to make the deadlines and stuff and it showed at the last one I did because we had less than half the people Town Board Minutes Page 5 September 8, 2009 there for that one. Gary asked me to do a few things at the second one that I didn't do at the first one. I'm just trying to make it safe and have an enjoyable time for everybody. I'd like to do a country act, a country day kind of thing where we get nothing but country bands up there. I'm open for any suggestions, if you guys ever read my blog on my website, I'm always try to ask people for their comments. What would you like to see up there? I'm not sure what more you want to hear. Supervisor Morey- Any questions from the Board? Thanks. Dr. Daniel Sudilovsky - Ours is the 64-acre farm that immediately abuts the venue site. Myself and my family are as affected as anyone is. Essentially, while I am not here to demand that things be shut down, I do have several concerns, some of which probably haven't been mentioned yet. I will speak to the sound level. We have a very large, old, very solid Victorian house that was thumping for the entire weekend to the point where we had to vacate our home for both of these weekends. So, to me, my time at home is limited and my ability to spend time with my family is limited and being chased out of my home is not really acceptable to me. We're a half a mile from the venue. At a half a mile the volume level that we're talking about is pretty dramatic. The only comparison I can think of is when the US Military used load music to drive Noriega out of his compound. That's sort of what we feel like. We tried to be good sports until about 11:30 at night and finally had enough. We called to have it shut down. It was too much. I just left this last weekend so I can't speak to any of the events that happened on the street. I can't speak to the noise level, but once was enough for me. I won't speak necessarily to the musical genre other than to say it is not necessarily universally appealing. And the screams of profanity in between songs doesn't help; I have small children. For me the, my next concern, we have a big meeting here now, we have petitions, we have formal complaints. This is now a disclosable business. This affects my property value fairly significant. I have to report this if I put my house on the market as does everybody else within a mile radius here. Tax appraisals are affected by this as well. I have spoken with my attorney about this. Definitely, these sorts of things impact the property values and they can impact the Town if this goes further. The last thing and actually the thing that actually got me involved in this and I have spent several hours this past week, which I didn't really have to spend, doing my homework in terms as what exists and doesn't exist in terms of zoning, insurance requirements, insurance standards, safety standards for other festivals. I spoke to Trumansburg festival people; I spoke Grass Roots Festival people; and there is a standard in terms of security for these types of events; in terms of carrying liability insurance for these sorts of events which also covers the neighbors around. My insurance agent called me this week with concerns that since my property abuts this, and I have a working horse farm; we're a working, breeding horse farm; we have 40 horses including stallions in breeding fields right next to where this is going on. Someone decides while they're camping to have an adventure in one of my horse pastures, somebody could get killed. Liability- wise we're in murky territory there. There are precedents in New York State where owners of property have been successfully sued based on injuries that occurred on their property by trespassers. It's one thing to have a fence to keep a horse in; it's another thing to have a fence that keeps people out. I don't have that. My insurance agent went so far as to say theoretically my insurance company could dump me and that puts my mortgage in jeopardy as well. My attorney also raised the possibility that, your going to hear issues about dangers on the street, whether there was security at the venue, it's not adequate for the security to put these people out on the street that are causing the trouble. The Trumansburg festival has the Sheriff's office, so if they get out of hand they take them away. They don't put them out in the street into the neighborhood. They are forced to carry one million dollars of coverage for the event. My insurance carrier actually suggested that I might have to pay for an insurance voucher for my Town Board Minutes Page 6 September 8, 2009 property so that they will insure me, knowing that there is now a concert venue of this sort, activity venue, as you might call it, next to my property. So, the way that I see this is I recently moved here; we've been here about four years. But we chose to live in this area. Other people have been there their whole lives and choose to stay here. We chose to move here because we wanted a lifestyle that this property afforded us when we bought it. I think that everybody enjoys the semi-rural area. It's not isolated rural area. Everybody enjoys their property and what they are doing on them. To me it's been a point of honor that I don't indulge myself in being offensive to others. In this case, I think that's the whole point. If we're looking for guidelines, at a half mile away I think I have the right to choose my own music and when I listen to it. I think my standard would be don't want to hear it. The Town of Ithaca, it's 25 feet to not only people but animals as well. My horses are running around like idiots the entire time that this is going. I realize this is ......(?)..... I think that the laws have to evolve .(7) and I would love to see this council resolve this issue so that is doesn't have to go further .(9 not speaking into microphone...) Dr. Katherine Wolf- I live next to Dr. Sudilovsky. While I'm not directly abutting the land in question, I'm on the corner. The second was extremely loud. We were actually away the first weekend, so I can't speak for that one. The last weekend I had a family gathering at home. My ..(?) who had left the area were visiting when my son's girlfriend was there and we wanted to have a nice family gathering. Saturday it was the back-beat, boom, boom, boom all day long. And Sunday we could here the words of the people making the announcements and the words of the music. Even when we went in the house, our house is being painted this year, and we couldn't put any of the screens up, so it was shut up and we could still hear it all. And again, it's not our kind of music and I wouldn't subject the neighborhood to a string quartet because I don't think people......