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. TOWN OF ITHACA ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
AUGUST 22 , 1984
The Town of Ithaca Zoning Board of Appeals met in regular session on
Wednesday , August 22 , 1984 , in Town Hall , 126 East Seneca Street , Ithaca ,
New York , at 7 : 00 p . m .
PRESENT : Chairman Henry Aron , Joan G . Reuning , Jack D . Hewett , Lewis D .
Cartee ( Building Inspector ) , Nancy M . Fuller ( Secretary ) .
ALSO PRESENT : Christopher F . Wilkinson , Paul Wilkinson , Maria L .
Wilkinson , Richard P . Hackett , Willis S . Hilker , William
Tucker Dean , Esq . , Bonnie Hollenbeck , Rollin Bauer , Merry Jo
Bauer , Randolph F . Brown , Shirley Brown , Anne Morrissette ,
Chairman Aron declared the meeting duly opened at 7 : 05 p . m . , and
accepted for the record the Clerk ' s Affidavit of Posting and Publication of
the Notice of Public Hearings in Town Hall and the Ithaca Journal on August
14 , 1984 and August 17 , 1984 , respectively , together with the Secretary ' s
Affidavit of Service by Mail of said Notice upon the various neighbors of
each of the properties in question , upon the Tompkins County Commissioner
of Planning , and upon each of the appellants and / or agent , if any , on
August 17 , 1984 .
ADJOURNED APPEAL ( FROM JULY 26 , 1984 ) OF TOMPKINS COMMUNITY DAY CARE
CENTER , INC . , APPELLANT , WILLIAM TUCKER DEAN , ESQ . , AS AGENT , IN RE
PERMISSION TO OPERATE A " FAMILY DAY CARE CENTER " AT 1285 TRUMANSBURG ROAD ,
Chairman Aron declared the Adjourned Public Hearing in the above - noted
matter duly opened at 7 : 07 p . m . and read aloud from the Notice of Public
Hearings as posted and published and as noted above . Attorney Dean and
Mrs . Hollenbeck were present .
Chairman Aron asked if there were anyone present who wished to speak
for or against the matter of the Day Care Center proposed for location on
the Hospital grounds . No one spoke . Chairman Aron closed the Public
Hearing at 7 : 09 p . m .
Chairman Aron stated that Counselor Dean had appeared before the Town
of Ithaca Planning Board on August 7th , adding that he , too , had attended
that meeting as Chairman of the Zoning Board of Appeals and had requested a
report from the Planning Board with respect to the Tompkins Community Day
Care Center proposal . .. Chairman Aron read the Planning Board ' s Report
aloud , as follows :
" REPORT :
T0 : Chairman , Zoning Board of Appeals
FROM : Chairman , Planning Board
DATE : August 9 , 1984
RE : Tompkins Community Hospital Family Daycare Center
Zoning Board of Appeals 2 August 22 , 1984
• On August 7 , 1984 the Planning Board considered a proposal by the Tompkins
Community Hospital to operate a Group Family Day Care Center on the
Hospital grounds . On behalf of the Planning Board , I am pleased to report
that our opinion is that such a facility would be useful for employees of
the Hospital , and the site is suitable .
Issues to be Considered .
1 . The number of children to be cared for will be between 12 - 14 . We
recommend that if the scope , extent or duration of the facility is
planned to be extended , that the applicant return to the Zoning Board
of Appeals for a supplement to this report .
2 . A parking space has been described to the Planning Board suitable to
accommodate the picking up and dropping off of children , as well as
staff requirements . In the event of a facility expansion , the parking
area may also need to be expanded .
3 . A fenced in area of roughly 35 , 000 - 40 , 000 square feet has been
described in the rear of the building . This fence should be completed
prior to the operation of the facility .
4 . Approval should be considered in the form of a Special Permit
reviewable after 2 years , except as provided in # 1 above . "
Chairman Aron asked if anyone on the Board had any questions which he
• or she would like to address to Counselor Dean . There were no questions
forthcoming , it being noted that the Board members had before them copies
of the Planning Board Minutes of August 7th [ as follows ] .
" CONSIDERATION OF A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS WITH
RESPECT TO A SPECIAL PERMIT REQUIRED FOR THE OPERATION OF A DAY CARE CENTER
AT 1285 TRUMANSBURG ROAD . [ TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL N0 .
6 - 24 - 3 - 2 . 1 . 1
The Secretary distributed copies of the following letter and attached
document , from Counselor William Tucker Dean , dated August 2 , 1984 ,
received August 6th , to the Board members .
' August 2 , 1984
Town of Ithaca Planning Board
. • . At the meeting of the Zoning Board of Appeals on Thursday , July 26 , I
appeared on behalf of the Tompkins Community Day Care Center , Inc . , a
not - for -profit corporation I am in the process of forming . My original
request to the Board of Zoning Appeals was for a variance to permit the
Center to operate a ' Family Day Care Center ' for not more than six
youngsters at 1285 Trumansburg Road . The premises for which the variance
was sought is the unnumbered building built as a physician ' s residence for
Biggs Memorial Hospital , which is the fourth building on the right as you
enter the hospital grounds .
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Zoning Board of Appeals 3 August 22 , 1984
After filing this request I learned that the N . Y . S . Deparment of
• Social Services has promulgated a new regulation , ' Guidelines : Group
Family Day Care Demonstration Homes , ' a copy of which is appended . Such
' Group Family Day Care Demonstration Homes ' may have . . . seven to ten
children of all ages . . . including not more than two children under two years
of age ; twelve children may be cared for when all of the children are over
two years of age . . . not more than two additional school - age children may
receive care before and after school time hours . ' ( Enclosure , P . 1 )
At the hearing before the Zoning Board of Appeals I asked leave to
amend my original request to include a variance for the Tompkins Community
Day Care Center , Inc . to operate a ' Group Family Day Care Demonstration
Home . ' It is my hope that the Town Planning Board , to which my request for
a variance was referred , will consider this amended request .
I would like to add that the Tompkins Community Day Care Center , Inc . ,
after its organization has been completed , and a state certificate has been
obtained for a ' Family Day Care Home , ' as authorized in 18 N . Y . C . R . R . 418
for 16 children , a larger number than permitted for a ' Group Family Day
Care Demonstration Home , ' will request a variance for such a home .
. . .
( sgd . ) William Tucker Dean
Counsel , Tompkins Community Day Care Center , Inc . '
[ Attachment - ' Guidelines : Group Family Day Care Demonstration Homes ' ( 6
• pages ) ]
The Secretary also distributed copies of that portion of the Minutes
of the Zoning Board of Appeals Meeting of July 26 , 1984 , having to do with
the proposal by the Tompkins Community Day Care Center , Inc .
