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• MINUTES OF TOWN OF ITHACA
BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS
AGENDA MEETING
AUGUST 13 , 1986
An agenda meeting of the Town of Ithaca Board of Zoning
Appeals was held on August 13 , 1986 at 7 : 00 p . m . at the Town
Hall , 126 East Seneca Street , Ithaca , New York ,
PRESENT : Chairman Henry Aron , Edward Austen , Joan Reuning ,
Town Attorney John Barney .
ALSO PRESENT : Vincent R . Franciamone , Mr . and Mrs . William
W . Steele , Gary Wood , Susan Beeners , Nancy M . Fuller ,
Chairman Henry Aron opened the meeting at 7 : 00 p . m .
The first agenda item was as follows .
Consideration of the request of William W .
Steele , owner of 119 - 121 Kendall Avenue , Town
of Ithaca , Tax Parcel No . 6 - 54 - 4 - 40 , for an
interpretation of Article III , Section 4 ,
• paragraph 2 , of the Town of Ithaca Zoning
Ordinance ,
Chairman Aron invited Mr . William Steele to speak to the
members of the Board . Mr . Steele explained that he would like to
have an interpretation as to the zoning law and in particular ,
Article III , Section 4 , Paragraph 2 , relating to occupancy .
Chairman Aron reminded Mr . Steele that he had been turned down in
his last appeal as to occupancy and asked exactly what
interpretation he wanted .
Mr . Steele '' said that he was trying to follow the rules set
by the Board to rent to no more than three unrelated persons and
had had no luck whatsoever since February . He had been able to
rent to two students in the bottom half of the house but as far
as having a family in the top half of the house he had tried
since last February and had not been able to rent to a family .
No one wanted to live next door to a factory and no one wanted to
live in a neighborhood where it is total student housing .
Chairman Aron asked if he wanted an interpretation as to why
Mr . Steele could not have more than three unrelated persons and
Mr . Steele responded that that was correct .
Chairman Aron then again reminded Mr . Steele that in
December Mr . Steele was turned down by the Board of Zoning
• Appeals . He advised Mr . Steele that he could ask . for a rehearing
of this appeal . The Board could rehear this appeal but there
were some criteria that had to be followed , One is that Mr .
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• Steele must bring to the Board new facts which were not divulged
or talked about at the last appeal . Secondly , there had to be a
unanimous decision of a positive nature by the members of the
Board to grant a rehearing . If there was one who voted against
the rehearing it would then be denied . He further advised Mr .
Steele that if he wanted to pursue this option he would have to
go to the Zoning Officer first who would assist him .
Chairman Aron summarized by saying that Mr . Steele had two
options - one would be an interpretation or he could attempt to
have a rehearing .
Mr . Steele preferred to try and have it reheard and Chairman
Aron advised him to go to the Building Inspector and give :him all
of the facts , but reminded him that it was up to the unanimous
vote of the Board whether a rehearing should be granted .
The second agenda item was as follows :
Consideration of the request of Vincent
Franciamone , Agent for Grace Cascioli , owner
of 1041 Ridgecrest Road and land backlot of
104 Ridgecrest Road , Town of Ithaca Tax
Parcels No . 6 - 45 - 1 - 3 and 6 - 45 - 1 - 2 . 6 ,
respectively , for an interepretation of
. Article XIII , Section 67 , in context with
Article IV , Section 16 , of the Town of Ithaca
Zoning Ordinance , and , in context with
Section 280 - a of the Town Law .
Chairman Aron then invited Mr . Vincent Franciamone to speak
to the members of the Board .
Mr . Franciamone stated that he would like an interpretation
as to what would reduce a lot size .
Chairman Aron asked if he wanted interpretation of Article
XIII , Section 67 in context with Article IV , Section 16 of the
Town of Ithaca Zoning Ordinance and , in context with Section 280 -
a of the Town Law . Mr . Franciamone responded that this was
correct .
