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Town of Ithaca Public Works Committee Meeting
October 23, 1997, 8:00 a.m.
Town of Ithaca Highway Facility
1. Approval of September 25, 1997 Minutes.
2. Discussion on New Truck for Highway.
3. Discussion on Caldwell Road.
4. Follow up on Winner Circle Trail.
5. Update on Storm Water Management.
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pc: Mary Bryant, Administrative Secretary
Joan Lent Noteboom, Town Clef
Andrew Frost, Director of'ZoningBuilding
Jonathan Kanter, Director of Planning
DISPOSITION DATE
FINAL
TOWN OF ITHACA
Public Works Committee Minutes
October 23, 1997
Present: David Klein, Chairperson; Ed Conley; Fred Noteboom; Dan Walker; and Rich
Schoch
Guests:Gene Redman
The meeting began at 8:00 a.m.
Discussion of New Truck
Fred Noteboom explained that John Barney sent a letter to Stadium International to cancel the
order (for a Plow Truck) based on the bid process done in spring this year. This was canceled
due to the failure to meet the delivery date specified.
Gene Redman indicated that a new truck has been ordered and is already on the dealer's lot.
There was a discussion of what was sent to the Auction this year and what replaced them.
Discussion of Caldwell Road
Dan Walker explained that he wants a full one foot topographic and that there is about a day's
worth of surveying to do.
Fred indicated that most of the construction would be done on the hill part but there has been
discussion of putting turning lanes near Cornell University's parking lots. Pavement would
extend from the upstream bridge to Route 366.
There was a discussion of the grade of the hill. It appears to be between 14 and 17 percent
grade, and the recommended grade is around 10 percent. Fred indicated that the angle may help
change the slope.
Dan indicated that he would have a "concept" ready for the November 3, 1997, Town of
Ithaca/Cornell University Transportation Committee meeting.
There was a discussion of closing the road (which would definitely need to be done), Tompkins
County's planned work on the upstream bridge, Cornell University's upcoming projects, and
seeing if Cornell University will contribute to the re-construction of Caldwell Road. Fred
indicated that Cornell University is planning to work on their parking lots in 1998, and we may
want to wait to re-pave the top portion until then.
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David Klein expressed his concern about closing the road and working "in-house," indicating
that some times other things come up and in-house crews have to do emergency or drainage
improvement projects. Fred agreed, although was equally concerned about using all the
Permanent Improvement money on"bidding"projects.
There was a discussion of sub-contracting certain aspects of the project, such as paving. Then
we are not at the mercy of Tompkins County (who does not have a good schedule and does not
necessarily do a good job).
Fred indicated that if plans to reconstruct Caldwell Road were not finalized in time for
construction next spring, he is considering working Honness Lane. David asked if there would
be any impact on the walkway there. Fred said that is why we have held off doing anything
there.
Discussion on Winner's Circle Trail Relocation
David asked if this project was done yet. Rich Schoch said no,that we were waiting for the bull
dozer to be free,but that it will be done before leaf collection. He contacted the property owners
and bought them up-to-date on project status.
Discussion on Storm Water Management
Dan said that his department is still processing the data. He indicated that Eric Whitney is
working on this and there are approximately 10,000 data points to process. Dan said that some
of the problem areas are the drainage ditches, behind Christopher Circle, and Brandywine Drive.
He felt that we needed to address extending the pipe across Winthrop Drive (from Brandywine
Drive) to flow from the retention pond, and we need to get easements to do some work on
Christopher Circle(creek is eroding banks).
Dan indicated that the.Town needs to get together with the Village of Cayuga to discuss water
flow problems "down further."
David asked what the next step is. Dan said he will be completing a report,which will include a
complete size capacity for drainage pipes.
Fred asked what would be recommended to work on in 1998. Dan indicated that extending the
pipe across Winthrop to the pond. Fred indicated that the residents on Christopher Circle have
problems because the basement footer drains are too shallow.
David asked about the Ruoff s residence. Dan indicated that there is a capacity problem in the
stream, so the channel needs to be deeper.
Again, there was a discussion of the BOCES property. There have been problems there since a
retention area was removed to develop the new buildings. Cathy Valentino will be discussing
the Town's problems with BOCES.
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Dan expressed his concerns about more development in the Northeast area. He has heard about
Cornell University wanting to put in housing.
David asked Dan for a time schedule. Dan said that a preliminary report on drainage will be
available next month, with costs. At that time, we will ask .the Board to set priorities. Dan
would like to set up a follow up meeting in December(with residents)to discuss the findings.
Discussion on Speed Limit Request
Fred indicated that Cathy asked the Committee to review a request for reduction in speed on
Route 79 (Mecklenburg Road) from the Ithaca City line to West Haven Road. Dan expressed
some concerns on that section of road. He will write a memo to Cathy on this. This request will
be sent to the Town Board for action and forward to Tompkins County.
There was a discussion of establishing a Town-wide speed limit of 45. David felt that it would
work for roads, other than State Routes. Ed Conley feels this is a worthwhile discussion,
indicating that the residents would like it.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:10 a.m.
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