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TOWN OF ITHACA
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• Town of Ithaca Clerk 1
Zoning Board of Appeals
August 9 , 1989
TOWN OF ITHACA
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
August 9 , 1989
A Regular Meeting of the Town of Ithaca Zoning Board of Appeals
was held on August 9 , 1989 at 7 : 00 p . m . in Town Hall , 126 East
Seneca Street , Ithaca , New York ,
PRESENT : Chairman Henry Aron . Edward Austen , Edward King , Eva
Hoffmann , Town Attorney John Barney , Zoning
Enforcement Officer/ Building Inspector Andrew Frost ,
ALSO PRESENT : Mary Blumen , Isadore Blumen , Helene Porte , Joel
Porte , Gary Wood , David Axenfeld , Ed Olmstead ,
Mike LoPinto , Jr .
Chairman Aron called the meeting to order at 7 : 05 p . m . and
stated that all posting , publication and notification of the
public hearings had been completed and that proper affidavits of
same were in order .
The first Appeal on the Agenda was the following .
ADJOURNED APPEAL ( FROM JUNE 14 , 1989 ) OF ISADORE
BLUMEN , APPELLANT , REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION FROM
THE BOARD OF APPEALS FOR THE EXTENSION OF A NON-
CONFORMING STRUCTURE ON A LEGAL NON-CONFORMING
LOT , LOCATED AT 122 WARREN ROAD , TOWN OF ITHACA
TAX PARCEL NO . 6 - 66 -2 - 3 RESIDENCE DISTRICT R- 15 .
THE EXTENSION INVOLVES THE ENLARGEMENT OF AN
EXISTING CARPORT CURRENTLY LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 5
+ OR — FEET TO THE NORTH SIDEYARD LOT LINE AND IS
PROPOSED TO BE DECREASED TO I —FOOT + OR — THROUGH
SAID ENLARGEMENT . CURRENT ZONING WOULD REQUIRE A
10 ' SIDEYARD SET—BACK FOR A GARAGE STRUCTURE .
AUTHORIZATION IS REQUESTED UNDER ARTICLE XII ,
SECTION 54 , OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE .
Chairman Aron referred to the survey map that had been
provided to the Board by Mr . Blumen , stamped by Mr . Richard A .
Slade , dated July 21 , 1989 . ( Attached hereto as Exhibit # 1 ) .
Chairman Aron stated that he noticed on the Survey Map there is a
wall which extends over and above Mr . Blumen ' s lot line . He
asked Mr . Blumen to address the Board .
Mr . Blumen stated that the wall on the northeast corner is a
retaining wall which , at the maximum is 1 foot above the grade ,
and extends slightly into the Town line , and that , therefore ,
does affect their proposed structure . The other thing is that
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he based his drawing on the center line of the road as it now
exists . That center line apparently has been moved since Carl
Crandall did his survey and that is reflected on both the
easement map drawn by Hunt Engineers and on the map as drawn by
Mr . Slade . Mr . Blumen said that the center of the line which
reflects his right - of -way is as currently given on the map by Mr .
Slade . It is , therefore , approximately 1 foot west of where he
thought it was . He said that clearly he cannot build on someone
else ' s property , therefore , what he proposes to do is to modify
his existing plan by chamfering slightly from the middle of the
carport so he will remain inside of the property line . The
carport would run back roughly speaking 8 feet from the right - of -
way and then it would cut in slightly south so that he is within
that line .
Mr . Blumen sketched in on the Survey Map , for the Board ,
what he proposes to . do . He said that the point in chamfering it is
to avoid giving the impression of an oddly shaped building . Mr .
Blumen said that he is not clear on what the law is here and he
asked how far off he can build to the right - of -way . From an
aesthetic point of view , it would be nice if the carport were
balanced so that it is as far forward as it is back from the
center lines . If he has to move back to the right - of -way line ,
he will do so . If he has to do that , he would like to have about
a foot overhang on the west side , backward , away from the road so
that they have a little more coverage of the cars . Mr . Blumen
said that he will have to ask for advice from the Board on
whether he can use any portion of the right - of -way since there
are obviously a lot of people who are using it now .
Chairman Aron referred to the Minutes of the June 14 , 1989
Board of Appeals meeting in regard to the statement made by Mrs .
Hertel concerning the protection of the walkway on Warren Road .
Mr . Blumen stated that the drainage was an old culvert that was
put in just under the road and then there was an open ditch
there . The Town has buried that . It is on the right - of -way away
from his property . The Town has extended culverts , he believes ,
20 feet from the existing culvert . It is now covered by 10 - 15
feet of dirt .
Chairman Aron opened the public hearing . No one appeared to
address the Board . Chairman Aron closed the public hearing .
Mr . King stated that he thinks the Board should make the
observation to Mr . Blumen that this Board considers zoning
matters only and if he builds something on somebody else ' s
• property , like Cornell ' s or the Town ' s roadway , he does it at his
own risk unless he has obtained some formal easement , which he is
not likely to obtain , to build in a roadway .
