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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1995-08-08TOWN BOARD MEETING PUBLIC HEARING - UNSAFE STRUCTURE • AUGUST 8, 1995 Supv Schug - called the meeting to order at 7:30PM and read the notice that was published in the newspaper concerning the unsafe structure at 80 Cortland Road. (copy in minute book) QUESTIONS AND /OR COMMENTS Mark Bell - the fire department has been contacted to see if it can be burned. Mr. MacKnee is waiting for asbestos testing to come back and is supposed to be checking with DEC. j Atty Perkins - wanted to know if MacKnee received a permit. Z.O. Slater - yes, he received a permit which is limited to 60 days and was issued on July 21st. As of today there has been no activity. Closed public hearing - 7:55PM TOWN BOARD MEETING AUGUST 8, 1995 Supv Schug called the meeting to order at 7:30PM Members and guests participated a moment of silent meditation followed by the Pledge of Allegiance. Roll call was by Town Clerk Lloyd Present: Supv Schug, Clm Baker, Clm T. Hatfield, Clm C. Hatfield, Clm Roberts, Atty Perkins and Z.O. Slater APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES Motion was made by Clm Roberts and 2nd by Clm C. Hatfield that the minutes of Town Board meeting 5 -9 -95 and Site Plan Review 5 -9 -95 be approved. Carried CITIZEN PRIVILEGE OF THE FLOOR Karl Heck - reported on the Small Cities grant. They have sent letters to all of the clients who wanted an application. They should be ready for their first oversight meeting in a couple of weeks to start reviewing cases. Clm Roberts - wanted to know how many applications there were and how many we will be able to help. Karl Heck - there were 85 applications and we will be able to help • 21 or 22. There was a good response from the Town of Dryden. Clm Roberts - wanted to know if all of the applicants would be receiving a letter whether or not their application has been approved. TB8 -8 -95 Page 2 • Karl Heck - people who have been approved by the oversight committee and the board they begin to take action. They do not formally reject anybody unless the oversight committee rejects them for some reason. They will be notified'as to their status. Clm Roberts - wanted to know if they needed to reapply if it was on the next grant. Karl Heck - no, because they would already have their application on file. The Town Board discussed night security for town court. Judge Clauson - they have been running into some problems with the people who visit my court room on a nightly basis. I need help, that is the bottom line. For my protection, for Jean's protection and the people of the Town of Dryden. I need someone with those duties to have some sort of policing of our hallways. There is no one here but Jean and myself so we don't know what is going on beyond the board room. The town clerk's office is wide open to the public and there is nothing locked up. I have found people on the phones and in the storage room. If there was someone here I think we would have a better chance of surviving an attack against me or Jean or anyone else. Clm Roberts - wanted to know how many people attended his court. Judge Clauson - it averages about 35 to 45. There have been times when people have to be in the hallway. The only time there is a policeman here is when someone is being transported from the jail. Most of the time there is a policeman or a jailer here, but their responsibility is that defendant in my court room. I am not sure what they are going to do if I have a problem. The whole judicial town court system has changed a lot since I have started being a Judge. The people are different and the attitudes are different. You read the papers and know what goes on in the world and I don't think Dryden is immune to that. Clm Roberts - according to your first letter it was $15.00 per hour and now it is $20.00 per hour. Judge Clauson - the policemen who do our jury trials came to us and said we need more money to do the jury trials because they have other police type jobs and are getting paid that amount. I can't stay competitive to keep a policeman here for 2 days for a jury trial and pay him $15.00 per hour. Since I have been here it has never been increased. The policemen who do our jury trials have come to us and asked for an increase. You don't have to give it to them, but I need a sworn officer for a jury trial. If they say I am not going to do it for less than $20.00 then I don't have a choice. is y i I • TB8 -8 -95 Page 3 Clm Roberts - so you are looking for a maximum of 3 hours. Supv Schug - Jean will keep track of the hours and only put down the hours that they worked on each court night. This will be done by a voucher on a monthly basis. RESOLUTION #190 APPROVE NIGHT SECURITY FOR COURT Clm Roberts offered the following resolution and asked for its adoption: RESOLVED, that this Town Board approve a security officer for Monday night court at the rate of $20.00 per hour only for hours needed and put through on a monthly voucher. 2nd Clm Baker Roll call vote - all voting Yes DISCUSSION - RE AMBULANCE SERVICE Supv Schug - this is a public informational meeting concerning ambulance service in the town. The ambulance service has had the need to add full time paid volunteers during the daytime. There would be options as to add the amount to the tax bill or charge for the service. Under state law you can charge for the services. Walter Groman - the fire department did have an informational meeting during the past year to be educated on the communities that have started a service fee for the ambulance. They have learned to educate the public with this service charge will take about 1 to 2 years. Once this was in place they were successful in funding a portion of their operations after that. Clint Cotterill - we have learned that the communities that have established this program paid is only about 60 percent of the bills have been collected. Our company does not have the ability or manpower to bill so it is the case of hiring someone else or it and don't have any way to letting the town do it whatever way is possible. Supv Schug - the reason for doing this is you want to put paid people on board. The paid people will be working for the town. Clint Cotterill - I agree with you as long as we are talking about the town getting some paid help there. Supv Schug - the fire company came to me and asked if we couldn't work it out to get paid help for the ambulance service. The town and Neptune certainly will not badger somebody for a $200.00 ride.,. to the hospital. If they can't afford it and don't have any way to pay for it they are going to get there. 