Attorney Dean appeared before the Board , accompanied by Mrs . Bonnie
Hollenbeck , one of the initial directors of the day care center . Attorney
Dean appended a copy of a portion of the Site Plan for the Tompkins
Community Hospital , dated July 10 , 1976 , showing outlined in blue the
location of the proposed facility and proposed parking therefor . Attorney
Dean stated that he was Counsel for the Tompkins Community Day Care Center
which is in the process of being organized , its charter now before the
State for the approval required . Attorney Dean stated that he had
determined from the Zoning Ordinance that the zoning in place for this
particular area is R30 and , indicating on the site plan , noted that the
proposed facility is to be located in Apartment # 2 of the two -apartment
building outlined in blue . Attorney Dean commented that there is a plan
for the future involving the other half of that particular building .
Attorney Dean stated that the matter of a family day care center for not
more than six children was brought to Mr . Cartee , the Building Inspector ,
and , because the Zoning Ordinance does not address day care centers , it was
brought before the Zoning Board of Appeals . Attorney Dean stated that , in
the meantime , the State came forward with a new category of day care
falling in between family day care for not more than six and a day care
center certified by the Department of Social Services of 17 and up .
• Attorney Dean noted that that new category is described in the document
appended to his letter . [ " Definition : A group family day care home is a
home wherein seven to ten children of all ages may be cared for , including
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• not more than two children under two years of age ; twelve children may be
cared for when all the children are over two years of age ; in either case ,
not more than two additional school - age children may receive care before
and after school time hours . When a group family day care home provides
care for only school age children , not more than fourteen children may be
cared for . " ] Attorney Dean stated that the applicant is hoping for
discussion based on that kind of home . Attorney Dean stated that the
proposed facility will provide day care for the children of persons who
work in the Hospital and , in addition to those with regular hours , it will
help those who have irregular hours , who have irregularity of shifts , or
who come in for a short shift , and need someplace where their children can
be cared for . Attorney Dean stated that this type of facility was the
subject of Governor Cuomo ' s recent remarks , i . e . , a Group Family Day Care
Demonstration Home , and described the numbers and categories of children
who may be cared for ( as defined above ) . Attorney Dean stated that the
applicant plans to fence the area " here " ( indicating on the site plan ) with
a chain link fence so that the children cannot wander , indicated the plan
to provide access by the parents through a driveway and also indicated a
five - space car garage outlined in blue . Attorney Dean stated that , in the
absence of specific provisions in the Ordinance dealing with this kind of
facility , this proposal seems to be a reasonable use of the :space and meets
very urgent human needs . Attorney Dean stated that Geraldine Fisher will
be the active manager . Speaking of some time in the future , Attorney Dean
stated that it is contemplated that a next step , after certification from
the NYS Department of Social Services , will be that they will operate a day
center which is very elaborately defined and regulated , although they
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are aiming at that in the future , not now , but at that time both apartments
will be utilized which will involve opening up the separating wall .
Attorney Dean stated that that would involve some 17 children or possibly
more depending on the mix of ages . At this point , Attorney Dean asked if
there were any questions , adding that Mrs . Bonnie Hollenbeck was present to
assist .
Mr . Lovi asked if the regulations were less stringent when it comes to
a day center on one floor as opposed to two stories . Mrs . Hollenbeck
stated that there is some difference between a day care home and a family
day care center , adding that they are planning to use one floor with the
space meeting the requirements for 17 children , however , they plan to have
10 children . Mr . Lovi noted that it had been indicated that the applicants
are planning to fence off the back area with chain link fence . Mrs .
Hollenbeck stated that that was correct and Attorney Dean added that there
is a huge yard which extends way up to a treed area , at least 500 feet in
depth and the width would be the width of the building , which is about 75
to 90 feet . Mr . Lovi thought it was about an acre .
Mrs . Grigorov stated that she thought the proposal was a good idea and
Mr . Klein stated that it was a terrific idea . Mr . Lovi stated that he ,
too , thought it was a good idea . Chairman May stated that he thought it
was a good idea too , adding , however , that his concern is always with the
meeting of fire code and State regulations . Chairman May stated that , with
Mr . Cartee in charge of code enforcement , he did not see any problem in
that area . Attorney Dean pointed out that any facility of this nature must
that
the requirements of fire inspection by the State and added that they
will be putting in covered fire stairs . Mrs . Hollenbeck stated that they
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• have a kitchen , adding that a family home day care center is different from
a day care center .
With the concurrence of each of the Board members present , Chairman
May asked Mr . Lovi to prepare a report for his review and subsequent
submission to the Zoning Board of Appeals .
At 9 : 05 p . m . , Attorney Dean thanked the Board and stated that he would
leave the site plan with Mr . Lovi ; Mr . Lovi expressed his thanks . "
Counselor Dean stated that he wished to point out first off that the
proposal is not connected with the Tompkins Community Hospital , the
proposal is on behalf of the Tompkins Community Day Care Center , Inc .
Counselor Dean appended the same site plan to the bulletin board as had
been shown to the Planning Board and indicated thereon the new hospital
area and to the right the connected structures which he noted are called
townhouses but are actually apartments . Counselor Dean stated that the
Appeal before the Board has to do with one half of one apartment which , he
indicated , was outlined in blue . Counselor Dean indicated the garages
available , the parking , and the access , commenting that the width is
sufficient for a turn - around and the cars can pass each other . Chairman
Aron asked the size of that area , to which Counselor Dean responded , 15
feet to 20 feet . Counselor Dean described the fence and the gate ,
indicating on the site plan and commented that the children cannot go out
in front . Chairman Aron stated to Counselor Dean that he did hear his
presentation at the Planning Board meeting and , thus , was aware of what had
• been proposed .
MOTTION by Mrs . Joan Reuning , seconded by Mr . Jack Hewett :
RESOLVED , that the Town of Ithaca Zoning Board of Appeals grant and
hereby does grant a special permit , reviewable after two years , to the
Tompkins Community Day Care Center , Inc . for the operation of a Group
Family Day Care Demonstration Home for up to 14 children , as proposed by
said Tompkins Community Day Care Center , Inc . and presented by Counselor
William Tucker Dean and Ms . Bonnie Hollenbeck , and as described by N . Y . S .
Department of Social Services " Guidelines : Group Family Day Care
Demonstration Homes " , at 1285 Trumansburg Road , Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel
No . 6 - 24 - 3 - 2 . 1 .
There being no further discussion , the. Chair called for a vote .
Aye - Aron , Reuning , Hewett .
Nay - None .
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously .
Chairman Aron stated to Counselor Dean and Ms . Hollenbeck that he
thought the project was a worthwhile thing to do ; both Mrs . Reuning and Mr .