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Mr . Blumen responded that it is unlikely that anybody would
move anybody off but that is not the issue . Mr . King said that
the possibility is always there and if this Board should grant
Mr . Blumen the right to extend his carport to the north in
proximity to the line of the neighbor ( Town of Ithaca ) and the
Town at some point decided that they wanted to make some other
use of that land they could chop off his carport .
Mr . Blumen said that he understands that and that is why he
is willing to accept the idea of chamfering so that possibility
does not arise .
Mr . King asked Mr . Blumen if he understands that this Board
is not going to say that he has the legal right to build there .
Mr . Blumen replied that he does understand that .
Mr . Frost said that he would not necessarily give Mr . Blumen
a permit if he showed a plot plan that crossed the property line .
Mr . Blumen stated that the plot plan would show that it would
possibly be going into the right - of -way . He said he certainly
would not go across the property line ; no question about that .
• There is no question that he would not build over the walkway .
He further stated that the only reason he is suggesting that he
is willing to go out one foot is that he thinks it would look a
little better . That way the rear end of the carport would line
up with the house .
After further discussion regarding the plot plan and the
right - of -way , Mr . Blumen said that he would only go up to the
easement line and would extend the overhang one foot in back ,
beyond what it now shows .
Chairman Aron said if there were no further questions , he
would entertain a motion as to whether or not the Board should
grant Mr . Blumen approval for a variance for the back set for
building a carport as shown on the survey map of July 21 , 1989 .
Mr . King made the following motion :
RESOLVED , That the Town of Ithaca Zoning Board of Appeals
finds the following .
1 ) . that Mr . Blumen ' s residential parcel is in a unique
situation topographically as there is very little room
to the front of the house because of the steep drop off
of the property toward the west from the roadway .
• 2 ) . that the Board further finds that the property to the
north of his carport where he would like to extend
adjacent to the property line is owned by the Town of
Ithaca and presently utilized for a recreational
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bikeway or pathway .
3 ) . it does not appear that the shifting of the carport
wall to the north would pose any serious problem for
the Town .
4 ) 9 that the property directly opposite the Blumen property
( on the east side of Warren Road ) is rather a
wilderness area ; the one house over there being almost
invisible from the road and therefore the carport will
have no significant visual impact on that house .
5 ) . that the Board has heard evidence about the drainage
situation and it appears that the proposal would not in
any way adversely affect service to the storm drainage
and water .
6 ) . that the carport might actually assist in removing at
least one vehicle from Warren Road which is a narrow
and steep road at this point .
7 ) . the proposal would not have a detrimental effect on
traffic .
8 ) 9 the proposed access and egress to the structure are
designed safely . Therefore , be it
• RESOLVED , that this Board grant and hereby does grant an
extension of a non - conforming use to permit the extension
northerly of the carport along the lines as modified before
the Board of Appeals on this date by the applicant , that
extension to be as indicated on the applicant ' s original
drawings which were 6 feet plus or minus northerly ( it
appears from the survey that it might be 8 feet ) from the
west end of the present carport . Mr . Blumen will be
chamfering the northwesterly line to parallel the property
line rather than crossing it . This authorization as far as
this Board is concerned is to construct the addition within
the property line to the west side of the highway right - of -
way line .
Mr . Austen seconded the motion .
The vote on the motion was as follows .
Ayes - King , Austen , Hoffmann , Aron .
Nays - None .
The motion was carried unanimously .
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The next item on the agenda was the following .
APPEAL OF JOEL AND HELENE PORTE , APPELLANTS , REQUESTING
A VARIANCE FROM ARTICLE IV , SECTION 11 , OF THE TOWN OF
ITHACA ZONING ORDINANCE TO PERMIT THE CONVERSION OF THE
SECOND FLOOR OF AN EXISTING BARN/STORAGE BUILDING TO A
DWELLING UNIT , LOCATED AT 1405 HANSHAW ROAD , TOWN OF
ITHACA TAX PARCEL NO . 6 -70 - 12 -8 , RESIDENCE DISTRICT R-
15 . SAID PROPERTY CONTAINS AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY
RESIDENCE WHEREAS THE TOWN OF ITHACA ZONING ORDINANCE
PERMITS ONLY ONE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING ON A SINGLE
PARCEL OF LAND .
Mr . Porte addressed the Board and stated that the projected
renovation of their barn is intended for personal and family use
only . They are not interested in rental property . He said that ,
to date , 4 of the 6 neighbors to whom they wrote describing their
petition have replied and they are all supportive of their
project . He said the planned renovation will in no way have a
negative impact on their neighborhood , indeed it will be
essentially invisible to neighbors and passers - by . He wished to
the draw the Board ' s attention to the fact that their lot
contains approximately 1 and 2 / 3 acres which is almost 5 times
the 15 , 000 square foot requirement for a building lot . They
believe that the improvement of their barn will protect and
enhance the property of some historic interest .
