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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1993-10-20 247 TOWN OF DANBY TOWN BOARD MINUTES Special Meeting , and Budget Work Session 7 : 00 P . M . October 20 , 1993 PRESENT : Supervisor Oltz Councilpersons : Hile , Marisa , Miller ( arrived 7 : 15 ) ABSENT : Councilperson Schwartz ( excused ) Others Present : H ighway Superintendent - Bill Hall Town Clerk - Carol Sczepanski W ater Commissioner - Roy Casterline Supervisor Oltz called the meeting to order at 7 : 05 P . M . Public Hearing Date for Preliminary Budget for Fiscal Year 1994 S upervisor Oltz reported that the Town Board must set a date for a public hearing on the Preliminary Budget for Fiscal Year 1994 . RESOLUTION NO . 44 DATE SET FOR PUBLIC HEARING - PRELIMINARY BUDGET - APPROVAL B y Councilperson Marisa : Seconded by Councilperson Hile WHEREAS , the Town of Danby Preliminary Budget for Fiscal Year 1994 h as been completed and filed in the Office of the Town Clerk , 1830 D anby Road , Ithaca , New York where it is available for inspection by the public during regular office hours , now be it RESOLVED , that the Town of Danby Town Board hold a public hearing on , Thursday , November 4 , 1993 , 7 : 30 P . M . , 1830 Danby Road , Ithaca , N ew York to hear comments from the public for the Fiscal Year 1994 P reliminary Budget . A roll call vote on the resolution resulted as follows : H ile Aye Marisa Aye Miller Aye O ltz Aye Absent : Councilperson Schwartz Carried Unanimously E asement for NYSEG : Supervisor Oltz reported that NYSEG has requested an Easement Agreement to set a pole for electric service to the new West Danby Fire Station and moved the following resolution : RESOLUTION NO 45 EASEMENT FOR NEW YORK STATE ELECTRIC AND GAS - APPROVED B y Supervisor Oltz : Seconded by Councilperson Hile WHEREAS , New York Electric and Gas has requested an easement to place a stub pole with anchor for a new line to the New West Danby Fire Station , and WHEREAS , the pole is to be staked in a field located on the West D anby Water District property and requires that the Town of Danby grant an easement to set a pole , now be it RESOLVED , that the Town of Danby Town Board authorize the Town S upervisor to sign an easement granting New York State Electric and G as ( NYSEG ) permission to set a stub pole on the West Danby Water D istrict property to provide electric service to the New West Danby Fire Station . 248 2 Town Board Meeting October 20 , 1993 A roll call vote on the resolution resulted as follows : Hile Aye Marisa Aye Miller Aye Oltz Aye . ; . Absent : . Councilperson Schwartz Carried Unanimously Budget Work Sessions The budget work session scheduled for Wednesday , October 27 , 1993 h as been changed to Monday , October 25 , 1993 at 7 : 00 P . M . Bonding for John Deere Loader Supervisor Oltz reported that she is in the process of obtaining bonding for the John Deere Loader . A Bond Resolution will be submitted for consideration at the November 1993 Meeting . BUDGET WORK SESSION : Water District Budget : The Town Board reviewed the West Danby Water District Tentative B udget and accepted as submitted . H IGHWAY BUDGET : The following items in the Tentative Budget were amended as follows : Account Account Tentative Amended Number Budget Budget General Repairs P ersonal Services DA5110 . 100 $ 64 , 027 $ 62 , 807 Contract . Exp . DA5110 . 400 89 , 213 65 , 000 Account Account Tentative Amended Number Budget Budget General Repairs Bridges : P ersonal Service DA5120 . 100 $ 3 , 221 $ 3 , 160 Machinery : P ersonal Services DA5130 . 100 $ 12 , 600 $ 12 , 000 Contract . Exp . DA5130 . 400 48 , 000 53 , 000 Miscellaneous ( Brush & Weeds ) P ersonal Service DA5140 . 100 $ 3 , 516 $ 3 , 450 Contractual Exp . DA5140 . 400 4 , 000 3 , 000 S now Removal ( Town Hwys ) P ersonal Serv . DA5142 . 100 $ 80 , 932 $ 79 , 390 Contractual Exp . DA5142 . 400 23 , 566 33 , 791 DEBT SERVICE and INTEREST : The Bonding figures will be added for the John Deere Loader . { GENERAL FUND BUDGET : General Government : Town Board P . S . A1010 . 