Hewett agreed . Chairman Aron declared the matter of the Appeal of the
Tompkins Community Day Care Center , Inc . duly closed at 7 : 15 p . m .
• Mr . Cartee stated that he would like to have a set of plans for the
building and , specifically , the numbers of children , the numbers of day
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• care center workers , and a copy of the State Guidelines relative to family
day care demonstration homes . Mr . Cartee stated that , in addition , he will
need to make an inspection of the property with respect to the NYS Uniform
Fire Prevention and Building Code , adding that he would appreciate their
making the arrangements for such an inspection . Counselor Dean stated that
that will certainly be done .
APPEAL OF CHRISTOPHER F . AND MARIA L . WILKINSON , APPELLANTS , FROM THE
DECISION OF THE BUILDING INSPECTOR DENYING A BUILDING PERMIT FOR THE
CONSTRUCTION OF AN ADDITION TO AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING AND FOR
THE RECONSTRUCTION OF AN EXISTING DECK WITH A REAR YARD OF LESS THAN THIRTY
FEET AT 114 PINEWOOD PLACE , TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL NO . 6 - 70 - 10 - 1 . 146 .
PERMIT IS DENIED UNDER ARTICLE IV , SECTION 14 , AND ARTICLE XIV , SECTION 75 ,
OF THE TOWN OF ITHACA ZONING ORDINANCE .
Since Mrs . Brown had not yet arrived to speak to the Appeal of the
Coddington Road Community Center Appeal , Chairman Aron declared the Public
Hearing in the above - noted matter duly opened at 7 : 17 p . m . and read aloud
from the Notice of Public Hearings as posted and published and as noted
above . Both Mr . and Mrs . Wilkinson were present . Chairman Aron stated
that he would like to omit reading all of the submissions presented to the
Board in this matter by Mr . and Mrs . Wilkinson because the members of the
Board have received all the submissions and are familiar with them . With
the Board concurring , Chairman Aron complimented Mr . Wilkinson on the
thoroughness and clarity of his submissions . Chairman Aron stated that if
there were anyone present who wished that he read aloud all of the
• submissions [ 12 pages ] , he would do so . It was indicated by those present
that it was not necessary to read from all the submissions . Chairman Aron
stated that anyone who wished to look at the papers was welcome to do so .
Chairman Aron asked if there were anyone present who wished to speak
for or against the Wilkinson Appeal . No one spoke . Chairman Aron declared
the Public Hearing duly closed at 7 : 20 p . m .
Chairman Aron stated that he would read the letters received with
respect to this matter . He read :
1 . " 112 Sycamore Dr .
Ithaca , NY
August 3 , 1984
To Whom It May Concern :
Chris Wilkinson ' s property at 114 Pinewood abuts my property on my
eastern border . This letter is to indicate that I do not object to
the addition of an extension on the western side of his house which
will extend toward my property line to the extent of about two thirds
the length of his present deck . I understand that this construciton
may slightly violate the set - back laws pertaining to this property ,
however , I see no reason to object to this modification of his house .
Sincerely ,
( sgd . ) Harry Mussell "
[ Notarized ]
• 2 . " 116 Pinewood Place
Ithaca , NY 14850
Zoning Board of Appeals 7 August 22 , 1984
• August 6 , 1984
TO : The Zoning Board of the Town of Ithaca
Please be advised that the proposed zoning variance of Christopher and
Maria Wilkinson at # 114 Pinewood Place has been explained to me by Mr .
Wilkinson . The proposed addition to their home poses no problem
whatsoever to my wife and me , as immediate neighbors on the
Wilkinson ' s north side .
( sgd . ) James D . Howe "
3 . " July 27 , 1984
Town of Ithaca
Zoning Board
Dear Sirs ,
Our neighbor , Mr . Christopher Wilkinson , is building a small addition
to the back of his house that will have a deck surrounding it . We
believe that these additions will be attractive and we have no
objections to - their construction .
Sincerely
( sgd . ) Henry H . Hagedorn
( sgd . ) Magdalene Hagedorn
305 Birchwood Drive North "
Referring to the plans and documents before the Board , Chairman Aron
commented that one thing puzzled him , and read as follows from one of the
submissions to the Board dated August 7 , 1984 , from Mr . and Mrs . Wilkinson :
• " . . . 2 . The original Schlieder survey dated January 10 , 1977 is incorrect
with regard to distances indicated between the rear ( west ) side of the
house and the western lot boundary . Distances indicated in PLAN A [ 30 ' and
34 ' 1 have been obtained recently using existing reference markers on the
west lot line . " Chairman Aron asked Mr . Wilkinson if , when Mr . Schlieder
took the survey , he were living in the house . Mr . Wilkinson stated that
they were not living there , adding that that is a 1977 survey and they
moved in in 1979 .
As clarification , Mr . Cartee stated that the building permit -for this
house was issued on July 26 , 1976 , based on a plot plan presented by the
contractor which showed the rear of the house to be 28 feet from the lot
line , a distance 2 feet short- of the required rear yard setback . Mr .
Cartee stated that then about 6 months later , the referenced Schlieder
survey showed the rear lot line as 21 feet , which according to Mr .
Wilkinson , is incorrect . Mr . Cartee stated that , in any event , a variance
should have been sought for the house in the first place based on the plan
submitted by the contractor ; it was not . Chairman Aron thanked Mr . Cartee ,
and noted that the Board has all the plans and drawings and descriptions
before it . Chairman Aron stated that he had no further questions and asked
if there were any questions from the Board . There were none .
MOTION by Mr . Jack Hewett , seconded by Mrs . Joan Reuning :
RESOLVED , that the Town of Ithaca Zoning Board of Appeals grant and
hereby does grant an area variance of 14 feet from the rear yard setback
* requirement of 30 feet as set forth in Article IV , Section 14 , of the Town
of Ithaca Zoning Ordinance , at 114 Pinewood Place , Town of Ithaca Tax
Parcel No . 6 - 70 - 10 - 1 . 146 , to permit the reconstruction , southerly , of an
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• existing deck presently in place and to permit the construction of an
addition 10 feet westerly from the rear of the existing single family
residence located thereon , all as shown on drawing entitled " Plan A " as
submitted with the Appeal of Christopher F . and Maria L . Wilkinson under
date of August 7 , 1984 , it being that said Board of Appeals finds that the
three immediately adjacent neighbors have submitted in writing their
support for the granting of said area variance , and further , that no one
appeared in opposition to said grant , and further , that said grant harms
neither public safety nor welfare .
There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote .
Aye - Aron , Reuning , Hewett .
Nay - None .
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously .
Chairman Aron declared the matter of the Wilkinson Appeal duly closed
at 7 : 30 p . m .