Mr . Porte stated that Whiffletree farm , as it is called ,
has stood on Hanshaw Road since the 1850 ' s and . originally
encompassed a square mile of land . Like so many of their fellow
Ithacans , they want to improve and make use of a kind of building
that is unique in our history and to our land . The ingenuity and
craft that went into the planning and construction of so many
barns in America represent a fine architectural resource and
heritage . This is what they wish to protect and enhance for
their own use .
Chairman Aron read letters into the record from the
following persons . Natalie Concannon , dated August 5 , 1989 , and
Raymond A . DiPasquale , dated June 21 , 1989 . The letters are
attached hereto as Exhibits # 2 and # 3 . He then read a letter
from the Portes to Mr . and Mrs . Thomas Murphy , dated July 17 ,
1989 and the Murphys ' response ( attached hereto as Exhibit # 4 ) .
Chairman Aron also read letters from Thomas P . LiVigne , dated
July 25 , 1989 , and from Scharlie and Ray Handlan , dated July 28 ,
1989 , attached as Exhibits # 5 and # 6 .
• Chairman Aron stated to Mr . Porte that , as he has probably
been made aware of by Mr . Frost , we cannot have two residential
buildings on one plat . He referred to the survey map that was
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done by Mr . Lawrence P . Fabbroni and which is attached hereto as
Exhibit # 7 . He said that it shows that the house and the barn
are in very close proximity . He asked Mr . Porte if he had asked
the Planning Board for a subdivision of that plat .
Mr . Porte responded that they went to the Planning
Department and spoke with Susan Beeners and George Frantz . They
discussed the possibility of drawing a line through the two
halves of the property . The problem was going around the pool ,
they couldn ' t put the line through the middle of the pool and , in
talking with them about this , he decided that he thought it would
make more sense just to appeal to the Board of Appeals directly
for a variance rather than try to get involved in the complicated
business of dividing . They were informed that if they got
permission to divide the lot and drew a proper line through it ,
they would need a variance because the house then would be too
close to the right - of -way . Therefore , it seemed to him that the
simplest thing to do was to come to the Board and ask for a
variance to do the work without getting involved in legal
friction of subdividing .the property .
• Chairman Aron explained the subdivision procedure to Mr .
Porte and discussion followed on the floor on that procedure .
Mr . King stated that he thinks the Board can consider the
matter since Mr . Porte does not want to subdivide . He wants to
preserve this . He uses the phrase historic preservation . He
wants to preserve this part of the farm intact . Mr . King said
that he thinks the Board has to look at whether fir . Porte. would
have enough land to have two houses if he were going to
subdivide . That is only helpful to the Board in deciding whether
what he is asking for is really an over - intensive use of the land
or not and he thinks it is quite clear that with all the square
footage that he has there his proposal is not going to increase
the density significantly at all . ,
Discussion followed regarding Section 68 of the Zoning
Ordinance . Chairman Aron read from the Section in answer to a
question from Mrs . Hoffmann about Article 4 , Section 11 . Town
Attorney Barney stated that all the amendments have been
consolidated into a word processor and as soon as it has been
proof read , there will be new books ready for the Boards of the
Town .
Chairman Aron opened the public hearing .
Mike LoPinto Jr . , addressed the Board and stated that he is
interested in doing something similar to what the appellant is .
The fact is that the Town of Ithaca requires a minimum lot size
of 100 ' x 150 ' which is 15 , 000 square feet . His question to the
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Board was , it seems the way the zoning is written is to make it
so that in a minimum lot size of 100 x 150 feet the Town will
allow a 2 - family dwelling . He is curious as to why if you have a
building lot that is twice or three times 15 , 000 square feet why
isn ' t there some kind of allowance to have another dwelling unit
on your property . Mr . LoPinto said it seems that the zoning is
written to make it so that the density- of the neighborhood isn ' t
increased . It seems like the Town is trying to control density
but they won ' t allow you to have another dwelling unit on your
property unless it is attached .
Mr . King replied that density is only one factor . There are
many factors involved such as streets , traffic , etc . , in the
neighborhood , so it is not just a matter of having a one lode
stone answer .
Mr . LoPinto said that it seems that if the Town will allow a
two - family unit in just 15 , 000 square feet , it would seem like
that would be the quota that they are working on as far as the
impact to the rest of the area .
• Town Attorney Barney stated that there are a number of other
requirements too , such as side yard , front yard , etc . The
mechanism by which the zoning ordinance works is through
restrictions .
Mr . LoPinto thanked the Board for the information .
Chairman Aron closed the public hearing .
In response to a question from Ms . Hoffmann , Town Attorney
Barney again read Section 68 of the Zoning Ordinance regarding
multiple residence districts .