1d.5 i TB8 -8 -95 Page 4 • Supv Schug - Atty Perkins has checked into this and there is not too much to be able to bill. When you think about it should the people using the service pay for it. A lot of times when there is an ambulance call for someone who lives in town they send in a donation. It may not be enough to cover the cost of the run but they appreciate what you did. The ambulance company has told me they need a paramedic on perhaps 75 percent of the runs and have to hire a highly qualified person to do the job. I have spoken to Neptune fire company and what is that going to do to volunteers. The response I received was no, they all want to make sure they perform and have as good an ambulance service as possible and this is what the town board wants. But, should the people who use it pay for it or, do we talk about doing away with our ambulance service and farming it out to TLC or Bangs. I would like to see the fire company keep the ambulance service we have now. I Mark Bell - the only problem is if the ambulance service disbands the other ambulance services would run out of their home base, whether it be Ithaca or Cortland. They will not be located in Dryden. They are also having problems with getting help since the state is doing so much mandating. Where Dryden has been making up j with the fly cars and getting the paramedic help from another agency. Medicare is no longer going to retain that part. Henry Slater - wanted to know if there had been an analysis done to see if this additional cost was spread over the people of the Town of Dryden to see how much we are talking about. Supv Schug - yes, on the present basis a house assessed at 51001000.00, $28.00 per hundred thousand. If we go to the first year proposal will go from $28.00 to 842.00 per hundred thousand. If it goes where we have to have more paid people it goes up to 852.00 per hundred thousand. Henry Slater - as a citizen I feel the ambulance service is something we need and there are some people who have a problem paying for that. help everyone have As a citizen I that service am willing to help because I think pay that fee to it is the most valuable service that comes with a community. I have no problem paying that as a citizen. Supv Schug - you are paying right now in your taxes for people who have insurance, accident. If we people who do take up are from out of town who have the billing there is still going an to be x.amount of funding that will have to come from taxes to keep the ambulance, crew, pay and have the and operations insurance in tact. Those who could coverage would be paying. afford Fred Gentz - the average cost for what an ambulance call from insurance is $300.00 to $400.00. TB8 -8 -95 Page 5 Bill Ackroyd - I feel I am subsidizing the insurance company out • of my tax dollar. Insured or not I still want someone to be there. Lee Shurtleff - Groton raised the same questions as the ones here tonight. With regard to commercial services and what Lansing has done. What has happened since then, is not feasible in a small community based on the number of call volume to have a commercial service in there. They were figuring on 200 calls a year that would happen during the day time hours. No way could they put an ambulance in the community with the level of personnel that you need paramedics, advanced EMT or driver, insurance cost and everything else. What has happened in Lansing is they are waiting for an ambulance to come out from Ithaca. The only way in a critical situation where that is working is to have a functioning rescue squad. You have the same situation where people aren't there. Now you are getting top level paramedics coming from the city. You can guarantee they are going to be there on every call, but you can't guarantee that they are going to be there in less than 20 or 25 minutes. By the time they get there it doesn't matter if you have a doctor from ER on board there is nothing they can do in critical instances. That is why Groton attempted to answer the problem locally by looking for a solution. The Village of Groton happened to have a half time position that became available. A clerk left and we went in and proposed that we share the job with the village. We pick up half of the full time salary and the village would continue to pick up the other half and work the hours flexible. This has turned out to be a very good situation. They did not attempt to look into billing because they were able to cover the cost since they were able to absorb them through our department contracts and donations. Quite the opposite has happened on the volunteer situation where you think some people might be scared off or will not respond any more because there are paid personnel there. In fact they have more people coming around. Some of our basic EMT's are responding more during the day time because they know they have the higher level backup. They have also been successful in getting some daytime program started. They have an application in the State Health Dept. for a daytime EMT class. It has been very successful and I think to go from one extreme to the other really wouldn't benefit a rural area. To go all volunteer the people are just not there during the daytime. On the other side to go commercial service it was just not feasible to think they could give us the same level of coverage that we are providing. Brad Perkins - I have been in a situation where I have needed an ambulance and glad to have help. As far as paying for it if the insurance company will pay for it great and if the people are willing to pay fee will we should get that too. We shouldn't make the ones that are paying the insurance premium and paying the taxes also pay the bill. I think our Dryden people should have a hat taken off to them for the effort they have made over the last 19 years to keep this going. I TB8 -8 -95 Page 6 • Brad Perkins - I know the citizens would be very disappointed to wait 10 to 50 minutes for an ambulance to arrive from another community while you stand around hopelessly wondering why did we make a foolish decision to discontinue service. In my mind there is no question, lets get some paid help. First priority lets get some help and second priority lets see if we can get some money to pay that help out of the people and out of the sources where they have already paid for insurance to protect them. John Courtney - my wife and I have used the ambulance service quite a lot. The statement tonight is if I don't get a bill I am not going to pay for it. I have made a couple of small donations and I am sure we would be happy to make sure they got paid. Michael Lane - I know in some of the other fire departments when you start mixing volunteers and paid people it generates into difficulty between those two groups. We have seen it in the Cortland and Ithaca Fire Department. I wonder if the fire department has considered those issues and how they might deal with them. Supv Schug - that was the first question I had. How was a volunteer going to feel when he was working right along with someone who is getting paid. The fire department meeting I was at the response was that they had no problem with it and they felt bad they couldn't supply qualified people to run the ambulance • during the day. Dana Abbey - nothing hurts more to sit at our desk and hear the monitor go off 3 or 4 times in the daytime knowing there is a driver sitting in the ambulance and we don't have an EMT to move it. You can't move the ambulance until an EMT is on board. Doug Cotterill - I think you get drivers that avoid going to the station during the day that don't want to sit there for 10 minutes and have the dispatcher say what do you want me to do. Fred Gentz - as far as a paid person working with a volunteer. I would rather work with someone that I know regardless as to whether they are paid or not. The problem we have now is putting up with the grief from the paid paramedics that we don't know and may never see again from out of the district that come to help us out. That is why a lot of basic EMT's will not respond because all they get is grief. Example TLC. Mark Bell - we already have been doing this for a year and a half. There have been numerous occasions where our ambulance will respond with just a driver and nobody thinks of paid personnel when we meet up with Bangs or TLC. We are already mixing paid personnel with a volunteer. We are doing it, we have been doing it and we don't have a problem. We haven't had a lot of problems with it per say. In Groton they have more people showing up and responding to the calls because they know there is someone there to turn to if they have a question. C TB8 -8 -95 Page 7 Mark Bell - I am one of them. I am an EMT, but I don't do enough calls solo to feel comfortable to take all of the calls that come in. If I knew I had a person to do a run with it would make me feel much more comfortable and I may go down and take the call because I know someone will be there to work with me. We have talked with our normal daytime men and there is not one of them that offered any opposition about paid personnel. In fact they were relieved because now they know when they arrive at the station there will be someone there instead of waiting for someone to show up. Bill Ackroyd - we want to provide the service to the community, but we can't provide the level that is required and demanded by the state. I don't think anybody is going to have a problem working with paid people. Brad Perkins - the City of Cortland and City of Ithaca Fire Dept. is different than volunteer fire departments that is going to take out a paid employee. Instead of having everyone being paid we are going to have one or two. We don't have a paid chief and we don't have a union. We don't have a lot of other things that impact how these people feel about their job, their supervisor and everything else. In some ways as a union fire fighter I can understand how they might have a question about volunteers. They have made a profession out of fire fighting and now someone makes an advocation about it comes in and stands beside them. It is hard to measure that with the same stick. I am not saying they are either more or less qualified, but that is fuel for concern people have. Supv Schug - that is the response I received from the fire meeting. They would rather have the paid person next to them then not have any. It would not bother their volunteers at all. Sue Mandrino - I left work at Cornell and started work in Groton as a paid paramedic and also work in the village clerk's office. I do payroll, other clerical jobs and answer ambulance calls. I have had more basic EMT's to make runs with me. We have had some classes where I have taught some intermediates. I can teach them because I am a preceptor for the classes. I am allowed to teach them IV's and things they need to do. They are able to perform their runs and make their calls. They now come in and do a lot of that when they are home on a day off from Cornell or where ever they happen to work. They are very glad to do that. Also if a call comes in and I am not needed I do go back to the village hall and they take the call. They have become much more confident in what they are doing. The elderly people in the community are much happier because I have had nothing but compliments about our being there and being able to take the calls. They feel safer and more comfortable. It is a good experience. We all work well together and I don't have any problems at all and our donations have increased. All in all it has been good for the Village of Groton. You are welcome to come out and see how it works. I I TBB -8 -95 Page 8 • Michael Lane - wondered if it was a town employee, how would it affect your insurance. Supv Schug - they would be a town employee just like they are working for the town. The cost of the insurance would go up. It would be figured in the cost of the operation. Michael Lane - wanted to know if it would be a substantial increase. Supv Schug - If you are talking 2.5 people covering 7 days a week it would be about $60,000.000 to $70,000.00 increase on the existing ambulance service a year. Michael Lane - was talking about the increase on insurance. Supv Schug - no more than the volunteers that are on it. The person would be a town employee, but would have to leave whenever they had a call. The town has several highway employees who are volunteers and they leave work if there is a call. Lee Shurtleff - Sue Mandrino is covered through workers comp through the Village of Groton. She is not on volunteer fire department law. She falls back under the village rules. It did raise the insurance slightly but did not have any affect on the liability insurance. • CITIZEN PRIVILEGE OF THE FLOOR Ralph Varn - I am trying to set up the structure dedication for the board meeting in Sept. since I understand there will be a public hearing. Supv Schug - there is no need for a public hearing. Either the roads to be done. are built right or the town will not accept them. Ralph Varn - I am trying to accomplish as much work as I can from now until the end of the month so Dave Putnam and Larry Fabroni put a number on what is remaining to be done. I need to move my one customer I have built a house for there. I need the road dedication and to file the map and therefore get a C.O., so it all hinges around that. Supv Schug - questioned sidewalks that would be there. Ralph Varn - this would be just at the front entrance and is about 400 to 500 feet long. The reason is to widen the 50 foot r -o -w strip that is there. Is /3U I 3/ TB8 -8 -95 Page 9 Supv Schug - Ted Marchell requested to speak under citizen privilege of the floor. This is the information I received from Henry Slater. Ted Marchell - I will take that opportunity then. I briefed Jim on a situation where I am trying to complete my project at 4 Hall Woods Road. I entered into what I call an agreement with Don Gilbert the week before the 4th of July. He was going to complete some ditch work on my site so that I could proceed with my landscaping. I spoke to him on a Monday, got material there on a Tuesday and he agreed to be there on a Wednesday and Thursday. That is where it sets right now. It is 5 weeks today since the material has shown up. As far as Don has gotten is to remove the guard rail that is necessary to complete the job. He has not shown up and I have sent notes, made phone calls and I have talked to Jim. I just want the job done. I don't really know who to turn to. Supv Schug - you could refer to me as you did in the letter. Ted Marchell - I could, but I won't. I am in a