APPEAL OF RICHARD AND SUSAN HACKETT , APPELLANTS , FROM THE DECISION OF THE
BUILDING INSPECTOR DENYING A BUILDING PERMIT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A
TWO - CAR GARAGE WITH A SIDE YARD OF LESS THAN FIFTEEN FEET AT 354 BOSTWICK
ROAD , TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL NO . 6 - 32 - 1 - 22 . PERMIT IS DENIED UNDER
ARTICLE V , SECTION 21 , AND ARTICLE XIV , SECTION 75 , OF THE TOWN OF ITHACA
• ZONING ORDINANCE .
Since Mr . and Mrs . Klein were not yet present , Chairman Aron declared
the Public Hearing in the above -noted matter duly opened at: 7 : 30 p . m . and
read aloud from the Notice of Public Hearings as posted and published and
as noted above . Mr . Hackett was present . Chairman Aron asked Mr . Hackett
if he had anything to add to his Appeal as presented . The referenced
Appeal Form as signed and submitted by both Richard and Susan Hackett under
date of August 9 , 1984 , reads as follows : " . . . Having been denied
permission to erect a two car garage at 354 Bostwick Road . . . The location of
the driveway and the contour of the lot permit construction of a garage
only on the east side of the existing house . Please note attached copy of
Survey with the location of the proposed garage noted on it . "
Mr . Hackett stated that he had statements from the neighbors on both
the east and west sides of his property and that he also had some
photographs of the house , the driveway , and the lot which will show the
only place to build this garage .
Chairman Aron read aloud the following statements :
1 . " August 20 , 1984
To whom it may concern :
I have no objection to the construction of a two - car garage by Richard
and Susan Hackett of 354 Bostwick Rd . , Ithaca , New York even though
such construction may violate zoning laws mandating a 15 foot
• sideyard .
( sgd . ) Earl A . Hayes
( sgd . ) Kathleen B . Hayes "
Zoning Board of Appeals 9 August 22 , 1984
• [ Neighbors to the East ]
2 . " August 20 , 1984
To whom it may concern :
I have no objection to the construction of a two - car garage by Richard
and Susan Hackett of 354 Bostwick Rd , Ithaca , New York even though
such construction may violate zoning laws mandating a 15 foot
sideyard .
( sgd . Frederick J . Rolfe
( sgd . ) Margaret Rolfe
Neighbors to the West "
Mr . Hackett distributed four colored photographs among the Board
members and stated that the house is new construction , commenting that they
moved in just after Easter , and adding that the pictures show the only
logical place to build the garage is to the east . Mr . Hackett referred the
Board to the survey submitted with his Appeal and stated that he did not
have plans at the moment , however , he is working with the architect . Mr .
Hackett stated that there is only one side of the lot that you could build
on because the land slopes a great deal to the west .
Mrs . Reuning asked how far away the Hayes are from the location of the
proposed garage . Mr . Hackett stated that he did not know , adding , however ,
that it is a considerable distance .
Chairman Aron asked if there were anyone present who wished to speak
• to the matter of the Hackett Appeal . No one spoke . Chairman Aron closed
the Public Hearing at 7 : 36 p . m .
Mr . Cartee commented that he would like to fortify Mr . Hackett ' s
position and stated that if he had to go farther north there is a problem
with the well and in the front there is a problem with the septic tank and
sewage system , and in addition , as the pictures show , the lot rises
substantially to the west .
Mrs . Reuning asked if the garage shown on the Survey were drawn to
scale . Mr . Hackett replied that it really was not , adding that the garage
will be for two cars with five or six feet of extra length for storage ,
probably about 22 feet or 24 feet .
MOTION by Mrs . Joan Reuning , seconded by Mr . Jack Hewett :
RESOLVED , that the Town of Ithaca Zoning Board of Appeals grant and
hereby does grant an area variance with respect to the easterly side yard
setback at 354 Bostwick Road , Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No . 6 - 32 - 1 - 22 , to
permit the construction of a two - car garage at the easterly side of the
existing dwelling located thereon , such garage to be located less than 15
feet from said easterly side lot line , said Board of Appeals finding that
practical difficulties exist with the locations of the well and septic
systems upon said property and with a substantial slope existing to the
west of said property , and further , that no objections to the granting of
• said side yard variance have been presented , it being that the two next
door neighbors have evidenced their support in writing .
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• There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote .
Aye - Aron , Reuning , Hewett .
Nay - None .
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously .
Chairman Aron declared the matter of the Hackett Appeal. duly closed at
7 : 40 p . m .
APPEAL OF MARIE L . BROWN , APPELLANT , RANDOLPH F . BROWN , AS AGENT , FROM THE
DECISION OF THE BUILDING INSPECTOR DENYING A BUILDING PERMIT FOR THE
CONSTRUCTION OF A WALK - IN REFRIGERATION UNIT ADJACENT TO A LEGAL
NON - CONFORMING ROADSIDE STAND AT 1408 TRUMANSBURG ROAD , TOWN OF ITHACA TAX
PARCEL NO . 6 - 24 - 1 - 25 . 21 . PERMIT IS DENIED UNDER ARTICLE IV , SECTION 13 ,
ARTICLE XII , SECTION 54 , AND ARTICLE XIV , SECTION 75 , OF THE TOWN OF ITHACA
ZONING ORDINANCE .
Chairman Aron declared the Public Hearing in the above - noted matter
duly opened at 7 : 41 p . m . and read aloud from the Notice of Public Hearings
as posted and published and as noted above . Mr . Randolph Brown was
present . The Appeal Form as signed and submitted by Randolph F . Brown
under date of August 14 , 1984 , reads as follows : " . . . Having been denied .
permission to construct walk in cooler facilities at 1408 Trumansburg
Road . . . Walk in cooler facilities are needed in direct proximity to the
roadside stand in order to preserve and protect our produce . Since the
• existing structure is not large enough to house such facilities we propose
to erect a freestanding walk in cooler behind the stand at 1408 T - Burg Rd .
( Size approx . 40 ' long 15 ' wide 12 ' high . ) This unit will be required to
have a roof erected over it to protect it from the elements . We propose
extensive earth moving and grading behind the stand to accommodate the
proposed structure and a proposed parking plan to be submitted at the
Zoning Meeting . "
Chairman Aron asked if there were anyone present who wished to speak
to the matter of the Brown Appeal . No one spoke . Chairman Aron closed the
Public Hearing at 7 : 42 p . m .
Chairman Aron stated to Mr . Brown that he drives by his property very
frequently , as he knew , adding that there is one thing which bothers him
and that is his parking situation . Chairman Aron stated that he has seen
cars out on Route 96 , adding that it is a very bad situation . Chairman
Aron stated that Mr . Brown has good produce and asked Mr . :Brown if he had
any suggestions with respect to the parking problem .