Town Attorney Barney stated that on the survey map there
appears to be a structure at the northwest corner of the pool .
He asked Mr . Porte what that structure was and how far back from
the road you go before you hit a portion of that structure . Mr .
Porte replied that the structure is a cabana and it is about
half way back . Town Attorney Barney said the reason he asked is
because under the new regulations if you can ' t fit a rectangle
150 ' by 100 ' feet in , you are going to have increased side yard
and rear yard requirements . He said that it looks like a
rectangle would fit in this lot .
Chairman Aron stated that in looking at the survey map , it
• appears that there would be practical difficulties here for the
division of that parcel into two pieces .
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Mr . Austen asked Mr . Porte what the barn is used for now .
Mr . Porte stated that the bottom part is used for a garage , the
top floor is empty . If they are granted their request , the top
would become a studio apartment .
Town Attorney Barney asked Mr . Porte if what he is proposing
is strictly family related . Mr . Porte replied yes . Town
Attorney Barney asked what assurance is there that the use would
be limited to family use . Mr . Porte asked if the Board wouldn ' t
have the power to write it into the variance saying that it would
not be for rental use . Town Attorney Barney said the Board could
do that .
Mr . King stated that the Board has in the past allowed a
permit to be conditioned on family use . He said that if there were a
condition and a restriction on the house remaining a single
family , not a family plus one apartment , he thinks that is the
type of condition that might be attached to this kind of use .
Town Attorney Barney asked Mr . Porte if he would have a
problem with that condition . Mr . Porte responded , none
• whatsoever .
Mr . Austen asked if this building is going to have all
separate utilities not connected to the house . Mr . Porte said
they did discuss that with their contractor . The sewer will be
connected to the existing sewer line .
Mr . King asked Mr . Austen if there was an advantage to Mr .
Porte having separate utilities . Mr . Austen replied that if all
the utilities were separate , it would be a separate entity
entirely . If they were connected to the house , he would see it
as part of the house itself , as an apartment to the house .
Mr . Frost said that it would perhaps provide better control
in terms of rental if there were one gas meter and one electric
meter serving more than one building .
Mr . Porte again stated that they have no intention of
renting to anybody .
There was discussion among Board members as to whether or
not the variance can be conditioned to assure that there will be
no rental of the premises .
Mr . King suggested that the Board make it a condition that
there be only these two dwelling units , one in the house , one in
the barn , on this parcel . That would departing from the
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ordinance in the least extensive way possible because we would
still be sticking to a two - family residential use of this . parcel
of land .
Chairman Aron stated that if there were no further
discussion he would entertain a motion whether the Board should
or should not grant a variance in this matter .
Ms . Hoffmann remarked that to grant a variance , she
believes there has to be some indication of practical difficulty .
Mr . King said he thinks the Board can find practical
difficulty in historic preservation of the unique property .
There does not seem to be any other way to do this to preserve
and utilize the barn . He also stated that he thinks it would be
a hardship that the Portes cannot use that barn for this purpose .
Mr . King made the following motion .
RESOLVED , this Town of Ithaca Zoning Board of Appeals finds
as follows in regard to the application :
16 the proposed use of the second floor of the barn for a
studio apartment , for the use of the owners of the
entire parcel only , would be beneficial to the
preservation of an historic structure , namely the barn ,
along with the house .
2 * the barn is sited approximately 55 feet east of the
west property line , and about 90 feet south of the
right - of -way line on the highway , 160 feet west of the
easterly property line and about 160 feet north of the
southerly or rear property line , therefore , it is not
proximate to neighbors ' parcels or to any neighboring
structure .
3 * that the proposed use of the barn by members of the
family only would be consistent with the residential
character of the neighborhood .
4e that it would not impose any additional traffic burdens
on the area .
5 * there exists public water and sewage for the use of the
property so that said extension to a two - family will
pose no health problems .
6e the only persons who submitted documentation on this
application were neighbors who favored the proposal .
There was no one who appeared in opposition to it .
• therefore , it is
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RESOLVED , that this Board grant and hereby does grant a
variance to permit the use of the second floor of the
barn for the studio apartment upon condition that :
1 . Such use of both units to be by the one family
occupying both the house itself and the studio
apartment and will be by members of the family of the
owners of the property only and it is not to be rented
out .
2 . These conditions be incorporated into a document of
recordable form . They will not be altered without this
Board agreeing to the alteration and that document be
recorded in the Tompkins County Clerk ' s office , in the
Title Records relating to this property .
3 . That the document be prepared by the applicant , subject
to the Town Attorney ' s approval , prior to certificate
of occupancy being issued .
Ms . Hoffmann seconded the motion .
The voting on the appeal was as follows .
Ayes - King , Aron , Austen , Hoffmann .
Nays - None .
The motion was carried unanimously .
The last Appeal on the Agenda was the following .
