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Paulette Rosa
From:David Oshea <DOshea@townithacany.gov>
Sent:Thursday, April 10, 2025 2:58 PM
To:Paulette Rosa
Subject:FW: SPDES Permit Review Question - Town of Ithaca
David O'Shea, P.E.
Director of Engineering/Town Engineer
Town of Ithaca
607-273-1656 ext 257
From: Nicholson, Brian M (DEC) <Brian.Nicholson@dec.ny.gov>
Sent: Monday, December 2, 2024 3:33 PM
To: Justin McNeal <JMcNeal@townithacany.gov>
Cc: David Oshea <DOshea@townithacany.gov>; Hanas, Debra (DEC) <Debra.Hanas@dec.ny.gov>; Emily Rodgers
<erodgers@townithacany.gov>
Subject: RE: SPDES Permit Review Question - Town of Ithaca
Hi JusƟn,
I reviewed a design manual from Aug. 2003 and I didn’t find the requirement to model ag land as meadow cover type
back then, so I don’t want to hold them to that design standard from the design they developed in 2002/3. They can
design the stormwater pracƟces based on the current site as exisƟng condiƟons and design the stormwater pracƟces
accordingly to the new development. If your team has documentaƟon showing they were required to meet “Meadow
cover” during the 2003 design, then we can look at holding them to that design standard.
Thanks,
Brian
Brian M. Nicholson, P.E.
Professional Engineer 1 (Env.)
Region 7, Division of Water
New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
5786 Widewaters Parkway, Syracuse, NY 13214-1867
P: 315-426-7530 | F: 315-426-7459 | brian.nicholson@dec.ny.gov
www.dec.ny.gov | |
From: Nicholson, Brian M (DEC)
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2024 3:58 PM
To: Justin McNeal <JMcNeal@townithacany.gov>
Cc: David Oshea <DOshea@townithacany.gov>; Hanas, Debra (DEC) <Debra.Hanas@dec.ny.gov>; Emily Rodgers
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<erodgers@townithacany.gov>
Subject: RE: SPDES Permit Review Question - Town of Ithaca
Hi JusƟn,
I’ve sent out a couple of emails to see what my colleagues think about this situaƟon. I’ll get back to you next week with
an answer.
Thanks,
Brian
From: Justin McNeal <JMcNeal@townithacany.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2024 8:07 AM
To: Hanas, Debra (DEC) <Debra.Hanas@dec.ny.gov>; Nicholson, Brian M (DEC) <Brian.Nicholson@dec.ny.gov>
Cc: David Oshea <DOshea@townithacany.gov>; Emily Rodgers <erodgers@townithacany.gov>
Subject: SPDES Permit Review Question - Town of Ithaca
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Good Morning Deb and Brian,
We would like some clarification regarding a proposed project in the Town of Ithaca. The project is proposing to
convert an existing natural turf grass field with underdrains into a synthetic turf field along with a few small
buildings, spectator facilities, and increasing the parking area at an existing sports complex. The existing site has a
total of 4 natural turf grass fields with underdrains, a gravel parking lot and driveway, and a metal building with
locker rooms and bathrooms. As part of the original project in 2003, 2 stormwater ponds were installed for both
water quality treatment and quantity attenuation.
The proposed project will be removing the 2 existing ponds and replacing them with an extended detention shallow
wetland practice. At the time the SWPPP was approved in 2003, the applicant modeled the precondition as row
crop. Only one of the natural grass turf fields will be disturbed during this project, the remaining 3 with remain
undisturbed. Now that they are proposing to remove the 2 stormwater ponds with this project and install a new
practice for attenuation, we are thinking the applicant should model the pre-condition as meadow prior to the
2003 project not the current pond outflows (which are based on the natural turf fields with under drains being
considered a pervious surface). Our rational is based on recent guidance received from DEC pertaining to natural
turf fields with underdrains being considered an impervious surface.
How should this be handled? Should the applicant be required to re-evaluate the quantity attenuation for the
entire site with the pre-construction condition being the condition prior to the 2003 project or can they use the pre-
condition as the pond discharge rates which were developed based on the fields being considered as
pervious? The question is ultimately being posed because a new attenuation practice is being installed to replace
the ponds.
Sincerely,
Justin McNeal
Civil Engineer
Town of Ithaca Engineering Dept.