Mr . Brown stated that he did have some suggestions to alleviate the
parking problem and appended a large drawing to the bulletin. board entitled
" Indian Creek Farm , Walk In Cooler + Parking Plan " . Mr . Brown stated that ,
as the Board probably knows , there is a bank behind the stand which he
proposed to grade back to provide for truck deliveries . Mr . Brown stated
that also he proposed to grade back and make a circular drive so that the
• parking flows behind the stand to alleviate the problem which Chairman Aron
referred to , which is a problem . Mr . Brown stated that his proposal can be
done with little visual impact , adding that the circular drive will not be
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• macadam . Mr . Brown stated that the grade will be up about one foot rather
than four to five feet . Mr . Brown stated that he has been told that the
field behind the stand can accommodate the soil . Utilizing the drawing ,
Mr . Brown illustrated how the traffic would flow in , around , and out the
roadside stand area .
Chairman Aron asked Mr . Brown how he planned to control that flow .
Mr . Brown stated that he was planning a system of informational signs ,
adding that it will be an obvious flow into the back area which one will
see when one drives into the driveway . Chairman Aron wondered if Mr . Brown
could put obstacles in the front where the graveled area is . Mr . Brown
stated that he could increase the barrier that he has created " here "
[ indicating ] to make the proposed flow of parking occur more obviously ,
adding , perhaps , through a small picket fence arrangement . Chairman Aron
asked Mr . Brown if he were going to have signs . Mr . Brown stated that he
would , such as " Parking In The Rear " and " No Parking " " here " or " here "
[ indicating ] . Mr . Brown stated that the way he has it visualized in his
mind , it will be obvious . 1.
Mrs . Reuning commented that many of Mr . Brown ' s customers are return
trade and they will become educated to the flow of the cars . Mr . Brown
also indicated on the drawing an area back into the field which could be
used for cars .
Chairman Aron asked Mr . Brown when he intended to have this plan put
in place . Mr . Brown stated that this all has to occur before the cooler
• can be done , adding that the parking has to be done first . Mr . Brown
stated that he proposed to do this immediately .
Mr . Hewett wondered if one way around would help . Mr . Brown stated
that it really would not and explained certain problems with sight
distances coming from the Trumansburg area .
Mr . Cartee stated that he would like to talk about the cooler , such
as , how large it is , is it attached , and what Mr . Brown wants to do with
the existing structure . Mr . Cartee commented that maybe a paint job would
be in order . Indicating on the drawing on the board , Mr . Brown stated that
the cooler is not attached to the stand , adding that there will be an alley
in between the stand and the cooler . Mr . Brown stated that the cooler size
is approximately 40 ' x 15 ' x 12 ' high . Mr . Brown stated that , immediately ,
he intended to cut a door from the rear of the stand since people will be
coming from the parking area and so they can come in in the rear . Mr .
Brown stated that , as far as dressing up the stand goes , a paint job is no
problem , adding that it really needs more than that , and commenting that
there is not a whole lot to do with it . Mr . Cartee asked Mr . Brown if he
thought he might want to enlarge next year . Mr . Brown stated that it is a
seasonal operation and they really do not want a whole lot of space . Mr .
Brown commented that they are not in a business like , say , Eddydale Farm
Market , Mr . Brown commented that he could not say that some time in the
distant future he might enlarge , but right now he did - not see a need for
it , adding that a lot of his business is " U -Pick " . Mr . Brown stated that
• he would like to discuss a roof over the cooler which would be a pole - type
structure with the poles in the ground and a roof .
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Chairman Aron asked why Mr . Brown needed a cooler since he has been
operating for a long time without it . Mr . Brown stated that they really
need it for their vegetables , adding that he has another farm in Newfield
and is also associated with Littletree Orchards . Mr . Brown stated that
they have been producing a lot more than they ever have before and a lot
more kinds of produce and they need more cooled space to store their
produce in . Mr . Brown stated that the cooler is not associated with
display , adding that their customers are not going to come in there .
Mrs . Reuning wondered how much higher the cooler will be than the
stand , to which Mr . Brown replied , about four feet higher- at the rear .
Mrs . Reuning wondered if it could be seen from the road , to which Mr . Brown
replied , yes , from the Trumansburg direction but not from the Ithaca
direction . Mr . Brown stated that he has not had drawings done yet , so he
did not know about the roof line for snow load , adding , however , that he
did not want to dwarf the stand .
Chairman Aron asked if there were any further questions . No one
spoke . Mr . Brown stated that he had spoken to the neighbors who live next
door and they had no objections . Mr . Brown stated that , as for the
neighbors across the street , he did not know about their feelings because
they were not there , however , he did know that the people there are not the
owners , the house is a rental house . Mr . Brown stated that he had not been
able to contact his immediate neighbors , John and Celia Bowers . It was
noted that eight neighbors were notified by mail and no one appeared .
Mr . Cartee asked Mr . Brown to tell the Board about the trees down near
the road on the Trumansburg side of the stand but some 300 yards distant
from the stand Mr . Brown described the trees and talked about removing
some trees and underbrush because it is blind for people coming down the
road from Trumansburg to see the stand enough of a distance away to
properly prepare for entering the stand area . Mr . Brown commented that he
would like to remove some of these trees , which are on his farm , and cut
back some of the underbrush and even have an informational sign which there
used to be , adding that the old pole is still there . Mr . Cartee indicated
that the matter of a second sign for the stand is not that which is before
the Board at this hearing . Chairman Aron commented that the proposal
sounded good to him .
MOTION by Mrs . Joan Reuning , seconded by Mr . Jack Hewett :
RESOLVED , pursuant to Article XII , Section 54 , that the Town of Ithaca
Zoning Board of Appeals grant and hereby does grant authorization for the
extension of the legal non - conforming roadside stand , known as Indian Creek
Farm Stand , presently owned by Marie L . Brown and operated by Randolph F .
Brown , and located at 1408 Trumansburg Road , Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No .
6 - 24 - 1 - 25 . 21 , such extension being the construction of a walk - in
refrigeration unit , separated from the existing roadside stand , including a
roof , with pole construction , of approximately 40 feet by 15 feet , for the
protection of and shade for said walk - in refrigeration unit , and further
RESOLVED , that said grant of authorization to extend said
non - conforming use be and hereby is conditioned upon :
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• 1 . The development , as soon as possible , of adequate parking , as proposed
by the Appellant through her Agent , Randolph F . Brown , and as
indicated on the drawing presented to and reviewed by said Board of
Appeals this date , August 22 , 1984 ;
2 . No parking shall be permitted in front of the existing roadside stand;
3 . Additional traffic flow and parking signage is permitted to be placed
in the area of the roadside stand as proposed and described by Mr .