100 $ 6 , 464 $ 6 , 300 Court Clerk P . S . A1110 . 100 2 , 835 2 , 781 Town Justice P . S . A1110 . 110 7 , 876 7 , 725 Court Equip . A1110 . 200 1 , 000 500 Town Superv . P . S . A1220 . 100 9 , 802 9 , 615 Bookkeeper P . S . A1220 . 110 7 , 580 7 , 000 Town Superv . Equip . A1220 . 200 3 , 000 1 , 600 Town Clerk P . S . A1410 . 100 11 , 781 11 , 557 Town Clerk Deputy P . S . A1410 . 110 2 , 100 2 , 060 249 3 Town Board Meeting October 20 , 1993 Elections P . S . A1450 . 400 12 , 000 3 , 000 Town Hall P . S . A1620 . 100 2 , 625 2 , 575 Town Hall Eq . A1620 . 200 100 350 Town Hall C . E . A1620 . 400 15 , 300 11 , 000 (Let (Ile Carol W . Sczepanskia444A -J wn Clerk min10 - 20 . 93 64 TOWN OF DANBY PLANNING BOARD MINUTES PUBLIC HEARING 7 : 15 P . M . October 20 1993 H ill - Subdivision P RESENT : Chairperson Nancy Weitzel P lanning Board Members : Arch Dotson , Joel Gagnon , Eloise Greene , Ken Horst , Don Schaaf ABSENT : W illiam Farrell ( Excused ) O thers Present : Code Enforcement Officer : Susan Beeners Members of the Public : Raymond Mayo , Mary Lou Hardesty , Clifford M . Hill , Dennis Pollack , Ric Dietrich , Neal Sherwood , Patricia A . Darsie The public hearing was called to order at 7 : 18 P . M . by Chairperson W eitzel and read the following Notice of Publication : TOWN OF DANBY PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN , that a Public Hearing will be held by t he Planning Board of the Town of Danby on Wednesday , October 20 , 1993 at 7 : 15 P . M . , 1830 Danby Road , Ithaca , New York . P urpose of hearing is to consider approval of the proposed subdivision of two lots , each 1 . 37 + / - acres in size , from Town of Danby Tax Parcel No . 20 . - 1 - 29 . 2 , 58 . 44 acres total , located on South Danby Road south of Travor Road . Clifford and Loxie Hill , owners , Clifford Hill , Applicant . At such time and place all persons interested in the subject matter thereof will be heard concerning the same . A regular meeting of the Planning Board will follow the public h earing . By order of the Planning Board Chair Carol W . Sczepanski , Town Clerk D ated : October 13 , 1993 P ublished : October 15 , 1993 Affidavit of Neighborhood Notification was submitted for the ✓ ecord . Clifford Hill addressed the Planning Board and reported that this w as a request for approval by the Planning Board to subdivide two ( 2 ) building lots from his property . His plan is to place manufactured homes that are similar to the ones Mr . Hovanec placed n ear Steam Mill Road on the subdivided lots . J oel Gagnon asked Mr . Hill if he had obtained Health Department approval for septic and sewage . Mr . Hill said that this was a preliminary request for subdivision and he has not asked the Health Department for approval at this t ime . The proposed lots are large enough to allow for problems should they occur . The soils in this area are gravel , ' on a natural g rade , and there has never been a problem with water or sewage . D iscussion followed regarding access to the back property . Clifford Hill said that he plans no further development of his property . / C' 2 Planning Board Minutes Public Hearing - Hill October 20 , 1993 No members of the public appeared . Motion to Close Public Hearing : A motion was made by Joel Gagnon and seconded by Ken Horst to close the public hearing at 7 : 30 P . M . . Carried Unanimously Respectfully sub itted , . eatAeW � Secretary Carol W . Sczepanski , Y phm10 - 20 . 01 1 1 . . , III 1c; TOWN OF DANBY PLANNING BOARD MINUTES PUBLIC HEARING- 02 7 : 30 P . M . October 20 , 1993 PRESENT : Chairperson Nancy Weitzel Planning Board Members : Arch Dotson , Joel Gagnon , Eloise Greene , Ken Horst , Don Schaaf ABSENT : William Farrell ( Excused ) Others Present : Code Enforcement Officer - Susan Beeners Members of the Public : Raymond Mayo , Mary Lou , Hardesty , Clifford Hill , Dennis Pollack , Elisabeth Lindsay , Ric Dietrich , Neal Sherwood , Patricia A . Darsie The public hearing was called to order by Chairperson Weitzel at 7 : 30 p . m . and the following Notice of Publication read : TOWN OF DANBY PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that a Public Hearing will be held by the Planning Board of the Town of Danby on Wednesday , October 20 , 1993 at 7 : 30 P . M . , 1830 Danby Road , Ithaca , New York . Purpose of hearing is to consider approval of the proposed subdivision of a one ( 1 ) acre lot from Town of Danby Tax Parcel No . 