situation where I don't know where to turn to try to get this job completed. Supv Schug - to bring the town board up to date after you had called, even though you said you were still mad and going to stay that way, I did talk to Don. I asked him what happened and to get his side of the story. The work that is to be done is in the right • of way anyhow, so what is the problem. Don said I just can't do it this week or next week. I said if you are working in the right of way that is our responsibility. He said he would get at it as soon as he could, since he is doing work on a road. That is what he told me. Ted Marchell - again, 5 weeks ago I was told on Monday it would be done on that Wednesday. Supv Schug - you made a deal with him and he is not here to defend himself and I apologize for that, I thought he would be. Ted Marchell - so are we on record that he is going to have it done in 2 weeks. Supv Schug - we are on record as far as what he said. He is an elected town official as our highway superintendent. Ted Marchell - the material I have stock piled behind my building is in the way of my tenants and in the way of me completing my job. Supv Schug - yes, I have seen it. I went out of my way personally on my own time to check that out. Ted Marchell - that's great Jim I appreciate that. So anyway, as far as I am concerned they are his piles. I I2� TB8 -8 -95 Page 10 Supv Schug - I have talked to Don and I will talk to him again every chance I get to see him and ask him. Ted Marchell - how do you get it done. What is the bottom line. Supv Schug - I am not the highway superintendent and neither are these gentlemen. Ted Marchell - what is his excuse, what does he say. Supv Schug - he doesn't have the manpower and he has other things that take higher priority than doing that. Ted Marchell - if he said that to me I could live with that, but when he makes a commitment and he doesn't show up, it is a moot point. Supv Schug - my suggestion is and it would be up to the town board is you continue to try and get a hold of Don. Ted Marchell - well and I will bill you done because I have how about guys. How the back this option. Why does that stand. hoe bulldozer guy don't I do the job I will get the job coming in Thursday to do what he has to get done on my property. be a • Supv Schug - you would have to make that deal with the highway superintendent. Clm C. Hatfield - it would have to come out of his budget. Supv Schug - no, he would pay him out of his own pocket. It would be a lot cheaper for everybody in the town. Clm C. Hatfield - maybe if you presented that to him he might get at it quicker. Ted Marchell - so as much assistance as you can give me you have given me. The was a 2 year program rest of it I can deal and would probably with next year. Co. Rep. Evans him. Supv Schug - if he was here he would be having to explain to the rest of the board. Ted Marchell - I think he should be confronted, because this is getting old. Supv Schug - I suggest you continue to keep working on it and I am sure the board will too. COUNTY BRIEFING Co. Rep. Lane - Co. Rep. Evans wanted me to remind you with respect to the youth partnership money. This was a 2 year program and there probably would be a reduction this year and would probably be nonexistent next year. Co. Rep. Evans wanted the board 4W4r@ 00 you Gould plan on that for your budgeting purposes. S I TBS -8 -95 Page 11 • Supv Schug - Co. Rep. Evans better get a hold of somebody because of the deal we had with the county and the city and the youth bureau. The town would pay $5,500.00 this year and $5,500.00 next year for a 2 year program. Co. Rep. Lane - I am just relaying the message from Co. Rep. Evans so if there is any question you should get a hold of him. Supv Schug - his message was we should increase our budget. Co. Rep. Lane - his message was you should plan for that. If you remember it was a special request by all of the towns for a 2 year period. The way Charlie explained it to me was this year will be a smaller amount than last year. Supv Schug - this is the first year 1995 next year will be 1996. Co. Rep. Lane - sorry, I am talking about the budget year. So 1996 would be a lower amount than 1995 was and 1997 would probably be zero. Supv Schug - it would be nice if some of you would tell us that formally and what the drop was going to be. I want you to know as a county board rep that we are still waiting to get the contract straightened out so we can sign it. We all agreed last fall to • enter into this program. The 1st of April we get a letter saying here's a contract sign it quick so we can get the money and get this going. I don't sign a contract until it has been looked over. The contract was not what it should have been. It was something thrown together by somebody who evidently didn't really care and still trying to straighten it out. Co. Rep. Lane - I will follow up on this even though it is all new to him. Supv Schug - the funding is what I am interested in. Nobody said anything to me they were pulling the rug out from under us. For 2 years it was going to be $5,500.00 a year for the Town of Dryden, not $5,500.00 the first year and $7,000.00 the second year. That is what this board agreed to and that is what the county agreed to. You said second year the county and the town was going to would have to reduce the county funding the pick up the difference. Co. Rep. Lane - the town would have to if they keep it at the same level. Supv Schug - not in the agreement that you have written. We will be happy to sign when you straighten it out. $5,500.00 a year. We can budget anything, but it would be nice if Charlie let us know. Co. Rep. Lane - I will speak to him and tell him you have a question. % 33 N d i P i TBB -8 -95 • Co. Rep. Lane - updated bridge started work on SPCA approached Page 12 I sent the board members a copy of the county's plan. TC3 has approved their budget and they have their master plan improvements. I understand the the Town of Ithaca about funding for cat control. Supv Schug - the SPCA went to the To their dog enumeration for somewhere get all of the dogs from the Town of they are covering more than the cost wn of Ithaca and agreed to do over $5,000.00. If they can Ithaca registered and show they asked the Town of Ithaca It they could not have some more money to off set the number of cats that are turned in. Co. Rep. Lane - did not know the details, but the cat control came into that discussion. Supv Schug - the Town of Ithaca agreed to pay $5,500.00 for dog enumeration. They are asking every town for every cat turned in to pay so much money. COUNCILMAN PRIVILEGE OF THE FLOOR Clm C. Hatfield - questioned the solid waste fee being put on the town and county tax bill. Co. Rep. Lane - there is a proposed contract for the solid waste fee collection which the county has proposed which would include payments to the towns either in the form of computer equipment or dollars in lieu of that. After the meeting with the supervisors some additional incentive was added including the agreement to reimbursement the towns for the cost of