Randolph Brown ,
and further
IT IS DETERMINED , by said Board of Appeals , that the health , safety ,
morals and general welfare of the community in harmony with the general
purpose of the Town of Ithaca Zoning Ordinance is promoted , that the
premises are reasonably adapted to the proposed use , and that such use
fills a community need , that the proposed use and structure are consistent
with the character of the district in which it is located , that the
proposed use is not detrimental to the general amenity or neighborhood
character in amounts sufficient to devaluate neighboring property or
seriously inconvenience neighboring inhabitants ; that the access and
egress , and signage therefor , as proposed and as imposed by said Board of
Appeals as a condition , is safely designed ; and , that the general effect of
the proposed use upon the community as a whole is not detrimental to the
• health , safety and general welfare of the community .
There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote .
Aye - Aron , Reuning , Hewett .
Nay - None .
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously .
Chairman Aron declared the matter of the Brown / Brown Appeal duly
closed at 8 : 05 p . m .
APPEAL OF CODDINGTON ROAD COMMUNITY CENTER , APPELLANT , K . SHIRLEY BROWN , AS
AGENT , FROM THE DECISION OF THE BUILDING INSPECTOR DENYING PERMISSION TO
OPERATE A DAY CARE CENTER AT 920 CODDINGTON ROAD , TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL
NO . 6 - 47 - 1 - 11 . 3 . PERMISSION IS DENIED UNDER ARTICLE V , SECTION 18 , OF THE
TOWN OF ITHACA ZONING ORDINANCE .
Chairman Aron declared the Public Hearing in the above - noted matter
duly opened at 8 : 06 p . m . and read aloud from the Notice of Public Hearings
as posted and published and as noted above . Both Mrs . K . Shirley Brown and
Mrs . Anne Morrissette were present . It was noted that each of the Board
members had before him/ her a copy of the Appeal Form as signed and
submitted by K . Shirley Brown under date of August 9 , 1964 , reading as
follows : " . . . Having been denied permission to operate a Day Care Center at
Coddington Road Community Center . . . Article V , Section 18 , Paragraph
• 4 . 6 . Having appeared before the Planning Board August 7 , 1984 , I
respectfully ask approval to operate a Day Care Center . The Planning Board
has reviewed my proposal and prepared a report which is attached to this
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• Appeal . It will be extremely difficult and impractical to attempt to
operate a Day Care Facility in a private home in the Coddington Road area .
The Community Center is a perfect spot , since it used to be an elementary
school . "
Chairman Aron asked if there were anyone present who wished to speak
for or against the matter before the Board .
Mrs . Merry Jo Bauer , 921 Coddington Road , spoke from the floor and
stated that she did not know whether she was for or against , however , she
did have some concerns , the first of which was that " Article V " did not
mean anything to her . Chairman Aron asked Mr . Cartee to read the cited
section of the Ordinance . Mr . Cartee read as follows from Article V ,
Section 18 , paragraph 4 : " Public library or public museum , public ,
parochial and private schools , nursery school , and any institution of
higher learning including dormitory accommodations by approval of the Board
of Appeals . The application for such approval shall be referred to the
Planning Board and no final action shall be taken until the Planning Board
has submitted its report or has failed to submit a report within 30 days . "
Mr . Cartee stated that these kinds of facilities are only allowed by
approval of the Zoning Board of Appeals .
Mrs . Bauer commented that , therefore , it is procedural : Mrs . Bauer
stated that she had another concern - - traffic , adding that Coddington Road
in the area of the Center is a 55 mph zone . Mrs . Bauer noted the circular
driveway at the Center and stated that the foliage should be cut down which
• was not really good because she did not like to cut down trees and bushes .
Mrs . Bauer stated that she had concerns about adequacy as to heat , adding
that she had heard about septic problems . Mrs . Bauer stated that she would
also like to know how many children would be involved .
Mr . Cartee stated that the Tompkins County Health Department is the
responsible agency with respect to water supply , sewage disposal , and any
food should it come under their threshold of jurisdiction . Mr . Cartee
stated that the New York State Uniform Fire Prevention. and Building
Construction Code has certain requirements with respect to , for example ,
the furnace , sewage , water supply , which have to meet New York State
standards for this type of operation . Mr . Cartee stated that the day care
center , if approved , would have to meet all of those criteria . Mrs . Bauer
asked if there were any exceptions . Mr . Cartee responded that there were
no exceptions , adding that the Town does not make exceptions and there are
other agencies involved besides the Town of Ithaca .
Mr . Rollin Bauer , 921 Coddington Road , spoke from the floor and stated
that he wondered about the legality of using a public building for private
gain . Mrs . Morrissette stated that the Day Care Center will be
not - for - profit , adding that the Center will still be under the aegis of the
Coddington Road Community Center Board of Directors . Mrs . Morrissette
stated , however , that she and Mrs . Brown will be paid a salary . Mr . Bauer
stated that , nonetheless , the day care center will be for private gain .
Mr . Bauer stated that he has lived at 921 Coddington Road since 1973 and he
Ohas enjoyed a peaceful area . Mr . Bauer stated that he will lose it and
that he resented that . Mr . Bauer stated that he urged the Board not to
approve this operation , adding that he had neighbors who feel the same way .
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Chairman Aron asked Mr . Bauer if his neighbors were present , with Mr .
• Bauer responding , no . Chairman Aron asked Mr . Bauer if he was speaking for
his neighbors , adding that they were notified . Mr . Bauer stated that his
neighbors are not here in Town , they are away . Chairman Aron asked Mr .
Bauer if he had children , to which Mr . Bauer replied that he had four
children . Chairman Aron asked how old Mr . Bauer ' s children were . Mr .
Bauer stated that his children were 25 , 24 , 22 , and 20 . Chairman Aron
noted that the Bauers ' children were not at home .
Mr . Willis Hilker , 277 Burns Road , spoke from the floor and stated
that he is Chairman of the Board of Directors of the Community Center . Mr .
Hilker described the manner in which the Day Care Center will be using the
Center , pointing out that it will be on a lease basis . Mr . Hilker stated
that the Day Care Center will be using the facility during the off - hours of
the Community Center . Mr . Hilker stated that the Board felt strongly that
this project was a way of rejuvenating the Center which has fallen into
apathy over the past years , and that under this plan they feel it will be
rejuvenated . Mr . Hilker stated that the Coddington Road Community Center
was incorporated in 1948 . Mr . Hilker stated that it has fallen into the
doldrums , probably because the old guard got tired of working on it ,
however , times change and new people come in .
Chairman Aron asked Mrs . Morrissette to tell the Board about the plan .
