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Public Works Committee
July 27,2010
Present: Rich DePaolo,Chair; Bill Goodman;Susan Riha;Jim Weber; and Mike
Smith
The meeting began at 11.15 a.m.
The minutes were approved with a few changes.
Public Comments
None
Summer Hill Walkway
The Committee discussed the crosswalk and if it should be at the intersection. The
crosswalk is lighted but is not at the intersection. The lighting at intersections is there to
make it safer for pedestrians. Jim Weber said that pedestrians would be better seen at
night with lighting.
Susan Riha was not sure if lights were need on the walkway.
The Committee talk about the fact that the walkway really only serves one complex
(Summer Hill Apartments). Summer Hill Lane is a dead end road. The Committee
discussed the fact that people using the motel are going through the East Hill Plaza
parking lot.
The Committee discussed that on the east side of the walkway there is no lighting,but
on the west side there is some because of the East Hill Plaza lights.
Jim explained that Summer Hill Lane intersects with Ellis Hollow Road as a "T". The
trail is about 50' from the T. There really is not much that the Town can do. Rich
DePaolo said that the Town would work with anyone who would put in lights as long
as they pay for it.
Jim said that he has talked to the manager for Conifer—they are the company
responsible for the plowing of the Plaza parking lot and walkway. Jim said that he
would put together a letter letting them know the Town would work with them,but we
would not pay for any lighting on the walkway. Their letter to us indicates they would
like to work something out. Jim said that he will follow up on this.
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e Committee was in agreement that lighting should be at the intersection. The cost to
put lighting in is around $2,500.
The Committee discussed that the Town only has an easement for the walkway and
they believe it is with the dentist there.
Jim said that he would send a letter to Cornell Federal Credit Union regarding the fence
and bushes.
Video Equipment for Tutelo Park
Jim explained that there has been extensive damage due to vandalism at the Tutelo Park
pavilion and dugouts. The drinking fountain was ripped off the wall, along with a
light. There was significant spray painting on the pavilion floor and tables and inside
and out of the dugouts. Some of the graffiti was threatening.
Jim said that we were able to get some information,with the help of the City of Ithaca
Bus Garage video, to apprehend some vandals.
Rich Schoch and Joe Hulbert have looked into purchasing video surveillance cameras.
It would be about$3,000. Jim said that we have browed the video camera from Town
Hall and put it up in the pavilion. This takes a picture every 20 seconds. It is a little far
from the ball field,but can still see some,so people may not be totally identifiable,but it
is useable.
Rich D. wondered if this is more of a problem in the summer. He suggested putting
signage up to make vandals think that we are using cameras.
Jim said that we are working on getting a sealer, and the hold up is due to the pre-cast
panel on the dug outs. They are hard to clean up because of the pebbles. If we can't get
the paint off,we will have to repaint the dug outs.
Road Preservation Law
Jim said that he looked at the gas drilling leases that are in the Town of Ithaca. He
handed out a list of roads that he felt would be impacted. There is only about 15 miles
of Town road that would be affected.
Susan said that most gas drilling companies are streamlining there operations. They
move the gather lines first,and then move the water up. This is making so that roads
are not being used as much. She also felt that there is not much interest in the Ithaca
area.
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There was a discussion regarding culvert pipes for makeshift roads and that those pipes
could cause flooded roads due to water flow volumes.
Jim reminded the Committee that the roads are not only subject to large volumes due to
gas drilling,but also large development.
Rich D. asked what the value of going with Delta is as opposed to having staff do the
work. Susan said she felt that Delta would be able to write up the law. It was discussed
that the law would not necessarily take long to write as there are other laws that we can
work from. Susan wondered which way we would save money. Rich said an
advantage to having Susan Brock or Guy Krough write the law is that they know the
Town better than say Delta.
It was discussed that Guy had prepared the presentation to the Town Board. It was
pointed out that Susan Brock has not spent a lot of time on this. Either way,the Town's
Attorney will have to review it.
Jim pointed out that the Town of Ithaca is not like small Towns. We have planners,
engineers, etc. He also said that the Town has good communication with departments
within Tompkins County, so we would be aware of any "haul around" that might
happen.