(?).. I'm also disturbed by the idea that if they have a problem, the trouble makers are thrown out on the street. That doesn't help us (not using microphone). I asked Lynette, after she came around to talk to the neighbors, the question that I heard about underage kids drinking and she said we don't serve them any alcohol; we don't let anyone in underage without an adult. I don't know if that's true or not. Well, I know it's not because I know an underage person who was there without a parent. But Lynette said they don't serve the kids alcohol but they couldn't control what other people who came in served them and that they said that wasn't their responsibility. If you're going to have a commercial, paying venue I think maybe you do have a responsibility to make sure that people aren't giving it to them. Hugh Keegan - I own the property that borders right up against Mr. Eckert. I have a business in Cortland County and was also a former ZBA Chair for the City of Cortland. I was the chair for three years and I was on the Board for seven. As you already know, you're looking at a Pandora's Box with this thing. You've got some zoning and code issues which have to be addressed one way or another. You've got to create the code or at least follow the zoning and codes that are in force right now. Secondly, I think the doctor referred to it, is you've got some tax assessment issues going on here if this property continues to be developed and if it's used for multiple purposes where it's an ongoing commercial venue. So, we're looking at, what agricultural or residential property turning into light commercial? So, we assume that our assessment rates are going to be going down now and we're going to be paying less taxes because of this. And if he's collecting or making money off of what he's doing there, what kind of corporate entity, is it a s-corp, c-corp or...(?) Did he collect sales tax at the last venues that he had? If he did, how much did you get? Have you looked into it yet? If you're not collecting sales tax from him, are you going to do that with all the businesses in the Town? So, you've got a real Pandora's Box going on here. The only way you're going to settle this is to really lock down the code and zoning issues because then no matter what happens with anybody in the area, Town Board Minutes Page 7 September 8, 2009 as you know, they've got to get approval from their neighbors to do whatever activity they really want to do. So, my suggestion is that you really look your code and zoning laws and really tighten them up. Dustin Snyder - I know the first one that went on, I actually ended up going later at night because I do kind of enjoy the music that they played. I'm young, 20 years old, I know what it is. So, I ended up going to that one and they say no underage drinking, you have to have somebody there, or whatever. Well, I graduated with 95% of the people that were there, that were my age. They were running around with beers in their hands. I know one kid was on "shrooms" running around with a big old belt that had a beer in each loop and I know he was underage because I graduated with him along with another kid who was there. They were smoking pot around the bonfire they had there. And I don't do any of this stuff. I'm a behaved 20-year old, believe it or not. I don't care for the drug scene or the alcohol scene, so on and so forth. So, whether they say they don't allow the alcohol or use of drugs there, they do, I saw it with my own to eyes and that's why I didn't go to the second one. Profanity over the mike, that's one thing that a lot of people don't care for, but me, whatever I guess. I listen to the same kind of music but yet when somebody gets in my truck that doesn't like it, I shut it off. It's just common courtesy, turn it down or whatever, don't listen to it. All these things that I seen when I was there, I went to school with Bobby Eckert, their son, and he's a great kid. He was my friend forever and ever and I don't want it to stop, I just want something to happen where they keep an eye on stuff I know one went through the woods to sneak in. I was at my friend's house and here he comes out the woods, sneaking out. I was like, where did you go, oh, I snuck down to the festival. I said what's wrong with you and he said, I got "baked." So, he was down there with the campers, smoking pot and getting drunk and he's like 18. So, their little security thing that they had going evidently wasn't good enough. They were just letting stuff slide, everything like that. So, there's my view. Lynette Eckert - As for all that, that Justin just said, I guess I can't attest to that because I worked at the gate. If people are sneaking in, and that was the first I've heard of that, then I suggest we put up a fence around the perimeter for more safety to help from going out and sneaking in or getting out and bothering the neighbors. Like my husband said, it's only our second event and we're learning as we go. Obviously, it sounds like we didn't do enough research but we did call as many officials that we could in this town and Tompkins County and the Health Board. We did have security; we did have a million dollars coverage in event insurance; we have all receipts and papers to show proof that.....(?). I do have some neighbors' signatures. I didn't get as many as probably they did. It was just me and I have two kids. As for some of the complaints that some of the neighbors are saying somebody came out of the gate with a gun or something, Grandpa and I were at the gate all night and if that had happened I would have called the police myself because my husband and I don't like guns. A lot of the immediate neighbors didn't see any such thing. The neighbor right across the street didn't see any of that. So, as for anything happening down in there, I wasn't aware of any drug use happening. If my security failed me, I will be calling them because I was unaware of any of that. We don't use drugs; my son doesn't do drugs. That's not what this is for. That's his livelihood, music, it's all he has left. So, he just wants to have a good time and perform and he did try to make it a more family oriented event. He made homemade games; had a dunk booth; (7) and all that. I do apologize for the noise level but we did cut it off at 10, 10:30 like we were asked to do. If it was still loud, as I told Ms. Bennett, someone should call me if it's still too loud. Someone complained the first time, so we turned it down. It's not like we want to drive our neighbors out. My husband's just trying to enjoy his music. Town Board Minutes Page 8 September 8, 2009 Dean Lamoreaux - I'm here to support Mr. Eckert. I've known Bob for approximately 30 years. He was a Boy Scout in my troop back in the Town of Danby years ago. His son just got his Eagle Award