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TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD
SEPTEMBER 16, 1986
The Town of Ithaca Planning Board met in regular session on
Tuesday, September 16 , 1986, in Town Hall, 126 East Seneca Street,
Ithaca, New York, at 7 :30 p.m.
PRESENT: Chairman Montgomery May, Carolyn Grigorov, Virginia
Langhans, David Klein, James Baker, Robert Kenerson, John C.
Barney, Esq. (Town Attorney) , Lawrence P. Fabbroni, P.E.
(Town Engineer) , Andrew S . Frost (Town Building
Inspector/Zoning Enforcement Officer) .
ALSO PRESENT: Town Councilwoman Shirley Raffensperger, Millard A.
Brink, Glenn Snyder, James Van Every, Geofrey K.
Wetzler, Gary N. James, Robert B. Allan, David I.
Stewart, Laing E . Kennedy, Attorney Shirley K. Egan,
Eric F. Dicke, Richard B. Fischer, Barbara Gregoire.
Chairman May declared the meeting duly opened at 7 : 30 p.m. and
accepted for the record the Clerk ' s Affidavit of Posting and
Publication of the Notice of Public Hearing in Town Hall and the
Ithaca Journal on September 8 , 1986 and September 11, 1986 ,
respectively, together with the Secretary' s Affidavit of Service by
Mail of said Notice upon the various neighbors of the property under
discussion, upon the Tompkins County Director of Environmental Health,
upon the Tompkins County Commissioner of Public Works, upon the Clerk
of the City of Ithaca, upon the Building Commissioner of the City of
Ithaca, upon the Tompkins County Commissioner of Planning, and upon
the applicant and its agents on September 11, 1986 .
SKETCH PLAN REVIEW FOR A PROPOSED TWO-PARCEL SUBDIVISION OF LANDS
LOCATED AT 706 ELMIRA ROAD, TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL NO. 6-33-3-1.2 ,
AND FOR A REQUEST FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL TO OPERATE AN AUTOMOBILE
UPHOLSTERING BUSINESS ON ONE OF THE PARCELS. MILLARD BRINK, PROPERTY
OWNER; MICHAEL WELLS, APPLICANT.
Chairman May declared discussion in the above-noted matter duly
opened and read aloud from the Agenda as noted above. Mr. Michael
Wells was present, as was Mr. Brink.
Mr. Wells appeared before the Board and stated that the building
would sit parallel with Elmira Road, and would be approximately 2 ,300
to 2,500 square feet in size. Chairman May asked what was in front of
the area, with Mr. Wells responding that it was next to a swamp.
Chairman May noted that there is actually nothing in front of it, with
Mr. Wells pointing out that the Wonderland Motel is on the right and
the U.A.W. is on the left. Mr. Kenerson noted that there is about one
acre involved, to which Mr. Wells responded, right. Mrs. Langhans
asked Mr. Wells if he owned the front part, to which Mr. Wells
responded, no. Mrs. Langhans wondered if it were not one lot, that
is, front to back -- one lot, and if Mr. Wells were proposing to use
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just the back half. Mr. Wells stated that he was going to use just
part of it.
Mr. Wells explained that, about twenty years ago, Mr. Brink sold
about three or four acres to the Wonderland Motel and about ten acres
were left in the area, including the swamp, which is close to Route
13 . Mr. Wells, commenting that he had contacted a surveyor, stated
that another possibility than the one shown on the sketch would be to
go through Seven Mile Drive. Mr. Wells stated that the surveyor said
that coming off Elmira Road would entail using quite a bit of fill,
and, unless there was a good amount of fill available, it might be
cheaper for him to make the driveway come out of Seven Mile Drive,
instead of Route 13 , however, an opening on to Route 13 might be
possible in the future.
Mr. Millard Brink, 706 Elmira Road, spoke from the floor and
stated that he was selling only an acre of this ten-acre lot, adding
that part of it is opened and the part that Mr. Wells would be on is
zoned commercial. Mr. Brink stated that the back part over on Seven
Mile Drive is still zoned residential and agricultural . Ms. Beeners
stated that, according to her information, the area in question is
zoned light industrial. Chairman May asked if Ms. Beeners meant the
whole area, that is, the whole ten acres. Ms. Beeners described,
using Tax Map No. 33, the area that she understood was zoned light
industrial, the area zoned Business "C" , and the remaining area zoned
R-30 . Mr. Brink stated that Mr. Wells would be building his building
on the light industrial area.
