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TOWN OF ITHACA
PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE
'Fuesday, May 23,2006, 9:00 a.m.
Public Works Facility
Approval of Minutes
a. February 28,2006 Minutes
Hanshaw Road and Coddington Road Construction Updates
Discussion on Finger Lakes Kennel Club's Proposed Donation.
Discussion on No Parking Signs at T-CAT Bus Stops.
Updates on Public Works Projects.
Discussion on Interrounicipal, Sharing Agreements.
Discussion on Town Board Authorization for Highway Superintendent
to Enter Upon Lands.
Update on Adopt -a -Park program.
D66 OSMON (WE
TOWN OF ITHACA
Public Works Committee
May 23,2006,9:00 a.m.
Public Works Facility
present: Cathy Valentino, l"eter Stein, Sandy C;ittelnian, Dan, Walker, Fred
Noteboom, Rich Schoch, Gene Redman, Wayne Sincebaug ,ft
Guest: Jonathan Kanter and John I-alTipman
The meeting began. at 9:04 a.m.
J'he February 28, 2006, minutes vvere approved.
No Parking at'17-CA'"I"Bus Sato 12s
1, he'Town has received complaints front residents on East Hill regarding cars
parking at bus stops and leaving there, there all day.
Fred Noteboorn showed the Committee members a map of the official bus steps
in the'Fown, There are only four stops case own roads. "rhree stops are on
Snyd,,,kr Bill Road and one is on Winston COUrt. Snyder Hill Road already has
"No Parking" on that road.. Fred did point out that people could flag down a bus
any where along the bus routes.
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lathy Valentino said that the place the parking is happening is oil. Era tens
He^ights Drive at the corner of Joanne Drive. She suggested that the "Fown could
restrict the aMOUnt of tirne cars can be parked on the shoulder of the road — 2-
hour parking. This Would have to be done on a case -by -case basis, as we do not
know where people are parking to get a bus and leaving their car there all day. It
was Suggested that we put some thing on the web site to euCOUrage people to let
the'rown know where people are parking to get the bus to work, etc.
Jonathan Kanter suggested looking into a park and ricle lot. He also said that
111'CTC has identified a place for a park and ride lot on Route 79 at the Church.
Cathy said she has noticed cars parkirig on Maple Avenue.
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Finger, Lakes Kennel-D.onation
Rich Skchoch said that the Finger ]_,akes Kennel Club WOLI]d like to.) donate LIP tO
two dog waste StatiOl'IS, They we PUrchase units called Dogipot Pet Stations
and biodegradable bags, The'Town Nvould have to rnaintain the station and
continue future Purchases of the bags.
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One of the places the Club has suggested is at the Game Farm Road entrance to
the East Ithaca Recreation Way. Rich suggested hutting the other one at the
Eastern Heights Park.
Currently, we have a sirnilar station on the South Hill Recreati oell Way and we
are going thrOUgh about 150 bags as week,
The Corrurtittee said this would be as good iclea. Rich will follow tip on flais.
Update on Construction,_ELLr`ect
Fred said that Max's Drive, Longview Road, arid. Briarwood 1)rive have been
surfaco,= treated already this year. We will continue work on the Pew '["rail and be
putting in the gazebo near the trail. Rich asked if there was going to be as plaque
on the gazebo. Cathy said yes. C athy will work on the wording., and thell Rich
will get the I,)Iaque. A dedication day still needs to be worke�d out.
TheTrurnansburg Road 'Tank is ready to t)e painted. All the necessary
docurnents ha\/e been signed to work on it.
1"eter Stein asked about the project on Christopher Lane, I le wondered why the
underground drainage was installed. Fred explained that the shoulders have
laden eroding mvay. The drainage that existed went into as (try well that Was
deteriorating and needed replacing.
Some projects that will be funded in 2007 include the painting of the l4ungerford
Hill WaterTank and flanshaw Road water line replacernent. It was SUggested
that the water line on Truinansburg Road be replaced this year — 2006 moved LIP
from 2007, as this is the oldest water line in the 'Fown — dating back to the 1930s.
Update on Hanshaw Road and Coddington Road Construction Proiects
John Laniprnari, Tompkins 1-fighway Division, carne to the meeting to
discuss the County's constrUCtiOrl Projects on I-11anshaw Road and Coddingtori,
Road.
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Hanshaw Road: There was a meeting with the consultants, New York State
Department of Transportation (NYSDOT), Fred Noteboom, and John Lampman.
Dooley Keifer was also present. After that meeting, they met with the Village of
Cayuga Heights' mayor and engineer.
After that meeting, DOT submitted (to the County) their questions and concerns
regarding the design of this project. There were about two pages of concerns.
One of the biggest concerns was the width of the road. The state feels the driving
lanes should be bigger. The design currently calls for the building of the road to
be 11-foot wide, but striping 10 feet for the driving lanes with 4-foot shoulders.
The County could re -stripe the road on the inside of the 11-foot line. This design
would move the driving. lanes about 6" closer to the sidewalk.