printing the tax bills, which you are currently getting a bill for. A hold harmless provision for the clerks which was put in there at their request in the event there was any litigation against them personally as tax collectors. If someone said it was illegal for them to collect the solid waste fee the county would have to hold harmless in a law suit. The Town of Ithaca decided to basically put it on hold, which probably means unless all of the towns go ahead or they change their mind it is not going to happen for 1996. The county still feels it is an important service to have provided to the people of Tompkins County and we will do whatever is necessary to continue to try to press that so it becomes one bill, one payment, one check option for people. Clm C. Hatfield - the Town of Lansing also voted against this request from the county. Clm T. Hatfield - there seems to be some kind of miscommunication. We hear you say there is compensation built in. Co. Rep. Lane - we have had several meetings and the last one the only towns that were not there was the Town of Dryden and Town of ® Enfield. The information I believe the board members have indicated the potential improvements in costs in retaining all of I35_ TB8 -8 -95 Page 13 of the money from the solid waste fee, which will go toward your warrant faster. There could be some additional investment in terms of accounts plus the computer software which is over $2,000.00 for a 486 computer, plus the savings to the taxpayers. Clm T. Hatfield - the Town of Lansing and Town of Ithaca have already voted against it. It seems there should be some further i Communication as to where these costs go. j Co. Rep. Lane - may I suggest a course of action you may want to consider and that is not to necessarily reject it, but to do something similar to what the Town of Ithaca did and to say you would like to continue to discuss it. Atty Perkins - did you say the County was not going to charge the town for the tax bills and postage. Co. Rep. Lane - you are being charged for it now. We agreed that we would reimburse you. Atty Perkins - the cost of the tax bills and postage shall be charged against the town as per RPTL Sect 922. Another paragraph says the County will reimburse the town for the cost of printing the tax bills. Co. Rep. Lane - according to the auditors we have to charge the towns, but under this program the towns would get reimbursed that same charge. Co. Rep. Lane - all system because they of the all have towns would have to to be on the same go along software. with this The County would have to put all of the software in place for all of the towns. There is no way we could do it for 9 towns and leave the other town on the other software. Clm Roberts - wanted to know if there had been any study done on bills paid by escrow as to whether or not the banks will pay the solid waste fee or will that cause a lot of extra paper work. Co. Rep. Lane - the banks would be paying them just the way they are now. Co. Rep. Lane - they have tried to communicate and they have had a tough time because of a built in antipathy toward the solid waste fee itself. I believe there is a fear on the part of the tax collectors that for some reason they are going to be the recipients of all of the ill will over the solid waste fee. I think that is over stated, but any time there is a change there always is apprehension. 11 TB8 -8 -95 Page 14 Supv Schug - I think there is another thing also. A year ago about 2 months before tax bills came out the county tried to push it through in a very short time. There were all kinds of questions they couldn't answer and didn't answer at the time. They pulled their horns back. Now I think all of the town clerks are looking at it with a real careful eye and not let anyone put something over on them with a 2 month notice and all of a sudden you are going to do it. I think that is part of the battle you are fighting with the clerks. Co. Rep. Lane - it certainly was not handled well by the staff last year. I think they had the best intentions, but it didn't come across. I do think we did a better job of it this year. We have had a number of meetings and tried to talk with the clerks. There are some clerks who are not interested in computerization. The supervisor from Lansing wanted to know how many county employees would be eliminated with this change. There would be no county employees eliminated other than what had been eliminated in the solid waste department. The solid waste department would be financing this since it is a solid waste fee. When Ray Mackey raised the question of isn't what we really should be looking at is a consolidation of tax collection services. Shouldn't we really be looking at having the banks collect for all this. Could they do it more efficiently then having 10 tax collectors around the towns. The Ithaca Town Clerk said we wouldn't want that because it would be taking away our jobs. It was interesting to see the range, county jobs are bad, but town jobs are okay. We are trying to come up with a system that is more efficient for everybody and reduce costs. Supv Schug - you pay them all to the county and the county fills our warrant and send us the money. Co. Rep. Lane - I think the county would be willing to do that except it requires state legislation. Supv Schug - and how many more people. Co. Rep. Lane - I think the net would be fewer. Supv Schug - it would have been a lot easier if the tax payments hadn't been split. Co. Rep. Lane - I agree that was not a good move. E /3 • RESOLUTION NO. 192 (1995) Councilman Charles Hatfield offered the following resolution and asked for its adoption. WHEREAS, in 1946, pursuant to the New York State Highway Law, the Tompkins County Board of Representatives resolved to take over the bridges having a span greater than 25 feet located outside of the City of Ithaca, and WHEREAS, the County of Tompkins, through its Highway Department, has had the responsibility for repair and maintenance of such bridges over the past 49 years, and WHEREAS, repairing and maintaining these bridges is an essential function of Tompkins County government which involves responsibility for the safety and well being of all Tompkins County residents, and WHEREAS, the Tompkins County Board of Representatives has ceased allocating sufficient funds to properly maintain the Tompkins County bridge system leading to the closure of several bridges and the inevitable closure of others, and WHEREAS, the delay of annual maintenance will only compound ® the financial burden that County residents will bear in the future, and WHEREAS, the failure to maintain and repair such bridge system in a timely manner has greatly reduced the life span of bridges under the responsibility of Tompkins County and will likely tremendously increase the cost of repair, and WHEREAS, the failure to repair and led to long detours and limited access to Such detours are not only inconvenient to a dangerous condition for rural residents times for emergency vehicles may be impe maintain the bridges has many areas of the County. the residents, but