114 Seven Mile Drive
Ithaca, NY 14850
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Paulette Rosa
From:David Oshea <DOshea@townithacany.gov>
Sent:Thursday, April 10, 2025 2:58 PM
To:Paulette Rosa
Subject:FW: Game Farm Field Hockey Project Engineering Review Memo
David O'Shea, P.E.
Director of Engineering/Town Engineer
Town of Ithaca
607-273-1656 ext 257
From: Justin McNeal <JMcNeal@townithacany.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2024 10:47 AM
To: Chris Balestra <CBalestra@townithacany.gov>; David Oshea <DOshea@townithacany.gov>; Emily Rodgers
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Cc: Abby Homer <ahomer@townithacany.gov>
Subject: RE: Game Farm Field Hockey Project Engineering Review Memo
Hello Chris,
Yep, we would like to send them out to the applicant team so they can get a jump on the comments. We have had
a couple of quick conversations with the Engineer, they have asked if we had reviewed the materials submitted
and if we have any comments. We understand that they may need to change things as the Planning Board reviews
materials, but we are also trying to coordinate reviews between the multiple Dev Rev projects. We would like to
have this comment letter out to them before they send in the next set of revisions to limit the number of times we
are reviewing the materials.
Thank You,
Justin McNeal
Civil Engineer
Town of Ithaca Engineering Dept.
114 Seven Mile Drive
Ithaca, NY 14850
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From: Chris Balestra <CBalestra@townithacany.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2024 10:30 AM
To: Justin McNeal <JMcNeal@townithacany.gov>; David Oshea <DOshea@townithacany.gov>; Emily Rodgers
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Cc: Abby Homer <ahomer@townithacany.gov>
Subject: RE: Game Farm Field Hockey Project Engineering Review Memo
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Thanks Justin.
This information is fantastic, but extremely premature.
The PB hasn’t even decided to be the lead agency in the environmental review. And there’s a good chance that
plans (and SWPPP) will need modification, as the project does go through the environmental review. We are about
two steps away from that now.
Are you sure you don’t want to hang onto these comments until a later phase of review (e.g., SEQR determination,
or preliminary site plan review)?
Christine Balestra, Senior Planner
Town of Ithaca Planning Department
215 North Tioga Street
Ithaca, NY 14850
(607) 273-1721, ext. 121
cbalestra@townithacany.gov
From: Justin McNeal <JMcNeal@townithacany.gov>
Sent: Friday, December 6, 2024 10:53 AM
To: Chris Balestra <CBalestra@townithacany.gov>
Cc: Abby Homer <ahomer@townithacany.gov>
Subject: Game Farm Field Hockey Project Engineering Review Memo
Good Morning Chris,
We have completed our initial review of the Game Farm Field Hockey project. Could you please send this out to
the project team? If you would like me to upload it somewhere specific instead, please let me know.
Have a good weekend,
Justin McNeal
Civil Engineer
Town of Ithaca Engineering Dept.
114 Seven Mile Drive
Ithaca, NY 14850
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605 W. State Street | Ithaca, NY 14850 | phone 607-272-6477 | fax 607-273-6322 | www.tgmillerpc.com
David A. Herrick, P.E.
Frank L Santelli, P.E.
Owen B. Barden, P.E.
Donald M. Harner, P.E.
LEED A.P., C.P.E.S.C.
Lee Dresser, L.S.
Jacqueline L. Dresser, L.S.
March 14, 2025
Kimberly Van Leeuwen, RLA
Director of Landscape Architecture
Fisher Associates
1001 W. Seneca Street
Ithaca, New York 14850
Re: Cornell University Game Farm Road Field Hockey Field
Town of Ithaca SWPPP Review Comments
Dear Ms. Van Leeuwen:
Below please find our responses to review comments dated December 6, 2024 and prepared by
David O’Shea, P.E. for the above referenced project. For ease of review, original review
comments are re-stated and our responses are included in bold type.
Sewer:
1.Prior to Final Site Plan Approval Submission, A Sewer Exemption Request must be
submitted to the Town of Ithaca Engineering Department regarding the proposed
septic system. The request will go before the Public Works Committee and the Town
Board for review and approval.
TGM Response: Acknowledged, a sewer exemption request was submitted to
the Town by Cornell University on March 7, 2025.
2.All plan sheets should be updated to show the existing septic system filter area and
proposed filter area. These areas should be delineated to be protected during
construction.
TGM Response: The existing septic system is noted on all project drawings and
notes are added to protect these areas.