10 . - 1 - 41 . 12 , 18 . 32 acres total , located at 43 Hornbrook Road . Dennis and June Pollack , Owners , Dennis Pollack , Applicant . At such time and place all persons interested in the subject matter thereof will be heard concerning the same . A regular meeting of the Planning Board will follow the public hearing . By order of the Planning Board Chair Carol W . Sczepanski , Town Clerk Dated : October 13 , 1993 Published : October 15 , 1993 Affidavit of Neighborhood Notification was submitted for the record . Pat Darsie - 9 Hornbrook Road - asked what was the property to be used for and how it would affect drainage . She reported that there is a problem with drainage from other properties near her home . Elizabeth Lindsay - 71 Middaugh Road - responded that a single family residence is proposed to be built there and that the drainage will flow away from her property . Motion to Close Public Hearing : A motion was made by Joel Gagnon and seconded by Eloise Greene to close the public hearing at 7 : 35 P . M . Carried Unanimously R&1ax ctfully ., ubmitted asG Carol W . Scze anski , Secretary phm10 - 20 . 02 167 TOWN OF DANBY PLANNING BOARD MINUTES Regular Meeting 7 : 30 P . M . October 20 , 1993 PRESENT : Chairperson Nancy Weitzel P lanning Board Members : Arch Dotson , Joel Gagnon , Eloise Greene , Ken Horst , Don Schaaf ABSENT : P illiam Farrell ( Excused ) Others Present : Code Enforcement Officer : Susan Beeners Members of the Public : Raymond Mayo , Mary Lou Hardesty , Clifford M . Hill , Dennis Pollack , Ric Dietrich , Neal Sherwood , Patricia A . Darsie The Planning Board Meeting was called to order at 7 : 36 P . M . by Chairperson Weitzel . Approval of August 18 , 1993 Planning Board Minutes Corrections to August 18 , 1993 Planning Board Minutes : ( brackets ) mean delete underlines mean new language . P age 4 ) Under General Site Plan Review - second paragraph - - ( proposal ) proposed mobile home park expansion . Add The subdivision would create five ( 5 ) lots . Third paragraph ( road ) common drive to the subdivision . II Page 6 ) Under Community Council Request - - delete ( and that it ) add which . P age 7 ) ( EIF ) EAF A motion was made by Joel Gagnon and seconded by Arch Dotson to approve the August 18 , 1993 Planning Board Minutes as corrected . Carried Unanimously Approval of August 30 , 1993 Planning Board Public Hearing Minutes A motion was made by Joel Gagnon and seconded by Ken Horst to approve the August 30 , 1993 Public Hearing Minutes as published . Carried Unanimously Approval of August 30 , 1993 Planning Board Special Meeting Minutes Corrections to August 30 , 1993 Minutes P age 1 ) Under Community Council Special Permit - second paragraph ( the Planning Board going to have ) would be a ; and under Susan Beeners replace the word view with consider II A motion was made by Joel Gagnon and seconded by Arch Dotson to approve the Planning Board Special Meeting Minutes as corrected . Carried Unanimously Approval of September 15 , 1993 Planning Board Minutes Corrections to September 15 , 1993 Planning Board Minutes 1 ) under lg - delete ( allowed ) replace with proposed A motion was made by Ken Horst and seconded by Arch Dotson to approve the Planning Board Minutes of September 15 , 1993 Planning Board Minutes as corrected . Carried Unanimously 168 2 Planning Board Minutes October 20 , 1993 Approval of September 22 , 1993 Public Hearing Corrections to Public Hearing Minutes - September 22 , 1993 1 ) Under Ted Merritt - after homes to have space to A motion was made by Arch Dotson and seconded by Ken Horst to approve the Public Hearing Minutes as corrected . Carried Unanimously Tompkins County Planning Board Representative Chairperson Weitzel reported that the Planning Board must make a recommendation to the Town Board for a representative to serve on the Tompkins County Planning Board . Motion for Tompkins County Planning Board Representative A motion was made by Arch Dotson and seconded by Eloise Greene that the Planning Board recommends the appointment of Don Schaaf to the Tompkins County Planning Board as the Town of Danby representative . Carried Unanimously P ROPOSED HILL SUBDIVISION RESOLUTION NO . 