a couple years ago. Bob's parcel up there is 140 acres. We're not talking about a 3-acre back yard. He probably pays more real estate taxes than anybody in the Town of Groton. I think last year he paid about $25,000 in real estate taxes, and you can check the record for that. Bob lost his dad when he was about 13. His dad was a drummer and Bob followed his father's footsteps. He's a very, very excellent drummer. Even though he's blind, people are absolutely amazed at some of the things that Bob can do. Music is his life. He likes to entertain and he likes to play the drums. We reside probably 800 yards from his function. I do not have my walls shaking; I do not have my windows vibrating. You can hear just a little, low murmur but it's not something that would knock your ears off. So, in support of him, we have petitioned in support of Bob as well. Wayne Snyder - This is about the third time that I've heard that is Bob's livelihood. What about everybody else's livelihood? I built approximately 600 feet off the road 16 years ago so that I would have privacy, so I didn't have to listen to the road noise and just be secluded back where I'm just by myself. I like my privacy. Nobody asked well I heard he's got 140 acres and he pays a lot of taxes. Nobody told him to build a five hundred thousand dollar house. Nobody told him to buy 140 acres of land. I pay taxes too. The noise level, I can't believe that the gentleman just here said he was 800 feet away and couldn't hear it because I'm a lot further away than 800 feet and I sure as hell could hear it. I mean when my window's closed,just that bumping in your chest,just makes you a nervous wreck. Probably if you could hear the guitars once in awhile or some other instruments but all you hear is that constant boom, boom, boom, and it just wracks on your nerves. I mean, I work for Crown Construction; I put in over 50 hours a week for them; and I work for myself on the side. So, I put in a lot of hours and my weekends, what weekends I have, I like to come home, sit in my back yard, have a cookout, have my family over or whatever and you just can't do it. The way I look at it, they got bands, the first one was one day, the second one was two days. Then you're talking it's going to change, then it's going to be go-carts, then it's going to lights and then it's going to be this and that. I don't think we need it. So, I think something should be done. David Kimbrough - I'm a member of the band Hammerd. First thing I'd like to say is we're not trying to do this to make anybody mad; we're not trying to hurt anybody. There is nothing going on in this area; there's no town carnival; there's nothing. Bobby decided to start doing this so kids had somewhere to go. We made it more of a family oriented thing for the second one. As for the noise levels at the first one, we were louder at the first one than we were at the second one because Gary told us that we had complaints and we turned it down. At the first one, I personally walked around with a decibel meter. At 250 yards from the stage, the decibels were 98 decibels. A noise ordinance is 90 decibels. I work construction and the circular saw in your hand is 86 decibels. So, it's not as loud as everybody is trying to say it is. We went through every step that we could take to find out what we had to do to have this thing. We've gone by every guideline that anybody has given us. We're not out to hurt anyone; we just want people to have a good time. Robin Snyder - I appreciate the fact that they want everyone to have a good time but with everything that my son witnessed there, that needs to be taken into consideration what they think is a good time. Also, too, we don't have parties. I'm a classic rocker myself .(?)....but there again too I don't have it blaring so my neighbors can hear it. So, we appreciate all they have to say, but why would we all be sitting here tonight, this is our night off, this is our night, this is our night to be home with our family, if this didn't mean something to us too as Town Board Minutes Page 9 September 8, 2009 neighbors? This is important to us. I've never been to anything like thus in my life, ever. My son, to get up here and say what he had to say, that was hard for him. I had to beg him to do it. He did that for me because of what he saw down there. So, ....(?)....we don't like to have problems with our neighbors; it's not what we want. I wish it was back to the old days where everybody knocked on door and bringing dishes over but sadly it's not like that. And like you said, when we leave here we're all going to be neighbors still and I hope we can be happy and get along together but we need our peace and quiet. Lynn Swearingen - I'm a neighbor on the backside as well. The noise level is very irritating, very loud. Not to the point, again, to reiterate again on what other people said, you hear the boom, boom, boom. I'm sure all of you have experienced while you're sitting in your car, some younger kid perhaps, is behind you with a boom box in his car and it's bang, bang, bang. And when you're further away that seems to be the only thing that really travels the distance is the boom, boom, the base sounds, the drums, that's what you hear. It sounds like Indians. I don't care what kind of music you have, that's what you're going to hear. It's just the tempo of the sound which gets on your nerves. I know we have a lot of angry neighbors, concerned neighbors. There needs to be a lot of perimeters, something, some kind of guidelines that need to have put in place, otherwise we're going to have, again, what somebody else said, a Pandora's Box opening and this could be the start of something like that. I know of other festivals that they've tried around, like Woodstock and some other festivals down Elmira way that they've tried before and stuff. Things do get out of hand. They turn buses over, and cars over, burn them, lit them on fire and stuff. You can have security, but when you have that many people there's not a lot you can do about security. So, that is a big concern of mine, is security and the noise level. We live in the country; all of us choose to live in the country; most of us grew up in the country so we enjoy the peaceful life. I think to subject somebody to something that they're not accustomed to or that they don't like is just wrong. I think this is kind of a unique situation in that living in the country in a rural setting that we do there's quite a bit more population in that area than there would be a farm that has 500 acres on one side of you and another 500 acres here and 1000 there. So, that's kind of a big concern too, that this is a little more heavily populated area. Mike Bartos - I'm a neighbor and live about a mile away. I ran the horseshoe