Stormwater:
1.The complete SWPPP and associated documents will need to be uploaded to
OpenGov under a SWPPP application and fee paid once they have been approved.
TGM Response: The SWPPP will be uploaded to OpenGov and the application
fee will be paid.
2.Revise the table of contents to correct page numbers and remove unused chapters.
TGM Response: The table of contents has been revised accordingly.
3.Please update the SWPPP to include information and associated requirements for
seeking a 5-ac waiver for disturbance.
TGM Response: Page 1 of the SWPPP includes language regarding the need for
written authorization prior to disturbing 5 acres.
T.G. Miller, P.C. 2
4.Please indicate which version of the New York State Stormwater Management
Design Manual was used for this project.
TGM Response: The 2015 New York State Stormwater Management Desing
Manual was used for the project.
5.Please update the Vol. I narrative regarding fill sites. If the fill site is within an MS4,
the MS4 must approve the site and sign onto the SWPPP.
TGM Response: Based on recent communications with NYSDEC Region 7
Staff, we have learned that remote fill sites (i.e. greater than ¼-mile from the
project) do not need to sign onto the project SWPPP. It is still the responsibility
of any fill site owner to comply with local and NYSDEC regulations pertaining
to soil disturbance activities on the land of those fill sites. The written
communications between TGM and NYSDEC will be shared with the Town
Engineer. The SWPPP has been revised to reflect this.
6.Please update the SWPPP narrative to correctly and consistently identify the onsite
soil groups. Dual soil groups are identified in the mapping. Please elaborate on
what value you are using and why.
TGM Response: The dual soil groups identified in the USDA soil survey have
been added to on-site soil section of the SWPPP narrative. For areas where
dual soil groups have been identified, they are assumed to have a HSG rating
of “D”. This assumption is based on the onsite infiltration and percolation
testing conducted (Please see response to comment #14 for additional
information). Additionally, the previously approved 2003 SWPPP utilized a
HSG rating of “D” for all dual soil group areas.
7.Please update existing tables or provide additional tables identifying the amount of
new impervious per watershed. The map provided does not provide this information
as you are modifying drainage boundaries.
TGM Response: After further conversation with the Town Engineering staff
this comment is no longer applicable.
8.Update the narrative to provide information on how the turf field will drain and get
into the drainage system.
TGM Response: The SWPPP narrative has been updated accordingly.
9.There are discrepancies between the SWPPP narrative and the site map
regarding impervious and pervious acreage. Please provide clarification. If the
main outer watershed boundary is not changing, Table 1 and Table 2 area
summations should be equal.
TGM Response: The SWPPP has been revised to address these
discrepancies.
10.In Watershed 4, the narrative states the area is 11.73 acres of impervious surface,
most of the area is pervious lawn. Please clarify this discrepancy.
TGM Response: Existing watershed #4 has 0.86 acres of impervious cover, not
11.73. This has been revised in both the SWPPP narrative and on the existing
watershed map.
11.The narrative references a Min Rv number of 0.2, but this value is not used in the
water quality volume or runoff reduction calculations. Please revise the calculations
accordingly.
TGM Response: Calculations have been revised accordingly.
T.G. Miller, P.C. 3
12.Please clarify why RRv is not being provided for impervious areas that are
being disturbed.
TGM Response: All existing impervious areas that will be disturbed are in
Watersheds #4A and #5. The required RRv for each is 1,210 CF and 2,510 CF,
respectively. Bioretention filter #1, located within watershed #4A, provides
1,716 CF of RRv while bioretention filter #2, located within watershed #5,
provides 3,098 CF. It should be noted, there are sections of existing
impervious area, a large portion of the gravel driveway, that is being restored
to pervious lawn.
13.Please provide the borings logs as indicated in the SWPPP. They are not included.
TGM Response: Boring logs have been attached to the SWPPP.
14.Please be more specific on why site limitations exist. Please include the definition
and which criteria allows them to be utilized.
TGM Response: Percolation testing was conducted at different locations
throughout the site as part of the 2003 McGovern soccer field project
geotechnical explorations. The results of these tests indicated infiltration rates
of less than 0.5 in/hr. Additionally, the boring logs indicate a high prevalence
of clay soils throughout the site. In support of the current project’s septic
system design, T.G. Miller, P.C. conducted percolation testing. The results also
indicated infiltration rates of less than 0.5 in/hr. Furthermore, the USDA soil
survey report for the project indicates that the underlying soil for a large
percentage of the project has hydrologic soils group rating of “D” or “C/D”.
