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TOWN OF ITHACA
ENGINEERING MEMORANDUM
TO: Public Works Committee:
David Klein, Chairman
John Whitcomb
Edward Conley
Fred Noteboom
Rich Schoch
FROM: Dan Walker, Town Engineer
SUBJECT: Public Works Committee Agenda for 6/23/94
DATE: June 16, 1994
The Public Works. Committee will meet 8: 00 A.M., June 23, 1994 at
the Town Highway Garage.
AGENDA
1. Replacement of Truck #13 .
2. Discuss Leafvac.
3. Engineer' s Report for- West Haven sewer.
4 . Engineer' s Report for Troy and Coddington Road water.
5 . Town Hall status update and consultant selection.
If you are unable to attend this meeting, please notify me as soon
as possible.
xc: Joan Lent Noteboom, Town Clerk
George Frantz, Assistant Town Planner
Andrew Frost, Code Enforcement Officer
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FINAL
Public Works Committee Meeting Minutes
June 23 . 1994
Present: Dan Walker, Rich Schoch, Fred Noteboom, John Whitcomb.
and David Klein (Chairperson)
Guests: Joan Lent Noteboom
Meeting was started at 8: 12 a.m.
REPLACEMENT OF TRUCK 13 : Rich Schoch began the meeting by
discussing the need for a new one ton truck to replace the current
truck number 13 . It was felt that the current truck is costing the
Town more to repair than it would to purchase a new one . John
Whitcomb asked what the resale value of the current truck is, and
Fred Noteboom indicated $8, 500. Rich further indicated that a new
one ton dump truck, on state bid, would costs around $16 ,000. John
asked if a new vehicle would be budgeted for 1995 . Fred indicated
that Parks would like to and a discussion regarding the procedures
for purchasing new equipment went on to say that currently the
Parks Department' s purchases of equipment are sporadic it makes the
line item in the budget go up and down. It was discussed that
equipment purchases within the Highway and Parks Department be
consolidated. It was further discussed that the Highway Department
would like to budget ( for 1995 ) for a new gradeall which has a cost
of approximately $130.000. This will "eat up" most of the 1995
budget, although the Town will be able to sell the old gradeall at
the auction. Joan Noteboom suggested that possibly a 5 year bond
could be used to make such large purchases.
John asked if equipment purchases ( for the upcoming budget) are
brought before the Committee. It was indicated that in the past it
has not. Fred Noteboom suggested that procedure would be
beneficial , and David Klein agreed.
During this discussion John indicated that maybe a 3 to 5 year
budget planning process would be advantageous . John also reminded
us that there is a Capital Reserves account. Fred indicated that
the Highway Department also had an equipment Capital Reserves
account.
David indicated that truck 13 does need to be replaced and that the
Town should look into an equipment plan. Fred said that there is
currently a plan which is being revised.
REPLACEMENT OF LEAF VACS : Fred explained that the current leaf
vacs are in need of engine replacement. He indicated that to
purchase one "long block" would cost $2 , 750 plus the freight and to
purchase a complete engine it would cost $3, 950 plus the freight.
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Fred said it would be best to purchase two new "long block" engines
and sell the old ones at the auction.
David indicated that because of development there will be more and
more yard waste to pick up and that it is a great service to the
residents. Fred said that the Highway Department is open to ideas
and suggestions regarding more efficient yard waste pick up. David
asked if bags of leaves would be easier to pick up. Rich indicated
that it would as long as residents use biodegradable paper bags.
Joan suggested that the Town look into purchasing biodegradable
paper from the state bid and resell them to residents. Fred
informed the Committee that during spring pick up the' Highway
Department will only pick up bagged leaves. David felt that bagged
leaves was better since many residents have problems with ditches,
and Fred indicated that the County was pressuring the Town to not
allow leaves to be raked on to the shoulder of roads for pick up..
It was decided that the Highway Department would look into
purchasing biodegradable paper bags from the State Bid. The
Committee recommends that the Town Board approve the purchase of
the engines for the leaf vacs this year. Fred indicated that the
k monies could come from the Capital Reserves. Fred will discuss
budgeting with Sally Alario, Accounting Manager and place this on
the July agenda.
