HomeMy WebLinkAboutCOC Minutes 2021-12-08 TOWN OF ITHACA CODES AND ORDINANCES COMMITTEE (COC)
Meeting of December 8 th, 2021 —5:3 0 12m—via Zoom and live on YouTube
Final Minutes
Members and Staff Present: Bill Goodman, Chair, and Eva Hoffmann, Yvonne Fogarty, Pat
Leary, and Eric Levine - Members. Marty Moseley, Director of Code Enforcement; Susan Ritter,
Director of Planning; Chris Balestra, Planner; Susan Brock, Counsel-Staff.
Member Absent: Bill King
Bill G. set up the meeting to broadcast on YouTube along with the Zoom platform. The agenda
was then reviewed, and Bill noted that public comment would not be taken at this meeting but
may be taken at the January 2022 COC meeting.
1. Member comments/concerns. There were none.
2. Minutes from November 2021, COC meeting. The first draft was circulated, major
changes were added by the town attorney for clarity; and the approval was tabled to January
2022, so members had time to fully review.
3. Discussion of Potential Energy Code Supplement Revisions. Sustainability Planner
Nick Goldsmith and Director of Code Enforcement Marty Moseley submitted a memo briefing
an overview of proposed amendments needed to the Energy Code Supplement(ECS) to be in
line with NYS Energy Code. Marty explained that the NYS Codes Council had not yet reviewed
the ECS in full, however one element in the local code had been identified as being less stringent
than the current NYS Energy Code. A cursory review also identified a few other areas that need
minor amendments. A full, red-lined document for comparison and consideration will be
presented to the committee in January.
4. Discussion of Updates to Town of Ithaca Telecommunications Law—report on Town
of Fishkill law status and review of attached meeting materials. Susan Brock reported that
Andrew Campanelli drafted a revised law for Fishkill after feedback from the previous October
version. The newest revision is available on the Town of Fishkill website. Two sections were
noted as still being "reserved"-including the ADA accommodations section. A public hearing
was held; there were no public comments. The Town of Fishkill left the public hearing open until
the next Fishkill meeting, scheduled for 12/15/202 1.
Andrew Campanelli said the revised Fishkill law included design standards, along with parking,
lighting, fencing, and other provisions that were carried over from their current law. The setback
section was left blank in the October draft. But the revised draft included a 300-foot setback
between wireless facilities and all residences town-wide. This was agreed upon as the highest
number that Andrew Campanelli was willing to go, as the Fishkill Town Board wanted as high
of a number as possible without prohibiting all residential locations. Susan read the setback
section from the revised draft, and it read as follows: "Within all residentially-zoned districts, all
small wireless facilities shall be set back a minimum of 300 feet from any residential dwelling or
structure, unless the facility is being installed upon a pre-existing utility pole or is being
collocated upon a pre-existing personal wireless service facility." Within non-residential zones,
"the minimum setback shall be SO feet, unless the facility is being installed upon a pre-existing
utility pole or other utility structure. " Susan concluded that the language meant there would be
no setback requirements for small wireless facilities that are placed on pre-existing utility poles
or co-located on pre-existing personal wireless service facilities. She suggested following up
with the Town of Fishkill Planning department to inquire why the law was worded that way.
Susan will report on the progress of the Fishkill law at the next COC meeting in January.
Chris Balestra noted she would follow up with the Town of Fishkill Planning department on the
pre-existing setback section and report back to the committee at the next meeting. The committee
then reviewed the setback map prepared by staff that showed a 300-foot radius around residences
in the Town of Ithaca. The committee had previously reviewed 250-foot and 1500-foot setback
maps.
The COC moved on to discussing the "Town of Ithaca Approval Process and Aesthetics
Requirements For All Wireless Facilities"that was finalized in June of 2020, along with the
accompanying application process flow charts. These documents were referenced when the
committee discussed the question of who would be the "gatekeeper" for applications submitted
to the town. Susan Brock noted the importance of this role, due to the FCC shot clock timing
sensitivity. Chris stated that the Planning Department had taken the role of gatekeeper in the
past, and was the main communicator between the applicants, the Planning Board, and the Codes
Department. The Planning and Codes Departments informally discussed this before the COC
meeting and agreed that the process should begin with Planning Department staff.
Susan Brock noted that there may be changes needed to the existing flow charts, based on the
FCC Orders and other necessary changes. She stressed that the charts should be viewed as
"current working drafts" and not final drafts. For example, the flow charts did not specifically
identify a gatekeeper or the specific department/staff member that would begin the process, nor
who makes the factual determinations e.g., findings, that would be in the law. The Fishkill draft
identifies the Building Inspector as the gatekeeper. Chris reiterated that Planning department
staff began the process at the Town of Ithaca and recommended that Planning staff become the
"gatekeeper." Committee members agreed with the recommendation that the Planning staff
would continue to be the gatekeeper.
