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PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT
106 SEVEN MILE DRIVE, ITHACA, N.Y. 14850
publimorks @town. ithaca. ny.us
PHONE (607) 273-1656 Roads, Parks, Trafls, Sewor, and Water
TOWN OF 1'11 IACA
PUBLIC WORKS COMMH'TEE
Tuesday, A ugust 23, 2005, 8:00 a.m.
Public, Works Facility
I Approval of Mirtutes
a. July 26,2005 Minutes
2. Feedback on Draft Salt Management Plan
3. Update on Storm Water Managemerit Plan
4. DiSCLIssion on Capital Plan for Water Systern Improvements
5. Update 011 TL11010 ["ark and William atid I'lannah Pew "I"rail.
6. DiSCUSSiOrl on Draft Rights -of -Way Policy
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Public Works Corrunittee
August 31, 2005, Minutes
Public Works Facility, 8:00 a.m.
["resent: Cathy Valentino, Fred Noteboom, Rich Schoch, Gen(-'! Recirrian, Wayne
Sincebaugh, Sandy GitteIrnart, Dan Walker, and Peter Stein
J'he meeting began at 8:07 am.
Cathy Valentino said that Peter Stein's new work schedule is Monday through
Thursday, 10:00 a.m. to 1:30 p.m. She WOUld like to move the meeting dates to the
fourth Friday of the raonth fear the rest of the year. They will continue to start at 8:00
a.m.
The July 26,2005, minutes where approved although, it was noted that an, addition
needs to be made regarding Peter's opposition to limiting the time for residents to put
out brush for the "Pawn's serni-annual brush pickup. NOTE: 'rhis was done and filed
with the "Town Clerk.
"The Committee again talked abOLIt the arnount of time before as brush. pickup resident's
should be allowed to) PUt Out brush. It was decided that three weeks would be
sufficient,
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Fred Noteboom indicated that Mike Smith, the'l7own's 1',mvirortniental Plann(�.,r,
reviewed the document and suggested there should really be two separate documents.
One part of the document shouldbe included in the Storm Water Management Plan
and the other should be included in the Public Works E)epartment's operations policy.
We will continue to work on this and report back to the Comniittee at as later date.
Storm Water Mana4t,!en t C,i , al PE( f I
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Dan. Walker said that the project on Slaterville Road (at the Ewing's) has beef)
completed. Ile is now looking at the project ori Lexington Drive to work on next. 'rhe
surveying has been completed and as design plan will now be worked on. Dan said.
approximately 600 to 800 feet of the ditch needs to be cleaned out. We WOUld use the
Public Works Department staff to do this project, 'The 'Mown needs to talk to the Village
of CayUga Heights to get perrnission to clean Out their section of this project. We also
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need to talk to the Village of Lansing, as some of the work would be done in their
jurisdiction.
Dan said that Ile has devised as plan to work oil storni water rnanagement on Salem
Drive. We need to coordinate this project with 'I"'ornpkins C"'ounty, as they will be
working on Hanshaw Road and. their plans calls for the water to go across the road.
The Committee discussed thatTompkins County has called as public nieetitig to diSCUSS
the COuStlUCtiOn project on Hanshaw Road. That tweeting has been postponed. We are
concerned that the C,'ounty will not give erloLigh notice when they schedlile the next
uleeting.
The Committee discussed their concern. regarding the sidewalks that are in the design
for fianshaw Road, There is a question. as to who will niaintain thein—the �resident or
the'fown, This will be discussed at the Septernber 12, 2005, Board Meeting.
They Committee lnernbers also expressed concern over the plan,, which callsfor the road
to be wide in the'"I"own then go into as narrow road at the Village of Cayugal7leights
line,
Sandy Gittelman asked about storm water t'nanagenient ponds aii(I that sometirnes they
have standing water in thern, citing disease control iSSUes. Dan said that some storni.
water managernent ponds are designed to hold thre(, to four feet of water and others are
designed for drainage and will empty Out-, ill as couple of weeks. If there are three or
four feet of water, it will not attract mosquitoes and the drainage ponds are not holding
water long enough. The pond oil Ellis I follow Road was designed to create wetlands
there.