WEST HAVEN SEWER: Dan Walker opened the discussion regarding the
West Haven Road sewer by handing out an Engineer' s Report (dated
1990) regarding this project. Dan also indicated that he needed to
discuss with the Town Attorney the legal layout of the map. David
asked if the area in question is east of West Haven Road, and Dan
indicated that sewer would be extended to the Mecklenburg Road on
West Haven Road. John asked if the City was adverse to this
project due to the Hector Street sewer. Dan indicated that this
project will not affect the City of Ithaca on the South side of
Mecklenburg road. It would, however, if the Town decided to extend
the water main across the State highway (Mecklenburg Road) . It
would cost an additional $40,000 just to cross the State highway.
The Committee felt it was premature to cross the State highway at
this time, as future developers would be asked to contribute.
Joan remarked that on the Town Board Minutes from May the residents
of West Haven Road would like to have a meeting to discuss the
final design. Dan indicated that this will happen and letters have
been sent indicating this. Joan also mentioned that in order to
receive the benefits of taxes, the project must be completed before
the tax cut off date. Dan indicated that if the services are
provided for six months, then the property will be assessed as
such.
David said that pending Town Board approval, the Engineering
Department should be ready to draw up the design and bid it out so
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that the project can be started in the fall. John asked if the
project met the requirements for the already scheduled Public
Hearing meeting. Dan indicated that will be next week.
CODDINGTON ROAD/TROY ROAD WATER: Dan indicated that there are
several questions that need to be answered, and that David, Ellen
Harrison, and Dan will be getting together to discuss them. The
major problem is that the Community Center on Coddington Road does
not have enough water to service Center users. The impact on
putting the Town' s money into the Community Center was discussed.
Dan asked if the Town owned the Center, and Joan indicated that the
Town did not—only contributed to it. David asked if the Town
needed any more parks and Rich indicated that the ball fields are
used a lot and maintained by the Town. It was then discussed that
maybe the Town could benefit from purchasing the Community Center.
It was decided to look into the subject further regarding who owns
it, etc.
It was also discussed that the residents beyond the Community
Center were not particularly interested in extending the water and
sewer to them. It was also discussed that there is a section of •
I land near the present project site which has already been approved
by the Town Board for water and sewer. John asked what the water
extension will cost, and Dan said around $123,000. John suggested
that the Town run the water, then rezone the area, and later put in
sewer.
Dan indicated that the Troy Road water project is similar to the
Coddington Road water project, although there needs to be an
easement in place to bring water down to several parcels. The
total cost of this project is approximately $130,000. Dan
indicated that no major development can be cultivated in this area.
David reminded the Committee that the Town Board does not have to
make a decision on the West Haven Road, Coddington Road, and Troy
Road projects slated for the Public Hearings, at the Hearings.
TOWN HALL STATUS: Dan said that phase I of this project could be
started as early as next week. David felt that we should go ahead
and do a scope of services for the project. The first thing that
needs to be completed is a space needs study. John indicated that
if the Post Office was only willing to lease the building for say
20 years, it would not likely be beneficial for the Town. The Town
need to decide how many studies it wishes to undertake ( ie: post
office, OB-GYN, new facility) .
Joan indicated that if the Town was interested in renting space to
other government entities for records retention, there is a grant
that can provide monies for renovating space, and the Town would
profit from rental income.
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FOREST HOME DRIVE BRIDGE: Dan explained that Fred and he will be
meeting with the County to discuss the design for the Forest Home
Drive bridge since the State has given the go ahead to this
project. John reminded the Committee that the Town needed to meet
with the Forest Home Drive Association regarding rebuilding Judd
Falls Road so that the Town can budget for the work in 1995.
Dan also told the Committee that the fill behind one of the
abutment of the Forest Home Drive bridge was washing out. It has
been fixed temporarily.
Meeting was adjourned at 9 : 35 a.m.
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