APPEAL OF DAVID AXENFELD , APPELLANT , REQUESTING A
VARIANCE UNDER SECTION 9 OF TOWN OF ITHACA LOCAL LAW
# 7 - 19881 AS AMENDED , "REQUIRING SPRINKLER SYSTEMS TO BE
INSTALLED IN BUILDINGS IN THE TOWN OF ITHACA" , FOR THE
TEMPORARY EXEMPTION OF AN OPERATIONAL SPRINKLER
INSTALLATION IN THE PROPOSED CANNON POOL RECREATIONAL
AND SPA RETAIL SALES FACILITY TO BE LOCATED AT 618
ELMIRA ROAD , ON A RECENTLY SUBDIVIDED PORTION OF TOWN
OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL NO . 6 - 33 - 3 - 2 . 2 , LIGHT INDUSTRIAL
DISTRICT .
Mr . Gary L . Wood , P . E . , addressed the Board , representing
Cannon Pools . He stated that the sprinkler system is included in
the design of the building and will be installed . The request is
for a temporary special permit acknowledging the practical
difficulty of trying to provide on - site water supply that
conforms with the NFPA requirements .
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Chairman Aron stated that the Board understands that the
Town was going to be going through that area with a water supply
in about a year .
Mr . Wood said that the status of the project , as far as Mr .
Axenfeld is concerned , is that he gave up his previous sales
facility on Elmira Road earlier this year . He has been without a
facility , thinking that he was going to have this one
constructed . As it stands right now , he thought that municipal
water was going to be available in a short time and planned to
put in a temporary storage tank which could serve domestic needs ,
bring in bottled water for potable water , and that left only the
sprinkler system which is a practical matter , but , to be served ,
you just can ' t put that kind of storage out of sight . Mr . Wood
said that if municipal water does not came through in a short
duration , then Mr . Axenfeld is still faced with a building that
he can use due to his unique position of being in the pool
business and having somebody who is under contract to him to
supply water to fill pools . so this individual can supply the
tank that would be installed on - site for domestic use .
Chairman Aron read a letter from Gary L . Wood to the Board
of Zoning Appeals , dated July 17 , 1989 and attached hereto as
Exhibit # 8 . Chairman Aron asked. Mr . . Wood if he is saying that
Mr . Frost did not issue a building permit . Mr . Wood responded
that subsequent to that application , Mr . Frost has , in fact ,
issued a building permit .
Mr . Frost stated that the building permit was issued with
the understanding that he will have the working sprinkler system
to code or be allowed a variance . If he does not get a variance ,
Mr . Axenfeld will have to have a storage tank or whatever else
ittakes to have NEPA approve his system . If he gets the
variance , then the installation of a sprinkler system that could
be then connected to public water would suffice .
Mr . King asked if Mr . Axenfeld would design the sprinkler
system any differently depending on which mode he is going to be
using . Mr . Wood responded no .
Chairman Aron referred to the Veterinary Hospital and the
warehouse that were granted variances . He asked Mr . Frost what
the difference is between Mr . Axenfeld ' s . request and the others
that were granted . Mr . Frost responded that there is none ,
except that he ( Mr . Frost ) can ' t give him a variance .
Chairman Aron stated that the warehouse was conditioned to
have , in the meantime , some fire retardation type of equipment
there until it is hooked into the municipal water system but the
sprinkler system had to be in place . He asked Mr . Wood if that
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is what he intends to do . Mr . Wood replied that that was an
explicit understanding .
Town Attorney Barney referred to the 15 psi that is
mentioned in Mr . Wood ' s letter and said that does not seem like a
very high pressure level . Mr . Wood said that it isn ' t but it is
equivalent to about a 35 head . Mr . Wood said that the problem is
the quantity . If he remembers correctly , they have to supply
something like 15 gallons a minute for 30 minutes to the system
up to the head . It becomes a substantial amount of water and it
is just not practical to store on site .
Town Attorney Barney said if they installed the system and
hooked it up to whatever water supply system they have now there
would be some protection . Mr . Wood said that is the intention .
Mr . Axenfeld is going to install a temporary 1 , 000 gallon tank
and have a pump to take suction from that to supply water to the
toilets and sinks , and the sprinkler system for that matter .
Chairman Aron opened the public hearing . No one appeared to
address the Board . Chairman Aron closed the public hearing .
Town Attorney Barney asked why there couldn ' t be a
provision for a pump to be installed connected to the system .
Mr . Axenfeld replied that if there were a fire and. the
electricity goes out , an electrical pump is not going to allow
that water to be pumped up to the sprinkler heads . In order to
have such a type system they would either need a generator to
turn on the electricity or something to pump the water up on the
roof to obtain the pressure at the heads . Town Attorney Barney
said that the Board understands what the NFPA standards are but
he is asking for a temporary waiver from that and whatever the
waiver is , presumably it is not going to be a . perfect solution
but there are ways for solutions to be devised . Mr . Wood said
that one solution would be to connect the - system on line now so
that whatever water and pressure is available is there . He also
suggested that the supply tank could be filled at half intervals ,
500 gallons instead of 1 , 000 , to make sure there is always some
water there . As far as using the exterior pools , that would not
be practical in the wintertime as the pools become frozen .