tournament. Sunday, when I was at my house, I couldn't even hear it a mile away. I don't live down the valley, I live above it and from above it I couldn't hear it from my house. I had to drive down the road and put my window down and then I could hear it but it didn't seem as loud as people are saying, but they live down the valley so I can't speak for them. But for myself, it wasn't that loud. I didn't even hear the base from my house. I thought maybe they weren't playing on Sunday, so I drove down by the road to go in and then I could hear it. From my house I couldn't hear it and I just wanted to make that statement. Bill Dallaire - I was a food vendor there. I sat on top of the hill to sell food...within the fenced in area right directly in front of the PA and I could talk to my customers and my customers could talk to me not louder than I'm speaking right now. I do know a lot about sound reinforcement though and I'd like to explain something to make everybody understand a little bit better. I've done sound myself, not for this particular show because I was the food vendor. The sound where I was standing, directly in front of the PA, like I said, I didn't speak much louder than I am now to sell hotdogs, hamburgers, chicken, whatever and my customers could talk back to me. And this was directly right in front of where the bands were playing in front of the show. Sound does have a way of traveling, especially base, but at the festival, what I do agree with, it wasn't that loud. But down the road, two miles down the road, sound waves open up and they keep opening Town Board Minutes Page 10 September 8, 2009 up as they go further and further down the valley. I think the major complaint is here that maybe the bands are facing the wrong way. Maybe the stage needs to be turned in a different direction and not go down the valley. Sunday, really, like I said, standing 200 yards away from where all the bands are playing, probably more like 150 yards from where I was on the top of the hill selling the food, directly in front of the bandstand, directly in front of the PA, I could speak less louder than I am right now and I could talk to my customers and my customers could talk to me. That was the actual volume at the show. I think what's happening is that as the sound waves go down the valley, open up, and what's happening is this is where they're talking about the thump, thump, thump noise. So maybe the solution to that is to figure out the geographical demographics of the land and figuring out a different placement of the actual sound so that it's not going down that valley creating it louder and louder as it goes. That's just a suggestion that I have. I know Bobby's son, Bobby, he helped me get my food stand set up and I asked him to walk around the entire perimeter and if it was loud or anything and he walked around the whole block of the neighborhood.....(7) an I doubt that he's hard of hearing. But I just want to vouch for the fact that right on the show I don't believe that it was any louder than 94 decibels and that's at the sound console which is what any normal country show or anything like that. Sandy Swearingen - I just want to say that I was born in Peruville; I moved to Lansing; I moved back to make a retirement home there. I bought 52 acres. I live next door to with the horses. It is very loud and I did.....(7) I told them that you can't imagine. I don't have central air and I have to have my windows open and this makes it so I can't have my windows open. So, we roast in the house and have our television turned up louder because I can still hear the words to songs in there. I can tell you when they turn it off or turn it down because I can judge it by the thump, thump, thump and some of the words. I know that the Village of Groton has an ordinance to protect the Village people. They have a noise ordinance; they have an ordinance on festivals. I did get copies of those. I would like to say that I would like to be afforded the same rights as the people who live in the Village of Groton. They know that they are going to be close to neighbors and they know that there might be a little kid who has to practice an instrument. We're not talking about somebody practicing an instrument. We're talking about someone subjecting us to music for over 12 hours a day. On Saturday it was that length of time. That's a whole different thing to be subjected that long to that kind of music. And it's not just the kind of music, I like peace and quiet and I'd like to able to turn the volume down. I don't have that luxury here.......(?)...I don't think it would matter if I did call because nobody would be home, in the house, if they were working at the.....and my husband said something that was interesting. I said something on the way here about how to me this is a business that they're running. It is not a festival. You can hide behind that title of a festival; it's not a festival. I used to be a business owner, I had to go through all the proper channels to have a business in the Town of Lansing. I had to make sure that I was open certain hours that wouldn't affect my neighbors. I would think that if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it really is a duck. You need to look at, they are making money off of it and if they take a wash, then they're poor business people. It sounds like they want to continue and if they are concerned about the amount of noise that's going to come out of this festival in the fall, I was told by Lynette myself that he was going to have one in the fall and have hayrides. and it would be great if it was going to be geared towards children but the leaves are going to be off the trees and I'm going to hear it even louder. The air is going to be thicker and denser and it's going to just sit there out my back door. Even on his own blog, he spoke about how it shook his own windows in his house at 2000 feet away. So, yeah, they even said it shook their own house, it did shake other people's homes as well. Town Board Minutes Page 11 September 8, 2009 Renee Butts - My husband and I live exactly next door to Bob and Lynette. We moved there almost a year ago now and we both grew up in the Town of Groton. We have two little kids and we chose to live in this area because we enjoy the rural area, a great experience growing up, and we wanted our children to have the same experience. Never thought we'd have a big festival out back. First party was loud but we gave them the benefit of the doubt, figured it would be a one- day thing. It lasted late, very loud. Then they had the second one. The second one was incredibly louder. It wasn't just a thump, thump, thump, but you walked in the house and it's thump, thump, thump in the whole house. We tried to have family