22 OF 1993 APPROVAL SEQR DETERMINATION - HILL SUBDIVISION B y Joel Gagnon : Seconded by Arch Dotson WHEREAS , this action is the consideration of approval of the proposed subdivision of two lots , each 1 . 37 + / - acres in size , from Town of Danby Tax Parcel No . 20 . - 1 - 29 . 2 , 58 . 44 acres total , located on South Danby Road south of Travor Rd . Clifford and Loxie Hill , Owners , Clifford Hill , Applicant , and WHEREAS , this is an Unlisted action for which the Planning Board is acting as Lead Agency in environmental review and for which no coordinated review is required , and WHEREAS , the Planning Board , at and following Public Hearing on O ctober 20 , 1993 , has reviewed the Environmental Assessment Form and d raft environmental review prepared by the Code Enforcement O fficer , now be it RESOLVED , that the Town of Danby Planning Board , acting as Lead Agency in environmental review of this Unlisted action , makes a negative determination of environmental significance for this action . A roll call vote on the resolution resulted as follows : D otson Aye G agnon Aye G reene Aye H orst Aye S chaaf Aye Weitzel Aye Carried Unanimously RESOLUTION NO . 23 OF 1993 APPROVAL HILL SUBDIVISION B y Ken Horst : Seconded by Arch Dotson WHEREAS , this action is the consideration of approval of the proposed Subdivision of two lots , each 1 . 37 + / - acres in size , from Town of Danby Tax Parcel No . 20 . - 1 - 29 . 2 , 58 . 44 acres in size , located on South Danby Road , south of Travor Road . Clifford and L oxie Hill , Owners , Clifford Hill , Applicant , and WHEREAS , this is an Unlisted action for which the Planning Board on October 20 , 1993 , acting as Lead Agency in environmental review , h as made a negative determination of environmental significance , 3 Planning Board Minutes October 20 , 1993 and WHEREAS , the Planning Board , at and following Public Hearing on October 20 , 1993 , has reviewed a map showing the proposed two ( 2 ) lot subdivision dated 8 / 27 / 93 , now be it RESOLVED , that the Town of Danby Planning Board grants Preliminary and final Subdivision approval to the proposed subdivision as presented , subject to the submission of a final survey map for such lots , suitable for filing , for approval by the Planning Board Chairperson . A roll call vote on the resolution resulted as follows : Dotson Aye G agnon Aye G reene Aye H orst Aye Schaaf Aye W eitzel Aye Carried Unanimously PROPOSED POLLACK SUBDIVISION RESOLUTION NO . 24 OF 1993 - APPROVAL - SEQR DETERMINATION B y Joel Gagnon : Seconded by Arch Dotson WHEREAS , this action is the consideration of approval of the proposed Subdivision of a one ( 1 ) acre lot from Town of Danby Tax P arcel No . 10 . - 1 - 12 , 18 . 32 acres total , located at 43 Hornbrook Road . Dennis and June Pollack , Owners , Dennis Pollack , Applicant . WHEREAS , this is an Unlisted action for which the Planning Board is acting as Lead Agency in environmental review and for which no coordinated review is required , and WHEREAS , the Planning Board , at and following Public Hearing on O ctober 20 , 1993 , has reviewed the Environmental Assessment form and draft environmental review prepared by the Code Enforcement O fficer , now be it RESOLVED , that the Town of Danby Planning Board , acting as Lead Agency in environmental review of this Unlisted action , makes a negative determination of negative determination of environmental significance for this action . A roll call vote on the resolution resulted as follows : D otson Aye G agnon Aye G reene Aye H orst Aye Schaaf Aye W eitzel Aye Carried Unanimously RESOLUTION NO 25 . OF 1993 APPROVAL - POLLACK SUBDIVISION B y Ken Horst : Seconded by Joel Gagnon WHEREAS , this action is the consideration of approval of the proposed subdivision of a one ( 1 ) acre lot from Town of Danby Tax P arcel No . 