Chairman Aron then read Article XIII , Section 67 , from the
Town of Ithaca Zoning Ordinance as follows :
SECTION 67 . Reduction of Lot Area . Whenever a lot upon
which stands a building is changed in size or shape so that
the area and yard requirements of this ordinance are no
longer complied with , such building shall not thereafter be
used until it is altered , reconstructed or relocated so as
to comply with these requirements . The provisions of this
• Section shall not apply when a portion of a lot is taken for
a public purpose .
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• Mr . Franciamone stated that this passage implied that a
portion of a property could be taken over by the State for public
purpose and this would mean reduction of the lot size .
Attorney Barney asked what the significance of this was and
Mr . Franciamone responded that if you have 100 foot frontage and
the State comes along and takes 40 feet of it that reduces your
property .
Since Mr . Franciamone mentioned the State removing property ,
clarification was asked for as to what constituted public purpose
and it was determined that it was not only the State but the
County or Town as well which could appropriate property for
public use .
Chairman Aron then went on to read Article IV , Section 16 as
follows :
SECTION 16 . Size of Lot . Lot sizes in Residence Districts
R15 shall meet the following depths and widths at the front
yard set - back .
1 . Minimum width of lots shall be 100 feet and the :minimum
depth 150 feet .
• Chairman Aron then inquired of Mr . Franciamone what he would
like interpreted .
Mr . Franciamone responded that he would like an
interpretation on exactly what takes away from a lot other than
appropriation for public use . He wondered if sharing a driveway
took away from the lot and , if so , how .
Chairman Aron stated that if a driveway was installed that
would be taking away 15 feet or so from the lot because generally
speaking the house which stands on the lot might not have enough
sideyard .
Mr . Franciamone said if 15 feet of parcel No . 45 - 1 •- 3 were
used as a driveway , it would not come out of the deed .
Chairman Aron then asked if there were any questions from
any members of the Board to Mr . Franciamone .
At that time there were none and Chairman Aron stated that
he would like to consult with the Town Attorney as to this matter
and that a written interpretation would be sent to Mr .
Franciamone ,
Attorney Barney then interjected that he was unclear as to
what Mr . Franciamone wanted interpreted .
• Mr . Franciamone explained that basically what he was asking
for was interpretation as to what would reduce a lot size . The
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• Zoning Ordinance implies that if a portion of the lot is taken by
public use that ' portion would be removed from your deed .
Attorney Barney said that if you have a lot that otherwise
conforms , an R15 lot , 100 foot by 150 foot , and there is a house
built 50 feet back from the road and the State elects to widen
the road that the house sits on and as a result knocks off 25
feet of your frontage , then under those circumstances , you would
only be 25 feet back from the road . This does not become an
illegal use because it was a valid use when you started and only
became illegal because a public entity made it that way .
Therefore it would remain a valid use . Attorney Barney further
stated that he did not understand how Mr . Franciamone wanted some
sort of interpretation of this fairly narrow exception to his
situation .
Mr . Franciamone responded that sharing a driveway in no way
reduces the frontage of any lot .
Attorney Barney asked if Mr . Franciamone was asking for an
interpretation as to whether a frontage , sideyard , or backyard
setback requirement can include an area that is committed to a
common driveway for other people to use .
Mr . Franciamone stated that he was not asking for that . He
• was asking that if a driveway were shared , would it reduce the
lot size .
Attorney Barney asked for what purpose he was asking .,
Mr . Franciamone then referred to the tax map which showed
there was no way to gain access to the lot behind Lot No „ 45 - 1 - 3
other than by sharing a driveway .
Chairman Aron asked how the land became landlocked . He also
asked when Mr . Franciamone bought the property and if it was
landlocked when he bought it . Mr . Franciamone responded that it
was . Chairman Aron asked Mr . Franciamone if he knew it was
landlocked . Mr . Franciamone responded that he knew it was
landlocked but there was access from 1 0 8 Ridgecrest Road an d
other lots on Ridgecrest Road . Chairman Aron asked if someone
had bought those lots . Mr . Franciamone stated that they had been
sold . He further stated that at the time no approval was needed
for subdivision of one lot but that now the subdivision rules and
regulations have changed and by the changing of the subdivision
rules and regulations this has caused Mr . Franciamone a hardship
in that the land cannot be used unless access is gained through
Lot No . 45 - 1 - 3 , 104 Ridgecrest Road , Chairman Aron again asked
when Mr . Franciamone bought the lots and Mr . Franciamone
responded that it was several years ago . Chairman Aron asked if
he knew exactly' when and Mr . Franciamone responded that lie could
• look it up and let him know .