over for a barbeque that night, Saturday night, and we couldn't. We went in the house and my family said I cannot believe you put up with this constant thumping. If you went outside you could hear the words; it wasn't just the thumping. So, we felt like, what do we do and it lasted all weekend. You couldn't enjoy or do anything. On top of that, besides the noise, which we ....just accept the noise pollution. Our children are not big at all. The traffic has picked up incredibly in the area; cars constantly, motorcycles, everything just up and down the road. My husband was out in front of the house and had a beer can thrown at him. We've had to pick up multiple beer cans in the lawn. Just around the corner from my house, near the corner of Torok Road and Pleasant Valley, there was a sign and it said, Keep Going Mother Fers. I know they claim this is something for children. My father-in-law went to the first one. He had run into Bob and gotten a free ticket and went. He had a fine time, it was a party, but he said absolutely nothing for family and he would not suggest us to take our kids at all. I know that has been an argument that just does not seem logical at all. The last thing I'd like to say is me and my husband and my family and all of the neighbors here, this is not our choice. All of their fans, their bands, people who want to go to their parties, that's their choice. They're paying for the tickets, they're going, they're enjoying the music that they enjoy, but this is not our choice. We don't have a choice. So, that's why we're here talking to you because we should still have a voice in all of this. Steve Simons - I own land on Clark Street and Sharpsteen Road. I'm here basically to look at the situation we have here. I think there were some things brought up about different people and some things said about Gary that I have to refute a little bit. I think Gary is doing a great, great job. I think he's interpreting the Code the best he can. Looking on the Town's website, it looks like everything's a draft, nothing has been accepted, so I'm going to be pulling some things from the 2007 draft and the 2009 draft. First off, looking at this, this is classified by our maps as a rural agricultural area up there, which is very specific in uses, what can be done with it. In our own Code it states that Rural Agricultural land is mainly for agricultural purposes or the continuation of some farming activities or such. As far as this goes, I think we can apply some of this because we do have in our own code land use activities, doesn't say if it's one time and I think from Bob's own words, he wants to make this an on-going use, whether it be for the go- carts, festivals or events. He's charging money to get into this so it's actually an event, almost a business as we said. Under land use activities, it says land use activities appear in one of the following categories; they are specified for each one. We also have a list of all the land use activities in a rural agricultural area. Looking down through there, there is nothing listed for events such as festivals and such. It says land uses not listed on the land use table are considered to be prohibited pursuant to section 302 of the article. It says it is recognized that an applicant may be seeking a land use that does not clearly fall within the categories, the code officer shall deny the land use being sought as prohibited or refer it to the Town Board for review. Obviously none of this was done because we are in uncharted territory here. I think, what I said, I think Gary was looking at things the best he could without going above and beyond his duties as the code enforcer. I think we do have these codes enforced right now. It also means if permitted, if we look under our own descriptions, Bob stated that he was basically supplying areas for campgrounds. Campgrounds, be it for a group or private campground is listed in the Town Board Minutes Page 12 September 8, 2009 codes. It says that any parts of lands where more than one and not more than five recreation tent sites, shelters.....or recreational vehicle sites, which obviously he was providing sites, it says on a seasonal or transient basis and not occupied for more than 90 days, which this kind of falls into. You need a permit to have that kind of campground. Obviously that wasn't done. So I think just right now under our own code, he should have had a permit for doing this. But then, looking at the perspective that everyone else is looking at, my land is probably a half mile east, which is opposite of where the speakers were going. The gentleman who was here addressing the sound issue, there is a lot of different ways you can look at sound and a lot of different ways you can measure sound. I was an engineer with Smith Corona and we did a lot of sound measurements on equipment that we did. One of the things is the level of the speakers. If the speakers are up high, you can stand right in front of the speaker and you're not going to get blasted,but once you get back away, you're going hear. I personally was in the parking lot at the church down at the corner of Peruville and I could understand the words to the songs. So, obviously, it was loud enough, and that's more than a half mile away. At my house, which is a half mile away the other way, I could hear the music. It wasn't like these people were saying, but I could hear it, just to say it was loud enough so I could hear it and it was opposite of the direction of the speakers. Hopefully they don't decide to turn the speakers around and blast it at my house, because then I would be upset more than I am now. I think looking at this, looking at our own codes and what we are trying to designate for our rural agricultural, I know that the Town Board, one of the things that Don Scheffler and some of the other guys are trying to do, they're trying to save our agricultural lands. It's been sold off for housing development, other things. I know the Board has put in place a lot of different protective codes that will kind of keep enough agricultural land there. This is not in compliance with any rural agricultural codes, per say. I think we're opening a big can of worms to allow something like this to happen because it's just going to escalate from here. Cheryl Lamoreaux - I'm Bob Eckert's mom. In his defense, I'd like to go over a couple things that people have talked about. I think on the whole, Bob is being judged by the first festival that he had. Yes, I will grant you, it was a little loud, but the second one, he turned it way down a great deal. He hired some friends to be security at the first one, yes it did get a little out of hand and there was a little too much drinking. The second one, he learned by that one. He went