Mrs . Langhans wondered if there were any reason why Mr. Wells had
to go back so far and not right on Route 13 . Mr. Wells responded that
there was no reason except monetary, adding that it is a swamp area,
and the way it is back in there, the fill that it would take to level
it off would probably be astronomical in cost. Mr. Wells stated that
it is almost like a peat bog, reiterating that it is a swamp, and
adding that it is very deep and just like coal in color.
Chairman May thanked Mr. Wells and asked if anyone had any other
questions, or if there were anyone who wished to speak or say anything
on this matter.
Town Engineer Fabbroni stated that he had concerns with the
proposal if the access is off Route 13 . Mr. Fabbroni stated that, if
that proposed right of way is used, he saw some possible effects --
traffic hazards -- if it were to come out on Route 13 there because of
the way the hill is which is close. Mr. Fabbroni noted that,
unfortunately, a road off Seven Mile Drive would have to be much
longer, whereas a road off Route 13 would be fairly short. Mrs.
Langhans asked Mr. Wells how long his proposed drive to the proposed
building would be , with Mr. Wells responding that it would be between
one hundred and two hundred feet long.
Chairman May asked if there were anything else or any other
comments from the Board or if anybody saw any particular problem. Mr.
Klein asked about the parking area. Chairman May, noting that this
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was a sketch plan review, stated that Mr. Wells will have to have a
survey and so on. Chairman May asked if the proposed use is light
industrial, with Ms. Beeners responding, yes. Chairman May commented
that that was fine. Mr. Klein asked if the whole site is light
industrial, with Ms. Beeners responding, yes, adding that all of this
site is shown as light industrial.
Chairman May pointed out to Mr. Wells that his proposal would be
subject to the light industrial zoning requirements relative to the
yard sizes and setbacks. Chairman May stated that Mr. Wells should
plan on going to the Zoning Board of Appeals and requesting a
variance. Town Attorney Barney noted that Mr. Wells would have to
obtain a variance for a reduced front yard and there would still be
the side yard requirements to deal with.
Chairman May declared the matter of sketch plan review of the
Michael Wells proposal duly closed.
PUBLIC HEARING: SITE PLAN REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION OF A
RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS WITH RESPECT TO A
REQUEST FOR SPECIAL APPROVAL OF A SCHOOL USE AND A POTENTIAL REQUEST
FOR A VARIANCE FOR A BUILDING HAVING A HEIGHT GREATER THAN 30 FEET FOR
THE PROPOSED CORNELL UNIVERSITY EQUITATION CENTER, PROPOSED TO BE
LOCATED ON PINE TREE ROAD BETWEEN THE INTERSECTIONS OF ELLIS HOLLOW
ROAD AND SNYDER HILL ROAD, TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCELS NO. 6--60-1-8 .2
AND 6-60-1-9E. CORNELL UNIVERSITY, OWNER; ERIC DICKE, AGENT.
Chairman May declared the Public Hearing in the above-noted
matter duly opened and read aloud from the Notice of Public Hearing as
posted and published and as noted above. Mr. Eric F. Dicke, Cornell
University Architect, was present, as were Laing E. Kennedy, Cornell
University Director of Athletics, David I . Stewart, Cornell University
Director of Community Relations and Assistant to the Vice President,
Gary N. James of Cornell University Athletic Facilities , Geofrey K.
Wetzler, Architect with Fred H. Thomas Associates, and Shirley K.
Egan, Cornell University Associate Counsel.
Mr. Dicke appeared before the Board and appended several drawings
to the bulletin board. Mr. Dicke stated that the project before the
Board involves the construction of an Equitation Center, consisting of
an indoor equestrian polo arena, stable barn, two hay and equipment
barns, four paddocks with feedshed, associated service yard, and
parking for 47 cars. Mr. Dicke stated that, at Cornell, equitation is
an educational program that is part of the physical education program
and which includes programs for both men's and women' s polo teams.
Mr. Dicke stated that Cornell wants to continue this program; it is
committed to this program. Mr. Dicke stated that it was necessary for
Equitation to relocate from its present site, known as Oxley Arena,
which is on Route 366 , across from the heating plant, also on Route
366 . Mr. Dicke stated that there are several reasons for such
relocation, number one of which is that the present facility from
which they are operating is in an area that is very difficult with
respect to location and presents many other problems. Mr. Dicke
stated that there is inadequate housing for the animals; there is an
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inadequate paddock area, and there is need for an improved indoor
field house for people to work in during February and March. Mr.