10 . - 1 - 41 . 12 , 18 . 32 acres total , located at 43 Hornbrook Road . Dennis and June Pollack , Owners , Dennis Pollack , Applicant , and WHEREAS , this is an Unlisted action for which the Planning Board on October 20 , 1993 , acting as Lead Agency in environmental review has made a negative determination of environmental significance , and WHEREAS , the Planning Board , at and following Public Hearing on 170 4 Planning Board Minutes October 20 , 1993 O ctober 20 , 1993 , has reviewed a map entitled " SKETCH PLAN SHOWING P ROPOSED ONE ( 1 ) ACRE LOT " dated 10 / 8 / 93 , now be it RESOLVED , that the Town of Danby Planning Board grants Preliminary and Final Subdivision approval to the proposed subdivision as presented , subject to the submission of a final survey map for such lot , suitable for filing , for approval by the Planning Board Chairperson . A roll call vote on the resolution resulted as follows : D otson Aye G agnon Aye G reene Aye H orst Aye S chaaf Aye W eitzel Aye Carried Unanimously H ILLVIEW TERRACE SUBDIVISION & MOBILE HOME PARK EXPANSION - PROPOSAL Review of the Part 2 - Project Impacts and Their Magnitude K en Horst asked Susan Beeners to give a brief review of the project for the new members of the Planning Board . A copy of the petition addressed to the Danby Planning Board and the Danby Town Board - dated April 2 , 1992 - submitted to the Town Board on April 13 , 1992 and to the Planning Board on April 15 , 1992 was presented to the Planning Board by Susan Beeners . E loise Green asked if the names on the petition were materially different than the persons who attended the Public Information Hearing . D on Schaaf said that in regard to her comment as to whether or not the persons were the same doesn ' t elude to the fact that there were as many or more people who were speaking in support of the proposal at the public information meeting . Joel asked if he could see a copy of the geologists report . Review of EAF - Part II S ections - 1 , 2 , 3 , and 4 - no change . S ection - 5 - discussion - Impact on Water S ection 6 - no change S ection 7 - no change S ection 8 - no change S ection 9 - no change S ection - 10 - Impact on Agricultural Land Resources - Yes Column 1 - item C S ection - 11 - Impact on Aesthetic Resources under item D Section - 12 - no change Section - 13 - no change S ection - 14 - no change Section - 15 - no change Section - 16 - no change S ection - 17 - no change S ection - 17 - no change D iscussion - Section 5 J oel said he is concerned that further development may affect the neighbors water supply . E loise asked Joel if he knew the condition of the neighboring wells and do they need new ones anyway . 171 5 Planning Board Minutes October 20 , 1993 D on referred to the public meeting when people reported problems w ith their wells over a long period of time but they have not done anything to correct the problem . Susan referred the Planning Board to the back portion of the EAF P art I and the letter dated April 1 , 1992 from John Anderson of Tompkins County Health Department to Supervisor Oltz regarding the w ater supply for the park and the proposed expansion . She said t hat draw down tests , if appropriate , would be conducted prior to any building permit issuance . Ken said that we have to base any judgement that we make on what the experts say . The geologists and the health department , in his o pinion have to be the experts . Chairperson Weitzel requested that further discussion of 5 - E be d eferred . S ection - 18 - Impact on Growth and Character of Community or N eighborhoods . Joel said that he questions as to why there is a lot of opposition by the neighbors . He understands that water is a part of it but there is concern of the effect on property . Joel referred to problems in other mobile home parks in the county with poor maintenance , crime , services , etc . and said that the tenants cause problems to