out and hired security. For the second one he posted signs that there would be no underage drinking permitted. We took some photos that reiterate that. We told the security that anyone who doesn't have a wristband on or was underage drinking, they were kicked out of the place. We did have a young lady that was drinking and she was kicked out, that we were aware of, that Lynette and I were aware of, and security did the rest. So, I think we're being judged a lot by the first festival. Someone said it's not safe for children. We have a lot of children's' things for them to do; games; we have swing sets. I brought some photos for you to look at of what goes on while we're up there. The first session, yes, it was a little late but the second festival that we had, we did shut it down at 10:30 and it became quiet. As for tax appraisals, well, Bob's afraid that his taxes are going to go up because of this too, so that's a concern. There is plenty of insurance a million dollar liability. You're more than welcome to view that. We have port- a-potties, so that's not polluting. Somebody has said we don't have them but we do. As for security, we had wonderful security there. We had five people and they were at the gates, checking for wristbands, checking for glass bottles and checking for underage drinking. They were at the gate and then we had three of them walking around checking to see that there was no underage drinking in the compound. For Mr. Snyder, when he said on the first one, yes there was some dinking on the first one. We have corrected that, you know this is all a trial and error and we're doing the best that we can. We're learning, too, along the way. Bob also pays taxes too. Everyone is saying their taxes, they are entitled to complete quiet. Well, I hear the farmers Town Board Minutes Page 13 September 8, 2009 out there with their tractors and trucks and stuff in the fields, and sometimes even late at night. I didn't hear anyone complain about that one. We also do donations too. You know, this is also a benefit. The Boy Scouts were up afterwards, Sunday morning, and they were picking up the soda and beer cans. We asked people coming in, we told them that we were collecting for the Boy Scouts and people were bringing their cans and bottles and we have a big trailer there for cans for the Scouts. We were doing that and a lot of people brought cans with them when they came. We also collected money for the young boy in Candor that was in an accident. We had a benefit for him up there. It's not just for Bob. Bob, yes, enjoys it, but he also has it mind of giving it to the community and helping organizations in the community like Meals on Wheels and anybody that there's a need for. Somebody else said that they wanted somebody to raise their hands in non-support of Bob; I'd like to have everybody raise their hands that are in support of Bob. (People do that.) The noise level, like I said is greatly turned down. You can see by the photos here, which I'd like everybody to take a look at, that it is family oriented. We have areas for the children. It's a fun time. We have vendors up there; we have food vendors. We have BMX bikes, you know where they have the loops and stuff up there. But the kids, you know, all enjoy that. And we have a band; we have a swing set; we have horseshoes; we have a dunking tank that everybody enjoys; we have balloon popping. As for sales tax, yes Bob does pay sales tax on all of this. He's not making money at it, but it's the second time. We also have a first aid station in case anybody has any problems up there. We're going to get a little bit more refined. There's 160 acres and he wants to enjoy his property just as much as everybody else wants to enjoy theirs. I'd like to put these (photos) up here and everybody, whatever you like, pass them around. Councilman Gamel asked that she hand the photos to him and they were passed around to the Board. Sue Bennett - I do want to clarify a couple of things. One, I understand that's Bob's family and they're trying to support his effort but his effort is affecting all of his neighbors. They say that it isn't loud, it's loud. And this isn't the second one, they had one last year and then they had two this year. You can hear the words to the songs. If I could have figured out how to download the songs so you could hear some of the words to the songs, they are appalling. I also, personally saw, and someone is trying to discount this, at my age about all I have left is my word, I'm sure some of you can understand getting older and that's all you have left, I pulled out of Marvin Torok's driveway, went to go west on Pleasant Valley Road on Sunday night around 5:30 or so, second day of the second festival this year, and there were two teenagers walking from the driveway that you would use to go to the festival, walked out, walked west on Pleasant Valley Road with a rifle down by their side. They tried to hide it more when they saw me going down the road. Now, I saw that myself. Another neighbor, who isn't here, she got home at 10:30 on Saturday night. There were five to six teenagers in the road on Pleasant Valley Road, wouldn't move out of the way. She had taken her kids to Seabreeze and she beeped her horn and they started giving her a bunch of crap, you know the mouth and stuff, and they even threw a beer can or beer bottle at her car and then she got her kids in the house. Less than an hour later, someone was passed out in their truck in front of her house and she sent someone else out to go knock on the person's truck door to see what they were doing because their head was slumped into the steering wheel. This is what's being brought into our town. I hope you take the time to read all the notes in the petition. They're very important and I just ask that you do the right thing for the neighbors too. George Miller - I feel for Mr. Eckert but I live in the country because I like the peace and quiet environment. If I wanted a festival sort of life I'd move to town, move to Ithaca. My property Town Board Minutes Page 14 September 8, 2009 abuts right on his and ....the noise.... I'm not going to put up with that. I advocate holding up our taxes until something's done about it. Now, if Mr. Eckert has too much money and so much time, he certainly ought to be able to find...