Mrs . Morrissette stated that they are pursuing, a State license , adding that
they will come under incredible regulations from the State which are very
stringent . Mrs . Morrissette stated that she wanted to let Mrs . Brown also
explain what they will have , however , referring to herself , she is a day
Ocare
provider and lives at 1058 Coddington Road , Mrs . Morrissette stated
that she has talked to Referral Aid for South Hill and Danby and has been
told that they are swamped with calls and no one to refer the callers to .
Mrs . Morrissette stated that it is very difficult to obtain a license to be
a small day care center , adding , parenthetically , that they have been
consulting with another director of a day care center on West Hill who
explained that most of the regulations were set up when day care was on a
very large scale . Mrs . Morrissette stated that it is hard for groups like
them to get started , but that is where the need is because mothers are
looking for a program where the atmosphere is small and there are not a
large number of children running around . Mrs . Morrissette stated that
their supervisory ratio would be 1 to 6 .
Mrs . Shirley Brown stated that she also lives in the neighborhood at
1028 Coddington Road . Mrs . Brown stated that she has an eight -month old
son and had a very difficult time finding a place for him while she was at
work and , then , she found Anne Morrissette . Mrs . Brown stated that she and
Mrs . Morrissette will be working together , adding that the CRCC day care
center will be fully fenced with a fully - equipped playground and the fence
will be 6 ' to 7 ' high . Mrs . Brown stated that they have been working very
hard renovating the inside , adding that there are now two brand new
bathrooms .
Mrs . Morrissette stated that the building will be much safer with the
• day care center there than it is now , commenting that kids have been going
into it over the past years and adding that the way it is set up now ,
anyone could walk into the furnace room . Mrs . Morrissette stated that they
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• have done a lot of repairs and they have worked very hard themselves . Mrs .
Morrissette . stated that a new electrical service was put in today and will
be inspected , adding that everything is to be up to Code . Mars . Morrissette
stated that they are meeting all Codes and are working with the Health
Department . Mrs . Morrissette stated that she believed they had solved the
water quantity problem , adding that the sewage system was pumped two years
ago and a soils test was done recently . Mrs . Morrissette stated that the
back hoes were in last week and there is a plan in place for a new sewer
system if the one there should fail .
Mr . Hewett asked how many children would be involved with the day care
center . Mrs . Brown stated that , full time , there would be 20 to 25 , adding
that the facility will take up to the full 35 allowed by the State . Mrs .
Brown stated that if they have the 35 , 10 will be in the after - school
program which will be mostly for those with kids in the program . Mrs .
Brown stated that they would hire students in Child Development from either
Ithaca College or Cornell to assist in that aspect . Mrs . Brown stated that
the hours are to be 7 : 30 a . m . to 5 : 30 p . m . , there would be a full - time
lease with the Coddington Road Community Center , but after the hours and on
weekends the community can use the facility and kids can play , the gate
being left unlocked . Mrs . Brown stated that there is insurance , adding
that the Center itself will carry liability insurance . Mrs . Brown
commented that the Center used to be used for a lot of activities such as
weddings , fairs , picnics .
Mrs . Reuning wondered how many children there would be at this time .
• Mrs . Brown stated that the maximum would be 35 and they will start out with
10 to 12 . Chairman Aron asked if the ladies already had commitments from
parents . Mrs . Morrissette stated that they have commitments , adding that
they have had six telephone calls at this point .
Chairman Aron read aloud the following Report , dated August 9 , 1984 ,
from the Planning Board Chairman to the Chairman of the Zoning Board of
Appeals :
" On Tuesday , August 7 , 1984 , the Planning Board considered a proposal by
Mrs . Shirley Brown to operate a daycare facility on the site of the
existing Coddington Road Community Center . On behalf of the Planning
Board , I am pleased to report that our unanimous opinion is that such a use
is much needed in our Town , and this site is particularly well - suited for
the proposed use .
There are several issues discussed by the Planning board which should be
considered by the Zoning Board of Appeals in the granting of any approval
for this facility :
1 . Town Maintenance : It is our understanding that , in the past , the Town
has intermittently provided limited exterior maintenance ( highway and
parks ) for the Community Center . To the extent that the daycare
center will be responsible for the renovation and upkeep of the
facility ' s grounds , this assistance should be reconsidered .
• 2 . Parking : There is presently adequate parking for staff and parents .
In the event that the facility expands beyond its projected initial
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• size of 10 - 12 children , or significantly alters the scope , extent , or
duration of services offered , the Planning Board recommends that the
ZBA consider appropriate modifications to its initial approval .
3 . Visibility of entrance road : The easterly entrance of the parking lot
has poor visibility for cars both entering and exiting the facility .
We recommend that the brush around this entrance be trimmed back to
improve visibility and that a ' school zone ' sign be requested and
installed on Coddington Road in both directions within 200 feet of the
property .
4 . Duration : We recommend that ZBA approval of the facility be in the
form of a Special Permit , reviewable after 2 years . At that time , the
facility ' s scope and extent might be subject to additional ZBA
review . "
Mrs . Morrissette stated that they probably did not communicate very
well to the Planning Board . Mrs . Morrissette stated that they are seeking
approval from the Board of Appeals for the 35 children so that they can
apply under one application to the State . Mrs . Morrissette stated that
that is one part , the other part is that with the two of them working
together , they will start out with 10 to 12 children .
[ Following is an Excerpt from the Minutes of the Planning Board
Meeting of August 7 , 1984 :
" CONSIDERATION OF A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS WITH
RESPECT TO A SPECIAL PERMIT REQUIRED FOR THE OPERATION OF A DAY CARE CENTER
ON CODDINGTON ROAD , ON THE SI 'Z'E OF THE FORMER CODDINGTON ROAD COMMUNITY
CENTER . [ 900 BLOCK OF CODDINGTON ROAD , TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL N0 ,
6 - 47 - 1 - 11 . 3 . 1
Mrs . Shirley Brown and Mrs . Anne Morrissette appeared before the Board
with Mrs . Brown acting as spokesperson .
Mrs . Brown stated that the Coddington Road Community Center has not
been used for some time and it is their proposal to utilize -the facility as
a day care center for which there is a pressing need . Mrs . Brown stated
that they have had all kinds of inspectors out there and they have started
renovations to some extent , adding that Mr . Cartee has been very helpful
and has told them what to do . Mrs . Brown stated that they would be leasing
the facility from the Coddington Road Community Center which has a new
Board as of last week , commenting that the Board hopes that their doing the
day care center will revive the Community Center ,
Mrs . Grigorov inquired how long it has been since the Center has been
used , to which Mrs . Brown replied , about two years . Mrs . Morrissette
stated that they have not had any objection from the neighbors although a
Mr . Bauer [ 921 Coddington Road ] has been somewhat negative , adding that she
felt it was not the day care center that bothered him but probably from the
past it is connected with the baseball field area and some loud parties .