The Village of Cayuga Heights had some economic concerns and asked if their
part of the project could be in -kind services. This would not be possible. There
was a suggestion and some informal talks about the Town helping fund the
sidewalk going into the Village. Cathy feels that this would benefit the Town
and that the residents of the Village pay Town taxes, so the Town Board should
entertain this idea.
Fred said that he would like to make sure that permanent easements were in
place before the, construction started. Although the -sidewalk would be totally in
the right-of-way, there are parts of the sidewalk that would leave very little room
(on the homeowners side) for maintenance.
Dan Walker asked if there was a design for the sidewalk going from the town
line into Cayuga Heights. John said there is a preliminary one but the surveying
has not been done yet. DOT did say that this could be added to the project. He
also said that the TIPS project has been amended to add approximately $400,000
for the sidewalk. John also said that the State would not contribute the 15
percent state share of the $400,'000. This would mean that the local share would
be $80,000.
Dan asked what the time line for this project is so that he can coordinate the
Town's water line replacement project. John said they would like to have the
public meeting in June, have the final design to the State in July, do acquisitions
in the next few months, go out to bid sometime in November or December, and
start construction in the spring 2007.
Dan said that the water line project plans have been approved by the Health
Department and the money is already budgeted for, so we would be able to start
construction as early as March 2007. Dan will keep in touch with John as to
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when they are going to bid the construction project, so we can bid the water line
project at the same time.
Coddington Road: John said that New York State had more concerns and
comments on this project-5 pages.
Because of the costs constraints, the final design draft was broken down into
small pieces. The more important parts of the project are between the City of
Ithaca line and Juniper Drive, and at the Burns Road/E. King Road intersection.
There would be money left over after these parts of the project are done, so the
County is trying to decide which part of the road to use it on. They are not sure
if they want to use the money on the section of road between Juniper Drive and
Troy Road or from Burns Road to the Coddington Road Community
Center/Updike Road area. There are site distance issues on the latter.
The time line for this project is: Get all the comments to the consultant in May,
so that they can get it back to the State in June. They would like to have a public
meeting in June before the schools are closed for the summer. We felt that the
public should have at least two weeks notice before the public meeting.
John said that the design calls for a sidewalk from Juniper Drive to the City of
Ithaca line and on street parking. The storm sewer on the west side would be
moved so the center line of the road could be shifted west— parking would be on
the east side of the road.
TIPS: Fred said that the TIPS schedule is due on June 1, 2006. It was suggested
that the (upstream) bridge on Forest Home Drive be submitted with the County's
project. (The Town can't apply because Forest Home Drive is not part of the
Federal Highway System.) TIPS funding is federal funding, which pays 80
percent of the project costs. The State does not contribute.
The Committee discussed if this TIPS application should incorporate the traffic
calming issues or not. John said that TIPS would not fund traffic calming type
projects. Also, there is no plan for the traffic calming/street scaping and the
deadline for TIPS is June 1. This project would be a good project due to the
historical aspects of the area.
John asked that the Town send the Courity a letter of support so that he can put it
with the application. This Committee can approve a letter of support, but we
will include it and the application in the June Town Board meeting packet, so a
resolution of support can also be done.
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IntermuniciRal Sharing of Services
Fred said that he has received a copy of an Intermunicipal Sharing agreement
drafted by the Town of Dryden's attorney. It is very long (12 Pages). The Towns
of Ulysses, Enfield, and Ithaca sat down and worked on a shorter agreement.
Fred feels if there is a lot of paper work involved in the agreements, then smaller
departments will decide not to use the agreement.
The Town did pass a resolution that authorizes the Highway Superintendent to
participate in sharing of services for the interim.
As Fred gets more information, he will pass it along to the Committee members.
Town Board Authorization of Highway Superintendent to Enter Upon Lands
State law says that the Town Board has to approve the entering of private lands
to clean streams, etc. Susan Brock is working on this.
Cathy said that she is working on the right-of-way policy as to what can be put
in the right-of-way and what we will replace, etc.
This is being worked on and should be ready for the next meeting.
Peter asked about the Adopt -a -Road policy. Cathy said that it was on hold until
we get the Adopt -a -Park policy finalized. There will be more language needed
for the Adopt -a -Road policy. Peter would like to move ahead with this. Fred
will get more information on Adopt -a -Road policy for the next meeting. Both the
State and County have programs, and we believe that the Town of Dryden does
too.
Miscellaneous
Cathy said that Will Burbank, Town Board Member, would like to see the signs
in the parks more user friendly. He feels the Posted signs that are currently there
should be replaced with something more friendly. Something such as Welcome
to the Parks, then say what should not be done in the parks, such as no hunting.
The question was raised if by law it has to say the property is posted. We will
ask Susan Brock to look into this before going any further on this project.
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The Committee members felt that the Posted signs get people attention and has a
stronger message.
Cathy received a letter from the New York State Parks regarding parking on
Sand Bank Road. We have received this type of request before. They would like
the Town to restrict parking on Sand Bank Road by the ball fields. When the
fields are in use, there are cars parked on both side of the road. They need a
bigger parking area. They also charge to get in that parking area, so some people
may be using the street so they do not have to pay. Fred will talk to the State on
this.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:30 a.m.