(?) to help the community and find something that doesn't upset all the community and I hope he does or this is not going to go away. David Kimbrough - I'd just want to let everybody know that for both events, the Sheriff and the State Police Department were called and notified and there were several Sheriff's cars in the area patrolling the area for both events. So, if somebody was passed out in their truck, the Sheriff's Department should have got them. David Swearingen - I have a truck that has a loud stereo. I understand that can bother people. I turn it down in my backyard. I don't want to upset my neighbors. I've had a stereo in a truck that had only 8 inch speakers and have got talked to by the cops downtown Groton before. It went across the whole football field and was shaking the announcement booth, I guess. I didn't know it; at my truck it didn't sound that loud; sound does travel. I'm 23, yeah the music might be somewhat like I would listen to, but most people have the option to change the radio station if they don't like it. We don't have that option at our houses anymore. It upsets me. I have lived at my house for three years; my parents might own it but I will be buying it shortly; it kind of makes you second-guess it. I like to be around my family; most of my mom's side of the family lives on that road; it upsets the whole neighborhood. Everybody should have the right to be upset and everybody should be entitled to do their own thing but how much do you want people to really suffer? Joe Bennett - I'd like to sum up the amount of time it has taken for the area of a country block to get behind the petition that my wife started. I think the number of people that have signed the petition speaks to the percentage of people that are affected by this festival. I'd like to speak to the security issue. I was one of at least three households that called the police on the night of the first festival of this year. When the State Trooper showed up at our house, he told us between the Tompkins County Sheriffs Department and the Troopers there were only three cars on the road that night. He came right out and said they were outnumbered; no way did they want to go on the premises. That should speak to the demeanor of what was going on that night. They said that they would patrol the road and I believe that they did that. They also said that if it lasted much past 1:00 then they would call for reinforcement and they would shut it down. So, I'm not so sure that any form of police that were in the vicinity, at least for the first party of this year, were by Bob Eckert's choosing. Robert Eckert -Yes it was. Joe Bennett - Well, I talked to the Trooper and it didn't appear that way. So, again, I think this has gone way past just a fun, family festival. To me it's the noise. What goes on on his property is no concern of mine but how the noise affects my way of life is a big concern of mine and I do believe a big concern of everybody who signed the petition. Dustin Snyder - I just have one question for the Eckert family. What took so long in consideration to go around to people's houses and ask them what they thought of the whole festival thing? Why didn't you do this before you had the festivals if you knew you were going to be playing loud music, there's going to be profanity over the mikes, there's going to be alcoholic beverages there, so on and so forth? What took so long? After you found out there was a petition going around, then you moved and went around to people's houses. Well, then it was too late. It was too late to try to make good. You had to wait until people opened their Town Board Minutes Page 15 September 8, 2009 mouths and started talking about it before you decided to talk to people about your festivals or whatever. Wayne Snyder - The first festival, I went to the State Troopers barracks on Route 13 and they didn't even know about the festival. So, they said that if the Troopers knew about it, they didn't know about it. They said that the dispatch up there, they had no idea. They said they would patrol if they could. As far as I know two people were picked up for DWI, is what I heard, from the party. Steve Simons - I'd just like to address some of the comments that were made by Bob's as far as the farmers and what people claim about the farmers. Bob, when he obtained his building permit it states very clearly on there that this is a Right to Farm area which means that the farmers are allowed to do whatever they need to do to plant their crops. This is why we, as rural people who live in the country, this is part of what we grew up with, we like this kind of stuff. We like the farmes, to hear them, to see them out there, to smell the cut grass, to know they're out there. That's something they have a right to do by our own code and Bob was aware of it when he built his house there, or he should have been because he actually applied for a building permit. Again, I have to rely on and go back to our own codes. Permitted uses on rural agricultural says no land shall be used for any purposes or purpose other than the following and it gives a specific list of uses and this is not in that list of uses. Going back to the other code, 2007, in here it's talking about if a permit is granted, it says the proposed activity for which a special permit is desired is in harmony with uses permitted within the district where the activity is proposed. This obviously is not an agricultural harmony. And the health, safety and general welfare of the community will not be adversely impacted by the proposed activity for which a special permit is desired. This clearly is against our own zoning code right now. We have in our own laws, dog ordinances, barking dogs, nuisance dogs. We have a right to call the authorities to have a barking dog removed from the premises. Why? Why is there a law against it? Because if it bothers us, it disturbs our own peace, our own well-being in or house. This falls right into the same category. Same thing, if we have a barking dog ordinance then we need a noise ordinance for any kind of activity such as this. Sounds like a no-brainer to me. Robert Eckert - I understand now, we all pay for our taxes and we're all living in the same community. I'm not, you guys are looking at it like, I'm going to do this every weekend. Well, guess what everybody, I don't know if you guys ever put on anything like this, because there's a lot of work that goes into this. I'm not trying to be a nuisance to you, or your neighbor, or my neighbor, or the guy 16 miles down the road, I'm not. This is supposed to be fun. Miss Bennett, you know, I'm not here to point fingers at you, I'm just saying that, you know, if you saw somebody out in front with a gun, please, I beg you, call the cops. I've got to be honest with you, I don't allow hunting on my property, and Mr. Snyder, you know that. You already know this because you already confronted me because you already told me "I hunted this property my whole life." I understand that, but I'm a no hunting guy. I do not like guns nor will I ever consider anything with guns. If you guys see guns out there, or if I see guns, or if I know about guns, anywhere in the vicinity of my