Dan said that-, as Storin Water Managernent GrOUP has been fornled, '"I'l-ley are working,
oil the MS4 and sharing information to develop the rriandated storyn water managernent
plan and edLication. This group hasapplied for as grant to help offset costs for training,
etc. This g ,,r(,)LIP is also discussing (, harging dues, This would also help offset the costs
of training and education, etc. Cathy said to inake sure there is as contract to sign if dues
are going to be charge(:1. This topic will be discLissed at thc , next Town Board Meeting.
This gromp will also work with others to niake sure we are not dUplicating efforts,
Dan said that eve had as problCrIl With Our MS-1 application as it asked if the'Town
would have the resources to implement the Plan by 2008. BecaUSC we do not know the
costs associated with this, we have not been able to budget for it. We will have to
continue to look into this.
The Committee discussed that we have created a new category in the Gleneral Fund for
storm water managernetit, It will be A8540. "I"here will be a line iteri'l for Personal (.1,00)
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and Contractual (.400). We will put $40,000 in the Contractual line item. We will take
some money from the D135110.100 and 13135112.100 line items to furnish the Personal
(.100) line item.
There was a brief discussion regarding what the Village ,of -Cayuga Heights was doing
regarding storm water management. Basically, villages can decide if they want to
participate, and if they don't, the Town would be required to provide storm water
management.
Capital Plan —Water Improvements
Dan said that he has been reviewing the current plan as some projects on the plan have
been completed. He also said that we are going to be draining down the Trumansburg
Road water tank and inspecting it. This tank needs to be repaired or replaced. We
should have reports on the tank by the end of September. There was a discussion
regarding the County asking the Town to purchase the land that the water tank is on.
According to Dan, the County agreed to give the land to the town, but the County still
owns the land —the Town's Attorney is working on the deed.
Dan said that the Town needs to replace the water line, on Hanshaw Road but would
like to do it when the road is done —hopefully in 2006.
Both of these projects would have to be bonded. Cathy said that we will be asking the
Town Board to increase the water benefit assessment, but there will be a drop in the
sewer benefit assessment, so for most people they would offset each other. Some
people only have water and some only have sewer. The people with only water will
have an increase, and, of course, the people with only sewer will have a decrease.
Dan said that other projects to look at would be replacing the water line on Route 964t
is a 6" line but is 80 years old. Another project would be the water main on Danby
Road. This will be a capital project and we have slated it to be worked on in 2008.
We will be starting (this year) to replace the tank on Hungerford Hill. The site work can
be done in the fall but the tank will have to be done in'the spring.
Update on Tutelo Park and William and Hannah Pew Trail
Tutelo Park: We have begun putting the roof on the comfort station. Before we can do
much else at the comfort station, we have to have the sewer fixed —we are waiting on
the contractor to come back to fix it. We are hopeful for a grand opening in May 2006.
The grant that was applied for (for the pavilion) was not -received. We will proceed
with the originally designed pavilion for the park.
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Pew Trail: The gravel base has been laid up to Park Lane. Rip Rap has also been
installed at Park Lane. We will not be doing much more this year on the trail —just
some grass seeding, etc. There was a discussion regarding putting in the Shirley
Raffensburger pavilion and that it needs to be done in 2006. Donations of $4,000 have
been made. The Town will contribute $1,000.
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The Committee received a copy of a draft policy regarding the Town"s rights -of -way
(ROW). There is more work to be done on this policy. Numbers I and 2 on this policy
are from the current culvert pipe policy —if changes need to be made to them, we will
have to change the culvert pipe policy also. There was some confusion as to the Town
maintaining the ditches but the homeowners were responsible for keeping the ditches
cleaned of debris and trash.
This policy needs to be clear that if residents install plantings in the ROW, the Town
will not be responsible for them. We should also make it clear we do not want any
plantings, except grass, in the ROW.
There was a discussion regarding that easements should have the same policy as the
ROWs. We will rewrite this policy to incorporate the above discussion.
Fred informed the Committee that the resident on W. King Road, who wanted a ditch
dug, now says it is too deep. Fred suggested that it be piped, but the resident does not
want to pay for it.
. Miscellaneous
The Committee discussed the possible Adopt-a-Park/Adopt-a-Road project. There are
questions of liability that need to be looked at before going any further on this topic.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:23 a.m.
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