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PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE
February 26, 2002, 8:00 a.m.
Highway Facility
1. Minutes David
2. Update on Highway Facility Fred
3. Discussion on Lighting Trails and Walkways Rich/Fred
5. Discussion on Official Name for PEW Trail Fred
6. Discussion on Winter Maintenance of the PEW Trail Rich/Fred
7. Discussion on the Maintenance for the Post Office Area at
Town Hall Location Fred
8. Discussion on West Hill Water Dan
9. Discussion on West Hill Sewer Dan
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Tee-Ann Hunter,Town Clerk
Andrew Frost, Director of Zoning/Building
Jonathan Kanter, Director of Planning
F I N Al DISPOSITION DATE
441 TOWN OF ITHACA
Public Works Committee
Highway Facility, February 26, 2002
Present: David Klein, Chair; Cathy Valentino; Tom Niederkorn; Dan Walker; Fred Noteboom;
and Rich Schoch
Guests: David Lorenzini, Mike Smith, and Sue Ritter
The meeting began at 8:10 a.m.
The minutes that need to be approved from 2001 will be on the next meetings agenda.
Public Works Facility
Fred Noteboom informed the Committee that they had meeting with Hascup and Lorenzini and
Delta Engineers. They have added the sprinkler system to the proposal.
David Lorenzini provided a worksheet with the estimated cost on it. Overall, with the contingency,
the cost is 1.8 million.
There was some concern among the Committee members that the cost was higher than we would like
to see it. There were several discussions on ways to reduce this estimate. Some of the suggestions
include: Take some items out of the bid, taking off the wash bay, and the radiant heating on the floor
in the mechanic's bay. The Committee discussed the "fin tube" heating and that it would be
advantageous and can save money in the long run. This would also not take a large amount of
money off of the total estimate. The Committee also discussed the crane that has been proposed for
the mechanic's shop. At this point, it is a 5-ton crane. If it were under a 2-ton crane it would lower
the cost. We will look into this further. The Committee discussed the overall height of the building
and that the proposed height is the lowest it can go and still accommodate the trucks to work on. The
Committee discussed the type of building proposed—it is not a pre-engineered building. We may
want to look into this to see if there are cheaper ways to construct by building. Another discussion
was the size of the offices. This would not necessarily reduce the cost by a large amount of money
though. The siding was also discussed as an option to cut costs.
The Committee asked David Lorenzini to get a list of cuts to reduce the price. They asked him to
quantify them and give the costs.
There was a discussion on space needs in the heated storage area. There is no room to take any space
off of here as we still will not have all the vehicles (that need to be in heated storage) in that area.
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Public Works Committee Minutes,February 26,2002 Page 2
The Committee went on to discuss the time schedule. Hascup and Lorenzini will be meeting with
Delta Engineers on Thursday March 7, 2002. We intend to have a design with budget figures for the
March 11,2002 meeting.
The Committee discussed the issue of bonding the project. Cathy would like to see it between 1.5 and
1.8 million. Cathy and Fred will discuss this will Al Carvil,Budget Officer.
Fred said that the Highway Depai fluent would be conducting public meetings soon on the
construction projects that will be worked on in 2002. He said that we could discuss the building at
that time too.
There was a concern from the Planning Board as to who should be the lead agency and that there was
not enough screening on the west side. They did pass a resolution, though,naming the Town Board
as lead agency. We will be going to the April meeting of the Planning Board to answer other
questions/concerns the Board had.
Lighting Town Trails and Walkway
Fred said that the issue of lighting town walkways and trails has been brought to our attention.
There will be lighting on the walkway that will be built in conjunction the Route 366 construction.
New York State DOT will not fund the lighting for the trail. The Town will want to meet with
Cornell University on this.
Fred said that he has received information from the MPO in which it says that each walkway/trail
should be considered for lighting on a case-by-case basis.
The Committee feels that the Town may want to set criteria for lighting walkways/trails. This will
entail deciding if a walkway/trails is for recreational or transportation use. The Committee feels that
we should first look at the walkways/trails that are for transportation use. The Town's Park Use law
will have to be reviewed also. Currently the parks and trails are closed a half-hour after sundown.
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Fred said that lighting walkways/trails could be very costly.
The Highway Department has been asked to provide a map indicating which walkways/trails
should be considered recreational or transportation use trails. They will bring this to the next
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Official Name of Trail .
At present,we continue to use the name William and Hannah Pew for the trail between Pine Tree
Road and Holiness Lane.
Public Works Committee Minutes,February 26,2002 Page 3
The Committee decided that we should talk to the people who gave us the land to get there input as
to the name of the trail.
The Committee also said that we need to set criteria for naming parks, trails, etc.
Winter Maintenance of the Above Trail
The Highway Department will be maintaining this trail after it is built.
Outside Maintenance of the Post Office area at Town Hall
Fred brought this issue to the Committee because the Safety Committee reviewed an incident report
involving a person who fell outside the Post Office.
The ground has settled and there is a"lip" that people are tripping over, etc. The Town may want to
take the asphalt out and put in concrete. This is our responsibility although the Post Office would be
responsible for 20 percent of the maintenance cost.
The Committee will meet at the Post Office site on 8:15 on Wednesday,February 27 to review this.
West Hill Water Project
Dan Walker said that the project would cost around $350,000 for a 25,000-gallon tank. They are still
reviewing the different sites available for this, and think that the best place would be at the Eco-
Village emergency access entrance. The other places either have no access to it or are too open.
The tank would be between 35 and 40 feet tall and would support the current tank on west hill. This
tank will look like the tank on Troy Road.
The other part of that project would be to replace the water line behind the hospital. The current one
is very old (built around 1932) and is cast iron. We would be replacing about 2,000 feet of this water
line.
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This project has been slated for 2002 and estimates the cost at$215,000. The Town will have to talk to.
the new owners of the Biggs Building to assess their needs and possibly get some funding for this
project. There are several other owners who need to be informed of this project.
Dan talked about looping it Jo the current system and he will look into the costs, etc.
Public Works Committee Minutes,February 26,2002 Page 4
West Hill Sewer Project
We will be replacing the current line with a 12" PVC (Plastic pipe) from Candlewyck Park
Apartments to the hospital. This will be put in adjacent to the one already there. We would abandon
the current line. The right-of-way is already cleared out because we mow this each year.
Again,we discussed the option of going down to 89. We will not be pursuing this any farther—too
costly.
Dan informed the Committee that Mr. Grippi has requested that sewer be put in to his property. This
would add about 2,000 feet to the current line and would service them and the Kyong property. This
would cost about$100,000 to do.
Together the two projects (starting at Candlewyck Apartments and continuing the sewer up 96 to
Hayts Road)would be around$600,000.
Dan will be presenting the above projects to the Planning Board. The Committee feels that the Public
Works Committee should be the ones to recommend the above projects to the Town Board. The
Committee would like more information about going past the hospital with the sewer line before this
is done.
There was a discussion regarding the Indian Creek Development.. The water would most likely be
tied in at 96 and go the other way (towards Dubois Road).
The meeting was adjourned at 9:50 a.m.
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