property, I don't care if they're hunting or if they're doing anything, if there's guns on my property, I want somebody to call the cops because I don't deal with that. Outside of that, we're all in the same community. I'm not doing this in spite of all you guys. Sue Bennett - Then stop. Robert Eckert - That's... Town Board Minutes Page 16 September 8, 2009 Sue Bennett - Then stop, Bob. You just said (both people talking at once).... Supervisor Morey- Okay, okay, let's not have personal attacks.... Robert Eckert - I'm just saying, give me one or two weekends a year. Several people start making comments at once. Supervisor Morey - I'm going to close the public comments right now. We're getting a little heated. Let me say a couple things. This is new territory for us. We've never had to do this before. For the last three years we've been rewriting the code regulations for the Town of Groton and believe me, it's a monumental job. We're trying to replace an ordinance that was written in 1992. We tried once to get it through and the County made other suggestions so we've had to go back and try to do this. Ever since Sue made this a point to the Board, we've been investigating ordinances for mass gatherings. We don't believe in a noise ordinance. We don't want to get involved with regulating weddings and family reunions and graduation parties, but we do want to regulate mass gatherings in excess of 500 people or something like that. But we do have some issues to consider. We have to make sure that there is public safety and crowd control and traffic control, security issues, insurance issues, sanitation, water, a rescue plan, notifying the fire chief and police, and a first aid issue. I was happy to see there was a tent there. So, this is some of the things that we're going to be going over the next couple of months. In order to pass the ordinance we will have to have a public hearing and I'd be more than happy to have April put it on our website. We've already looked at six ordinances from various areas, with the help of our legal council and April looking at different towns and villages. So, that's what we're going to do for you. I don't see anything out there that says Bob can't do this,but we want a little respect as being neighbors and that's all you're expecting, a little consideration. Is that true? Mr. Miller -No, I don't think I want to hear it at all. Several other people begin to comment and Supervisor Morey states that there will be no more comments. RESOLUTION#09-055 - 2009 BUDGET TRANSFER MOVED by Supervisor Morey, seconded by Councilman Gamel Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Gamel, Clark, Morey General Fund-Part Town: From: Contingency B1990.4 .$1,134.63 To: Youth, Summer Jobs B7310.1 1,134.63 RESOLUTION#09-056- 2009 BUDGET TRANSFER MOVED by Supervisor Morey, seconded by Councilman Scheffler Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Gamel, Clark, Morey Highway Fund- Town Wide: From: Sick Time DA5142.12 $838.24 To: Bridges,Personal Services DA5120.4 838.24 Town Board Minutes Page 17 September 8, 2009 RESOLUTION#09-057- 2009 BUDGET TRANSFER MOVED by Supervisor Morey, seconded by Councilman Sovocool Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Gamel, Clark, Morey Highway Fund -Part Town: From: General Repairs, Personal Services DB5110.1 $284.29 To: Health Insurance DB9060.8 284.29 RESOLUTION #09-058 - NAME TOWN OF GROTON AS LEAD AGENCY MOVED by Supervisor Morey, seconded by Councilman Scheffler Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Gamel, Clark, Morey RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby names the Town of Groton as Lead Agency for the purpose of New York State Environmental Quality Review as part of the approval process for the updated Town of Groton Land Use &Development Code. RESOLUTION#09-059 -APPOINT REPRESENTATIVES TO HEALTH CARE CONSORTIUM MOVED by Supervisor Morey, seconded by Councilman Clark Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Gamel, Clark, Morey RESOLVED,that the Town Board hereby appoints Glenn Morey, as representative, and Donald Scheffler, as alternate, to the Tompkins County Health Care Constortium RESOLUTION#09-060 - COURT CLERK TO ATTEND CONFERENCE MOVED by Supervisor Morey, seconded by Councilman Gamel Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Gamel, Clark, Morey RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby approves payment of expenses for the Court Clerk, Cindy Vicedomoni, to attend the New York State Court Clerks Association Conference in Albany,NY on October 4-7, 2009. RESOLUTION #09-061 - ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS MEMBERS TO ATTEND CONFERENCE MOVED by Supervisor Morey, seconded by Councilman Sovocool Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Gamel, Clark, Morey RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby approves payment of expenses for Zoning Board of Appeals Members, Lyle Raymond and Steve Thane, to attend the New York State Planning Federation Conference in Lake Placid,NY, on September 13-15, 2009. Town Board Minutes Page 18 September 8, 2009 Rosemarie Tucker, Town Historian - The book that I am working on for Groton is due out in November. This past year I also worked on the book with all the appointed historians in Tompkins County and that book came in today, so you all get a copy of the book. (Councilman Gamel exclaims, "awesome!") We made the cover with one of our pictures. We don't have a lot of pictures in here but I did scan them all for the whole County. RESOLUTION #09-062 - BUDGET WORK SESSION SCHEDULE MOVED by Supervisor Morey, seconded by Councilman Gamel Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Gamel, Clark, Morey RESOLVED,that the Town Board hereby sets the follow Budget Work Sessions: Wednesday, September 16 @ 5:00 pm- Court Thursday, September 17 @ 4:00 pm- Highway Employees; @ 4:45 pm- Town Clerk Tuesday, September 22 @ 7:00 pm - Highway Thursday, September 24 @7:00 pm Tuesday, September 29 @ 7:00 pm Work Sessions for Code Review were set for Tuesday, September 15 and Tuesday September 22 at 6:00 pm. Announcements: ➢ Zoning Board of Appeals - September 23, 2009 @ 7:00 pm ➢ Planning Board- September 17, 2009 @ 7:30 pm ➢ Letter received requesting stop sign at intersection of Route 222 and Salt Road ➢ Request for horse &buggy sign on Clark Street Extension ➢ The Town's application for CDBG Rehabilitation Grant Funds submitted by Better Housing for Tompkins County was not approved. ➢ Farm City Days - Marlindale Farms - September 12, 2009 @ 11:00 am- 4:00 pm ➢ Next Board Meeting - October 13, 2009 @ 7:30 pm There being no further business, Councilman Sovocool moved to adjourn, seconded by Councilman Scheffler, at 9:13 pm. Unanimous. April L. Scheffler, RMC Town Clerk