create since response and return :ded, and WHEREAS, the failure to repair and maintain the bridges has created a potential liability for Tompkins County in that the danger of accidents and bridge failures is increased, and WHEREAS, the Tompkins County Board of Representatives has in recent years failed to present a budget or plan which would accomplish either reopening of closed bridges, performing postponed repairs and adequately maintaining the bridges which are still open, NOW, THEREFORE, be it RESOLVED, the Town Board of the Town of Dryden requests that the Tompkins County Board of Representatives allocate sufficient funds in the 1996 budget to repair and assumed responsibility for, and be it maintain the bridges it has FURTHER RESOLVED, the Town Board of the Town of Dryden requests that the Tompkins County Board of Representatives acknowledge bridge repair and maintenance as an essential function of government by preparing a plan for reopening of closed bridges and performing postponed repairs and maintenance on the bridges which are still open. Seconded Councilman John Baker. Roll call vote - all voting Yes 137 TB8 -8 -95 Page 15 RESOLUTION #191 TOMPKINS COUNTY SOLID WASTE • FEE ON THE 1996 TOWN & COUNTY TAX BILL 4) Clm C. Hatfield offered the following resolution and asked for its adoption: BE IT RESOLVED, the Town of Dryden Town Board does hereby determine the projected costs to the Town for collecting the Tompkins County Solid Waste Fee will exceed the anticipated revenues estimated by Tompkins County; AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, not in the best interest of Tompkins County Solid Waste Bill due to increased costs negotiate a satisfactory co Town of Dryden; the Town Board hereby concludes it is the Town of Dryden to collect the Fee on the 1996 Town and County Tax of collection, with sufficient time to ntract between Tompkins County and the AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, the Town of Dryden will continue to work with Tompkins County for the expressed interest of considering collection of the solid waste fee in the future when there is a proper time frame for evaluation of the information provided, and when there can be more extensive negotiations regarding a contract. 2nd Clm T. Hatfield Roll call vote - all voting Yes Clm Roberts - Atty Perkins replied to the review of the cable commissions draft of their proposal for the agreement between the cable company and the county. I was wondering what the status. Supv Schug - the copy to our representative and the secretary in the Village of Lansing called about something else to do with our being part of the cable commission. The town agreed to be part of the cable commission last year. This just came through to be signed. The comments Atty Perkins made were also sent to her so they can be considered with the agreement. i Clm Roberts - I was wondering when we might see something. It would be nice to see something before the time of actual approval so we would be able to comment on it. I ATTORNEY Howser vs Lok & Lim - no change Recreation Partnership review - no change WDCC transfer update - no change RESOLUTION #192 REPAIR & MAINTENANCE OF BRIDGES Clm C. Hatfield offered the following resolution and asked for its adoption: (copy in minute book) 2nd Clm Baker Roll call vote - all voting Yes i RESOLUTION NO. 193 (1995) Councilman Thomas Hatfield offered the following resolution and asked for its adoption. RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor is authorized to negotiate an agreement with Tompkins Cortland Community College whereby the Town (on behalf of any water, improvement or special district to be formed) would be permitted to connect to the existing Tompkins Cortland Community College 10" ACP water main and, subject to applicable regulatory agency approval only, be permitted to take water from such water main for such district purposes, and it is FURTHER RESOD consideration for permanent easement Cortland Community View Drive, and it 'ED, that such the agreement for a water College in anc is agreement is the fair and adequate by the Town to grant a 20' wide main to be installed by Tompkins across Town property known as Far FURTHER RESOLVED, upon negotiation of such an agreement, in form and substance acceptable to the Town Attorney and Supervisor consistent with this resolution, the Supervisor is authorized to execute on behalf of the Town any documents including the agreement and easement necessary to give full force and effect to this resolution, and be it FURTHER RESOLVED, this resolution is adopted subject to a permissive referendum as provided in Article 7 of the Town Law. Seconded by Councilman John Baker. Roll call vote - all voting Yes J 3V TB8 -8 -95 Page 16 Atty Perkins - Baker Hill Road - review - the town would have to negotiate an agreement with the owner (Mr. Eastman) whereby he will convey to the town a portion of his property which is south of the point of abandonment for the purpose of the installation of an appropriate turn around to be constructed by the town. We recommend the terms of the agreement be that the owner purchase three (3) culverts which will be installed by the town in connection of the construction of the turn around and that the owner convey such property according to a survey to the town. The survey cost to be shared. RESOLUTION #193 EASEMENT TOMPKINS CORTLAND COMMUNITY COLLEGE Clm T. Hatfield offered the following resolution and asked for its adoption: (copy in minute book) 2nd Clm Baker Roll call vote - all voting Yes RESOLUTION #194 STATE LABOR LAW 472 Clm Baker offered the following resolution and asked for its adoption: (copy in minute book) 2nd Clm Roberts Roll call vote - all voting Yes ENGINEERING Dave Putnam - update on Turkey Hill water /sewer - everything is in and Bat Con is finished. There apparently is some problem with the insurance which has to be reviewed by Atty Perkins before everything is completely finished. I would recommend that the $10,000.00 that is being held by the town against Bat Con be returned as soon as Atty Perkins is satisfied that Bat Con has met all of the requirements. Atty Perkins - believes the insurance is in place, I just want to see the policy. Dave Putnam - NYSE &G tank inspection - is finished. The primer on the inside is not in too bad a shape. There are some spots that need to be welded. The finished coat on the inside is in very poor shape and needs to be painted next year. I will have the full report for next months board meeting. ZONING OFFICER Monthly report - given to board members Z.O. Slater - Cortland Paving - Mr. Ottenshot continues to use the gravel yard at will. Z.O. Slater - unsafe structure at 1062 Dryden Rd. - needs action. is I have received empty promises to clean the property up and nothing has been done. E E :1 TOWN OF DRYDEN s DRYDEN, NEW YORK 65 EAST MAIN STREET, DRYDEN, NEW YORK 13053 607 - 844 -9120 ZONING & BUILDING CODE ENFORCEMENT August 10, 1995 In the Heart of the Finger Lakes Region Commissioner of Labor State Campus Albany, New York 12240 -0002 Dear Sir: Enclosed please find a certified copy of Resolution No. 194 adopted by the Town Board on August 8, 19950 Please forward to my attention the certification of receipt required by the statute. If you have any questions you may contact the undersigned. Very truly yours, ni Henry M. Slater Code Enforcement Officer HMS /lm Enclosure pc: James F. Schug, Town Supervisor Mahlon R. Perkins, Town Attorney I H 1► • RESOLUTION NO. 194 (1995) Councilman Baker offered the following resolution and asked for its adoption. WHEREAS, New York State Labor Law §472 provides that the Commissioner of Labor shall enforce the provisions of Article 17 of the Labor Law involving inspection of places of public assembly, and WHEREAS, Labor Law §472(b) provides that the responsibility for enforcement of such Article may be assumed by the Town of Dryden upon the adoption of a resolution and upon filing a copy with the Commissioner of Labor, and WHEREAS, the Town of Dryden has for some time through its Building and Zoning Department and Code Enforcement Officer conducted the necessary inspections required by Article 17 of the Labor Law, NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED AS FOLLOWS: 10 The Town of Dryden shall assume full responsibility for enforcing the provisions of Article 17 of the New York Labor Law and the rules adopted thereunder. 2. The Code Enforcement Officer is hereby directed to send a certified copy of this resolution to the Commissioner of Labor. 3. This resolution shall take effect upon receipt of a certification of receipt of such resolution by the Commissioner of Labor. Seconded by Councilman Roberts Roll call vote - all voting Yes E C STATE OF NEW YORK DEPARTMENT OF LABOR DIVISION OF SAFETY AND HEALTH : Industry Inspection Bureau Building #12, Room 457 State Office Building Campus Albany, NY 12240 August 23, 1995 Ms. Susanne Lloyd Town Clerk Town of Dryden P. O. Box 516 65 East Main Street Dryden, New York 13053 Dear Ms. Lloyd: Commissioner Sweeney has asked me to acknowledge receipt of the Town of Dryden Resolution #194(1995) which was adopted August 8, 19950 Please be advised that by filing this Resolution with the Commissioner of Labor, the Town of Dryden has assumed full responsibility for the enforcement of Article 17 of the Labor Law and the rules adopted thereunder in all places of public assembly previously inspected by the Department of Labor within the boundaries of the Town of Dryden. JOB: cc cc: Henry M. Slater Commissioner Peterson Sincerely, f James O. Barber Program Manager II STATE OF NEW YORK DEPARTMENT OF LABOR DIVISION OF SAFETY AND HEALTH Ms. Susanne Lloyd Town Clerk Town of Dryden P. O. Box 516 65 East Main Street Dryden, New York 13053 Dear Ms. Lloyd. Industry Inspection Bureau Building #12, Room 457 State Office Building Campus Albany, NY 12240 August 23, 1995 Commissioner Sweeney has asked me to acknowledge receipt of the Town of Dryden Resolution #194(1995) which was adopted August 8, 19950 Please be advised that by filing this Resolution with the Commissioner of Labor, the Town of Dryden has assumed ® full responsibility for the enforcement of Article 17 of the Labor Law and the rules adopted thereunder in all places of public assembly previously inspected by the Department of Labor within the boundaries of the Town of Dryden. JOB: cc cc. Henry M. Slater Commissioner Peterson Sincerely, James O. Barber Program Manager II E r: NOTICE OF ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION BY TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF DRYDEN NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN pursuant to the provisions of New York Town Law Section 90 that the Town Board of the Town of Dryden, County of Tompkins, New York, at a regular meeting thereof held on the 8th day of August, 1995, duly adopted a resolution, an abstract of which is as follows: A resolution granting a 20' wide permanent easement for a water line to be installed by Tompkins Cortland Community College in a portion of Far View Drive on the agreement by said College that the Town may connect to College water lines. Said resolution was adopted subject to a permissive - referendum as provided in Article 7 of the Town Law. By Order of the Town Board of the Town of Dryden, New York Susanne Lloyclr� own u&rk 0 I 0 CC Date: To: From: Sub. August 2nd, 1995 James Schug, Dryden Town Henry M. Slater, Zoning & Supervisor Building Code 1 i' RECEIVED AUG 21995 DRYnFN TMAIN SUPFRVISQF Enforcement Off. July 1,95 Building & Zoning Activity Report Dear Jim: Building Permits: During the month of July 195, our department issued 21 Building Permits which are described as follows. A -1 Single Family homes New Starts (7) A -2 Two Family home New Starts 0) A -1 Replace existing non - conforming single wide Mobile home with a conforming single wide home (1) C -4.1 Erect Private Garage (2) C -7 Install Private Residential Swimming Pools (5) C -7 Erect & Attach exterior Decks.& Porches (4) C -7 Demolish Storm Damaged Storage Barn (1) As you'll observe, for the second straight month New Start construction taxable values exceed 1,000;000 Dollars. It would appear, that the summer rally will assure; at least an average growth year. Certificates of Occupancy and Compliance Certificate of Occupancy (10) Temp / Conditional Certificates of Occupancy (0) Certificate of Compliance (5) Public Inspections, Fire Safety Multiple Residence Facilities (0) Business Facilities (2) Home Day Care Facilities (1) Fire Investigations for the Month of July (1) There was only one F for an out of contro vegetation on fire. location this year, Station were very co displayed by the own in March. Based on having a non - contain ire 1 t As bot nee er thi ed Cal rash thi h ou rned both S7 I and 1 which was at 331 Hunt Hill Road fire which set the surrounding s was the second call to this same r office and the Dryden Fire with the nonchalant attitude during this and the previous call have issued a violation for unattended fire. The ZBA met to rehear the Patricia Schlecht variance request for the 135 - 139 North Street Area Variance request. The hearing was adjourned pending the applicant submitting further detailing concerning the potential for first mortgage holder finance. So far no details have been submitted. 1 July 195 Activity Report Page Two The Planning Hoard did not meet, as they had no business to conduct. Very truly yours, CA", I%%%34& Henry M. Slater cc: All Dryden Town Board Members Susanne Lloyd, Dryden Town Clerk Mahlon R. Perkins, Dryden Town Attorney E 9 I CERTIFICATE OF ABANDONMENT The undersigned, DONALD Superintendent of of the Town of Dryden, County of Tompkins, That a portion of the highway in the said Town of Dryden, known and described as Baker Hill toaahehas datenot ofbeen thistraveled certificate , used andasaidY1highway for is six or more years prior Hereby declared abandoned pursuant to Section 205 of the Highway Law as a highway and public right -of -way. That portion of Baker hill Road which is hereby abandoned is more particularly described as follows: Beginning at a point located southerly 1666 feet from the intersection offthe c P ; with Pleasant Road and thencesoutherlywfor the centerline o the remainder of the former road. This certificate is made with the consent of a majority of the Town Board of the Town of Dryden. IN WITNESS WHEREOF the undersigned Superintendent of Highways has executed this certificate together with a majority of the Town Board. �j `^ Dated* August 1995 " Dryden, New York 17 Donald Gilbert Superintendent of Highways 0 1 Members of the Town Board of the Town of Dryden, County of T pkn�F s —Ne7 Ja e. Sch Yfo- rSkup•C% e, � rv.