HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC Minutes 2022-10-20 Town of Ithaca Planning Committee
Thursday, October 20, 2022
(3:00 PM via Zoom)
Minutes
Committee members: Rich DePaolo, Chair; Rod Howe & Margaret Johnson (3:45 PM)
Board/Staff members: Director of Planning, Susan Ritter; Director of Code Enforcement, Marty
Mosely, Dan Tasman, Planner.
Guests on Zoom: Bruce Brittain, Sean Whittaker, Leslie Strebel, Noah Demarest, Adam Fishel &
Andrew Henry.
1. Persons to be heard: Bruce Brittain spoke in support of preserving the historic barn on 340 Warren
Road owned by RaNic and offered a detailed history of the structure if any committee members or staff
were interested.
Leslie Strebel also spoke in support of preserving the barn although noted concern for the proposed use
as an event center. After the RaNic PDZ discussion, a typed comment regarding the weekend event
hours, potential parking and noise, lighting, and buffering related considerations for the proposed Barn
Venue zone was submitted to the committee.
2. Committee announcements and concerns: None
3. Approval of September meeting minutes: Rod moved; Rich seconded. The September 15, 2022,
minutes were approved with one minor correction.
4. Revised draft RaNic Golf Club Planned Development Zone: Noah Demerest of STREAM
Collaborative presented the few brief changes to the previously proposed Planned Development Zone
language for the RaNic Golf Club. The original proposal had two internal zones, PD-17-M with attached
housing and the golf clubhouse with complementary uses, and the remaining land being PD-17-G for the
golf/open space. A third zone, PD-17-B, was recently added to identify and permit a Stay and Play area
for reuse of an existing agricultural structure as a venue for private parties, small weddings and similar
invitation-only gatherings, as well as a limited number of overnight guest rooms. PD-17-B would cover
the existing Warren Road barn and farmhouse as well as the land across Warren Road owned by RaNic.
No changes to the previously submitted overall sketch plan were noted, and the larger boutique hotel is
still proposed to be on the Cayuga Heights side of the project.
Sean Whittaker, owner of the property, added that keeping the barn and farmhouse is an integral part of
the golf club and its integration and use is important and a key piece.
Noah Demarest explained that the term "barn venue"was more suitable for the location than the original
"event center". The definition was added into the draft PDZ along with 14 conditions such as capacity
requirements per NYS Building Code(calculated by dividing the size of the assembly space (TBD)by
40-50 to get a range) and constraints on events having more than 20 persons, such as being restricted to
twice a week with limits on hours of operation. Restroom (no portable restrooms) and all other required
facilities meeting NYS Building Code and Ithaca Town Code (noise, signs, etc). The existing dwelling
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unit in the new zone was added/identified and the "8 or less hotel room" allowance was moved out of
the PD-17-M zone to the new more appropriate PD-17-B zone. No hotel rooms are proposed for PD-17-
M. The intent of the 8 units is to not all be in the same building, but instead scattered within the PD-17-
B zone such as a possible carriage house, barn unit, duplex, not to exceed 8 total.
There was discussion about the proposed lodging and the rental oversight. Noah stated that the Town's
Short Term Rental Law would be followed for the townhomes, and no alternate language related to short
term rental is currently proposed for the PDZ. The townhomes in the PD-17-M zone would have a
homeowners association and if the intent of the owners is to exceed the law's requirements, then perhaps
an amendment to the PDZ could be explored at that time.
The term"hotel" and the definition in the existing zoning law was also discussed and noted as needing
additional clarification to meet the intent of the projects potential stand-alone or combined hotel room
units. Marty explained that if a kitchen,bed and bath were added to the barn, for example, it would
become a dwelling unit and short-term rental regulations would apply verses hotel/motel. A solution
could be an alternative term, such as "stay and play housing" within the PDZ. It was agreed that this
issue would be clarified by staff before sending the document for counsel review.