The geotechnical report has been attached to the SWPPP.
15.Sediment Traps and Sediment Basins are both called out in the narrative and plan
set. Please verify which is being proposed. Please provide associated calculations
and details as required by the New York State Standards and Specifications for
Erosion and Sediment Control (Blue Book).
TGM Response: All references to sediment traps have been removed. Sediment
basin calculations and topography have been added to drawing C102.
16.Update the plan set to include a Concrete Washout Area and its associated
construction detail.
TGM Response: A concrete washout detail has been added to the drawings.
17.Please revise the plan set to include the following details:
•Sediment Trap or Sediment Basin
TGM Response: See response to comment #15.
•Rock Check Dam
TGM Response: A Rock Check Dam detail has been added.
•Bioretention Filter Forebay and Weir. Please review this with the landscape
plan relative to soils and vegetation requirements that differ between the
forebay and the filter area.
TGM Response: Bioretention filter and forebay plantings have been
coordinated with landscape plans.
•Extended Detention Short Wetland
TGM Response: An enlarged plan of the extended detention ‘shallow’
T.G. Miller, P.C. 4
wetland has been added to the drawings.
18.Please add the following items to the plan set.
•Include mound septic system on proposed drainage plan C105.
TGM Response: The mound septic system has been added to C105.
•Silt sock detail on Sheet C102 needs to be revised to match the Blue Book.
TGM Response: The silt log detail on C102-3 has been revised.
•Indicate material staging area on plan. Please note this area must be
on a stabilized surface.
TGM Response: The contractor material staging area has been
added to all ESC plans.
•Add winter stabilization procedures to the plan set.
TGM Response: Winter stabilization notes have been to the ESC plans.
•Indicate stream setbacks on all plan sheets. Please verify this setback was
determined in accordance with the Code of the Town of Ithaca and accounts
for any steep slopes that may be present.
TGM Response: The stream setback has been added to all applicable
plans where the viewport and scale allows. The stream setback shown
was calculated in accordance with Town of Ithaca Code, inclusive of
adjacent steep slopes.
19.Identify the length of the tracking pads.
TGM Response: The length of the tracking pads has been added to the ESC
plans.
20.Provide erosion and sediment control plan for phasing.
TGM Response: Three erosion and sediment control plans have been prepared to
reflect phasing.
21.Contour labels need to be added to the drainage plan in the stormwater practices
where they are not provided on the grading plan. It would be beneficial for the
contours in their entirety to be labeled on the drainage plan.
TGM Response: Contour labels have been added within the extended detention
shallow wetland.
22.There appears to be a difference between the drainage plan and grading plan.
Please review and update accordingly.
TGM Response: Drainage plan and grading plan have been coordinated.
23.The demo plan incorrectly identifies which pipe is being removed at the western pond.
TGM Response: The demo plan has been revised accordingly.
24.Please review the existing catch basins and proposed grading plan. There are
numerous basins around the proposed field that will need adjustments. Please review
these basins and with other site improvements. There appears to be conflicts depicted
in the plan set.
TGM Response: Notes have been added to the drainage plan indicating rim
elevation adjustments to all existing catch basins. All conflicts with site
improvements have been resolved.
25.Please identify how the existing field drains (labeled tile outlet) will be handled.
T.G. Miller, P.C. 5
TGM Response: Existing field drains will be daylighted into the proposed swale.
A note has been added to drawing C105.
26.Update landscaping plans to identify native planting are required as mentioned in
the SWPPP narrative.
TGM Response: The landscaping plans have been revised accordingly.
27.The modeling of existing conditions must align with the post-conditions outlined in
the 2003 SWPPP. This includes accurately representing the field conditions as
pervious in the pre-condition per the 2003 SWPPP and now impervious for the post
condition based on DEC’s current guidance. The ponds shall be modeled according
to their post conditions in 2003 and incorporating any missing stormwater structures
into the model.
TGM Response: Below is a table summarizing the post-development peak
discharge rates for both the 2003 McGovern SWPPP and the current CU GFR
SWPPP. For the purposes of a pre- versus post-development comparison, the
rates from 2003 SWPPP shall be considered as the pre-developed condition
per the above Town review comment. As can be seen, the post-development
peak discharge is attenuated for the 1, 10, and 100-yr storm events by the
proposed stormwater management approach. The SWPPP narrative will be
revised to consider the 2003 SWPPP post development runoff rates as the pre-
development rates for the current project.