•
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Mrs . Brown stated that the hours would be from 7 : 30 a . m. . to 5 : 30 p . m .
* Chairman May commented that the Community Center would still be available
to the community in the evenings .
Mrs . Grigorov asked how many children would be involved . Mrs . Brown
stated that under the State regulations they have room enough for 35
children , however , they will probably have 20 - 25 as a maximum , adding that
they may also have after - school activities , and commenting that the State
regulations get into a lot of technicalities . Mrs . Brown stated that , at
the onset with just the two of them , they plan to have about 10 - 12
children , adding that if later on there is an after - school program they
will need someone to assist them , such as someone from Ithaca College or
Cornell University . Mrs . Brown stated that , in any event , they plan to
start out slowly with about 10 children .
Mr . Mazza asked how well the Center is equipped insofar as parking is
concerned . Mr . Lovi stated that there is a parking lot although the bushes
need to be trimmed , and commented that the facility is in surprisingly good
shape . Mr . Lovi described a circular driveway area next to the building
and stated that there is considerable off - street parking space available .
Mr . Lovi noted that the Center has been under the auspices of the Town .
Chairman May stated that he thought it was a great idea and a great
use for the facility . Mrs . Grigorov expressed her agreement also , as did
Mr . Klein . Mr . Mazza stated that he could offer a motion of recommendation
and asked Mr . Aron , Zoning Board of Appeals Chairman , if that would be
• satisfactory for the Board . Chairman Aron stated that the Board of Appeals
wants a report .
Chairman May directed Mr . Lovi to prepare a report for his review and
subsequent submission to the Zoning Board of Appeals for their meeting of
August 22 , 1984 . " ]
Chairman Aron asked if the ladies would tell the Board about the
parking situation . Mrs . Morrissette described the existing circular
driveway and the space for parking with room for about 20 cars .
Mr . Cartee pointed out that the Planning Board had talked about 10 to
12 children , and asked why Mrs . Brown and Mrs . Morrissette would not look
at the end of the first year with 10 to 12 children and then reapply for
more if necessary . Mrs . Morrissette stated that it cannot be done that way
with the State regulations . Mrs . Morrissette added that , in any event ,
they have made a large personal investment , adding , in addition to all
that , they will have a salary and pay the lease . Mrs . Morrissette stated
that in order for them to meet the lease they have to have a certain ratio
of children , noting that they have to pay for everything , for example , snow
plowing will not be done as they were led to believe ; they will have to
hire a private snow plower . Mrs . Morrissette stated that she supposed they
could limit the number for a certain amount of time because she did not
make it clear , but , she would like to have at least 18 to make it work .
Mrs . Morrissette stated that she and Mrs . Brown are Co -Directors , adding
• that they would like to hire a person with education in early childhood
education . Mrs . Morrissette stated that she has run a cooperative center
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• and she has hired teachers before , adding that if they had 18 children they
could have a third staff person .
Mr . Cartee asked when the ladies planned to start operating , pointing
out that if this hearing is adjourned and , even if approved , it means they
could not start until after September 20th because the next scheduled
meeting of the Board of Appeals is September 20th , Both Mrs . Morrissette
and Mrs . Brown expressed their dismay at the September 20th date . Mrs .
Morrissette stated that they had hoped to start September 10th at the
latest .
Discussion followed with respect to having a special meeting of the
Board of Appeals , since the Board members expressed their desire to visit
the site .
Mrs . Brown stated that she would like to mention in regard to parking
that the parents would not be coming all at the same time ; they will be
coming at different times , but they will open at 7 : 30 a . m . Chairman Aron
commented that the Board has to play safe and protect the neighbors ,
protect the children and protect the applicants as well . Mrs . Morrissette
stated that the majority of parents will be coming between 5 : 00 and 5 : 30
p . m .
Mr . Hewett stated that he thought everyone should look at this site ,
adding that he was familiar with it and that it is a very large piece of
property . Chairman Aron agreed , stating that he thought the hearing should
• be adjourned in order for the Board to visit the Community Center site , and
adding that he did not think it was necessary to wait until September 20th
to continue the hearing . Further discussion followed , the result being
that the Board members would meet at Town Hall on Wednesday , August 29th ,
at 4 : 30 p . m . and from there go up to the site . The Secretary was asked to
notify Messrs . King and Austen .
MOTION by Mr . Jack Hewett , seconded by Mrs . Joan Reuning :
RESOLVED , that the Public Hearing in the matter of the Appeal of the
Coddington Road Community Center be and hereby is adjourned until Thursday ,
August 30 , 1984 , at 7 : 00 p . m . , at Town Hall .
There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote .
Aye - Aron , Reuning , Hewett .
Nay - None .
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously .
[ Secretary ' s Note : Due to subsequent conflicts , it was agreed by all
concerned that the adjournment date and time of the Board of Appeals
meeting be changed to August 29 , 1984 ; the Board would meet at the site of
the Coddington Road Community Center at 4 : 00 p . m . on August 29 , 1984 , and
then reconvene the Hearing at Town Hall on the same day , August 29 , 1984 ,
at 5 : 00 p . m . All interested parties were notified immediately of this
change by the Secretary including Board members King and Austen , Mr . and
Mrs . Bauer , Mr . Willis Hilker , Mrs . Brown , and Mrs . Morrissette . ]
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• APPEAL OF JOHN AND KIM KLEIN , APPELLANTS , FROM THE DECISION OF THE BUILDING
INSPECTOR DENYING A BUILDING PERMIT TO ERECT A FENCE GREATER THAN SIX FEET
IN HEIGHT AT 1103 DANBY ROAD , TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL NO . 6 - 43 - 2 - 1 .
PERMIT IS DENIED UNDER ARTICLE XIII , SECTION 65 , AND ARTICLE XIV , SECTION
75 , OF THE TOWN OF ITHACA ZONING ORDINANCE .
It appearing that , for some reason , Mr . and Mrs . Klein were unable to
attend this meeting , the Board discussed adjourning the Hearing until the
next regular meeting .
MOTION by Mrs . Joan Reuning , seconded by Mr . Jack Hewett :
RESOLVED , that the Public Hearing in the matter of the Appeal of John
and Kim Klein be and hereby is adjourned until Thursday , September 20 ,
1984 , the meeting commencing at 7 : 00 p . m .
There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote .
Aye - Aron , Reuning , Hewett .
Nay - None .
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously .
ADJOURNMENT
Upon Motion , Chairman Aron declared the August 22 , 1984 meeting of the
Town of Ithaca Zoning Board of Appeals duly adjourned at 9 : 00 p . m .
Respectfully submitted ,
Nancy M . Fuller , Secretary ,
Town of Ithaca Zoning Board of Appeals .
Henry Aro Chairman .
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