surrounding neighborhoods . What happens to the maintenance and conditions in the park if the owners should sell it . He thinks that there should be rules and regulations to be e nforced for public safety . Arch asked if it was reasonable under public health safety to ✓ equest a tenants agreement for the mobile home park that address maintenance and other reasonable issues . Mary Lou said that all mobile home parks must file rules and ✓ egulations for certification with Community Housing and Renewal to be certified . She suggested that Joel obtain a copy of the Mobile H ome Tenants Handbook before making suggestions for additional ✓ ules . K en Horst said that this design for the park is a great improvement o ver the last plan the Planning Board reviewed for this proposal . D on Schaaf said that we seem to be locked in to the focus of n egative aspects of what could happen without giving any consideration to the positive aspects . J oel proposed that in 18 - C there is a definite impact as it is in a low density zone . D iscussion - Section 5 - E Ken Horst said that he still feels very strongly that Section 5 - E is one that we have experts opinions on . Ric Dietrich - said that the neighbors may want to get their own e xpert opinion . J oel said that getting another opinion might make the neighbors more comfortable but there are people surrounding this development who have marginal water . Chairperson Weitzel asked Joel who were the neighbors who had marginal water supply that he is concerned about . Joel did not respond but Ric Dietrich said that he did not know of anyone who doesn ' t . 117 2 6 Planning Board Minutes October 20 , 1993 Mary Lou Hardesty asked that the neighbors get statistics on all of t hese wells . P roposal to Change Section 5 - E J oel Gagnon proposed that Section 5 - E be amended from No . 1 - No impact on water to No . 2 Potential Large Impact . A vote on the proposal resulted as follows : O ne ( 1 ) Ayes - Gagnon Five ( 5 ) Nays ( Greene , Horst ; Schaaf , Weitzel ) O ne ( 1 ) Abstention ( Dotson ) Arch asked the Planning Board to request information from the n eighbors regarding the history of their water problems and supply . The Planning Board Chair requested that documentation and history o f the neighborhood wells be submitted to the Planning Board by the n eighbors who have reported problems . That information should include when the well was drilled , how deep is it , what the yield was when it was drilled and what is the yield not . The information must be received within the next four ( 4 ) to six ( 6 ) weeks and preferably by the November 17 , 1993 Planning Board Meeting . K en Horst stated that this is a major development the Planning B oard has been working on for over two ( 2 ) years . Ric Dietrich said that the people have not had access to this information before . He would be upset if the Town went speedily t hrough it . D on Schaaf responded to Mr . Dietrich that people who currently live in this mobile home park , are residents of this community and have h ad an option to come to all of these public hearings and express an opinion . He would certainly think , that if there were some who h ad adverse comments that they would have taken that same o pportunity to come to the public hearings and express an opinion . O ut of order discussion followed with a member of the public e xpressing how he thinks the mobile home park should be operated w ith specific rules for tenants . Mary Lou asked what information is needed before a formal public hearing can be scheduled . She said she is not willing for this to continue for two ( 2 ) more years . She said there was a lot of support for this project at the public information meeting . Motion to Hold Special Meeting : A motion was made by Ken Horst seconded by Arch Dotson to hold a brief meeting on Thursday , October 28 , 1993 from 7 : 00 - 7 : 30 P . M . to decide what the next step is with the Hardesty Proposal . ADJOURNMENT : On a motion the meeting adjourned at 10 : 40 P . M . Ress ectfully ubmitted , L,Q�O'C w • Carol W . Sczepahski Recording Secretary