Dicke stated that they would like to relocate the equitation program
to the corner of Ellis Hollow and Pine Tree Roads , in an area that is
accessible to the University and other animal science facilities and
programs in that area. Mr. Dicke stated that the facility, as
proposed, would preserve the character of that area, and also serve to
protect that area from future commercial development, adding that that
could be an important aspect.
Mr. Dicke stated that the proposal involves a very attractive
arena, and pointed out, in order to orient anybody who might not be
familiar with the site, using a low-altitude aerial photograph, the
location of the site and the location of Pine Tree, Ellis Hollow, and
Snyder Hill Roads. Mr. Dicke, noting that the photograph was taken in
1984 , pointed out a spot where a house has since been added, and
stated that, in any event, the nearest house is approximately a
thousand feet away in any direction. Mr. Dicke indicated the site of
the proposed facility, adding that the total area involved is
approximately four acres. Mr. Dicke stated that there will be a polo
arena, and in the back would be a stable, plus two small hay and
equipment barns and four paddocks . Mr. Dicke stated that the arena
building will be set back from the road about 200 feet, noting that it
sits lower than the road, and pointing out a drop-off of approximately
six feet. With respect to the need for height variance, Mr. Dicke
stated that the building would be approximately 35 to 37 feet in
height, however, it will appear lower than that because of the
six-foot drop-off. Mr. Dicke concluded by stating that they
anticipate it to be quite a handsome facility.
Chairman May stated that clarification of the size of the
facility was appreciated because that had been a problem with the
previous proposal on Hanshaw Road. Mr. Dicke stated that
approximately 50 horses would be accommodated, and indicated the area
that will be fenced.
Chairman May noted that this was a Public Hearing and asked if
there were anyone present who wished to speak to the matter of the
proposed equitation facility.
Mr. James Van Every, 206 Pine Tree Road, spoke from the floor and
asked for clarification as to the exercise area for the horses,
particularly along Pine Tree Road. Mr. Dicke described the use of the
paddocks for periodic grazing and self-exercising areas and indicated
an exercise route as it related to Pine Tree Road .
Town Councilwoman Shirley Raffensperger, 139 Pine Tree Road,
spoke from the floor, and expressed the neighborhood's concern with
both general traffic and farm vehicle traffic, and also waste
disposal . Mr. Dicke referred to Appendices 211 , TV, and V1 of the
University' s submissions, as the same relate to both traffic and
manure and waste management.
Chairman May asked if anyone were prepared to move the draft
resolution with respect to SEQR.
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MOTION by Mr. David Klein, seconded by Mr. Robert Kenerson:
WHEREAS:
1 . This action is the site plan review and the consideration of a
recommendation of Special Approval and a height variance to the
Zoning Board of Appeals with respect to the proposed Cornell
University Equitation Center, to be located on Pine Tree Road.
2 . This project has been reviewed by the Planning Board in sketch
plan review on August 5 , 1986 , and at a Public Hearing on
September 16, 1986 .
.3 . This project is a Type I action for which the Zoning Board of
Appeals, in considering Special Approval and a height variance
for such project, is the Lead Agency for environmental review.
4 . A negative declaration of environmental significance has been
recommended by the Town Planner, providing the following:
a. That a height variance be obtained from the Zoning Board of
Appeals for construction of the proposed equitation arena,
with the arena height not to exceed 37 feet.
b. That a final drainage plan be approved by the Town Engineer.
THEREFORE, IT IS RESOLVED:
That the Planning Board recommend and hereby does recommend to
the Zoning Board of Appeals that a negative declaration of
environmental significance be made for the above-referenced action,
providing the following:
a . That a height variance be obtained from the Zoning Board of
Appeals for construction of the proposed equitation arena,
with the arena height not to exceed 37 feet.
b. That a final drainage plan be approved by the Town Engineer.
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a vote.
Aye - May, Grigorov, Langhans, Klein, Baker, Kenerson.
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
Chairman May asked the Board to turn to the matter of site plan
approval and recommendation as to special approval and height
variance. Town Attorney Barney asked if the site plan approval were
preliminary or final, with Chairman May responding that the site plan
approval is final, but conditioned. Discussion followed with respect
to the parking area being paved, or compacted gravel, or oil and
stone. Town Attorney Barney indicated that there may be a requirement
for some solid material such as blacktop, with Ms. Beeners indicating
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that oiling and stoning has been acceptable. Mr. Dicke stated that he
would think compacted gravel is a solid material, however, they would
consider oil and stone.
Chairman May asked if anyone were prepared to move the draft
resolution with respect to site plan approval and the recommendations
as to special approval and variance.