�c1 ,t ./ r / C a les Hatf ieO All R6nald Roberts, /pdunc Filed and recorded in the Town Clerk's Office of the Town of Dryden, County of Tompkins, New York on August I4, 1995s sanne Lloyd, Tow, Cler Ell in Baker,/JCouncilman omas Hatfield, Cou c n man n mi /37 TB8 -8 -95 Page 17 • Z.O. Slater - Deidrick's no parking signs on North Road - I received a UFPO order on Monday stating they were going to do it today. As of 390OPM they were not up, but they are marked to be put in. HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT Yellow Barn Road, Caswell Road and Hile School Road - on hold Supv Schug - Penn Can road bills - the invoices have been held out. I question if it was put out to bid like everything else and does it have to be done at that exact time. Why couldn't it have been approved by the town board. Could another company accomplished the same thing and have two people bid on it. Could we have used the county paver. If the two bidders on the state contract can't do it, shouldn't we ask for a copy if they are agreeable to do the work or they are unable to do the work. i Clm Roberts - according to the purchasing policy Don is supposed to come through the town board if it is not on bid. Supv Schug - absolutely. Clm C. Hatfield - the work has already been done, right. Supv Schug - yes, and I have met with Don concerning something ® else and asked him to get us a reason as to why he didn't have them approved by the town board. Board members have copies of all correspondence concerning highway bills. Clm Baker - would be inclined to hold off paying the bills for a month until the people who did the work bring some legitimate information to the board. Clm T. Hatfield - are we legally obligated to pay this bill. They did the the law of work authorized by the town highway superintendent. Atty Perkins - I don't think you are obligated to pay the bill if it was in violation of the law of competitive bid. Clm T. Hatfield - if it was put out to bid you could follow procurement procedure of the town. Atty Perkins - the reason he has the authority to purchase the normal type of service is on state bid or contract unless there is an exemption offered under state contract bid. Clm T. Hatfield - I don't see any reason to rush to pay these bills and I agree with Clm Baker. I feel to a certain extent we don't need to have the vendors talking about us as far as not paying the bills that are due that are legitimate, but I don't see is where we have any legitimate basis for approving this. Clm C. Hatfield - for the companies that are not getting paid, maybe they can get after the highway superintendent and then maybe he will realize there are certain procedures he has to follow. �J 0 TB8 -8 -95 Page 18 RESOLUTION #195 CELLULAR PHONE Clm T. Hatfield offered the following resolution and asked for its adoption: RESOLVED, that this Town Board pay one half of the monthly service charge for Don Gilbert's cellular phone bill ($19.50). 2nd Clm C. Hatfield Roll call vote - all voting Yes RESOLUTION #196 SELL AT LANSING AUCTION Clm C. Hatfield offered the following resolution and asked for its adoption: RESOLVED, that this Town at the September auction screen, (2) dump boxes, and (2) fuel pumps. Board authorize Hwy Supt in Lansing the following (1) 1983 dump truck, (3) 1950's Gilbert items: Power V to sell plows 2nd Clm Baker for January to Roll call Perkins will vote - all voting Yes RESOLUTION #197 BONE PLAIN ROAD ENGINEERING WORK Clm Roberts offered the following resolution and asked for its adoption. RESOLVED, that this Town engineering work on Bone $3,000.00. 2nd Clm T. Hatfield CORRESPONDENCE Board authorize T. G. Miller for Plain Road in an amount not to exceed Roll call vote - all voting Yes Dryden Lake police report for the month of July Supv Schug - Tompkins County agrees the town can work in the Van Nortwick Cemetery if the town will hold harmless Tompkins County against any and all claims arising out of work done there. DISCUSSION NYSE &G - movement of poles in front of town hall - on hold Supv Schug - sewer connection charge ($250.00 per unit) should be looked at and public hearing should be scheduled. Supv Schug appointed Clm C. Hatfield and Clm Baker to audit the town a job books personnel for January to June. JUSTICE REPORT - $17,161.00 for the month of July FINANCIAL REPORT - available to board members Supv Schug appointed Clm T. Hatfield and Clm Baker to work with the Dryden Ambulance to write a job description for ambulance personnel and have ready for Sept. 5th board meeting. Also, Atty Perkins will research the necessary information needed for an ambulance district and billing. I i �I i TB8 -8 -95 Page 19 RESOLUTION #198 AUDIT ABSTRACT #108 Clm Baker offered the following resolution and asked for its adoption: RESOLVED, that of voucher #621, approved out of Voucher #585 to 2nd Clm Roberts abstract #6260 $555.00 #675 #108 be #645 (1 - $210.00 for a total Roll call paid as audited with out of 5 approved), #651 approved out of $315.00). of $$194,453.96 vote - all voting the exception ($390.00 Yes RESOLUTION #199 REPRESENTATIVE ON PARK COMMITTEE Clm C. Hatfield offered the following resolution and asked for its adoption: RESOLVED, that this Town Board appoint Gary MacDowell as a representative on the Park Committee. 2nd Clm Roberts Roll call vote - all voting Yes RESOLUTION #200 PROFESSIONAL SERVICES - Noel Desch Clm Baker offered the following resolution and asked for its adoption: RESOLVED, that this Town Board authorize using the professional services of Noel Desch for water and sewer studies in an amount not to exceed $4,000.00. ® 2nd Clm T. Hatfield Roll call vote - all voting Yes Recessed for executive session 11:30PM Reconvened at 11 :45PM Atty Perkins - regarding unsafe structure public hearing on Cortland Rd. - the only comment was from Mark Bell stating the fire department had been contacted to burn it. Henry stated he had issued a demolition permit. Local Law requires that demolition commences within 30 days and completed within 60. I recommend the board wait the 60 days from when the permit was issued and not take any further action at the town expense until he has exhausted all of the possibility of his time to do it. At the Oct. meeting we will be ready to recommend what action to take. NEW BUSINESS September 5th October 10th November 14th December 12th December 27th - board meeting - board meeting - board meeting - board meeting - noon meeting (end of Adjourned 12 :00 midnight Susanne Lloyd Dryden Town Clerk year meeting) 3 9