Chairman Aron stated that he did not understand the
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• hardship . Mr . Franciamone responded that it was a hardship
because of the change in the subdivision rules . Chairman Aron
asked if Mr . Franciamone owned the two lots where he previously
had access to the rest of the lots . Mr . Franciamone responded
that he did . Chairman Aron then asked Mr . Franciamone if he sold
those lots knowing that it would prevent access to the rest of
the acreage . Mr . Franciamone responded that he bought the large
acreage first . Chairman Aron asked if there was any occupation
on the two lots that were sold . Mr . Franciamone responded that
there were buildings on those two lots but he still had access
through 104 . Chairman Aron asked how and Mr . Franciamone
responded that it was by a driveway .
Mr . Franciamone asked Attorney Barney if he understood what
had just been talked about and Attorney Barney responded that he
did but he was still not certain of what interpretation Mr .
Franciamone wanted . Mr . Franciamone responded that the
interpretation he wanted was regarding a driveway where 15 feet
would be used from parcel No . 45 - 1 - 3 to gain access to the lot
behind this lot which driveway was to be shared under the same
ownership .
Attorney Barney asked if Mr . Franciamone wanted to make ,
create , or use , - whatever the term - a 15 foot easement across
45 - 1 - 3 . Mr . Franciamone said that was correct . Attorney Barney
. then asked if Mr . Franciamone wanted to know if by doing so would
the existing building on this lot be in violation of the
ordinance if 15 feet were excluded from the lot . Attorney Barney
asked if it would be in conformance if it were included . Mr .
Franciamone responded that it would be in conformance if it were
included . Attorney Barney asked if this 15 foot right of way
would be for access to all of the property . Mr . Franciamone said
it was not for access to a l l of the property but only to the
proposed lot shown on the sketch he presented marked " Proposed
Lot , 15 , 000 SF MIN . "
Chairman Aron asked if there were a surveyor ' s map of the
two lots . Mr . Franciamone responded that he had a map of the
16 . 74 acres buti he did not have a surveyor ' s map of the two lots
in question but , he could supply one if necessary .
Joan Reuning asked who would own the driveway .
Mr . Franciamone said it would be under the same ownership as
all of the land , namely , his sister , Grace Cascioli ,
Attorney Barney said that ultimately perhaps there might be
separate ownership and Mr . Franciamone stated that he doubted
that could ever happen because of the way the rules and
regulations regarding subdivisons were . Mr . Franciamone went on
to state that if it were separate ownership that would mean that
• this 15 foot access would have to be deeded and therefore would
reduce the frontage of the front lot . If it was deeded over that
would be taking away from the 100 foot frontage but using it
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• under the same ownership in no way would reduce the frontage of
that lot .
Mr . Franciamone then brought up Section 280 - a of the Town
Law - the access provisions - and Attorney Barney read excerpts
from this section .
Chairman Aron at this point felt that the Board should study
the matter more closely and come to a conclusion one way or the
other and notify Mr . Franciamone ,
Mr . Franciamone had a few more comments to make . He
referred to the sketch of the entire 16 . 74 acreage that was
presented to the Planning Board and stated that one of the things
that the Town Planner said that by doing something like this it
would be a misconfiguration of the 16 . 74 acres . He went on to
say that the way it was laid out by Mr . Fabbroni , the Town
Engineer , there , was no way that the subdivision of that one lot
was going to cause any misconfiguration .
Chairman Aron asked if it was laid out or if it was a
recommendation by Mr . Fabbroni of what could be done . Mr .
Franciamone responded that it was a recommendation of what could
be done with the land .