The Planning and Codes Departments also discussed the factual determinations to be rendered
when considering a wireless facility. Staff recommended that if an application went to the
Planning Board for review, then the Board would make the determinations, much like special
permit findings that are in the existing Town of Ithaca Code. But staff felt uncomfortable and
unqualified to make some of factual determinations for facilities that are reviewed internally—if
the town adopted the same ones as the Fishkill Law. Chris used the real estate example in the
Fishkill law, noting that town staff didn't feel comfortable determining that there would be
potential adverse impacts on real estate values of properties surrounding a facility. Planning and
Codes staff felt that it would be appropriate to have a board make that type of determination—or
to leave that type of determination off the Town of Ithaca's version of the law. The committee
discussed the possibility of having two lists, and also changing the Fishkill list to be more in line
with the Town of Ithaca.
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In terms of design/aesthetic standards, Susan reviewed the most recent draft of the Fishkill law
and did not see the design standards. It was not clear upon brief review where the design or
aesthetic standards were to be placed.
Pat noted that a good justification could be made for larger setbacks based on property values
being negatively affected, as opposed to the health concern that the public voiced concern over
(but is not legally able to be used as criteria for setbacks). Pat suggested setting the setback
requirement to something greater than 300 feet from residences, with justification based on
property value general impacts. Eva commented that the perception of the impact of property
values should be based on facts for accuracy, not based on what is believed. What types are
precedents could be researched? Bill G. stated that the committee should consider seeking advice
of counsel in closed session for this topic.
Bill directed the committee to review the list in Fishkill's "Local Zoning—Factual
Determinations" section. He asked if there was any mention in the Town of Ithaca's current
telecommunications law on the effect on real estate values. Chris said no—the town's current
law did not have anything related to the effect of real estate values. Chris commented that the
Fishkill determination seemed subjective, as it didn't require evidence to determine how property
values would be impacted. How does their building inspector determine that property values are
impacted without some sort of evidence of the same?
Susan stated that one of the purposes noted in the revised Town of Ithaca telecommunications
law that was drafted in 2020 was to preserve property values of the community. She noted that
without all applications going to the Planning Board, the staff won't have the information they
need to make the determination on the effect on real estate values. If all applications went to the
board, then the public would have the right to speak about property values at the public hearing.
They would also have the opportunity to submit comments and concerns to the board related to
property values. The public would have no opportunity to weigh in on an internally reviewed
project. That said, Susan stated that the application submission requirements for any project
(internal or board-reviewed) could include proof related to property values. It may be likely that
the companies will have their own property specialists who prepare information to be submitted
with the application.
The committee went back to the flow charts again to determine what they had previously
recommended regarding administrative/staff versus board review of various telecommunications
facilities. The goal was to see if the committee still wanted the items in the chart to undergo an
administrative Planning staff review or reconsider and have all applications go to the Planning
Board. Looking at the charts, Planning staff administrative review was recommended for when a
proposed facility would be collocated onto an existing structure. When the proposed facility is
NOT collocated onto an existing structure, then the Planning staff administrative review would
only be for a new individual small wireless facility (e.g., small individual antenna), and
everything else would require site plan review and special permit by the Planning Board.
Bill G. was in favor that the proposed approval structure remain as proposed in the flow charts,
with detailed criteria listed in the law for either staff or the board to apply. Eric, Pat, and Yvonne
agreed (Bill K was not present).
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Chris questioned if there should be language added like the town did with the sign law-
something that states that in an internal staff review, it would be under the discretion of the
Director of Planning or his/her designee that any application could be referred to the Planning
Board for review. Susan replied that could be looked at as a model, with keeping the FCC shot
clock timing in mind.
Another option proposed was to have every application go to the Planning Board, so the town
could gain experience in applying the law and then later re-determine if some applications should
be reviewed internally by Planning staff. The committee discussed this suggestion, with no
decision reached but one member supported it and some other members thought staff should
make decisions on certain applications.
The committee will continue the telecommunications law discussion at a later meeting.
5. Other business: Bill G. mentioned that there were changes coming to the COC
membership in 2022. This was Pat Leary's final COC meeting, so she was thanked for her long-
time service to the COC and to the town. It was unknown if Bill K. would remain on the COC,
and Yvonne stated she would remain through the end of the telecommunications law update,
leaving it possible for two new members to be on the committee in 2022. The proposed 2022
COC meeting schedule was discussed and approved for the second Wednesday of every month,
with one modification for the February meeting - it will be held February 16t'instead of
February 9t'.
• Next meeting: January 12, 2022
• Agenda: Energy Code Supplement revisions. If time permits, then the committee
will continue discussion of the telecommunications law, with a Town of Fishkill
law status update.
Bill made a motion go into closed session to seek advice of counsel at 6:57 p.m. and officially
adjourn. Eric seconded the motion, unanimously carried.
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