Rich asked how the Town would do the survey if Delta didn't. Jim said yes,if it was
needed. Jim said that we have a maintenance schedule and work with the developers
closely. Rich wondered if Delta did the survey,what would happen if we want to
resurface them. Jim said that the typical life cycle of a road is 25 years. That is why we
surface treat them—to preserve them.
Rich wondered if we could measure the impact on roads if we repaved roads or if we
surface treated them. Jim said that if we resurface roads, the costs would be higher but
there would be nothing to fix. Rich asked if it would be 10 percent of the cost, and Jim
said more like 5 percent.
Susan does not feel we need Delta to do a study because of the Town's resources. Jim
questioned if Delta would have the resources to defend the Town regarding any legal
issues that might come up and the Town would.
Jim reminded the Committee that even if Delta does the study, there would still be
Town staff time involved. Jim said that Delta will go out with staff to complete the
study. When a developer comes in,they would have to go to Delta to plan out the
roads needing to be fixed.
Rich asked if we would have to go with Delta for level 2. Jim said we might. He did
not feel that would be necessary, though,because of Town staff meeting with
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developers in the field. The Planning staff then gets involved to help developers set up
presentations. Jim explained that developers can not get a Certificate of Occupancy
without meeting with Public Works staff.
Mike Smith said that most of the development is on County or State roads.
It was decided that we should talk to Cornell Local Roads regarding doing a study. We
should try to get more information on what other Town's are doing.
Rich said that his concern is more with what would happen if something had to go to
court due to a law suite. Rich wanted to talk to the Sullivan County attorney regarding
what it cost to write their law and what it would cost to have our attorney adopt
Sullivan County's.
Warren Road
Jim informed the Committee that we have sent the State the information they were
requesting. The State is asking the Town to send that information to the DEC and to
FHWA. Rich ask if we were supplying them with the correct information. Jim said yes.
He explained that the State is moving very slowly on this project. There was a problem
with the SEQA.
Jim explained that we are hoping to get started in September. We can work on the
whole project, except the pervious pavement. Jim explained that we will need to bid
out the concrete and pervious pavement work. We had bid the pervious pavement
once before,but it's taking so long to get State approve,we had to cancel the contract.
There is another part of the grant, which has to do with educating the schools on safety
when walking to schools. He thinks they wanted to get that part does before Marnie K.
leaves.
Miscellaneous
Forest Home Traffic Calming: The bid opening will be July 28, 2010. There were
around six or seven companies that picked up specs.
Ridgecrest Road Water Tank Project: There were seven bidders. The bids ranged from
$115,000 to 200,000. We would like to get this project done this year. It will be before
the Board at the August 9,2010, meeting.
Town Hall Roof: Jim has put this project in the proposed 2011 budget. He said that a
total of$300,000 was put; $200,000 for the metal roof and $125,000 for re-pointing the
roof.
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Susan asked if the Town should continue to repair the current building or build a new
one. Jim said that maintenance would be needed whether current or new building. He
reminded the Committee that when the building was remodel, there were several
things identified that needed to be fixed,but were not. Now they need to be fixed. Jim
said that it would cost approximately$125,000 a year to maintain Town Hall.
Rich asked about window treatments. He said that he was involved in a church
restoration and the window where fixed. Susan suggested that we get someone in there
to look at the windows. Rich asked how much it costs to heat Town Hall. It is
approximately $36,000.
Verizon Wireless Lease: Jim has be asked what the status of giving Verizon Wireless a
lease to build a cell tower at the Trumansburg Water Tank site. He said that the Town
Attorney has not looked at it.
What does the Committee think? Susan said that she felt the Town Attorney should
look at it. Rich and Bill agreed. Jim said that TCCOG has a generic lease agreement
regarding cell phone towers.
Equipment Purchases: Jim said that Towns can do a blanket resolution to allow
Highway Superintendents to purchase equipment. We have looked into this and have
drafted a resolution for this. Jim said he would present it to the Town Board when he
does the Agreement of Expenditure of Monies.
The next meeting will be August 24, 2010, at 10:30 a.m.
The meeting was adjourned at 12:10 p.m.
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