• Chairman Aron asked who owned the adjoining property and Mr .
Franciamone responded that a Mr . Erdman owned it . Chairman Aron
asked why Mr . Franciamone did not buy the land from Mr . Erdman
and then build a road . Mr . Franciamone responded that that would
create a further hardship because of the cost of Mr . Erdman ' s
land . Mr . Franciamone said that it would not be feasible to
purchase that land just for a one lot subdivision now but if it
were 30 lots in question then it might be feasible . Chairman
Aron asked what Mr . Franciamone was going to do with the rest of
the landlocked property . Mr . Franciamone said that they had to
either wait or purchase the Erdman land . Mr . Franciamone
mentioned an " opinion " of the State which he found that said it
was not a right of a Planning Board to rule on a one lot
subdivision . He also stated that it was obvious from the sketch
that no one could go any farther than the one lot with the 15
foot access driveway . Chairman Aron again questioned how Mr .
Franciamone would get to the rest of the land later on . Mr .
Franciamone responded that he only wanted to gain access through
Parcel No . 45 - 11 - 3 to the one lot that they want subdivided .
Chairman Aron again asked Mr . Franciamone how in the future they
were going to be get into that 16 . 74 acres . Mr . Franciamone
responded that ' what he was banking on is that when the Erdman
property was sold and the owner tried for a subdivision plan the
Town or Planning Board would require the owner to provide a 60
foot right of way before any development of the acreage .
Mrs . Reuning then inquired as to the ownership of the
property and whether the ownership of the driveway was always
going to be the same as the ownership of the lot on which the
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• driveway would be .
Mr . Franciamone stated that all of the land would be under
one ownership always .
Attorney Barney then inquired as to why Mr . Franciamone was
asking for a subdivison .
Mr . Franciamone responded that Mrs . Cascioli did not want to
pay water and sewer charges on the whole 16 . 74 acres .
Mrs . Reuning then again mentioned the ownership of the lot
and Mr . Franciamone reiterated that both of the lots are under
the same ownership and always would be .
Attorney Barney advised that once there is a subdivision
there is no control adding that you cannot build two buildings on
the same lot so there has to be a subdivision .
Chairman Aron said that he thought Mr . Franciamone wanted to
build a house on the lot behind 45 - 1 - 3 and wanted access to it .
Mr . Franciamone said that was correct .
Mr . Franciamone stated that there would be no easement in
title , that it was Mrs . Cascioli ' s land and she was going to use
• the driveway .
Chairman Aron wondered what would happen if Mrs . Cascioli
decided to sell the property to someone else and the new owner
would not grant access .
Mr . Franciamone reponded that she would never sell the
property .
Attorney Barney stated that if she sold the property subject
to the rights of someone to get across to the other parcel that
would be a right of way .
Mr . Franciamone repeated that she was not going to sell the
property .
Chairman Aron stated that even if she wanted to build a
house on the far lot it did not seem that the Planning Board
would subdivide without access to it .
Mr . Franciamone said that Grace Cascioli owns all of the
property and has no intention of selling it unless someday she
gets a 60 foot right of way from King Road . He went on to say
that there is very good potential there if she can get that right
of way from King Road because that ultimately opens up that 16 . 74
acres to about 30 lots but you cannot build 30 lots on a 15 foot
• driveway . You would never get any kind of approval .
Chairman Aron asked if Mr . Franciamone intended to live
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• there or rent it out .
Mr . Franciamone responded that at this point he did not
know .
Chairman Aron then mentioned the petition brought by Mrs .
Freund to the Planning Board on June 17 , 1986 opposing this
situation because of the probability of rental units .
Chairman Aron then asked if there was any more discussion or
any more questions . There being none , he stated that the Board
should meet with the Town Attorney to go through all the
materials and see whether or not an interpretation could be made
with a written notice of the interpretation being sent to Mr .
Franciamone .
There being no further discussion , the meeting was adjourned
at 7 : 45 p . m .
Respectfully submitted ,
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Beatrice Lincoln
1 4 Recording Secretary
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