Storm
Event
2003 SWPPP (cfs)CU GFR SWPPP (cfs)
1-yr 12.43+21.82+7.54+7.56 = 49.35 0.67
10-yr 31.16+38.32+20+11.85 = 101.33 24.44
100-yr 33.9+41.9+24.51+11.26 = 111.57 75.79
28.Please provide additional information supporting your design that water will be
conveyed to the attenuation device. Current modeling indicates that the structures are
overtopping.
TGM Response: Regarding diversion structure #1, runoff that may surcharge
out of the structure will be captured by downstream drainage structures. If for
any reason those structures become plugged and are not able to function,
then all runoff will be conveyed to the attenuation device via the overland flow
path between fields 3 & 4. Regarding diversion structure #2, the HydroCAD
model has been revised so that runoff is no longer surcharging.
29.There are numerous discrepancies between the plan set and the HydroCad
calculations. Please revise the materials accordingly. The calculations were not
reviewed in detail due to the discrepancies.
TGM Response: The HydroCAD calculations have been revised to be
consistent with applicable device rims, inverts, and typical details..
30.Please add the filters to the hydraulic modeling to verify how these systems are acting
during the larger storm events (are they overtopping, do the overflow catch basins
handle everything, etc.).
TGM Response: Both bioretention filters have been added to the HydroCAD
model.
31.Diversion Structure 2 appears to be overtopping into the bioretention filter. Provide
T.G. Miller, P.C. 6
calculations for the wetland as described in Chapter 6 section 1 and 2 of the
Stormwater Management Design Manual. Note stormwater wetlands must also meet
the requirements of Stormwater Ponds.
TGM Response: The HydroCAD calculations have been revised and diversion
structure #2 no longer surcharges. Calculations have been added to Volume 1
of the SWPPP.
Respectfully,
David A. Herrick, P.E.
Comment # = Plan Revision Required
Comment # = Needs to be Completed
Comment # = Completed
Sewer:
1. Prior to Final Site Plan Approval Submission, A Sewer Exemption Request must be
submitted to the Town of Ithaca Engineering Department regarding the proposed
septic system. The request will go before the Public Works Committee and the Town
Board for review and approval.
TGM Response: Acknowledged, a sewer exemption request will be submitted prior to final
site plan.
2. All plan sheets should be updated to show the existing septic system filter area and
proposed filter area. These areas should be delineated to be protected during
construction.
TGM Response: The existing septic system will be noted on all project drawings and notes
will be added to protect these areas.
Stormwater:
1. The complete SWPPP and associated documents will need to be uploaded to
OpenGov under a SWPPP application and fee paid once they have been approved.
TGM Response: The SWPPP will be uploaded to OpenGov and the application fee will be
paid.
2. Revise the table of contents to correct page numbers and remove unused chapters.
TGM Response: The table of contents has been revised accordingly.
3. Please update the SWPPP to include information and associated requirements for
seeking a 5-ac waiver for disturbance.
TGM Response: Page 1 of the SWPPP includes language regarding the need for written
authorization prior to disturbing 5 acres.
4. Please indicate which version of the New York State Stormwater Management
Design Manual was used for this project.
TGM Response: The 2015 New York State Stormwater Management Desing Manual was
used for the project.
5. Please update the Vol. I narrative regarding fill sites. If the fill site is within an MS4,
the MS4 must approve the site and sign onto the SWPPP.
TGM Response: Based on recent communications with NYSDEC Region 7 Staff, we have
learned that remote fill sites (i.e. greater than ¼-mile from the project) do not need to sign
onto the project SWPPP. It is still the responsibility of any fill site owner to comply with
local and NYSDEC regulations pertaining to soil disturbance activities on the land of those
fill sites. The written communications between TGM and NYSDEC will be shared with the
Town Engineer.
6. Please update the SWPPP narrative to correctly and consistently identify the onsite
soil groups. Dual soil groups are identified in the mapping. Please elaborate on what
value you are using and why.
TGM Response: The dual soil groups identified in the USDA soil survey have been added
to on-site soil section of the SWPPP narrative. For areas where dual soil groups have
been identified, they are assumed to have a HSG rating of “D”. This assumption is based
on the onsite infiltration and percolation testing conducted (Please see response to
comment #14 for additional information). Additionally, the previously approved 2003
SWPPP utilized a HSG rating of “D” for all dual soil group areas.