Chairman Aron asked Fire Chief Olmstead for his expert
advice and recommendation . Chief Olmstead stated that the
problem with the variance is if the Board starts to engineer
some alternatives , which in listening to the discussion does not
sound too practical , could there be a possibility that the Board
® could incur more liability on the part of the Zoning Board or the
Town for engineering something that is of questionable value . He
said that should there be some resulting disfunction , it could
allow some claim to come back against the Town or the Zoning
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Board as opposed to what the Board did with the veterinary place
when they told them to put the system in and when the municipal
water comes through , to hook it up .
Town Attorney Barney responded that there is always a risk
but the object is that we have a requirement , and it is
reasonable for people to come in and ask for a waiver of the
requirement in a temporary situation when there will definitely
in the future be municipal water going through their area to hook
up to . Otherwise the Board would be asking people to invest
$ 20 , 000 or so to make it completely adequate for an engineered
system under the NFPA standard .
Further discussion followed regarding the standards . Chief
Olmstead said he has no solutions .
Town Attorney Barney said that he thinks they are a year
away from having municipal water in that area . Mr . Wood said
that his letter was written on the basis of the information that
he was lead to believe . Mr . Frost interjected that he thinks the
target date is 1990 .
• Mr . Austen suggested that the pump be set like a fire pump ,
with a disconnect separate from the building service , maybe on
the same service . Mr . Wood said that it would have to be on the
same service . You are only allowed one service into a building .
Mr . Austen stated that it could be on the same meter but a
separate disconnect for that particular pump so that if the
building power was off , that pump would not necessarily be gone .
Mr . Wood stated that would be reasonable .
Mr . Frost said that the only other thought that he would
have is an emergency generator . Mr . Austen said that if it were
not maintained as an emergency generator all the time it is no
better and this is a temporary arrangement for probably no more
than one year on the outside . Town Attorney Barney stated that
he can see it being two years .
Mr . Wood stated that even so the Board has . established their
objective that there are new buildings being constructed with
sprinkler systems in them and it will be there when the water is
available and they will be connected to the system .
Town Attorney Barney asked Mr . Wood if the bids come in
astronomical for the water project and for some reason the Town
decides not to build to their location , could he engineer an NFPA
• approved system with an in - ground tank . Mr . Wood replied , yes .
It would require an emergency generator to back up the fire pump
but , yes , it could be done .
Town of Ithaca 14
Zoning Board of Appeals
August 9 , 1989
After further discussion , Chairman Aron said that he would
entertain a motion .
Mr . Austen made the following motion :
RESOLVED , that the Town of Ithaca Zoning Board of Appeals
grant and hereby does grant a temporary variance from the
Sprinkler Law to allow this building to have a sprinkler
system hooked up on a temporary means with a minimum of
2 , 000 gallons of water stored in a non - freezable location
with a pump to provide enough volume and pressure to operate
the system for no less than 30 minutes and that the wiring
be protected so that if the building service is off the pump
will be energized through a separate switch , and
FURTHER RESOLVED , that as soon as the municipal water
becomes available , the system will be hooked up to it within
a 30 - day period . If municipal water does not extend to this
property within a three year period , the system will be made
to comply with the necessary codes . There will be
sufficient water stored to be meet the NFPA standards , and
FURTHER RESOLVED , that , in the meantime , the storage tank of
2 , 000 gallons will be maintained at all times at least half
full .
Ms . Hoffmann seconded the motion .
The voting on the motion was as follows .
Ayes - King , Austen , Aron , Hoffmann .
Nays - Mone .
The motion was carried unanimously .
The meeting adjourned at 8 : 55 p . m .
Respectfully Submitted ,
Connie J . Holcomb
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Ithaca ,
d :Ithaca , NY 14850
August 5 , .. 1989
Mr . and Mrs . Joel Porte
1405 Hanshaw Rd .
Ithaca , NY 1450
Dear Mr . and Mrs . Porte ,
As neighbors , we have no objection to your petition to renovate
your barn on your property at 1405 Hanshaw Rd . .
We hope this note will be of support when you make your .appeal to
the. Town Zoning Board .
Sincerely ,
v _
Natalie Concannon
EXHIBIT # 2
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Raymond A . DiPasquale
and Associates
June 21 , 1989 STRUCTURAL CONSULTANTS
121 West State Street
Studio: 203 Wyckoff Avenue
Ithaca, New York 14850
P_O. Box 848
Office: 607/272-8585
Mr . and Mrs . Joel Porte
Whiffletree Farm
2405 Hanshaw Road
Ithaca , New York 14850
RE : Barn Remodeling
Dear Mr . and Mrs . Porte ,
On this date , I have reviewed the existing structure of the
barn / garage building on your property . I have also reviewed the
drawings outlining your proposed remodeling program .