5. Revised final draft of the Inlet Valley Overlay District: The final draft document was reviewed
and discussed. The Retail and Service General section was clarified. Staff explained that the list of
exclusions to prevent mechanical commercial uses was intended to be exhaustive and that the category
does not exclude small scale commercial. Sue proposed changing the size of the gross floor area from
5000 ft2 maximum to 1500 ft2 maximum, in the LDR/IV-C overlay or eliminate it entirely from LDR
IV-C. The committee agreed to the maximum of 1500 ft2 gross floor area
Dan Tasman noted the sign dimensions and types are slightly different in the proposed IV Overlay
compared to the existing Town Sign Law. The Sign Law could/should be amended to add the IV
Overlay provisions.
Sue recommended putting the final proposed version on the town website to direct stakeholders to
review it prior to sending it on to the town board due to the significant changes made since the last
stakeholder meeting. Another option would be to email the document and map directly to the
stakeholders The committee was agreeable to both approaches.
7. LHC zone: Sue distributed an email with a proposed addition to the Limited Historic Commercial
Overlay District which the committee had approved and moved forward at the September meeting. She
suggested adding a new use called "Mixed used commercial and residential" and modifying the existing
"Residential principal uses" lowering the 1 principal dwelling unit size from 1,000 sq ft. to 600 sq. ft.
Revised sections were provided for review and consideration. Committee members agreed to these
changes, minor addition was to spell out GLA as gross leasable area.
7. Consider Solar Law draft amendments: Sue noted additional changes to the proposed amendments
to the Solar Law since the review in September. Major changes agreed by the committee included:
G.(2)(c) Large-scale - only allow large scale photovoltaics in PDZs as a principal use if the PDZ
language specifically allows it.
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G.(2)(c)[5] Full-scale - the committee discussed the question in (d) about adding into the law more
robust ag protection measures, rather than just referring to the NYS Ag & Markets document. Staff
provided a 4-page example of how the measures could be pulled from the document and tailored for the
Town. The question is whether to add these or just refer to the Ag & Markets guidelines. No decision
was made.
G.(2)(c)[5](d) Full-scaleāag soils and restrictions that no more than "50% of the parcel area" with
Prime Farmland or Farmland of Statewide Importance soils was discussed. To further the discussion,
the committee requested a map with the soil types and zoning districts shown.
G.(2)(c)[5](h) Revise as follows: "Noise generating inverters "must be" as far away from neighboring
property as possible."
It was noted that the fence law would need to be amended at the same time as the solar law, as well as
the zoning chapter, §270-5, definitions. Potentially/likely three concurrent local law amendments.
Sue noted past and upcoming solar webinars and how the recent webinar describing municipal shared
experiences was particularly helpful for crafting language ideas.
Marty and Sue presented language amending the definition in §270-5 for"Solar Facility Footprint".
They explained that this will help to avoid situations with small-scale facilities where an installation gets
stretched out in one row to avoid a planning board review. The proposed new language: "The maximum
occupied surface area taken up by the rows of solar panels and the space between the rows, except the
maximum occupied surface area for a Small-Scale Solar Facility does not include the rows between the
solar panels." Committee approved the change.
8. Continued discussion of pedestrian needs/priorities: time not permitted
9. Staff updates and reports: Sue reported that she met with the property owner of the approved
Holochuck Subdivision (100+townhomes) off Trumansburg Road. The initial project has expired. A
new plan for a small-scale seasonal recreation/tiny home community may be forthcoming. A PDZ would
be needed, and it was noted that the Ithaca Energy Code Supplement may apply.
Sue and Rod also noted a meeting with Ithaca Area Economic Development regarding a financial
assistance program related to tax or some similar financial incentive for multi-unit rental housing. This
program exists in the City of Ithaca and the group is open to expansion to new town projects for multi-
unit rental housing if the town was interested. Discussions will continue and updates will be given.
*Additionally, as a side note, during the meeting an issue was raised regarding committee member's in-
person attendance and access to meeting materials. A paper copy of the materials can be provided upon
request, the town board room computers could be used to access the materials electronically or a
personal laptop can be bought to assist committee members. A staff laptop could be borrowed as an
option as well.
10. Next meeting date and upcoming agenda items: November 171h, 2022. Continued review of draft
Solar Law amendments/soils map, pedestrian needs/priorities, LHC if necessary.
The Planning Committee meeting concluded at 5:02 pm.
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