7. Please update existing tables or provide additional tables identifying the amount of
new impervious per watershed. The map provided does not provide this information
as you are modifying drainage boundaries.
TGM Response: The proposed watershed map will be updated to distinguish between
existing and new imperious cover per watershed.
8. Update the narrative to provide information on how the turf field will drain and get
into the drainage system.
TGM Response: The SWPPP narrative has been updated accordingly.
9. There are discrepancies between the SWPPP narrative and the site map regarding
impervious and pervious acreage. Please provide clarification. If the main outer
watershed boundary is not changing, Table 1 and Table 2 area summations should
be equal.
TGM Response: The SWPPP has been revised to address these discrepancies.
10. In Watershed 4, the narrative states the area is 11.73 acres of impervious surface, most
of the area is pervious lawn. Please clarify this discrepancy.
TGM Response: Existing watershed #4 has 0.86 acres of impervious cover, not 11.73. This
has been revised in both the SWPPP narrative and on the existing watershed map.
11. The narrative references a Min Rv number of 0.2, but this value is not used in the
water quality volume or runoff reduction calculations. Please revise the calculations
accordingly.
TGM Response: For watershed #4A, a Min. RRv HSG reduction factor of 0.2 was used. This
value is represented on the Water Quality Volume calculation sheet included in volume II.
Please note, a value of 0.3 was used for watershed #5.
12. Please clarify why RRv is not being provided for impervious areas that are
being disturbed.
TGM Response: All existing impervious areas that will be disturbed are in Watersheds #4A
and #5. The required RRv for each is 1,210 CF and 2,510 CF, respectively. Bioretention
filter #1, located within watershed #4A, provides 1,716 CF of RRv while bioretention filter
#2, located within watershed #5, provides 3,098 CF. It should be noted, there are sections
of existing impervious area, a large portion of the gravel driveway, that is being restored
to pervious lawn.
13. Please provide the borings logs as indicated in the SWPPP. They are not included.
TGM Response: Boring logs have been attached to the SWPPP.
14. Please be more specific on why site limitations exist. Please include the definition
and which criteria allows them to be utilized.
TGM Response: Percolation testing was conducted at different locations throughout the
site as part of the 2003 McGovern soccer field project geotechnical explorations. The
results of these tests indicated infiltration rates of less than 0.5 in/hr. Additionally, the
boring logs indicate a high prevalence of clay soils throughout the site. In support of the
current project’s septic system design, T.G. Miller, P.C. conducted percolation testing. The
results also indicated infiltration rates of less than 0.5 in/hr. Furthermore, the USDA soil
survey report for the project indicates that the underlying soil for a large percentage of
the project has hydrologic soils group rating of “D” or “C/D”. The geotechnical report and
septic percolation testing have been attached to the SWPPP.
15. Sediment Traps and Sediment Basins are both called out in the narrative and plan set.
Please verify which is being proposed. Please provide associated calculations and
details as required by the New York State Standards and Specifications for Erosion
and Sediment Control (Blue Book).
TGM Response: All references to sediment traps have been removed. Sediment basin
calculations and topography have been added to drawing C102.
16. Update the plan set to include a Concrete Washout Area and its associated
construction detail.
TGM Response: A concrete washout detail has been added to the drawings.
17. Please revise the plan set to include the following details:
• Sediment Trap or Sediment Basin
TGM Response: See response to comment #15.
• Rock Check Dam
TGM Response: A Rock Check Dam detail has been added.
• Bioretention Filter Forebay and Weir. Please review this with the landscape
plan relative to soils and vegetation requirements that differ between the
forebay and the filter area.
TGM Response: Bioretention filter and forebay to be coordinated with landscape
plans.
• Extended Detention Short Wetland
TGM Response: An enlarged plan of the extended detention ‘shallow’ wetland has
been added to the drawings.
18. Please add the following items to the plan set.
• Include mound septic system on proposed drainage plan C105.
TGM Response: The mound septic system has been added to C105.
• Silt sock detail on Sheet C102 needs to be revised to match the Blue Book.
TGM Response: The silt log detail on C102 has been revised.
• Indicate material staging area on plan. Please note this area must be on
a stabilized surface.
TGM Response: The material staging area will be indicated on the plans.
• Add winter stabilization procedures to the plan set.