In my opinion , the existing structural framing is very adequate
uate
to accomodate the intended future loading . The barn in general is
in excellent • shape , considering its age . The building is visibly
square , is well braced , and there are no signs of excessive
deflection or frame distortion . The dry rot at the base of the
exterior siding is to be expected and is limited to the ground line
area : it is easily repaired .
The only potential weak link . in the system are the foundations ,
although there was no evidence of settlement or frost heave
anywhere . Apparently the six major wood columns in the north and
south walls have been seated directly on large rocks . Considering
the proposed expense involved in your remodeling plans , it would
seem prudent to assure that there will be no foundation problems in
the future . Accordingly , I recommend that all six exterior wood
columns be underpinned , and earth formed concrete ( minimum 2 ' - 6 "
square ) be installed to a depth of at least V6 " . The ends of the
columns should be saturated with bitumen and encased in the
concrete .
The steel pipe column supporting the center beam in the garage
should have a similar foundation . It will require that the existing
concrete floor slab be cut in order to install the new concrete .
The depth of this foundation should also be a minimum of P - 6 "
since the garage is unheated . No reinforcing steel is necessary .
EXHIBIT # 3
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Mr . and Mrs . Joel Porte
• Barn Remodeling
June 21 , 1989
Page 2 .
The anchoring of these seven columns into the ground will
insure the long term structural performance of this building .
If you have any further questions , or if I can assist you in
any way as the project proceeds , please do not hesitate - to call me .
I appreciate the opportunity to be 'of service in this matter .
Sincerely yours ,
RAYMOND A . DiPAS & ASSOCIATES
aymo d A . DiPasquale ,
tructural Consultant
• cc . Mr . Bruce Bard
EXHIBIT # 3
Cornell University
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Ithaca, New York 14853
July 17 , 1989
Thomas and Lynne Murphy
1319 Hanshaw Road
Ithaca , N . Y . 14850
Dear Mr . and Mrs . Murphy :
My wife and I , who live at 1405 Hanshaw , would like to reno -
vate the second floor of our barn , and in order to do so we
need to apply to the Town of Ithaca Zoning Board for permis -
sion . In such cases , one ' s neighbors need to be informed of
the substance of the petition .
We want to put in a studio apartment , not for rental pur -
poses , but for the following reasons : ( 1 ) to provide guest
accommodations for our parents , who visit us fairly often $
( 2 ) to have quiet space where any wife and I , who are both
scholars , can escape to do our work ; ( 3 ) to enable our daugh -
ter , who is studying the violoncello at Oberlin Conservatory ,
to practice without being disturbed or disturbing others ,
when she is home on vacation .
If you have no objection to our petition , a very brief note
to us stating your view would help when our case goes before
the Zoning Board . O.f course we would be most grateful for
your support .
Yours sincerely ,
Joel Porte
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Cornell University
Real Estate Department 607-255-5341 Mail : Box DH - Real Estate
20 Thornwood Drive , Suite 103 Ithaca, New York 14853-2801
Cornell Business & Technology Park Fax : 607-255-9010
July 25 , 1989
Mr , Joel Porte
1405 Hanshaw Road
Ithaca , NY 14850
Dear Mr , Porte :
Cornell University has no objection to a studio apartment , for the purposes
you have stated, over the garage section of your house .
Good luck with your plans .
Sin rely ,
Thomas
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EXHIBIT # 7
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GARY L . WOOD , P. E .
• P.O. Box 313
Whitney Point, NY 13862 607-692-2271
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17 July 1989 �n
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Zoning Board of Appeals
Town of Ithaca v
126 East Seneca Street
Ithaca , NY
RE : Cannon Pool Project
618 Elmira Road
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Ladies Q, Gentlemen :
1 am requesting your favorable consideration of the attached
aoolication for a temoorary variance from your sprinkler law as it
applies to this structure .
The practical difficulties of this situation are that it would
require a temporary storage tank of 51 , 000 gallons ( or 20 feet in
• diameter by 20 feet in height ) . Furthermore , this tank would have to
be raised to a height such that its base would be 35 feet above the
building in order to provide the requisite 15 psi pressure . And all
of this would be removed in the late fall when the municipal water
becomes available .
The building design includes the sprinkler system and a service
line of sufficient size to serve it . The applicant has aoreed to
connect to the municipal water system when it is available and this
should be about the time that the construction of the building is
complete . Consequently , to continue to deny him a building permit so
that he can even proceed .with the construction constitutes an
unnecessary and unreasonable hardship .
I have not included a *plot plan with this aoolication because 1 )
it is not germane to the specific question of this aoolication and 2 )
it was submitted to last March when you conducted a Site Plan Review .