MOTION by Mr. Montgomery May, seconded by Mr. James Baker:
WHEREAS :
1 . This action is the site plan review and the consideration of a
recommendation of Special Approval and a height variance to the
Zoning Board of Appeals with respect to the proposed Cornell
University Equitation Center, to be located on Pine Tree Road.
2 . This project has been reviewed by the Planning Board in sketch
plan review on August 5, 1986 , and at a Public Hearing on
September 16, 1986 .
3 . This project is a Type I action for which the Zoning Board of
Appeals is the Lead Agency, and for which the Planning Board has
recommended to the Zoning Board of Appeals that a negative
declaration of environmental significance be made.
4 . The following materials have been reviewed by the Planning Board
at a Public Hearing on September 16 , 1986:
a. SEQR Long Environmental Assessment form and addendae.
b. Plans entitled "Cornell Equitation Facility - Proposed
Site" , dated July 29 , 1986; "Cornell Equitation Facility -
Site Plan" , dated September 2 , 1986; and "Cornell Equitation
Facility - Planting List" , dated August 22, 1986 , by Fred H.
Thomas, Associates, P.C. , Architects and Planners.
5 . The Planning Board finds that there is a need for the proposed
use in the proposed location on the grounds that:
a. The existing equitation facility is inadequate for the
Cornell equitation program.
b. The proposed facility is in a location that is convenient
for campus and other users, and is adequately served by
transportation systems.
C. The proposed facility is compatible with land uses in the
vicinity.
6 . The Planning Board finds that the existing and probable future
character of the neighborhood will not be adversely affected on
the grounds that:
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a. The project and its program management as proposed will not
represent a significant change in use from current land use
patterns. The project will assist in the maintenance of an
agricultural/open space buffer between the East Hill
business area and East Hill residential areas .
7 . The Planning Board finds that the proposed change is in
accordance with a comprehensive plan of development of the Town
on the grounds that:
a. The project use and design is appropriate for the proposed
location.
b. The project is consistent with zoning regulations, subject
to the granting, by the Zoning Board of Appeals, of Special
Approval for the proposed use and a height variance for one
of the proposed buildings.
THEREFORE, IT IS RESOLVED:
1 . That the Planning Board report and hereby does report its
approval of the site plan for the proposed facility, providing
that a final drainage plan be approved by the Town Engineer, and
providing that the required variances and approvals are received
from the Zoning Board of Appeals.
2 . That the Planning Board recommend and hereby does recommend to
the Zoning Board of Appeals that Special Approval for the
proposed use be granted, and that a height variance be granted
for construction of the proposed equitation arena, with the arena
height not to exceed 37 feet.
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a vote.
Aye - May, Grigorov, Langhans, Klein, Baker, Kenerson.
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
Chairman May declared the matter of the proposed Cornell
University Equitation Facility duly closed.
SKETCH PLAN REVIEW FOR THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION OF A 1 .01 ACRE PARCEL
FROM A 17. 693 ACRE PARCEL OF LAND LOCATED ON EAST KING ROAD, TOWN OF
ITHACA TAX PARCEL NO. 6-44-2-9 . PAUL B. ERDMAN, OWNER; BARBARA W. AND
EDWARD C. GREGOIRE, APPLICANTS.
Chairman May declared discussion in the above-noted matter duly
opened and read aloud from the Agenda as noted above. Mrs. Barbara
Gregoire was present.
The Board members reviewed the material submitted by the
Gregoires, consisting of a completed Short Environmental Assessment
Form dated August 21 , 1986 [Part I] , and a survey map signed and
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sealed by Paul B. Erdman, Registered Engineer, showing the proposed
1 .01 acre parcel to be subdivided from parcel 6-44-2-9 . Ms. Beeners
displayed the entirety of Tax Map No. 44 in order for the Board to see
the relationship of the proposed parcel to the general area of
Ridgecrest Road/East King Road.
Chairman May asked how the Board felt about the proposal and if
there were any questions. Mr. Klein asked Mrs. Gregoire if she were
planning to build a one-family or a two-family house, with Mrs.
Gregoire responding, a one-family residence. Town Attorney Barney
offered that as long as the side yard requirements are met, the house
could be placed almost anywhere on the proposed parcel. Chairman May
stated that he thought everyone felt fairly comfortable with the
proposed lot, and suggested that the Gregoires could return for public
hearing on the matter.
ADJOURNMENT
Upon Motion, Chairman May declared the September 16, 1986,
meeting of the Town of Ithaca Planning Board duly adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
Nancy M. Fuller, Secretary,
Town of Ithaca Planning Board.