TGM Response: Winter stabilization notes will be added to the plans.
• Indicate stream setbacks on all plan sheets. Please verify this setback was
determined in accordance with the Code of the Town of Ithaca and accounts
for any steep slopes that may be present.
TGM Response: The stream setback has been added to all applicable plans where
the viewport and scale allows. Yes, all shown stream setbacks shown are in
accordance with Town of Ithaca standards.
19. Identify the length of the tracking pads.
TGM Response: The length of the tracking pads has been added to drawing C102.
20. Provide erosion and sediment control plan for phasing.
TGM Response: A phased erosion and sediment control plan will be added to the drawings.
21. Contour labels need to be added to the drainage plan in the stormwater practices
where they are not provided on the grading plan. It would be beneficial for the
contours in their entirety to be labeled on the drainage plan.
TGM Response: Contour labels have been added to the extended detention shallow
wetland.
22. There appears to be a difference between the drainage plan and grading plan.
Please review and update accordingly.
TGM Response: Drainage plan and grading plan will be coordinated.
23. The demo plan incorrectly identifies which pipe is being removed at the western pond.
TGM Response: The demo plan has been revised accordingly.
24. Please review the existing catch basins and proposed grading plan. There are
numerous basins around the proposed field that will need adjustments. Please review
these basins and with other site improvements. There appears to be conflicts depicted
in the plan set.
TGM Response: Notes have been added to the drainage plan indicating rim elevation
adjustments to all existing catch basins. All conflicts with site improvements have been
resolved.
25. Please identify how the existing field drains (labeled tile outlet) will be handled.
TGM Response: Existing field drains will be daylighted into the proposed swale. A note has
been added to drawing C105.
26. Update landscaping plans to identify native planting are required as mentioned in
the SWPPP narrative.
TGM Response: The landscaping plans will be revised accordingly.
27. The modeling of existing conditions must align with the post-conditions outlined in
the 2003 SWPPP. This includes accurately representing the field conditions as
pervious in the pre-condition per the 2003 SWPPP and now impervious for the post
condition based on DEC’s current guidance. The ponds shall be modeled according to
their post conditions in 2003 and incorporating any missing stormwater structures
into the model.
TGM Response: Below is a table summarizing the post-development peak discharge rates
for both the 2003 McGovern SWPPP and the current CU GFR SWPPP. For the purposes of a
pre- versus post-development comparison, the rates from 2003 SWPPP shall be
considered as the pre-developed condition per the above Town review comment. As can
be seen, the post-development peak discharge is attenuated for the 1, 10, and 100-yr
storm events by the proposed stormwater management approach. The SWPPP narrative
will be revised to consider the 2003 SWPPP post development runoff rates as the pre-
development rates for the current project.
Storm Event 2003 SWPPP (cfs) CU GFR SWPPP (cfs)
1-yr 12.43+21.82+7.54+7.56 = 49.35 2.08
10-yr 31.16+38.32+20+11.85 = 101.33 30.68
100-yr 33.9+41.9+24.51+11.26 = 111.57 75.09
28. Please provide additional information supporting your design that water will be
conveyed to the attenuation device. Current modeling indicates that the structures are
overtopping.
TGM Response: Regarding diversion structure #1, runoff that may surcharge out of the
structure will be captured by downstream drainage structures. If for any reason those
structures become plugged and are not able to function, then all runoff will be conveyed
to the attenuation device via the overlayed flow path between fields 3 & 4. Regarding
diversion structure #2, the HydroCAD model has been revised so that runoff is no longer
surcharging.
29. There are numerous discrepancies between the plan set and the HydroCad
calculations. Please revise the materials accordingly. The calculations were not
reviewed in detail due to the discrepancies.
TGM Response: The HydroCAD calculations have been revised to address these
discrepancies.
30. Please add the filters to the hydraulic modeling to verify how these systems are acting
during the larger storm events (are they overtopping, do the overflow catch basins
handle everything, etc.).
TGM Response: Both bioretention filters have been added to the HydroCAD model.
31. Diversion Structure 2 appears to be overtopping into the bioretention filter. Provide
calculations for the wetland as described in Chapter 6 section 1 and 2 of the
Stormwater Management Design Manual. Note stormwater wetlands must also meet
the requirements of Stormwater Ponds.
TGM Response: The HydroCAD calculations have been revised and diversion structure #2
no longer surcharges. Calculations have been added to volume 1 of the SWPPP.