We do thank you for your consideration .
Respectfully submitted .
ry ood , PE
• Encl : Application for Appeal
Practicing Soils, Foundations, and Construction Materials Engineering
EXHIBIT # 8
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TOWN OF ITHACA ZONING
" BOARD OF APPEALS
1� y� ` /-� T Y ��T �� ' NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARINGS 1
SHE . ITS -1r lltl [Vi U WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 9, 1989
7 :00 P. M.
B direction of the Chairman
of the Zoning Board of Ap
peals NOTICE IS HEREBY t
GIVEN that Public Hearings .f
t �- will be held by the Zoning
^1f =-t �-- � � e K- Board of Appeals of the Town ;
of Ithaca on Wednesday , Au- '
gust 9, 1989, in Town Hall , 126
• t �-�; ar•}CS East Seneca Street, (FIRST 1
v .yrs ....._ . . _.. ._ . . _ . _. . .._ . . __ . ._. - �J! i: a C '.:t _
Floor, REAR Entrance, WEST i
Wide ), Ithaca, N. Y. , COM-. i
MENCING AT 7 :00 P. M. , on j
11fJSif the following matters.
ADJOURNED APPEAL (from .i
June 14, 1989) of Isadore Blu- ,
_ .. _ . — -- -- — - - - . .- . .- . . _ • .. _: . . ..: . men , Appellant, . requesting . ,
al authorization from the Board j
-
cz . T� ;-s�, cw � a:-7atit a gab?icTr' or-�'—' P . . .
o Appeals or the extension ;
of a non conforming structure E
on a legal non-conforming, .�
2
. - . . lot, located at 12 Warren . . ,
Road, Town of Ithaca Tax Par''
__ . _ _ -- . • �� L £ ; `- '�5+ � "t .�` if-Ds�'S�, cel No. 6-66-2-3 Residence,
_.
. . ... _ _ . . : ... . .. , District R- 15. The extension in-
• - _ � i v enlargement
_... _ .. .
R'L. ^ .:1' ��5�" 3= 1L' = rtiC _ .— ___— currently lo-* i
o vest a
t. _ catetdn approximately 5 plus-
_. . _ .. .
/minus eet to the north side . . l
_ yard lot line and is proposed '
. - - to be decreased to 1 foot plus, :
/minus through said enlarge-
ment. Current zoning would
.. ._ .— - - .... . _ .
require a 10 sideyard set
+ ` back for a us arequested un- i
e structure.Authorization
Lrr ? _ tyl . t �. r L- S-, • _. ; Or 5 = _ DC = _ _ CC c • —• • -- • --•- -•-• der Article XII , Section 54, of . l
L . the Zoning Ordinance .
APPEAL of Joel and Helene
j .. _ r1 S iC� $ • , Porte, Appellants requesting
(;,E�, Q. . -�T- • IL l.1 - -' - "' ' ' a variance from Article .IV,
Section 11 , of the Town of.
Ordinance
-' aca Zoningo
O — �._.. . . . ... . ... . .. . . .._._._ . permit he (conversion of the ,
second floor of an .
barn/storage building existing.-
barn/storage a
L' _.. _ . . .. .. _ . _ _ _ _--- - • • Gi ' dwelling unit, located at 1405
Hanshaw Road, Town of Itha
co Tax . Parcel No. 6-7C
12 8, 1
• - Residence District R- 15. Said
•. - property contains an existing
single family residence
whereas-the Town nf_Ithnrn:,__
... .... ..
i Zoning Ordinance ermits ,
^ "' ' ' — — - � one residential building '
IL
only
on a single parcel of land.
-. . -
requestingDxeanv i-
( . APPEAL o
Appellant, var
. . .JEAN .FORD once under Section 9 of the
Town of Ithaca Local Low N7-
- Notary Public, State Of New York 1988, as amended, "Requir- .,
ing Sprinkler Systems To Be In-
No.. 4654410
ll Buildings n The
qualified . in. TcmP�lrs Coynry
Town Of Ithaca , for the tem �
ationol sprinkler
installation n of an ein
t e
GlTtl?1:SS101 eXlreS .ri1�8Y �i the proposed Cannon Pool ?,
a retail
sales facility tonal nbe to ated at ' j
_ Elmira Road, on a recently
- divided portion of Town' f
618
sub
- Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 6-33-3-
2 . 2,
-33-3-
i
, 2 . 2, Light Industrial District
Said Zoning Board of Appeals '
- will at said 'time, 7:00 . m. , ' I
_ - and said place, hear all per- 'i :W .
sons in support of such matters ;
or objections thereto. Persons I
._ P
person .
• ... . _ may appearby age in
person .
Andrew S. Frost
Building In ector/ j
Zoning Enforcement Officer
_.. . :. .. . . . .. . .... - - -_ - - . . . . _ -� Tow
n of Ithaca'.
273- 1747
: August 4, 1989